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Posted - 2004.07.23 22:47:00 -
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 Originally by: Tobruk
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Then that raises 2 questions.
1.) Who can be trusted to write an unbiased history?
and
2.) Who, that is not involved, would know its full history?
i think its something that should be done witht he assistance of ccp. they should have the loggs that would clear up historical sticking points. Like who attacked first SA or CA and stuff like that. if its gonna be done do it right and ccp could make money off of it and use it for advertising or sell it ect.
Sry for posting on a long dead thread, but someone did drag it up and brought it to my attention.
There is no way you will ever get the truth of any event in Eve, short of witnessing it yourself, and even then its significance will probably largely escape you unless you know the enitre background story. All that can be done is present the opposing versions of any conflict, and let the reader decide what to believe.
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Anede
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Posted - 2004.07.23 22:56:00 -
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Personally I think it was approached in the wrong way. What could work would be to have the ability for anyone to submit a story to some kind of database, then have several 'neutral' moderators (for lack of a better word) pass it to be published/uploaded and edit it for blatent flames and exaggerated truths, kind of like a 'hitchhikers guide to the galaxy' but for eve.
That way, instead of just compiling a history, you can create an encyclopedia of corporations, alliances, systems etc. each having many different entries by different people.
Anyway, obviously thats just scraping the tip of the iceburg but still... could work.
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Anede
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Posted - 2004.07.23 22:56:00 -
[63]
Personally I think it was approached in the wrong way. What could work would be to have the ability for anyone to submit a story to some kind of database, then have several 'neutral' moderators (for lack of a better word) pass it to be published/uploaded and edit it for blatent flames and exaggerated truths, kind of like a 'hitchhikers guide to the galaxy' but for eve.
That way, instead of just compiling a history, you can create an encyclopedia of corporations, alliances, systems etc. each having many different entries by different people.
Anyway, obviously thats just scraping the tip of the iceburg but still... could work.
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.07.23 23:27:00 -
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When I was NTDF, we would call people who did this "gravediggers". 
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Posted - 2004.07.23 23:27:00 -
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When I was NTDF, we would call people who did this "gravediggers".
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.07.24 00:18:00 -
[66]
Actually this is something that we need to do... it's for the future!
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.07.24 00:18:00 -
[67]
Actually this is something that we need to do... it's for the future!
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.07.24 00:55:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Tristan on 24/07/2004 13:07:38
Edited by: Tristan on 24/07/2004 00:57:50
Why not get people to fill bits in? ill add some beta stuffs, for those poeple whos names i forget, i appologise in advance, but i use a * where i know someone else should be involved.
Any incorrect entries, or wrongly ordered items let me know :)
Omega corp, Solar Wind and Critical Mass enterprises declare war on Xtinction corporation (largest pirate corp in beta?) independantly.
First player stations built by - Critical Mass Enterprises - * - * - *
Armagedon Day, mass laggage and battle ship killing spree.
EVE goes live
m0o slaughter in Mara Passari
Xtinction collapses under the continued pressure of its enemies, the corp disbands.
Founding of Stain alliance in Stain
Oracle and Pie start off the epic Minnmatar vs Amarr Struggle
Cornexant build first player owned battleship (or whoever did)
RUS scores first memorable kills vs m0o
TTI and Evol war Kick off
Operation Phoenix Maw and the Creation of the Fountain alliance
Foutain Alliance Seeks Friends, diplomatic ties with Stain Alliance established.
Miner II Scandal
The Venal alliance is born
Fountain Alliance seeks to secure its space, talks of conquering CFS region, or assimilating it begin. Long term plans to control CFS space put into motion, to use CFS as, and i quote (non verbatim) "a buffer zone" "cannon fodder" and "somewhere we can go engage enemy blobs without risking our own miners getting blown up, before the enemy reach yz-lql"
Venal vs Fountain War
RUS / M0o / sinister vs Stain War / Fountain War
Splitt of the Venal Alliance / Ensuiing Civil War begins
Sinister moves to Curse
The ensuing new Curse alliance vs SA and FA <--- this is incorrect AFAIK. correction needed?
Evol leave FA and goes to war against Curse
Before anyone says i put some one sided stuff in there etc etc, obviously i have posted memorable things from my own corp and (ex)alliances perspectives. i dont play the game from YOUR screen. Some of the previous points i added to where irrelevant to me and no doubt others, yet massivley important to other people.
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.07.24 00:55:00 -
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Edited by: Tristan on 24/07/2004 13:07:38
Edited by: Tristan on 24/07/2004 00:57:50
Why not get people to fill bits in? ill add some beta stuffs, for those poeple whos names i forget, i appologise in advance, but i use a * where i know someone else should be involved.
Any incorrect entries, or wrongly ordered items let me know :)
Omega corp, Solar Wind and Critical Mass enterprises declare war on Xtinction corporation (largest pirate corp in beta?) independantly.
