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Zifrian
GFB Scientific
Interstellar Corporate Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.08 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Zifrian on 08/06/2008 20:36:42
Basically I want something fast that I can use as a shuttle but has more cargo space. Right now I got Atron, Executioner, and Slasher as possibles. I was going to put on one overdrive and one stabilizer. The slasher has 1 low, the others 2 but they both have decent base speeds so...Basically, what is the best I can do on autopilot?
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tarin adur
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.06.08 20:37:00 -
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Executioner or Slasher tbh
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WhisperSilk
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Posted - 2008.06.08 20:40:00 -
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Vigil after minni frig 5.. its the fastest... probe makes a great frig hauler
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NoNah
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Posted - 2008.06.08 20:41:00 -
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I doubt the slasher has capacitor enough to mwd or even warp constantly.
Executioner might atleast with a battery or cap recharger. Then again you could go with a ceptor or vigil?
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Zifrian
GFB Scientific
Interstellar Corporate Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.08 21:59:00 -
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 Originally by: WhisperSilk
Vigil after minni frig 5.. its the fastest... probe makes a great frig hauler
Yeah, didn't notice this. Plus 3 lows.
Probe has more space, but I really don't need that much more. This will be for getting data cores and stuff between 10-100m3 basically.
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Grimpak
Trinity Nova
Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.08 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
I doubt the slasher has capacitor enough to mwd or even warp constantly.
if you slap a mwd, cap recharger and PDU on the slasher, you get some good cap with good recharge to boot.
long warps are still a problem however.
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Isaac Starstriker
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Posted - 2008.06.09 05:16:00 -
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Edited by: Isaac Starstriker on 09/06/2008 05:17:22
I use an Executioner to great effect as my personal "shuttle". Cap is never an issue with a MWD. Even without a cap recharger. Haven't put a Overdrive on it yet (lazy) but it works for me.
However in the end, nothing beats the speed of the shuttles with Autopilot.
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Segge Bolled
Rainy Day Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.09 05:26:00 -
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IIRC, the Republic Fleet Firetail is really, really fast for a "T1" (albeit really Faction) frigate. Check the Contracts for them.
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sgt carlini
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.09 07:11:00 -
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I might be a noob on this topic, but I use a condor with a mwd, battery and a capacitor power relay. It goes 2.5k and I leave it on autopilot with a 2oz weight on f1.
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Dr Sheepbringer
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Posted - 2008.06.09 07:24:00 -
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I'm using the executioner with MWD, Overdrive and stabilizers. Fast, and warps like nothing I have ever seen :D But as always, manual navigation is the key.
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Grarr Dexx
Naval Protection Corp
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.09 07:33:00 -
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Edited by: Grarr Dexx on 09/06/2008 07:33:49
Istabs on an executioner is amazing. It's pretty much a shuttle, and with a t1 cap recharger, a MWD and a cloak to boot!
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Kirja
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.09 07:49:00 -
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Ares is the fastest. Put on rigs that reduce warp time.
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum
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Posted - 2008.06.09 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Istabs on an executioner is amazing. It's pretty much a shuttle, and with a t1 cap recharger, a MWD and a cloak to boot!
You should be able to fit some size of cap battery on the executioner rather than the recharger. In practice this is almost always preferable, since the only thing that really requires cap is long warps (you will only ever need one cycle of MWD to get to the gate), and so total capacity is much more important than recharge rate.
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Jethro Amar
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Posted - 2008.06.09 09:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jethro Amar on 09/06/2008 09:52:49
Vigil I guess, with it's 1 100 000kg mass and 3 low slots for 2x nano, 1xinertia stab. Agility is more important than raw speed, inertia stabs > overdrives.
There's a trick for fast autopiloting. Unlock icons in HUD and put mwd on top row. Turn on autopilot, press mwd button (F1 for me) and stick something into the keyboard to keep the key pressed (2p coin is perfect :) ). This way whenever you get out of warp your mwd will turn on and the frig will speed to the gate. It's almost as fast as 0m warps. Faster than shuttle for autopiloting. The problem is you can't use you computer for anything else (F1 key pressed), but you can still have or prepare dinner etc. :) Also turn off sounds otherwise you'll hear constant beeping and error messages :)
Obviously, this only works for hi sec and you're still in danger of suicide gank.
For lowsec add cloaking device and fly manually. If you see a gang waiting at the gate click somewhere in the space away from gate, turn on MWD, then half second later turn on cloak. Your mwd will still work for the full cycle so you have very good chance of getting out of trouble. When you're safe away turn off cloak and warp. Cloaking devices need Electronics V though.. and if you want to be really safe you also need Electronic Upgrades V for cov ops frigate. Cov Ops cloaking device on them makes you almost ungankable, even in 0.0, as you have speed to get out of bubbles.
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Roy Faller
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Posted - 2008.06.09 11:36:00 -
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I fly a raptor with 2 hyperspatial velocity optimizer rigs on. It's pretty useful, but mainly I do it for the hilariously fast 19.4 A/s warp speed.
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Talsha Talamar
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:47:00 -
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As a disposable Shuttle replacement I use this:
[Executioner, Execab]
Inertia Stabilizers I
Nanofiber Internal Structure I
1MN MicroWarpdrive I [Afterburner on alts]
Cap Recharger I
If you plan not to use the MWD/AB and only then
switch out the nano for an OD.
The reasoning behind this is,
that the higher ship a ships agility and
the lower its mass is,
the faster it accelerates.
