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Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.08 03:16:00 -
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Edited by: Apoctasy on 08/06/2008 03:17:02 So last month, I randomly warp to a belt in Hek to try out something or other I cannot remember. In the belt sits an afk caracal getting shot at by rats. Ten minutes go by until he finally pops. I take his T2 loot for an easy 6 mil profit. Pilot then convo's me a minute later:
 
****** > why u kill me ****** > wot did i do 2 u Apoctasy > I did not ****** > why u flashing red 2 me then Apoctasy > for cleaning up your wreck Apoctasy > I work for a special concord division Apoctasy > we strive to keep space clean ****** > haha ****** > yea right ****** > just go for a pee ****** > and then loose a ship ****** > man ****** > its all the money i have Apoctasy > You were afk in the belt Apoctasy > and got popped by rats ****** > yea Apoctasy > I was notified of this and proceeded to do my rightful duty ****** > didnt relise rats popped me ****** > lol Apoctasy > and keep space clean for all ****** > ok let me go back and clean my wreack..or u already done that Apoctasy > I took the liberty of cleaning it up for you Apoctasy > Concord serves and protects the public Apoctasy > I did my duty to help keep space safe and clean ****** > lol ****** > any chance u could give me some money from my wreack then please ****** > to buy a new ship ****** > im 1 mil short ****** > lol ****** > cause it wasnt insured Apoctasy > unfortunately, Concord does not reimburse citizens for their own stupidity Apoctasy > so I am unable to help you in that regard ****** > lol..ok then....how baout some of the stuff back from my ship then ****** > please Apoctasy > The items from your wreck have been impounded by Concord and will be auctioned off at a later time ****** > haha... Apoctasy > all proceeds will go to Concord's personell division to help with salaries ****** > haha...u got this all in notepad or u do this alot hen <<Lol, making all this up as I go Apoctasy > Sir, I work for Concord's Organized Civillian Krash-cleanup Service Apoctasy > otherwise known as C.O.C.K.S. Apoctasy > and I strive to beautify space Apoctasy > by cleaning up wrecks left behind by other pilots Apoctasy > If you have any futher inquires, please visit www.cocks.com. ****** > haha ****** > u visit that alot then
At that point he leaves the chat. ^^ This is why I play Eve.
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Kirra Liu
H O R I Z O N
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Posted - 2008.06.08 03:26:00 -
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Seems to be a lack of carebear tears there, but I love the C.O.C.K.S. "wait.. that's not meant as it sounds". Anyway's who the hell flys a T2 fit caracal and don't know that rats pop your ship.
I once found a myridium battlecruiser afk at a moon in 0.0. She was in hostile space and had a full T2 fit. Best part about it was that she had a cloak fitted so would never have died if she had turned it on.
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Ratkon
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Posted - 2008.06.08 04:02:00 -
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SO you cleaned him out and didn't have the decency to shoot him a few isk to help him out? Seems like you have the mental amperage of a damp sponge.
I mean sure it was stupid but personally after throughly mocking him and having a good laugh I would have shot him at least what he needed to get back on his feet, it's called being a decent person and anyone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together would have figured that out.
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Kirra Liu
H O R I Z O N
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Posted - 2008.06.08 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ratkon SO you cleaned him out and didn't have the decency to shoot him a few isk to help him out? Seems like you have the mental amperage of a damp sponge.
I mean sure it was stupid but personally after throughly mocking him and having a good laugh I would have shot him at least what he needed to get back on his feet, it's called being a decent person and anyone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together would have figured that out.
I sure hope youre joking?
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Ratkon
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Posted - 2008.06.08 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: Ratkon on 08/06/2008 04:51:20
Originally by: Kirra Liu
Originally by: Ratkon SO you cleaned him out and didn't have the decency to shoot him a few isk to help him out? Seems like you have the mental amperage of a damp sponge.
I mean sure it was stupid but personally after throughly mocking him and having a good laugh I would have shot him at least what he needed to get back on his feet, it's called being a decent person and anyone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together would have figured that out.
I sure hope youre joking?
Actually no I'm not, and I'd like you to justify in complete detail on why it's a bad thing to help someone out even after they've been stupid? Also I'd like you to put some manner of intelligence behind your argument if you don't mind :)
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Warrio
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.08 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ratkon SO you cleaned him out and didn't have the decency to shoot him a few isk to help him out? Seems like you have the mental amperage of a damp sponge.
