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carleyjones Blood and Silver	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:08:00 - [61] Originally by: Shylan Enjoy empire, tho i guess the empyrian age update will have come just in time so you can practice pvp in empire :=) lol You know your bad at pvp when even Ka-Tet starts smacking you!!
Graman W33D Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:16:00 - [62] Originally by: Rikeka I have no idea how this escalated (I know why IRC got involved in the war, not sure on the rest) but lately people been telling that all our side did was blob... which is not true at all! So... when it was SMASHKILL, ATLAS, V, FIX, FANG, HYDRA against ED and IRC... it's called "fair fight", but when we bring our own allies its called blob and suddenly people don't like it? Someone please check the "Corporation" tab in-game and check how many members each side could pull at the beggining of the conflict, and then claim it this was fair or not... BTW, no one likes to kick nearby reds in the Drone Regions. Close-by reds is one of the appeals of it... Ask anyone here. as i remember you'r allies are ed xxdeath sf not goons tcf unl and i can't remember any hydra guy in our fleet's at least give the right facts pls that's all
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:54:00 - [63] Originally by: carleyjones Originally by: Razin Originally by: Bobby Atlas There is always a larger picture - further no matter how new FIX space turns out it was a frenzy of kills - that space claiming 3 mothership kills, 27 dreads, 8 carriers, 31 control towers (11 faction large) and thousands of support ships. No matter how anyone trys to spin things, the enemy has paid for that space pound for pound in blood. The spin doctor is in. I guess spin must work differently to everyone else in xDeathx land... Someone saying something like, we are rolling x alliance coz we ganked one bs - x alliance are failing hard, is spin. Someone saying, we might have lost that system but the enemy paid a heavy price for it, isnt. Especailly since the enemy losses mentioned are for all to see on public killboards... BobbyÆs spin is the same every time: slightly inflate the numbers on one side, slightly deflate on the other, æforgetÆ to mention some key info, employ some literary device to confuse the issue further (in this instance: ôspaceö that clamed the kills from one side but somehow didnÆt from the other, so their numbers donÆt show up). Then say something at the end that sounds objective and somewhat sympathetic to get some emotional response to cover up the fudge. A formula tried and true. ...
Rikeka Eye of God Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:56:00 - [64] Originally by: jerrard iceni How many times has a smaller FVKAS fleet willingly jumped into the carrier gate camp in D-IZ? or willingly engaged a larger IRC/ED force? Fairly often tbh. Never. You guys are SMASHKILL (unless FVKAS refers to a new alliance that is not comprised of SMASHKILL, V, ATLAS and FANG, lol) But I'm not being fair... Hmm... The only ones that ever jumped to us while being outnumbered (and brought nice BS fleets) were ATLAS, and that's it (taking aside all nano-crap fights I've seen from all sides) But, of course, jumping a nanogang anywhere does not require balls... A good understanding of brackets and how lag works suffice.
Rikeka Eye of God Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.27 20:57:00 - [65] Originally by: Graman Originally by: Rikeka I have no idea how this escalated (I know why IRC got involved in the war, not sure on the rest) but lately people been telling that all our side did was blob... which is not true at all! So... when it was SMASHKILL, ATLAS, V, FIX, FANG, HYDRA against ED and IRC... it's called "fair fight", but when we bring our own allies its called blob and suddenly people don't like it? Someone please check the "Corporation" tab in-game and check how many members each side could pull at the beggining of the conflict, and then claim it this was fair or not... BTW, no one likes to kick nearby reds in the Drone Regions. Close-by reds is one of the appeals of it... Ask anyone here. as i remember you'r allies are ed xxdeath sf not goons tcf unl and i can't remember any hydra guy in our fleet's at least give the right facts pls that's all Yeah, sorry on that one. My bad. I may have mistook them with someone else.
Rikeka Eye of God Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:05:00 - [66] Originally by: n00b alt3 Originally by: Rikeka STUFF Quote: i thin we are neutral to hydra Aye, my bad. But see? Even THE INTERNET is neutral to Hydra after Bacon. (j/k)
Fizzarus Rakalk Malkalen Callers	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:41:00 - [67] C/D Goons have to go defend the south now that DFC/Shinra beat Black-Out I give it 1 week before SMASHKILLandFIX retake oasa...
