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WhiteLitch
Caldari Strike Force
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:24:00 -
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I've been studying the map and the economy these last months, and my conclusion is that 0.0 alliances aren't about territory any more, but they are corp based around rare moons. Rather than space, each alliance seems to be divided into "dysprosium corp 1, dysprosium corp 2, promethium corp 1," etc where each corp in an alliance governs one rare moon.
SO, I grab a trusty geddon and a tackler, and test my theory. If everything is correct then RA core systems will be empty as those don't have the dysprosium moons but the outposts were built on the 2006-2007 model of holding space in 0.0.
Carefully moving thru skarkton and threading my way through the minor gate-keeper alliances of the Russians, we sneak by to Insmother. The choke points are littered with corpses and blocked by the occasional claw/rapier combo. It takes three hours of slow progress in a Russian version of cat and mouse, but we make it to Insmother.
Every system is covered by Ultima Ratio raven farmers... That much of 2006-2007 is left, and we come to RA Prime, their capital and crown jewel and it............. IS COMPLETELY EMPTY!
We then map out the 20-30 pos's and find 10 or so offline... A fleet of t1 frigs, shuttles, and some cruisers all fitted and just there... BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM... There goes an RA fleet! Pos modules are just floating everywhere! The trusty geddon settles in for a nice battle and BOOM BOOM BOOM as RA pos modules light the screen in nuclear pixels!
Then we camp a gate and start chasing ravens. One group of three isk farmers decides to rat right with us in the system--all three ravens warping together! The rapier manages to snag one, then all hell breaks lose as they run and we chase.
After an hour and some kills, one of the raven leaders says, "Me and you, 1-1." I laugh and wait, and wait, then the raven appears at the gate. I lock and fire. Then local spikes! It's the Russian blob! The scanner shows not 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 but TEN, YES TEN farmer ravens coming to me.
I panic and start warping but the raven is already in armor. I decide to go for it, and cancel warp... The raven is in structure then the megapulse 2 turn titanium carbide armor plates to slag--the raven POPS and I warp as 10 ravens fill the overview.
Yes, RA core systems are EMPTY but for farmer ravens and some occasional traffic.
Our cargo holds filled with loot, our next journey is back to low sec for a well-deserved rest!
Miner - KristofferTr
Fighter - Whitelitch
Tactical - Lafiele |
7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:29:00 -
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ehhehehehe excellent 
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ILikeTastyPie
Digital assassins
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:31:00 -
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And Im a chicken farmer
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InSession
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:32:00 -
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lol nice write up. I've been down to Insmother quite a few times recently and this is about right. There are a few systems where you'll find a few Russians farming ISK, the station systems for the most part are empty. I used to roam there, but it got rather boring with all the logoffski and whatnot. Was jumped like that a few times in my Ishtar as well, was fun 
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Shintai
Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:41:00 -
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LOL!
Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |
test548
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:51:00 -
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You have old info pal
RA core system is in Aridia, not in Insmother
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:52:00 -
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NIce
Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected] |
Starfall Hammer
Starfall Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.06 11:55:00 -
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Nice write up but this is not limited to RA its true of all space, try going around the old ASCN space and you will see the outpost systems with 2 people in them or in the North there are station systems with only 1 or 2 people, and the same is true of everywhere in 0.0.
The outposts are not wanted as all the money comes from moons, not from mining ops anymore.
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Kirja
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 12:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kirja on 06/06/2008 12:49:23
In other news RA eats children and makes a gheylove every Sunday.
P.S. my opinion is my own and do not represent anyone's opinion, even my own...
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Valkazm
Eve Defence Force
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:22:00 -
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If your story is true it was the only thread worth reading this week .. thanks for a good read ..
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Alexi Kalashnikov
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:32:00 -
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THIS JUST IN:
RATTING WITH A RAVEN = ISK FARMING
>50% of EVE CAUGHT AS ISK FARMERS AND IMMEDIATE PROSECUTION WILL FOLLOW.
Most station systems are empty in any kind of 0.0 base though.
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Daniel Grim
Solar Dragons
SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: Daniel Grim on 06/06/2008 13:33:02
Im in FinFleet's alt poast
omg
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Mary Anne
Belgica Optimus Serpensis
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kirja
Edited by: Kirja on 06/06/2008 12:49:23
In other news RA eats children and makes a gheylove every Sunday.
