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Lord KesH
Nymphetamine Junkies Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.09 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Eric Nolani Cute female lieutenants should be standard features on carrier bridges!
Aye its always good to have hot chicks as slaves on the carrier ^^ ------------------------------------
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EluThingol
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: Alazais Valdor (FC) instructed the carrier pilots to linger on the gate as nonchalantly as possible.
lol, how does that work then?
Hmm I wonder the same thing the best my carrier can manage is wallowing like a beached whale never mind linger on the gate nonchalantly ...
Anywa nice story love it when a self destruct story goes wrong .
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EluThingol
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: EluThingol on 09/06/2008 21:20:49
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ElweSingollo
The HIgher Standard
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Posted - 2008.06.09 21:21:00 -
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EluThingol was me silly alt -_-
CCP and Eve Online... It's not a bug, it's a feature
In Before I Get M***** Again
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Odessima
SPORADIC MOVEMENT
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Posted - 2008.06.09 23:42:00 -
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OP was a good read, and I have to say, it was good to see Lord Kesh tell his side of it. Self Destruct is bad...... To BYDI and N.L. stop moaning about FDN dropping capital ships on you, it gets boring, and as you can see FDN are quite capable of Cynoing their own fleets in. Its a valid tactic the same as gate camping and blobing, you lot very rarely fight unless you have the upper hand so why trash talk others for doing the same thing you do. Just think if you turned over a good leaf and became carebears you wouldnt have to worry about FDN's capital ships.
My comments are my own and arent neccesarily anything to do with my corp.
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carleyjones
Blood and Silver
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Posted - 2008.06.09 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Taram Caldar I don't have any respect for pilots who do it.
im sure thats a crushing blow for any pilot that has self destructed
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Orar Ironfist
Capital Produce
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Posted - 2008.06.10 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Orar Ironfist on 10/06/2008 00:33:39 My diplomatic side is telling me to be nice and say things to likes of good trap foundation, lord kesh = bad for self destructuing, and alt-posters suck.
But after being witness so many times to fdn's "play-style"i can give no respect to fdn in anything they do or try to do. Kesh self-destructing was kinda lame yea but if you guys ***** about self-destructing being lame why not ***** about hot-drops being lame? Fail tbh for the double standard. My proof on fdn's general fail (srry guys theres a few good members in you but most are too reliant on capital ships and the blob of carriers you always bring) http://www.foundati0n.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11042
Edit: fail link
Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
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Ingold Hammersmith
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Posted - 2008.06.10 01:49:00 -
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Well...tbh. They are all just tactics. FDN hot drops carriers cause we can and it's a part of EVE, and it works pretty ok for us. If self destructing 3 bil ISK of ships in Bosena to avoid 2 loss mails is a valid tactic for these guys operation then have it. Fair fights don't really seem to be a part of this game but out maneuvering the enemy does.
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Avernus
Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2008.06.10 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Sariyah Oh, you do get insurance money from self-destruct? Isn't that insurance fraud?
Actually, would be great if you didn't get any insurance for self-destructing (including basic), as a new mechanic. Great battle report btw. |
rValdez5987
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:06:00 -
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nice read. |
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Lithalnas
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:09:00 -
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i would just fake a killmail of the correct shiptype and a self destruct I. |
ori16
Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:19:00 -
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U foundation guys are morons end this
Moron |
pc dude
Ghosts of Ragnarok
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Posted - 2008.06.10 20:30:00 -
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you know, when u read over this thread most people were entertained by the battle report. you find that there are a few bitter angry people posting in the thread. care to guess who foundati0n has dropped carriers on w/ finely crafted plans? |
Garion Thorongmor
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.11 05:14:00 -
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I don't really understand Foundation's need to make a post about a very common, and relatively small fight, the same kind that happens hundreds of times per day all across New Eden.
I also don't find it to be a major accomplishment that they can win a battle with 3-4 times the support fleet and a carrier blob to boot. At the very least, not worthy of a COAD thread.
I believe the reason for the OP was two fold. One reason is because they are upset that a carrier was self destructed and they didn't get a killmail. The other reason is simply an attempt at trying to make Nocturnal Legion and Beyond Divinity look bad, and as for most of their posts, this is usually the case at hand.