Vasili Z Pyre of Gods	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:51:00 - [68] Originally by: Fizzarus Rakalk C/D Goons have to go defend the south now that DFC/Shinra beat Black-Out I give it 1 week before SMASHKILLandFIX retake oasa... Never fought russians before? ------- Everything I say represents my corporation and their views. Clouse Cloud alt
Fizzarus Rakalk Malkalen Callers	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:54:00 - [69] Originally by: Vasili Z Originally by: Fizzarus Rakalk C/D Goons have to go defend the south now that DFC/Shinra beat Black-Out I give it 1 week before SMASHKILLandFIX retake oasa... Never fought russians before? If I recall, they lost 3 mothersips last time and didnt take the station...
fugazii Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2008.05.27 21:59:00 - [70] Originally by: Razin Originally by: fugazii Originally by: Razin War is about objectives. The most tangible objective result in EVE is real estate ownership. The least is a CAOD victory. Are these concepts hard for you to fathom? Whats to say your idea of victory is his as well? There is no absolute in this subject, and unless you sat down with your enemy prior to the war and drew out the guidelines of victory then your view, is just that...a view and not the definition. Looks like fantasy to me. I donÆt know of any wars in recent history where the parties sat down prior to fighting and had drawn up victory conditions. In EVE (as in RL) everyone is free to decide for themselves; however, some victories are pretty obvious (like taking a system with an outpost), while others are questionable (like killing an afk supercap). "Looks like fantasy to me. I donÆt know of any wars in recent history where the parties sat down prior to fighting and had drawn up victory conditions. In EVE (as in RL) everyone is free to decide for themselves;" This is exactly the point I'm trying to make. Saying your view of victory is absolute, but at best it accounts for 50% of the view. All I'm saying is your view on how a war is won isn't any more wrong than his, they're both valid points. If your end game is sovereignty then congrats, and if your end game is killing more than you lose then congrats to them. Its all perspective. My personal view isn't either of those, but a combination. Efficiency and sovereignty is a war won, and to me one without the other is a loss. "There is nothing they can do to counter 5000 f*****g Goons logged in and ready to go." - darius JOHNSON
Sani Ka THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.05.27 22:23:00 - [71] Originally by: Bobby Atlas There is always a larger picture - further no matter how new FIX space turns out it was a frenzy of kills - that space claiming 3 mothership kills, 27 dreads, 8 carriers, 31 control towers (11 faction large) and thousands of support ships. No matter how anyone trys to spin things, the enemy has paid for that space pound for pound in blood. at the end of the day its who controls it that matters
Caldari Citizen51235	Posted - 2008.05.27 22:27:00 - [72] Edited by: Caldari Citizen51235 on 27/05/2008 22:29:22 Originally by: Fizzarus Rakalk C/D Goons have to go defend the south now that DFC/Shinra beat Black-Out I give it 1 week before SMASHKILLandFIX retake oasa... IRC = dead --- Ka-tet who are they? ED = maybe if you rub my feet I will let you have XXdeath space. signed RDT
Sani Ka THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.05.27 22:33:00 - [73] Originally by: Caldari Citizen51235 Edited by: Caldari Citizen51235 on 27/05/2008 22:29:22 Originally by: Fizzarus Rakalk C/D Goons have to go defend the south now that DFC/Shinra beat Black-Out I give it 1 week before SMASHKILLandFIX retake oasa... IRC = dead --- Ka-tet who are they? ED = maybe if you rub my feet I will let you have XXdeath space. signed RDT ohh noes plz halp us evac our stuffs. pls have much faction to get out.
jerrard iceni DEATHFUNK R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.27 23:19:00 - [74] Originally by: Rikeka Never. You guys are SMASHKILL (unless FVKAS refers to a new alliance that is not comprised of SMASHKILL, V, ATLAS and FANG, lol) Pls keep up, FVKAS is the new name for this week. Next week it will be a completely different name Originally by: Rikeka But I'm not being fair... Hmm... The only ones that ever jumped to us while being outnumbered (and brought nice BS fleets) were ATLAS, and that's it (taking aside all nano-crap fights I've seen from all sides) No, you will find that all the different entities of FVKAS have jumped into D-IZ to engage your gangs. Atlas might have been the alliance to bring the main BS heavy fleets, but we have all had a pop at your carrier gate camps. Even good ol CHAOS
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:30:00 - [75] Originally by: fugazii Originally by: Razin Looks like fantasy to me. I donÆt know of any wars in recent history where the parties sat down prior to fighting and had drawn up victory conditions. In EVE (as in RL) everyone is free to decide for themselves; however, some victories are pretty obvious (like taking a system with an outpost), while others are questionable (like killing an afk supercap). "Looks like fantasy to me. I donÆt know of any wars in recent history where the parties sat down prior to fighting and had drawn up victory conditions. In EVE (as in RL) everyone is free to decide for themselves;" This is exactly the point I'm trying to make. Saying your view of victory is absolute, but at best it accounts for 50% of the view. All I'm saying is your view on how a war is won isn't any more wrong than his, they're both valid points. If your end game is sovereignty then congrats, and if your end game is killing more than you lose then congrats to them. Its all perspective. My personal view isn't either of those, but a combination. Efficiency and sovereignty is a war won, and to me one without the other is a loss. Your point of view may be valid in theory; however, this theory is overly simplistic, and shows its limitations when applied. Try it out yourself on some modern conflicts. In addition, some of the data you are using to make your conclusions is pure guesswork on your part (my view on how the war is won and what is my end game). Remember, all I talked about is an objective completed in a war. ...