A ship needs to be
at maximal speed to enter warp,
therefore ODs raise the time to warp.
Acceleration is also an important factor,
if you mwd to a gate,
since obviously you want to spend
as much distance at maximal speed as possible,
You need some Cap skills to run the MWD stable.
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Saietor Blackgreen
The First Foundation
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:49:00 -
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As a Matari char I use Reaper. Velocity bonus comes handy, he-he :)
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Lego Maniac
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:53:00 -
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the firetail if you want to be sexy while shuttling
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AKULA UrQuan
Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:32:00 -
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Slap a small cap battery on a slasher then have warp drive operation trained to level 3 and it'll warp far as you need to. Put a nano in the low to lower mass and thus be able to warp longer distances. Still have enough grid for a T2 AB and 2x 125 autocannons.
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2008.06.09 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Talsha Talamar
Quote:
Agility is more important than raw speed, inertia stabs > overdrives.
The reasoning behind this is,
that the higher ship a ships agility and
the lower its mass is,
the faster it accelerates.
A ship needs to be
at maximal speed to enter warp,
therefore ODs raise the time to warp.
That last part isn't true. As max velocity goes up, time to different percentages of max speed remains the same. So time to enter warp is unchanged.
Since the OP seems mostly interested in autopiloting, I'd say overdrives would be quite important. If not APing, then istabs.
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Anaalys Fluuterby
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Posted - 2008.06.09 15:16:00 -
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I normally use a Stabber as a shuttle. Doesn't take much more training than a frig, is as fast under MWD (pulse the MWD once while moving to gate under autopilot), as agile as a frig with Inertial stabs or nanos, and holds more. Not that expensive either.
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achoura
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Posted - 2008.06.09 15:22:00 -
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Firetail.
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FT Diomedes
Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.06.09 15:52:00 -
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I have found the Firetail is excellent for this. A blockade runner with lots of overdrives is also pretty good - plus you have the flexibility to carry some cargo expanders with you for a return trip if you have to carry more stuff back than you brought out.
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Michael Caldar
DangerZone Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.09 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Michael Caldar on 09/06/2008 16:32:28
Being lazy I just use a Crow. Cap battery, MWD, overdrives in lows (carry Cargo Expanders just in case) - considerably more expensive than Firetail skill-wise but cheaper to build (than buy a Firetail). On autopilot you just tap MWD once and you're through the gate before you actually reach full velocity. 
It's much faster then the said Firetail (base/warp) as well. I'm sure the other races must have their equivalents if Caldari isn't your "flavour"...
Hmmm.. Raptor is a tad slower (base) but much faster in warp (thank you Roy for pointing this out)... and cheaper. Can you invent a Raptor from a Condor BPO? 
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Ehranavaar
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Posted - 2008.06.09 16:32:00 -
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you might want to raise your sights from frigates to blockade runners. lots of cargo space in one of them compared to any warship and fitted right they are quite zippy things. not so much in running about your system but the high warp speed is nice specially if you rig the thing for that.
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Helen Hunts
Red Dragon Mining inc
Red Dragon Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.09 16:50:00 -
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Depending on the load I have to shift, I'll use my nice Interceptor (rigged to 1.2 second align time) or my Blocade Runner, similarly rigged for alignment (although not nearly quite so fast into warp).
As far as going on AP....I don't really have anything that heavily tanked. Even my interceptor that's rigged for max velocity is still disturbingly vulnerable during that 13km hike to the gate. (and I'm pulling 7-8k speeds) Quite frankly, if you see me on AP, it's with something devoid of cargo or any salvagable value. (and even when I'm empty, I've got other things to do than plod along on AP)
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FT Diomedes
Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.06.09 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: FT Diomedes on 09/06/2008 18:05:37
You might consider some of the things in this thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=563300&page=1#1
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Guillame Herschel
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.06.09 18:44:00 -
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[Vigil, Minmatar Shuttle]
High: empty
Mid: 1 MN MicroWarpdrive, Small Capacitory Battery
Low: 2x Overdrive, 1x Nanofiber
If you get caught in this ship anywhere, you're an idiot (I got caught once in it, because I was an idiot).
Originally by: Zifrian
Basically, what is the best I can do on autopilot?
The absolute best on autopilot will be the Ares interceptor with a snake set, faction overdrives, and T2 aux thruster rigs. But that's a bit excessive for AFK travelling. 
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.09 18:56:00 -
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Probe ftw for a nice quick cargo frigate. Moderately quick, reasonably nimble, and VERY good cargo for a Frigate. Paper soft however (but so are shuttles)
Vigil is my other favorate for this job. Only 150 cargo, but very nimble and quick. Also paper soft.
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Joe Starbreaker
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:10:00 -
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Executioner
hi: cloak
mid: MWD, battery
low: 2x warp core stabilizer
Pretty much unstoppable.
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Salpad
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Posted - 2008.06.11 09:40:00 -
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I haven't played much recently, but IIRC the frigate I'm using as my "heavy shuttle" is a Tristan. ISTR it has 3 LOW slots, and a decent cargo capacity, but since I haven't flown it since April, I may be misremembering something.
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Laughlyn Vaughns
Lagos-Vaughn Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:00:00 -
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i use a firetail, with couple Overdriver II's and mwd its gives me about 820m/s with between 66m3 or upto about 200+m3 with cargo expanders. its great for hauling BPO/C's small amounts of Megacyte/Zydrine/Moprhite for a T2 build or picking up Skills u left in a hangar 30 jumps away.
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