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OldNeb
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Posted - 2004.05.08 07:28:00 -
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Excellent idea Temujin.
I'm happy to help where needed, feel free to drop me an ingame mail/email or contact me on Coldfront.
I'll provide all the help I can.
Nebulai
Lead Events Producer
The Aurora Project
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Kyt Kraiten
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Posted - 2004.05.08 08:04:00 -
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absolutely a great point in eve history would be the TTI - INO war, in which TTI threathened to go to war against INO after an article published thereon about TTI, quickly therafter an alliance consisting of Endless, Das Paragon, Hosokawa, and Krath (?) backed the INO, the whole thing was a sort of cold war, but was great politics.
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Friday Dillinja
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Posted - 2004.05.08 08:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Kyt Kraiten
absolutely a great point in eve history would be the TTI - INO war, in which TTI threathened to go to war against INO after an article published thereon about TTI, quickly therafter an alliance consisting of Endless, Das Paragon, Hosokawa, and Krath (?) backed the INO, the whole thing was a sort of cold war, but was great politics.
Actually that brings up another good point. How do we rate pre-release history? Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as i can remember the war you are referring to was purely fought on the boards.
Would be an interesting question what to do with "fictional" history. 
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.05.08 10:30:00 -
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A lot of PIE history can be found at our temporary webbie:
www.pie-online.co.uk
It includes the wars with Oracle - but I am sure they would want to provide something from their own perspective... It's not fully up to date at the end but is a starting point!
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Dray
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Posted - 2004.05.08 19:35:00 -
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i do like the sound of it put imagine the task of verifying everything, and when that mammoth effort has been concluded, how do you format it, for myself i'd like to see a time line with links to the events, so the casual reader isnt put off by the ammount of text this would undoubtedly create.
with any luck this will happen, and i look forward to it.
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2004.05.08 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Temujin Destovai
The Reikoku history thing looks really nice^^
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Can we have something about Xanadu for public? 
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.05.09 02:12:00 -
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Ray, I'm lazy, write the SWI history...
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.05.09 08:36:00 -
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the main question is partiality of the author and therefor accuracy of the text.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.05.10 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk
the main question is partiality of the author and therefor accuracy of the text.
Which excactly they way it should be. Even with 10,000,000 pounds of Bs, it would still be fitting for those who belong to said groups to write its history.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Lliandra
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Posted - 2004.05.10 06:22:00 -
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well, like I said earlier, let me know what you like build, I could have it ready in about a week. With en xml feed for others to display it on their site as well.
send me an EVE-Mail if you;'re interested
Lliandra
aka. Ractoc
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Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.05.10 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Originally by: Tobruk
the main question is partiality of the author and therefor accuracy of the text.
Which excactly they way it should be. Even with 10,000,000 pounds of Bs, it would still be fitting for those who belong to said groups to write its history.
which is not the way it should be. if its gonna be history it cant be revisonist; then its not history its propaganda.
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Temujin Destovai
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Posted - 2004.05.10 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk
the main question is partiality of the author and therefor accuracy of the text.
Originally by: Temujin Destovai
Ya I would say the main story line is written put together by people involved in the matter and then reviewed by a team from all parts of Eve for accuracy (and for being unbiased)
But ya cant forget that they are all supported by the corp storylines. While these might be slightly biased, its of no problem due to the opposing corps having their own story lines. That way you can read what happened at some point in time, and the viewpoints of several of the involved parties of what happened aswell, and end up painting your own picture.
As I said the main story line should have a board of people that review/write submissions and make sure they are as unbiased as humanly possible. The corp storylines themselves will also be checked for being unbiased but with them it is less important. Since ALL the corps have the ability to enter submissions, a reader can read the main plot first, and then read how corp A lived through it, corp B, corp C, corp D and then paint his own picture.
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.05.10 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Kulach on 10/05/2004 08:56:17
Never thought I would say this, but well thought out Temujin 
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2004.05.10 10:45:00 -
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I think its difficult for corporations to write their histories without bias. If u are writing the history from your own perspective, even when u write as honestly as possible it still will be biased.