Gunny Fisher VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.05.28 01:33:00 - [76] Originally by: Alski Originally by: KellyTash Originally by: Galor ***en Edited by: Galor ***en on 27/05/2008 14:09:24 Fact is you failed the first time and lost 3 MS(2 SDG, 1 xdeathx) and a ****load of caps trying to pull it off alone. This time you brought in Goons, TCF and UNL to help safe ED and remove FIX/V/XIII and you lost a mom (ED) and a titan (Goons) in the process. You may want to check up your history files under "Pyrrhus of Epirus", like you he won a battle. You may have captured BQO for now, but this war is far from over. Soooo You, FIX, Atlas, Roadkill, Smash, IRON didnt blob Carpe (a 400 man alliance) that previously owned Oasa? Dont whine over people brining friends in because you do exactly the same Bitter car-pet alt poster detected! IRON has not been blue to fix for at least the last year and a half...
n00b alt3 THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.05.28 03:06:00 - [77] Originally by: Gunny Fisher Originally by: Alski Originally by: KellyTash Originally by: Galor ***en Edited by: Galor ***en on 27/05/2008 14:09:24 Fact is you failed the first time and lost 3 MS(2 SDG, 1 xdeathx) and a ****load of caps trying to pull it off alone. This time you brought in Goons, TCF and UNL to help safe ED and remove FIX/V/XIII and you lost a mom (ED) and a titan (Goons) in the process. You may want to check up your history files under "Pyrrhus of Epirus", like you he won a battle. You may have captured BQO for now, but this war is far from over. Soooo You, FIX, Atlas, Roadkill, Smash, IRON didnt blob Carpe (a 400 man alliance) that previously owned Oasa? Dont whine over people brining friends in because you do exactly the same Bitter car-pet alt poster detected! IRON has not been blue to fix for at least the last year and a half... i hear hydra, triumvirate, the mc and b\|ack 0ut were there as well, with a mass/stain empire cap blob waiting in support. Crazy i tell you, crazy
Shylan NailorTech Industries Ka-Tet	Posted - 2008.05.28 05:03:00 - [78] Edited by: Shylan on 28/05/2008 05:05:09 Erm correct me if i'm wrong; but a whole bunch of you FIX running out of your outpost systems with two freighters full of Tech 1 mods is called desertion and rather embarrasing?? Kinda smells like you've wet your nappies and gone home crying to momma :o) Woot, send me a postcard from empire ... dont worry i'll pay the postage if you cant afford it .. hehe
Banlish Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.28 05:11:00 - [79] Originally by: Shylan Edited by: Shylan on 28/05/2008 05:05:09 Erm correct me if i'm wrong; but a whole bunch of you FIX running out of your outpost systems with two freighters full of Tech 1 mods is called desertion and rather embarrasing?? Kinda smells like you've wet your nappies and gone home crying to momma :o) Woot, send me a postcard from empire ... dont worry i'll pay the postage if you cant afford it .. hehe Quoting this for future use. Atlas Head Diplomat CEO - Di-Tron Heavy Industries ~~Carebear~~ Pvper?!?!?
