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Bahamma Momma
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Posted - 2008.06.08 10:01:00 -
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Good Read Actually
Sorry I had too!!
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Cosy
Porandor
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Posted - 2008.06.08 10:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Bahamma Momma
Good Read Actually
Sorry I had too!!
u got a problem man
remember politics = lie
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.08 10:58:00 -
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Lol, I dont think the author grasps the concept that EU =/= USA and hence dosent have the same goals and ideas, otherwise we would be the same state.
Anti America..... the European Beurocracy is - shock and horror- pro-Europe regardless of whether it conflicts with other nation states. Much like how the author wants America to "secure American interests" so is the same thing over here with regards to Europe.
The Euro is gaining momentum as a global reserve currency, difference is we are still bringing the Eastern Block up to Western Europe standards with a fair chunk of the budget where as the US spends it on its military.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.08 10:59:00 -
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Europe already tried that, they blew it 
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.08 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Europe already tried that, they blew it
/me shakes head - Europe had several superpowers over the last half millennium, the US kind of slipped in through the back door after WW2 and the colonies were granted independence under the UN convention.
It's just the European homelands uniting under the same banner, a European Federation if you will. Point is, more people more money and more resources in Europe than the USA, the only meaningful way to know the outcome for sure will be in a few decades when the Euro has had a thorough shakedown and the pan European Military amalgamation starts.
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Bahamma Momma
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Posted - 2008.06.08 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Europe already tried that, they blew it
/me shakes head - Europe had several superpowers over the last half millennium, the US kind of slipped in through the back door after WW2 and the colonies were granted independence under the UN convention.
It's just the European homelands uniting under the same banner, a European Federation if you will. Point is, more people more money and more resources in Europe than the USA, the only meaningful way to know the outcome for sure will be in a few decades when the Euro has had a thorough shakedown and the pan European Military amalgamation starts.
Honestly m8..I sincerely doubt this will happen. I've seen first hand the utter distain certain European countries have for one another. The way Europeans talk about other Europeans is quite disturbing. Ireland is in the EU and they haven't got a pot to Pi$$ in, which is probably why they do it on the streets. Thats a banner to be proud of :):)
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.08 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Bahamma Momma
Originally by: Kirjava
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Europe already tried that, they blew it
/me shakes head - Europe had several superpowers over the last half millennium, the US kind of slipped in through the back door after WW2 and the colonies were granted independence under the UN convention.
It's just the European homelands uniting under the same banner, a European Federation if you will. Point is, more people more money and more resources in Europe than the USA, the only meaningful way to know the outcome for sure will be in a few decades when the Euro has had a thorough shakedown and the pan European Military amalgamation starts.
Honestly m8..I sincerely doubt this will happen. I've seen first hand the utter distain certain European countries have for one another. The way Europeans talk about other Europeans is quite disturbing. Ireland is in the EU and they haven't got a pot to Pi$$ in, which is probably why they do it on the streets. Thats a banner to be proud of :):)
The north of the US and the south of the US once hated each other so bad that they partook in one of the bloodiest wars in history against each other, and look at the place now. For that matter, have you seen how much hate flows from Scotland to England, and yet we're all still playing happy families.
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Doctor Fruitloop
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Posted - 2008.06.08 11:26:00 -
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Nah, Europeans just like to ***** about each other, mention an outside party and suddenly you would think the British and French had been allies since the conceps of them came around 
I believe Americans have some *****ing about their own interstate rivalries right?
Also the above is my own personal experience of the Euro*****ing, eventualy the topic comes around to an outside country and we all ***** about that 
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Amuko
Disturbance Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:16:00 -
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Well if it stops Germany from invading us every few decades I'm cool with it.
Seriously though, I'm not sure if this will work out, or maybe with a very rough start (kind of like America as has already been pointed out).