They complain about the smack from Beyond Divinity but in all honesty Foundation seems to love the smack both ways, it's just a shame they are no good at it. This thread was created to generate forum smack, just disguised as a battle report.
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Khalid Zhee
Fairlight Corp FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.11 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Garion Thorongmor Edited by: Garion Thorongmor on 11/06/2008 05:16:42 I don't really understand Foundation's need to make a post about a very common, and relatively small fight, the same kind that happens hundreds of times per day all across New Eden.
Capitals self-destruct hundreds of times a day over New Eden, with one escaping and self-destructing anyway? |
Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Tri Optimum Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.06.11 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Shocker Isnt suicide a sin?
ever heard of sepuku? |
Hobblah
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.06.11 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Khalid Zhee
Originally by: Garion Thorongmor Edited by: Garion Thorongmor on 11/06/2008 05:16:42 I don't really understand Foundation's need to make a post about a very common, and relatively small fight, the same kind that happens hundreds of times per day all across New Eden.
Capitals self-destruct hundreds of times a day over New Eden, with one escaping and self-destructing anyway?
I agree with this guy. The OP was best I have seen for a while and made me laugh. Point of the thread is not the kills. That happens all the time.
Lord KesH made excelent reply which saved all that could be saved but somehow you and couple of others seem to want to drag that down and turn this into smackfest. |
Jalif
Deviance Inc Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Garion Thorongmor Edited by: Garion Thorongmor on 11/06/2008 05:16:42 I don't really understand Foundation's need to make a post about a very common, and relatively small fight, the same kind that happens hundreds of times per day all across New Eden.
I also don't find it to be a major accomplishment that they can win a battle with 3-4 times the support fleet and a carrier blob to boot. At the very least, not worthy of a COAD thread.
I believe the reason for the OP was two fold. One reason is because they are upset that a carrier was self destructed and they didn't get a killmail. The other reason is simply an attempt at trying to make Nocturnal Legion and Beyond Divinity look bad, and as for most of their posts, this is usually the case at hand.
They complain about the smack from Beyond Divinity but in all honesty Foundation seems to love the smack both ways, it's just a shame they are no good at it. This thread was created to generate forum smack, just disguised as a battle report.
It is an unfortunate consequence that me speaking my mind will result in this stupid thread being bumped to the top.
QFT.... |
Zulu Six
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jalif
Originally by: Garion Thorongmor Edited by: Garion Thorongmor on 11/06/2008 05:16:42 I don't really understand Foundation's need to make a post about a very common, and relatively small fight, the same kind that happens hundreds of times per day all across New Eden.
I also don't find it to be a major accomplishment that they can win a battle with 3-4 times the support fleet and a carrier blob to boot. At the very least, not worthy of a COAD thread.
I believe the reason for the OP was two fold. One reason is because they are upset that a carrier was self destructed and they didn't get a killmail. The other reason is simply an attempt at trying to make Nocturnal Legion and Beyond Divinity look bad, and as for most of their posts, this is usually the case at hand.
They complain about the smack from Beyond Divinity but in all honesty Foundation seems to love the smack both ways, it's just a shame they are no good at it. This thread was created to generate forum smack, just disguised as a battle report.
It is an unfortunate consequence that me speaking my mind will result in this stupid thread being bumped to the top.
QFT....
Not very true at all. The thread isn't about the fight. It isn't about killing capital ships, or hot drops or anything else. It's about self-destructing caps so that you wouldn't have to *GASP - God forbid!!!* post a billion ISK lossmail on your killboard and ruin your K:D. Or maybe you just didn't want to have to post losses to FDN. Or maybe you were trying to protect the Isk Efficiency numbers on your kb, which also goes back to K:D. Whatever the reason for it is, if it's your leader's policy to order all capital ships to initiate self destruct (which is in itself an admission of defeat: "hey, we're gonna lose anyway, right?") it makes Nocturnal Legion a lot less <SCARY>.
Pussies.
I am Havohej's alt. I would post with my main, but it's banned vOv |
Sean Avery
Deviance Inc Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zulu Six
Pussies.
who's hiding behind an exclamation point hmmmmmm?
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Zulu Six
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sean Avery
Originally by: Zulu Six
Pussies.
who's hiding behind an exclamation point hmmmmmm?