I mean sure it was stupid but personally after throughly mocking him and having a good laugh I would have shot him at least what he needed to get back on his feet, it's called being a decent person and anyone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together would have figured that out.
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Kirra Liu
H O R I Z O N
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Posted - 2008.06.08 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ratkon
Actually no I'm not, and I'd like you to justify in complete detail on why it's a bad thing to help someone out even after they've been stupid? Also I'd like you to put some manner of intelligence behind your argument if you don't mind :)
Ok then. You attack someone by saying that they have the mental amperage of a damp sponge because they chose not to "donate" isk to someone who lost their ship due to their stupidity, or for a better word, their lack of knowlege. Yes the dudes ship was killed by rats and then Apoctasy took the loot, which is completley fair. Now Apoctasy could have gave him isk or his loot back if he chose but didn't, so what. We have all lost ships and everyone looses a ship atleast once due to their own fault, this guy I hope has learnt his lesson, although I doubt that he really thought the rats wouldnt kill him, I mean c'mon the rats are shooting you and you dont get the idea that theyre trying to kill you?
I have helped people out that have been new to the game with isk and advice before, but if we helped everyone by giving them isk then they wouldnt learn how to be self sufficient.
You ask me to put some manner of intelligence into the argument? "Seems like you have the mental amperage of a damp sponge" coming from you to the op makes me think troll or angry carebear, which are you?
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Jericho Adeselli
Cav Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.08 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ratkon Edited by: Ratkon on 08/06/2008 04:51:20
Originally by: Kirra Liu
Originally by: Ratkon SO you cleaned him out and didn't have the decency to shoot him a few isk to help him out? Seems like you have the mental amperage of a damp sponge.
I mean sure it was stupid but personally after throughly mocking him and having a good laugh I would have shot him at least what he needed to get back on his feet, it's called being a decent person and anyone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together would have figured that out.
I sure hope youre joking?
Actually no I'm not, and I'd like you to justify in complete detail on why it's a bad thing to help someone out even after they've been stupid? Also I'd like you to put some manner of intelligence behind your argument if you don't mind :)
I'm fairly new to the game so I'm learning the ropes. Most of what I know comes from this very forum (lots-o-drama :) )...one thing I do know is your gonna make a good boyfriend to some low sec pirate named Al.
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Blackjack OMalley
Blackjack Security Services
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Posted - 2008.06.08 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ratkon SO you cleaned him out and didn't have the decency to shoot him a few isk to help him out? Seems like you have the mental amperage of a damp sponge.
I mean sure it was stupid but personally after throughly mocking him and having a good laugh I would have shot him at least what he needed to get back on his feet, it's called being a decent person and anyone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together would have figured that out.
You do realize that this is the Crime and Punishment forum, right? There is no mercy here. -------------------------------------------- Give him back the knife, because the children of men have need of it |

Ratkon
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Posted - 2008.06.08 06:16:00 -
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Edited by: Ratkon on 08/06/2008 06:18:03
Originally by: Jericho Adeselli
Originally by: Ratkon Edited by: Ratkon on 08/06/2008 04:51:20
Originally by: Kirra Liu
Originally by: Ratkon SO you cleaned him out and didn't have the decency to shoot him a few isk to help him out? Seems like you have the mental amperage of a damp sponge.
I mean sure it was stupid but personally after throughly mocking him and having a good laugh I would have shot him at least what he needed to get back on his feet, it's called being a decent person and anyone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together would have figured that out.
I sure hope youre joking?
Actually no I'm not, and I'd like you to justify in complete detail on why it's a bad thing to help someone out even after they've been stupid? Also I'd like you to put some manner of intelligence behind your argument if you don't mind :)
I'm fairly new to the game so I'm learning the ropes. Most of what I know comes from this very forum (lots-o-drama :) )...one thing I do know is your gonna make a good boyfriend to some low sec pirate named Al.
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Ratkon
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Posted - 2008.06.08 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: Blackjack OMalley
Originally by: Ratkon SO you cleaned him out and didn't have the decency to shoot him a few isk to help him out? Seems like you have the mental amperage of a damp sponge.
I mean sure it was stupid but personally after throughly mocking him and having a good laugh I would have shot him at least what he needed to get back on his feet, it's called being a decent person and anyone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together would have figured that out.