Dear Kirja,
we already knew that one. Except you missed mentioning that RA also steals little children's chamber pots.
Kind regards
Mary Anne
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Prontifex
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:51:00 -
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best thread all week
fix your photobucket |
Kirja
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mary Anne
Dear Kirja,
we already knew that one. Except you missed mentioning that RA also steals little children's chamber pots.
Kind regards
Mary Anne
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Natas Dog
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.06 14:01:00 -
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Breaking news: 0.0 alliances don't pack 50 PvPers in every station system they have and tend to keep them on front lines. In a related story, PvPers in need of ISK and industrialists take advantage of this and use these empty systems to make ISK and farm minerals. Stay tuned for our follow up stories, "Alliances mine moon minerals to support their capital ship programs", "PvPers don't usually engage unless they feel the odds are in their favor", and "Large fleet battles are laggy".
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TeufelsBeitrag
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.06.06 14:02:00 -
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Any RA member in a Raven is obvious a farmer and not just someone ratting his ass rich.
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xRevolveRx
Masters of Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.06.06 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Alexi Kalashnikov
Most station systems are empty in any kind of 0.0 base though.
You mean most of your own station systems. Good thing all the other alliances helped attack bob so ra/tcf/unl/goons could have all that uninhabited space. |
Prontifex
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.06.06 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: xRevolveRx
Originally by: Alexi Kalashnikov
Most station systems are empty in any kind of 0.0 base though.
You mean most of your own station systems. Good thing all the other alliances helped attack bob so ra/tcf/unl/goons could have all that uninhabited space.
this thread is now about BoB |
Pnuka
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.06 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: xRevolveRx
Originally by: Alexi Kalashnikov
Most station systems are empty in any kind of 0.0 base though.
You mean most of your own station systems. Good thing all the other alliances helped attack bob so ra/tcf/unl/goons could have all that uninhabited space.
What alliances are you referring to?
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xRevolveRx
Masters of Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.06.06 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Pnuka
Originally by: xRevolveRx
Originally by: Alexi Kalashnikov
Most station systems are empty in any kind of 0.0 base though.
You mean most of your own station systems. Good thing all the other alliances helped attack bob so ra/tcf/unl/goons could have all that uninhabited space.
What alliances are you referring to?
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.06.06 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Razin on 06/06/2008 14:44:16
To the OP:
I'm sure there are many ways to make ISK for the PVP player. Some purchase GTC's, others have to farm in a raven. Thems are the little realities we all live by.
I do like your writing style though. Why not come to Russian space in the drone regions and then write about it here? I'm sure it would make for an even more entertaining read!
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Iroku Mata
Endovelicus Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.06 14:54:00 -
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Look all the Russians trying to excuse or smack the reality of theyr be in EVE.
IT¦s true, RA are a bunch of ISK sellers and CCP are doing a **** to stop that.
RA need to DIE!
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.06.06 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Iroku Mata
Look all the Russians trying to excuse or smack the reality of theyr be in EVE.
IT¦s true, RA are a bunch of ISK sellers and CCP are doing a **** to stop that.
RA need to DIE!
What's your native language?
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0mega
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.06 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: 0mega on 06/06/2008 15:44:37
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Iroku Mata
Look all the Russians trying to excuse or smack the reality of theyr be in EVE.
IT¦s true, RA are a bunch of ISK sellers and CCP are doing a **** to stop that.
RA need to DIE!
What's your native language?
Tardish.
It's a little known dialect from the great nation of Moronia.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.06 16:04:00 -
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i think it's safe to say you just blew everyones mind
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Bapp
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 16:52:00 -
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:))))) nice)
Yeah, RA fleet its almost rifters, shuttles and rookie ships =)
t1 RA ftw!
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Re Mi
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.06.06 16:58:00 -
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I don't think this is accurate. RA is very much focused in European time zones. They are almost all European with a heavy dose of Russians (shocking, yes I know). You will see them in station when they are on their prime time, especially where they have building and logistics programmes. During that time the freighters, haulers and jump freighters as well as combat ships move almost non stop. They have heavy presence of interceptors and covert ops (probably used instead of shuttles) and yes, lots of Ravens, but not as many as Goons.
Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation |
Bapp
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 17:09:00 -
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Ultima Ratio its citizens, farmers/carebears.. so.. it means - a LOT of ravens =)
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Jack Archer
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.06 17:20:00 -
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all my characters are at the front, I'd be lax in my duties to teh swarm if I would put even one into one of our station systems to make isk
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Booya. |
Iasius
The Fated
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.06.06 17:26:00 -
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Eh up empire nubs here is your chance. Form up a rag tag fleet and go siege an 'empty' RA 0.0 station system today
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Full Spectrum Mercenary |
Omeega
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 17:35:00 -
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Good news, our warriors are fighting on our war fronts.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Chony
Grave Diggers
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 17:46:00 -
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Umm pretty much no one is gunna sit around a station system all day hoping for a noob to come in so they can get 1 kill. ******** OP
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Lorgoth
Children of Gjallarhorn
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Posted - 2008.06.06 18:01:00 -
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hehe, very good, mate.
it looks like you had some fun down there :]
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Lorgoth
Children of Gjallarhorn
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Posted - 2008.06.06 18:02:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Omeega
Good news, our warriors are fighting on our war fronts.
...or more likely running missions in empire
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Bloody Rabbit
Jita Miners
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Posted - 2008.06.06 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
What's your native language?
Spanish but I never did learn it all that well and I have forgotten most of it. Now its just English, but I do hate talking with all the dumb Americans, I need to learn a new language so that I can speak with smarter people.
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Omeega
UA Industry
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.06 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
Spanish
Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
I never did learn it all that well
Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
I have forgotten most of it.
Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
dumb
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Lorgoth
Children of Gjallarhorn
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Posted - 2008.06.06 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
Originally by: Razin
What's your native language?
Spanish but I never did learn it all that well and I have forgotten most of it. Now its just English, but I do hate talking with all the dumb Americans, I need to learn a new language so that I can speak with smarter people.
no to w takim razie polecam polski, wuja. :]
na pewno znajdziesz w taki sposob jakies chociaz szczatkowe
okazy inteligencji w sieci.
powodzonka o/
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rValdez5987
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment
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Posted - 2008.06.07 06:51:00 -
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tu hablas espaniol?
OH WAI----
/irony
and this thread is "lol" because its true. This could be said for most alliances core systems however. As long as you get through choke points you tend to be alright for roaming, even solo. |
fugazii
Deep Space Productions
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Posted - 2008.06.07 07:29:00 -
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ultima ratio kicked out my farmers from insmother back in KOS days :(
tho i have never gotten this stigma about isk farmers, they're a part of every mmo. there is 0 way of getting rid of them as long as there is money to be made through currency trade. this game however provides a perfect opportunity to legit players to capitalize on them through tax. isk farmers is big business and there is no reason to not make use of them. theyll be in your systems regardless of whether or not you want them there, you might as well bring them into a corp and tax them. at least that way your helping curb the flow of the isk trade though the tax.
"There is nothing they can do to counter 5000 f*****g Goons logged in and ready to go." - darius JOHNSON |
Raymond Dawkins
School of Applied Fail
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Posted - 2008.06.07 07:34:00 -
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Haha, poast moar plis
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Slow Joe
I can't believe it's not a noob corp
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Posted - 2008.06.07 08:32:00 -
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Lies! Everybody knows it's five minutes tops from empire to RA Prime in Insmother...
and there is no gatecamp other than the 0.0 entry system. 
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Xaziar Nortocus
Forces Unknown Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.07 09:02:00 -
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Edited by: Xaziar Nortocus on 07/06/2008 09:02:48
Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
Now its just English, but I do hate talking with all the dumb Americans, I need to learn a new language so that I can speak with smarter people.
this
Originally by: Dafuzz
And people say CAOD doesn't matter!
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darkin here
Is Usually Right
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Posted - 2008.06.07 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
Now its just English, but I do hate talking with all the dumb Americans, I need to learn a new language so that I can speak with smarter people.
You do understand English is spoken the world over right?
Broad characterizations of different nationalities are generally inaccurate and foolish.
Every collection of people on Earth will have intelligent people and dumb people.
I don't know which nationality you are, but I can safely guess which of the two aforementioned groups you fall into.
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Mary Anne
Belgica Optimus Serpensis
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Posted - 2008.06.07 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
Good news, our warriors are fighting on our war fronts.
The Prom moons in Cloud Ring? Ohhh wait thats about carebearing errr sorry (that slipped me) isk pharming isnt it?
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