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Remata Lakira
Terran Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Remata Lakira on 08/06/2008 12:23:45
Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: Bahamma Momma
The north of the US and the south of the US once hated each other so bad that they partook in one of the bloodiest wars in history against each other, and look at the place now. For that matter, have you seen how much hate flows from Scotland to England, and yet we're all still playing happy families.
A little disdain was hardly ever an obstacle in these matters
I agree with Patch, the yanks need a second civil war. I've kind of been bored since the Iraq war 'ended'. Now Sky News Active has nothing to use to show off its multi-channel interface.
Anyway, I've never liked the idea of the EU, I'd prefer an alliance of english-speaking countries.
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Magnus Nordir
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:28:00 -
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tl;dr version of the OP's link:
"Oh noes, the evil europeans are trying to get us god-fearing americans to think once-and-a-half before attacking another country! Ebbul Europe!"
ITT: Americans who still can't comprehend their empire is going down just like the colonial empires did in the 20th century.
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ReaperOfSly
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:33:00 -
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The agreement also calls for EU nations to surrender sovereignty in many areas to centralized decision-making; and it reduces national veto rights to allow more decisions to be made by majority voting instead of by unanimous consent.
No European nation will sign this. Except maybe Belgium.
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Magnus Nordir
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 08/06/2008 12:36:13
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
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The agreement also calls for EU nations to surrender sovereignty in many areas to centralized decision-making; and it reduces national veto rights to allow more decisions to be made by majority voting instead of by unanimous consent.
No European nation will sign this. Except maybe Belgium.
Infact, it's already been approved by the majority of the EU member-states. Only the Irish are having a referendu, and dare I say, I'll be tempted to go there and instruct them on the future of the European union with a Large Attitude Readjustment Tool if they screw this up again like they did with the last treaty.
Europe needs to stand united against if we are to remain relevant on a global stage.
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Amastat
Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:40:00 -
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It's obvious, forming a union, would make Europe stronger - and would assist Europe to become a super power - as an American, I don't really care - it's not like ****** has risen from the dead and is the Chairman of the EU.
If Europe wants to become a strong and influential group, let them be - there's nothing for me to be concerned about unless its being made out of cold blood. shouldn't have to worry about it unless your paranoid and think those kind of things all the time.
Europe works on the same wavelength as the US anyways, they would be allies if anything.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:43:00 -
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That article is one of the most americanised, biased pieces of drivel I've ever had the amusement to read on the internet.
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ReaperOfSly
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Magnus Nordir
Edited by: Magnus Nordir on 08/06/2008 12:36:13
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
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The agreement also calls for EU nations to surrender sovereignty in many areas to centralized decision-making; and it reduces national veto rights to allow more decisions to be made by majority voting instead of by unanimous consent.
No European nation will sign this. Except maybe Belgium.
Infact, it's already been approved by the majority of the EU member-states. Only the Irish are having a referendu, and dare I say, I'll be tempted to go there and instruct them on the future of the European union with a Large Attitude Readjustment Tool if they screw this up again like they did with the last treaty.
Europe needs to stand united against if we are to remain relevant on a global stage.
Hmm, I stand corrected then. I am very surprised anyone would agree to that though. Surrender sovereignty? We'll be back in the situation where we're not allowed to eat bananas which are too curvy, and this time we won't be able to say "up yours".
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ReaperOfSly
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
That article is one of the most americanised, biased pieces of drivel I've ever had the amusement to read on the internet.
Is there a proper article about it anywhere? I'd be interested to read it.
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Amastat
Europe works on the same wavelength as the US anyways, they would be allies if anything.
This is largely because the US is an alliance of former European colonies, just Europe had war ravaging its own continent with the civilian populace bearing witness to WW1 and WW2 and their children changing from that.
Last bloody war in America was the US Civil war, methinks if WW2 was fought on American soil the stances of militarization and rapport would be reversed.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.08 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Verone on 08/06/2008 12:48:53
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Verone
That article is one of the most americanised, biased pieces of drivel I've ever had the amusement to read on the internet.
Is there a proper article about it anywhere? I'd be interested to read it.