Caldari Citizen51235	Posted - 2008.05.28 05:34:00 - [80] Originally by: Banlish Originally by: Shylan Edited by: Shylan on 28/05/2008 05:05:09 Erm correct me if i'm wrong; but a whole bunch of you FIX running out of your outpost systems with two freighters full of Tech 1 mods is called desertion and rather embarrasing?? Kinda smells like you've wet your nappies and gone home crying to momma :o) Woot, send me a postcard from empire ... dont worry i'll pay the postage if you cant afford it .. hehe Quoting this for future use. What he said ^^^^^
Shylan NailorTech Industries Ka-Tet	Posted - 2008.05.28 06:08:00 - [81] Edited by: Shylan on 28/05/2008 06:09:19 If you cant hold space so close to your friends, how do you thing your going to do attacking space sandwiched between your russian fans and irc/ed and all the others wanting to see the back of you? :o)
Prontifex THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.05.28 06:17:00 - [82] Might want to update your sig.
misscoda Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.28 06:20:00 - [83] Edited by: misscoda on 28/05/2008 06:22:48 Originally by: Caldari Citizen51235 Originally by: Banlish Originally by: Shylan Edited by: Shylan on 28/05/2008 05:05:09 Erm correct me if i'm wrong; but a whole bunch of you FIX running out of your outpost systems with two freighters full of Tech 1 mods is called desertion and rather embarrasing?? Kinda smells like you've wet your nappies and gone home crying to momma :o) Woot, send me a postcard from empire ... dont worry i'll pay the postage if you cant afford it .. hehe Quoting this for future use. What he said ^^^^^ It's a she you nubcake. BTW: Ka-Tet How do you know they were full with T1 items? It's not like you can muster the firepower to take one down or anything 1 FIX freighter vs 10 Ka-Tet = 10 dead Ka-Tet and a whistling freighter pilot. Also, search our killboard for Ka-Tet and check out the fittings. Gives a whole new meaning to the word "embarrassing".
Caldari Citizen51235	Posted - 2008.05.28 06:20:00 - [84] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Mitnal ([email protected])
ishkabibble Black Avatar Lost Sheep Domain	Posted - 2008.05.28 06:25:00 - [85] Originally by: Shylan Edited by: Shylan on 28/05/2008 05:05:09 Erm correct me if i'm wrong; but a whole bunch of you FIX running out of your outpost systems with two freighters full of Tech 1 mods is called desertion and rather embarrasing?? Kinda smells like you've wet your nappies and gone home crying to momma :o) Woot, send me a postcard from empire ... dont worry i'll pay the postage if you cant afford it .. hehe I have no clue whats going on in drone region but i can be sure of one thing, you seriously have no clue what your talking about NYC gets Rick Roll'd
Kyrie Elaison GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.05.28 07:33:00 - [86] hahahahahaha
Cippalippus Primus A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.05.28 09:20:00 - [87] Someone tell Ka-Tet that FIX is freightering drone compounds for easy raven ganks outside stations! -clp
Shylan NailorTech Industries Ka-Tet	Posted - 2008.05.28 09:27:00 - [88] Originally by: ishkabibble Originally by: Shylan Edited by: Shylan on 28/05/2008 05:05:09 Erm correct me if i'm wrong; but a whole bunch of you FIX running out of your outpost systems with two freighters full of Tech 1 mods is called desertion and rather embarrasing?? Kinda smells like you've wet your nappies and gone home crying to momma :o) Woot, send me a postcard from empire ... dont worry i'll pay the postage if you cant afford it .. hehe I have no clue whats going on in drone region but i can be sure of one thing, you seriously have no clue what your talking about lol ishkabibble, you really do know fa!!
xRazoRx The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.05.28 09:45:00 - [89] Edited by: xRazoRx on 28/05/2008 09:45:52 Nice thread, we'll post in it!
Micah Hunt	Posted - 2008.05.28 10:09:00 - [90] Nice gold medal, we'll take it We Win Forever Please sing the words: In the mist Of my endless search The best in life Becomes clear The rest just begins To fade by itself That's a trick I learnt Though it took so long Bitter tears taste so sweet I'm seeing my way For the first time in years When the love around Begins to suffer And you can't find love In one In one another Push away those bitter tears Bitter tears And I thought I was doing no wrong And I thought I was doing no wrong In the hour Of your needs Lips are trembling Cause your gonna be free Realise what were doing here The time is right to kill your fears Bitter tears taste so sweet I'm seeing my way For the first time in years When the love around Begins to suffer And you can't find love In one In one another Push away those bitter tears Bitter tears An I though I was doing no wrong Push away those bitter tears Thats what they call doing no wrong Thats what they call doing no wrong Push away those bitter tears Push away those bitter tears Push away those bitter tears Thats what they call doing it wrong

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