First player stations built by - Critical Mass Enterprises - * - * - *
Armagedon Day, mass laggage and battle ship killing spree.
EVE goes live
m0o slaughter in Mara Passari
Xtinction collapses under the continued pressure of its enemies, the corp disbands.
Founding of Stain alliance in Stain
Oracle and Pie start off the epic Minnmatar vs Amarr Struggle
Cornexant build first player owned battleship (or whoever did)
RUS scores first memorable kills vs m0o
TTI and Evol war Kick off
Operation Phoenix Maw and the Creation of the Fountain alliance
Foutain Alliance Seeks Friends, diplomatic ties with Stain Alliance established.
Miner II Scandal
The Venal alliance is born
Fountain Alliance seeks to secure its space, talks of conquering CFS region, or assimilating it begin. Long term plans to control CFS space put into motion, to use CFS as, and i quote (non verbatim) "a buffer zone" "cannon fodder" and "somewhere we can go engage enemy blobs without risking our own miners getting blown up, before the enemy reach yz-lql"
Venal vs Fountain War
RUS / M0o / sinister vs Stain War / Fountain War
Splitt of the Venal Alliance / Ensuiing Civil War begins
Sinister moves to Curse
The ensuing new Curse alliance vs SA and FA <--- this is incorrect AFAIK. correction needed?
Evol leave FA and goes to war against Curse
Before anyone says i put some one sided stuff in there etc etc, obviously i have posted memorable things from my own corp and (ex)alliances perspectives. i dont play the game from YOUR screen. Some of the previous points i added to where irrelevant to me and no doubt others, yet massivley important to other people.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.07.24 08:09:00 -
[70]
put dates on them? (roughly how long after beta) so it could be like 1 month AB lol
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.07.24 08:09:00 -
[71]
put dates on them? (roughly how long after beta) so it could be like 1 month AB lol
My vids and random stuff |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.24 08:24:00 -
[72]
I completely trust Xanadu to put out an unbiased story.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.07.24 08:24:00 -
[73]
I completely trust Xanadu to put out an unbiased story.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Managalar
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Posted - 2004.07.24 08:57:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Tobruk
...which is not the way it should be. if its gonna be history it cant be revisonist; then its not history its propaganda.
All history is 'revisionist history' it is only a question of quality (a good historian can only do his best to remain objective). I doubt anyone (other than the rat types) will make much of p killed y x times 3 months ago or whenever, just for propaganda.
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Managalar
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Posted - 2004.07.24 08:57:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Tobruk
...which is not the way it should be. if its gonna be history it cant be revisonist; then its not history its propaganda.
All history is 'revisionist history' it is only a question of quality (a good historian can only do his best to remain objective). I doubt anyone (other than the rat types) will make much of p killed y x times 3 months ago or whenever, just for propaganda.
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Aboath Greydroggen
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Posted - 2004.07.24 10:20:00 -
[76]
excelent idea.
I have dug up some of the history of the Krath Imperium and the Satal's Legion.
It's an old site so not so flashy but I hope you find the history usefull.
The site
Our archives can be found in the background section ( Satal's Legion) and the oldest writings ( Krath Imperium )
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Aboath Greydroggen
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Posted - 2004.07.24 10:20:00 -
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excelent idea.
I have dug up some of the history of the Krath Imperium and the Satal's Legion.
It's an old site so not so flashy but I hope you find the history usefull.
The site
Our archives can be found in the background section ( Satal's Legion) and the oldest writings ( Krath Imperium )
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Valdi
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Posted - 2004.07.24 17:24:00 -
[78]
*Mercenery Frigates gain respect and fear threw out the universe by killing all types of ships only flying frigates.
*BioMass Cartel and Space Invaders go to venal and cause hell (frapsed)
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We just came to crush...
Director of Recruitment
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Valdi
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Posted - 2004.07.24 17:24:00 -
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*Mercenery Frigates gain respect and fear threw out the universe by killing all types of ships only flying frigates.
*BioMass Cartel and Space Invaders go to venal and cause hell (frapsed)
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We just came to crush...
Director of Recruitment
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Bozl1n
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Posted - 2004.07.24 23:13:00 -
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If any 1s interested i think i can put my hands on some screenies from Operation Phoenix Maw, at least i think thats where they came from, if not it was a lge fleet battle that began the creation of the FA.
Gimme a yell ingame whoever, if ya want em
http:/eve-coldfusion.com
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Bozl1n
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Posted - 2004.07.24 23:13:00 -
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If any 1s interested i think i can put my hands on some screenies from Operation Phoenix Maw, at least i think thats where they came from, if not it was a lge fleet battle that began the creation of the FA.
Gimme a yell ingame whoever, if ya want em
http:/eve-coldfusion.com
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Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.07.24 23:15:00 -
[82]
Please don't bump old threads, thank you 
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |
Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.07.24 23:15:00 -
[83]
Please don't bump old threads, thank you
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |
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