There is no way to get around this as 3rd parties cannot write corporation histories as they simply will not have the information to do so accurately.
Celestial Apocalypse has written its history on our website www.celesapoc.com. It can be accessed requesting "friends of celes" access to our forums.
Celes Kill Board
"Show them no mercy, for you will receive none"
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.05.10 13:13:00 -
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Then that raises 2 questions.
1.) Who can be trusted to write an unbiased history?
and
2.) Who, that is not involved, would know its full history?
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.05.11 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Then that raises 2 questions.
1.) Who can be trusted to write an unbiased history?
and
2.) Who, that is not involved, would know its full history?
i think its something that should be done witht he assistance of ccp. they should have the loggs that would clear up historical sticking points. Like who attacked first SA or CA and stuff like that. if its gonna be done do it right and ccp could make money off of it and use it for advertising or sell it ect.
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Posted - 2004.05.11 01:52:00 -
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a1 would like to see a prologue to this history consisting of the "Originals" - the very first player corporations.
ISC, Sabaoth, Krath, Das Paragon, OW, Endless, INO, the whole lot!
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ClarCE
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Posted - 2004.07.23 16:25:00 -
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I tell you what, if you could do this, and do it well theres no reason it couldn't become a proper chronicle like thing on the website, ccp should do that if it is 'that' good.
Maybe even get it printed up, and sell it in the shop, I'd buy one...
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ClarCE
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Posted - 2004.07.23 16:25:00 -
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I tell you what, if you could do this, and do it well theres no reason it couldn't become a proper chronicle like thing on the website, ccp should do that if it is 'that' good.
Maybe even get it printed up, and sell it in the shop, I'd buy one...
--'The Way is Shut'--
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.07.23 16:27:00 -
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DONT BUMP OLD DECAYING DEAD THREADS!
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.07.23 16:27:00 -
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DONT BUMP OLD DECAYING DEAD THREADS!
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2004.07.23 17:07:00 -
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I have a considerable amount of material on the Forsaken Empire and Huff Technologies. I would love to assist on this project as well.
If your interested please drop me an Evemail
Don't worry Forme FE folks I will do you justice.
Jhered Out!
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Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2004.07.23 17:07:00 -
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I have a considerable amount of material on the Forsaken Empire and Huff Technologies. I would love to assist on this project as well.
If your interested please drop me an Evemail
Don't worry Forme FE folks I will do you justice.
Jhered Out!
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.07.23 17:09:00 -
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havent read first few pages but a history of eve would be cool..
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.07.23 17:09:00 -
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havent read first few pages but a history of eve would be cool..
My vids and random stuff |
Kulach
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Posted - 2004.07.23 17:13:00 -
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This is an old dead thread. Let it rest in peace...
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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Kulach
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Posted - 2004.07.23 17:13:00 -
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This is an old dead thread. Let it rest in peace...
Just because something is fixed doesn't mean you can't break it
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.07.23 18:35:00 -
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sorry, i saw it at the top of the list and then felt an urge to post in it :P
RIP History of Eve thread
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.07.23 18:35:00 -
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sorry, i saw it at the top of the list and then felt an urge to post in it :P
RIP History of Eve thread
My vids and random stuff |
Mechanix
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Posted - 2004.07.23 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Then that raises 2 questions.
1.) Who can be trusted to write an unbiased history?
and
2.) Who, that is not involved, would know its full history?
i think its something that should be done witht he assistance of ccp. they should have the loggs that would clear up historical sticking points. Like who attacked first SA or CA and stuff like that. if its gonna be done do it right and ccp could make money off of it and use it for advertising or sell it ect.
Sry for posting on a long dead thread, but someone did drag it up and brought it to my attention.
There is no way you will ever get the truth of any event in Eve, short of witnessing it yourself, and even then its significance will probably largely escape you unless you know the enitre background story. All that can be done is present the opposing versions of any conflict, and let the reader decide what to believe.
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