You do realize that this is the Crime and Punishment forum, right? There is no mercy here.
So tell me what crime was committed.
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Ratkon
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Posted - 2008.06.08 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kirra Liu
Originally by: Ratkon
Actually no I'm not, and I'd like you to justify in complete detail on why it's a bad thing to help someone out even after they've been stupid? Also I'd like you to put some manner of intelligence behind your argument if you don't mind :)
Ok then. You attack someone by saying that they have the mental amperage of a damp sponge because they chose not to "donate" isk to someone who lost their ship due to their stupidity, or for a better word, their lack of knowlege. Yes the dudes ship was killed by rats and then Apoctasy took the loot, which is completley fair. Now Apoctasy could have gave him isk or his loot back if he chose but didn't, so what. We have all lost ships and everyone looses a ship atleast once due to their own fault, this guy I hope has learnt his lesson, although I doubt that he really thought the rats wouldnt kill him, I mean c'mon the rats are shooting you and you dont get the idea that theyre trying to kill you?
I have helped people out that have been new to the game with isk and advice before, but if we helped everyone by giving them isk then they wouldnt learn how to be self sufficient.
You ask me to put some manner of intelligence into the argument? "Seems like you have the mental amperage of a damp sponge" coming from you to the op makes me think troll or angry carebear, which are you?
Mind telling me how it's "donating when the isk wasn't his to begin with?
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Kirra Liu
H O R I Z O N
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Posted - 2008.06.08 06:33:00 -
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The crime probably was takin the guys loot, although not really a crime, and as far as the isk not being his, well he took from the guys wreck, so that then became Apoctasy's stuff the second he put it into his hold.
P.S. You have more of an issue with this than the dude who lost his ship did 
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Ratkon
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Posted - 2008.06.08 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kirra Liu The crime probably was takin the guys loot, although not really a crime, and as far as the isk not being his, well he took from the guys wreck, so that then became Apoctasy's stuff the second he put it into his hold.
P.S. You have more of an issue with this than the dude who lost his ship did 
So, you admit that Apoctasy is the criminal in this situation (who stole isk/items/ore...etc) from this fellow that was afk (established). Now, the question I put to you was is regard to a comment that you made:
Quote: because they chose not to "donate" isk to someone who lost their ship due to their stupidity, or for a better word, their lack of knowlege.
That question is how is it considered "donating" when the items/ore/isk rightfully belonged to the victim?
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Kirra Liu
H O R I Z O N
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Posted - 2008.06.08 07:01:00 -
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Ofcourse Apoc is the criminal on this topic, why do you think he posted it here.
As for sayin about if you knocked me out would my stuf be yours, well duh.. this is a game, things are different here, the game of internet spaceships is a harsh place, dont try comparing things to real life. Thios forum section is the home of all the pirates and bad guys, so if they could knock you out ingame and steal your internet house they would.
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Tommy Reslin
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.08 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ratkon Edited by: Ratkon on 08/06/2008 06:52:07 Edited by: Ratkon on 08/06/2008 06:47:28 Edited by: Ratkon on 08/06/2008 06:47:05
Originally by: Kirra Liu The crime probably was takin the guys loot, although not really a crime, and as far as the isk not being his, well he took from the guys wreck, so that then became Apoctasy's stuff the second he put it into his hold.
P.S. You have more of an issue with this than the dude who lost his ship did 
So, you admit that Apoctasy is the criminal in this situation (who stole isk/items/ore...etc) from this fellow that was afk (established). Now, the question I put to you was is regard to a comment that you made:
Quote: because they chose not to "donate" isk to someone who lost their ship due to their stupidity, or for a better word, their lack of knowlege.
That question is how is it considered "donating" when the items/ore/isk rightfully belonged to the victim?
Quote: so that then became Apoctasy's stuff the second he put it into his hold
Ok, let's use that reasoning in another situation, say I watched you get knocked out in some way or another, while your out cold I come along and take everything you have (keys, wallet, cash...etc...etc). By your reasoning those items become mine as soon as I have possetion of them.
Not a very good use of logic don't you agree?
