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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.18 03:43:00 -
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Rokh with 4 mag stabs and 425 rails. You would be surprised.
But then if you trained missiles over rails its not much help. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.18 07:18:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Rokh with 4 mag stabs and 425 rails. It's not a bad alternative to the bog-standard Raven, but there is no progression to it unless you want to crosstrain for a vindi or kronos. Of course, getting as far as the tengu/heavy missiles and then cross-training is most certainly ideal if you're chasing what's good today.
Its got the tank he wanted and the same DPS then a CNR with Anti out to 70 km optimal Depending on if you want to do TE or Tracking Comps. Being able to use Antimatter almost 30 km further then other rail ships thanks to its optimal bonus more then makes up for the lack of damage bonus. You kill almost anything before it gets into drone range.
And You can use the mids for tank and even passive it easily while not losing gank. Also turrets do instant damage which helps keep you from wasting shoots.
Then its easy to crossover to vindi or kronos like you said.
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.18 08:06:00 -
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Selectable damage type is what the CNR has over a Rokh.
I Have run both in missions before but cause i have been testing Rokh since patch i found some interesting things. With anti is has more DPS then the CNR using faction missiles. Not by much but it doesn't need TPs and micro management to do the same job either and you can clear up all the frigs before they get close and not have to use drones at all. No lost DPS due to Defenders and exp velocity and radius the reload time is great as well. You can use rig slots to tank not rigors as well.
And against the rats he is going to be shooting it will clean up just as fast since its hitting both the arm and shield weakness in that range.
Only things it does not do well against is EM weak rats. But It did not do so bad even against them and I was actually finding it just as fast as arty mission maels against angel rats at long range that was a surprise to me. But hitting everything in optimal range rather then some falloff was huge.
And being able to use the new improved jav ammo for more DPS and tracking for rats the move in close is great as well.
Its apples and oranges.
Rokh wins just in pure ease of use and tank for me. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.18 08:38:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:RougeOperator wrote:Rokh wins just in pure ease of use and tank for me. Indeed, everything wins over missile ships (except the tengu) for ease of use and tank these days. Having done the EFT work myself now, it would appear, using t1 ammo and four damage mods as a base for comparison, the anti-matter rokh does have more than enough damage at effective range to match the CNR. I guess cruise missiles are comparatively worse than I remembered.
No they just buffed hybrids. You can fit a full rack of 425s without being left with no way to fit a proper tank now.
And gave it more damage and tracking and the 5 second reload time boosts its DPS as well.
I only talk about the Rokh now cause i actually tested it in game after checking the EFT numbers. I dont like making a claim I have not tested first hand.
The turret advantages just outweigh using missiles to me. EDIT: I also like not having to think about changing damage types mission to mission. As long as its not EM hole rats you can clear most missions easily in the space bus.
You want to see something crazy do a Blaster Rokh in eft. With a TE or two you get huge range with null ammo on blasters. Its amazing to clear Angel missions with a Blaster Rokh. Its a lot of fun. Im not done testing that though.
Mega, Domi, Kronos, Vindi, Rokh all became much better mission ships since patch. Next ship im going to test is a sentry rail domi. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2012.03.18 08:47:00 -
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OfBalance wrote:RougeOperator wrote:No they just buffed hybrids. "Comparatively worse," as in "compared to the new hyrbids, they are worse." So you see, we actually agree. I think you missed my concession in that post. vOv I would love to test the rokh myself, but that would require me to run missions that aren't epic arcs (which I refuse to run in anything but a t3 thanks to all the jumping across the galaxy). I don't want to run missions. Please don't make me run missions.
Cant blame you.
But if you know you are going against Rats weak to Hybrids Rohk is fantastic now. Especially in sites when the stupid rat spawns can be far off. |
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