BBC News Link from mid 2007
Probably 100% more useful than that "America, **** Yeah!" tripe.
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Wild Rho
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.08 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Edited by: Verone on 08/06/2008 12:48:53
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Verone
That article is one of the most americanised, biased pieces of drivel I've ever had the amusement to read on the internet.
Is there a proper article about it anywhere? I'd be interested to read it.
BBC News Link from mid 2007
Probably 100% more useful than that "America, **** Yeah!" tripe.
Thanks for linking that, gotta agree with your statement about the first.
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Ilvan
Post with your Brain
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Posted - 2008.06.08 13:42:00 -
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I think Canada should join the EU.
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Bahamma Momma
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Posted - 2008.06.08 13:56:00 -
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Edited by: Bahamma Momma on 08/06/2008 14:03:13
Originally by: Verone
Edited by: Verone on 08/06/2008 12:48:53
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Verone
That article is one of the most americanised, biased pieces of drivel I've ever had the amusement to read on the internet.
Is there a proper article about it anywhere? I'd be interested to read it.
BBC News Link from mid 2007
Probably 100% more useful than that "America, **** Yeah!" tripe.
Can I have kisses..on both cheaks plz!!
EDIT: The agreement also calls for EU nations to surrender sovereignty in many areas to centralized decision-making; and it reduces national veto rights to allow more decisions to be made by majority voting instead of by unanimous consent.
WHY????
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.08 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ilvan
I think Canada should join the EU.
To be honest if they applied I cant see a damned good reason to refuse , might be something Britain AND France agree on 
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.08 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Bahamma Momma
EDIT: The agreement also calls for EU nations to surrender sovereignty in many areas to centralized decision-making; and it reduces national veto rights to allow more decisions to be made by majority voting instead of by unanimous consent.
WHY????
To cut down on bull**** beurocracy and to put France in line vetoing things that benefit the entirety of Europe but dips into the subsidies of French farmers.
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Ilvan
Post with your Brain
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Posted - 2008.06.08 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Bahamma Momma
EDIT: The agreement also calls for EU nations to surrender sovereignty in many areas to centralized decision-making; and it reduces national veto rights to allow more decisions to be made by majority voting instead of by unanimous consent.
WHY????
Hey, what's the name of that huge nation that's actually just a bunch of "states" that are "united" under an overarching centralized government? It seems to have slipped my mind.
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2008.06.08 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ilvan
I think Canada should join the EU.
But I dont wanna be a eurofag.
And srsly, the geographical separation is just too much.
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.08 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Brea Lafail
Originally by: Ilvan
I think Canada should join the EU.
But I dont wanna be a eurofag.
And srsly, the geographical separation is just too much.
EU allready has territory in the Americas, Canada would be welcomed into the fold methinks.
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mama guru
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.08 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: mama guru on 08/06/2008 14:46:01
  at that article. What a goddamn tool, the guy who wrote it.
Also: Thanks to Verone for linking a proper newsitem.
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Gaunty
Macabre Votum
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.06.08 15:38:00 -
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I'm Irish and will be voting on this this coming week. Tbh i'm gonna be voting yes, i was thinking no but after reading that article i've decided i'm gonna vote yes just to **** him off. The part where he said EU peacekeeping troops had a terrible record in the Lebanon is highly insulting to me considering the record Irish peacekeepers have in that country. Anyway, even if i did vote no and the treaty was rejected by the majority our government will put it back in front of us and say "Sorry lads, you didn't get it last time obviously, vote yes" just like what happened with the Nice Treaty. Democracy me arse.
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MAXSuicide
The Ludovico Technique
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Posted - 2008.06.08 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 08/06/2008 15:55:06
lol.. americans. God forbid europe actually regains its independence from American domination (that was only possible because of 2 crippling world wars and some nice little backstabs of ur own allies.. "American interests" :rolleyes:)
i love these funny articles tho. but yea, politics = no on these boards so ibtl.
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