You basicly called the OP stupid, no offense but just because someone's mean or an ass doesn't mean they're not intelligent. Remember, many psychopaths are actually geniuses, not all, but there's quite a bit out there. Sure, you could claim he's an ass but stupid? You said earlier that anyone with two brain cells could figure it out. Ever consider the fact that he did but simply didn't care? For example, "If I steal this guy's loot I know it could upset him, I also know it could make it harder to get friends, on top of that I also realize that he may know powerful people who could hunt me down, but despite all of this I don't really give a damn because it's amusing."
This means that he fully understands his actions but it's all the more reason he behaved in such a manner.
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Ratkon
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Posted - 2008.06.08 07:27:00 -
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I only have one more thing to say on this subject, it's advice that has served me well in this game:
"Be careful, the toes you step on today may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow"
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Tommy Reslin
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.08 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ratkon I only have one more thing to say on this subject, it's advice that has served me well in this game:
"Be careful, the toes you step on today may be connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow"
I hope that you're referring to the guy stealing the guy's stuff and not threatening me because I am not justifying the op's actions. I'm just stating that someone can be an ass without being a dimwit. If by saying that you label me as an enemy.. that's your buisness but it's a little extreme.
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Bahamma Momma
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Posted - 2008.06.08 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ratkon SO you cleaned him out and didn't have the decency to shoot him a few isk to help him out? Seems like you have the mental amperage of a damp sponge.
I mean sure it was stupid but personally after throughly mocking him and having a good laugh I would have shot him at least what he needed to get back on his feet, it's called being a decent person and anyone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together would have figured that out.
S.T.F.U already
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Xanuf
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Posted - 2008.06.08 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ratkon
Mind telling me how it's "donating when the isk wasn't his to begin with?
You've opened my eyes.
I completely agree with you.
Pardon me, I need to go find the rat I killed and give him his salvage back. After that, I need to buy a bunch of tritanium off the market and give it back to the veldspar roids I mined a few months back.
It's going to be a busy night.
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Shikaku
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.08 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ratkon Edited by: Ratkon on 08/06/2008 06:52:07
Quote: so that then became Apoctasy's stuff the second he put it into his hold
Ok, let's use that reasoning in another situation, say I watched you get knocked out in some way or another, while your out cold I come along and take everything you have (keys, wallet, cash...etc...etc). By your reasoning those items become mine as soon as I have possetion of them.
Not a very good use of logic don't you agree?
Why do people feel a need to compare things with RL? Eve has no basis in RL whatsoever and btw stealing is not a criminal act in eve, it's a way of life.
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AL Gorika
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Posted - 2008.06.08 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jericho Adeselli ....your gonna make a good boyfriend to some low sec pirate named Al.
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PhantomMajor
De-Medusa Industries.
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Posted - 2008.06.08 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ratkon
I mean sure it was stupid but personally after throughly mocking him and having a good laugh I would have shot him at least what he needed to get back on his feet, it's called being a decent person and anyone with at least 2 brain cells to rub together would have figured that out.
WARNING; CAREBEAR ALERT !
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Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.08 15:50:00 -
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Internet spaceships - SERIOUS BUSINESS
I chose to partake in this 'criminal act' purely out of love for the 'victim' in question, and to hopefully teach a lesson so that he may better himself in his future endeavors.
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Einar Lightfingers
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.06.08 19:07:00 -
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Not to mention making some sweet iskies in the deal. 
And at the troll who just so happened to reference RL:  _______________________ BEES..... we blow stuff up
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Faife
Noctiscion
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Posted - 2008.06.08 21:10:00 -
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i help others cause they need it, not cause they deserve it.
*shrug*
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Karrade Krise
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Posted - 2008.06.09 00:00:00 -
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Apoctasy > unfortunately, Concord does not reimburse citizens for their own stupidity
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Rhak Amharr
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.06.09 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Apoctasy At that point he leaves the chat. ^^ This is why I play Eve.
This thread delivers reasons to play eve too.
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LtCol Killgore
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Posted - 2008.06.09 10:43:00 -
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LOL a refreshing change from the usual fat-geek-kid screaming. Good work on giving that caracal guy a funny side to look on.
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Princess Gally
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:03:00 -
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No tears in OP. Actually OP, while having a quite funny role playing attitude, is just a big looser not able to produce his own wrecks and just waiting for rats to do the job! And THAT Sir is very funny  -------------ONCOMING REVOLUTION------------ Miners united. Set your Trit prices to 8.00! -------------------------------------------- |
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