Can you read? Look at my sig. |
Sean Avery
Deviance Inc Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.11 11:56:00 -
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Touche I had sig's off....I retract my earlier statement |
Flashh Gorden
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.06.11 15:45:00 -
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Great read. If a battle report is well written its a pleasure no matter how big or small the enagement is. The Irony of hearing gate campers complain about being outnumbered is the icing on the cake.
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Ryuichi
PoliCratton Technologies
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Posted - 2008.06.11 19:42:00 -
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Great report, A++++, would read again. |
Garion Thorongmor
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.11 22:45:00 -
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One of the reoccurring themes I keep reading from fdn and friends on here is that bydi/scary camp gates where they blow up noobs with 10-15 ships against 1 ship, so they shouldn't complain when they get blobbed cuz they do it.
I would just like to say that gatecamping, and fleet engagements are completely different things, and you guys know that.
We appreciate, and of course prefer good fleet fights, but you know that it's not always possible to get a fleet fight, or even a small engagement at the drop of a hat. Sometimes if ya got nothing to do, a camp can be a fun way to pass the time until maybe a fleet shows up.
First and foremost, fdn, you guys do the SAME thing. Fdn does gate camps, where they blow up 1 ship with 10-15 or more ships just like we do.
In fact they are suppose to be NRDS anti-pirates however there have been a few occasions that we have seen where they have shot on a brand new alt completely unaffiliated with bydi/scary who was guaranteed to be nuetral to them. This was at one of their gate camps. I ask, how is this any different from when we camp?
I hear a lot of the fdn and their allies on here always complaining that bydi/scary will only come out to fight when we have the better odds (more ships).
The truth is, we enjoy fighting outnumbered, and have intentionally engaged in fights where our opponent had 2 to 3 times the number of ships as we had.
For just one example, here is a 12 man bydi/ruin gang (ruin has since merged into bydi), taking on a 28 man PURE alliance gang. As you all know PURE are good pvp'rs and by no means a pushover.
If you look at the bottom of each column where it says ships fielded and ships lost, you will notice that we decimated the entire 28 ship fleet without losing a single one of our 12 ships.
Engagement Link: http://bydi.griefwatch.net/?p=engagement&kill=3485
I was FC of this battle on my main, and my scout had called out their ship types to me from 2 jumps away. I made the decision to hold position and get ready to fight.
Now if bydi doesn't like to fight outnumbered as you say, we had at least a good minute to avoid this fight, but we like to fight if we think we've got a good chance so we stayed.
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Zulu Six
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Posted - 2008.06.11 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Zulu Six on 11/06/2008 22:49:20 So what you're saying is that this thread is now about gate camping and fighting while outnumbered, instead of about BYDI/SCARY self-destructing their cap ships to avoid having lossmails to post, amirite?
EDIT: Bumping this thread doesn't serve your PR image at all.
I am Havohej's alt. I would post with my main, but it's banned vOv |
Garion Thorongmor
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.11 23:09:00 -
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Maybe if you had bothered to actually read the entire thread you would realize that many of the replies made by others have mentioned the fact that we shouldn't complain about being blobbed because we do it on gates. Fact is, gate camps are usually going to be one sided.
Other replies have said we only like to fight when we have the advantage in numbers.
I know it is not the point of this thread, but my post was simply to rebut those comments.
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Space Chutney
Wildlands Heavy Technologies FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.11 23:29:00 -
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People who fight "outnumbered" in an engagement where more than half the enemies are shuttles, frigates and cruisers should be given badges? Do I bend-over to the mighty powa now or later?
Feel free to find the funny side to the OP BYDI, as Lord Kesh has. And in other news, gatecamps often kill people vastly outnumbered and get busted by people with bigger guns? Well **** me, they should call that PVP or something.
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Zulu Six
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.11 23:47:00 -
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Cz Ire
Unitas Nusquam Est FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.06.12 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Garion Thorongmor
In fact they are suppose to be NRDS anti-pirates however there have been a few occasions that we have seen where they have shot on a brand new alt completely unaffiliated with bydi/scary who was guaranteed to be nuetral to them. This was at one of their gate camps. I ask, how is this any different from when we camp?
2 day old noobalts in shuttles/noobships arnt neutral in 0.0, sorry. roll a more believable "neutral" next time you want to alt-spy on us.
missed this fight; but fun read. |
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