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Chi nwi
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Posted - 2008.06.10 21:34:00 -
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In a Minmatar system, I found a "waypost" on scan with a MS probe. I searched the forums and no hits, anyone seen it found it yet? |
Wares M'Teef
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:00:00 -
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Have found one myself, can't scan it down for toffee...
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Rodsy
Federation of Xenotech
Xenotech Celestial Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.10 22:04:00 -
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From patch notes: "Using Multispectral Probes will allow static dungeons, hidden or not, to show up as Wayposts and not Unknown. These can now be scanned down." |
Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2008.06.11 07:10:00 -
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"Wayposts" aparently is the name for the FW sites.
Corporation RP channel: "PlacidReborn" |
Hugo Maxum
No Angels Here
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:35:00 -
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So you have to be in a faction to actually scan them down?
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little sis
At Swords' Points
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:45:00 -
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Nope and any one may enter. If you have the right ships. |
El Codge
El Codge's Emporium of Exotic Delights
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Posted - 2008.06.11 16:02:00 -
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It wasn't Eram by any chance?
I was trying to scan down that swine for over an hour last night |
little sis
At Swords' Points
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Posted - 2008.06.11 16:27:00 -
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The easy way to find FW sites is to launch a scan probe at the combat bunker, or use your on-board scanner when you warp to it it will be a beacon on overview. If your pray is at one of these sites then the beacon will already be active.
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Dohl Khrensen
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.06.11 20:18:00 -
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Um, I don't think the 'Waypost' is exclusively for Faction Warfare because I've found them on Multispec scans in low-sec (non-contested space) and 0.0. Haven't tried to scan them down specifically, but I am interested to know what what the difference is between them and unknowns.
My initial thought is that Wayposts may be complexes and Unknowns may be combat exploration sites (possibly escalating). I did find a 5/10 drone complex in a system with a Waypost in it, but as an unknown signature was also on the multispec scan, I can't say for certain that this is the case. I'm thinking in this case the word 'static' in the patch notes may be a misnomer that actually refers to complexes that stay in one constellation but jump from system to system. Just a guess at this point though.
Any more info coming in from you intrepid explorers? |
Narfas Deteis
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Posted - 2008.06.11 20:42:00 -
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From patch notes:
"Using Multispectral Probes will allow static dungeons, hidden or not, to show up as Wayposts and not Unknown. These can now be scanned down."
Wayposts are:
1) static plexes (with beacons)
2) COSMOS plexes (hidden or not)
...NOT exploration plexes.
...and NOT these new EA sites. |
Taguchi Hiroko
Wreckless Abandon
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:17:00 -
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I still don't get it, how do you scan them down?
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Mass'a Whipcracka
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Posted - 2008.06.12 17:46:00 -
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Ive just spend a night scanning down a few systems in 0.0
i got all waypost hits and no "Unknown" hits from cosmic signature scans.
the system i scanned (5 sets of quest probes with very good coverage, and better changed coverage after 3 sets) yeilded no hits
there was a beacon in space in this system(cosmos mission area), and this site didnt used to give any hits on multispec scans before, and im leaning more towards believing that it was now showing up on multispec scan and thats why i didnt get a hit.
I have done alot of scanning, im fully away of the chance of not getting any hits being "unlcuky" and the issue with probe placement, thats why i changed it and put 5 + hours of scanning into one system. but i still find it odd to have not gotten any hits.
im still unclear as to what all shows up at "wayposts" does anyone else know exactly what does ? |
Narfas Deteis
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Taguchi Hiroko
I still don't get it, how do you scan them down?
Scan for what? For static plexes?
Before:
Unknown means: static or exploration plex, data center and so on.
Now:
Unknown means: exploration plex.
Waypost: static plex, data center and so on.
Now static and exploration plexes are separated in results on multi.
You do not need to scan for static plex. You can warp to it. As before.
I hope that's clear. |
Mass'a Whipcracka
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Narfas Deteis
Originally by: Taguchi Hiroko
I still don't get it, how do you scan them down?
Scan for what? For static plexes?
Before:
Unknown means: static or exploration plex, data center and so on.
Now:
Unknown means: exploration plex.
Waypost: static plex, data center and so on.
Now static and exploration plexes are separated in results on multi.
You do not need to scan for static plex. You can warp to it. As before.
I hope that's clear.
so the 4 systems that had "wayposts" in them out in 0.0 non NPC space would be what ? all that usually spawned there was exploration plexs and combat encounters
I didnt think FW stuff would be out in 0.0
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Narfas Deteis
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mass'a Whip*****a
so the 4 systems that had "wayposts" in them out in 0.0 non NPC space would be what ? all that usually spawned there was exploration plexs and combat encounters
I didnt think FW stuff would be out in 0.0
Static plexes, COSMOS and data centers this is not FW stuff, man.
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Taguchi Hiroko
Wreckless Abandon
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:53:00 -
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Looks like I ran into some static plex, or bug.
This happened in several 0.0 non-npc systems by now. Get a waypost, scan for hours and hours with various quest probes, and no result.
Either they are extremely hard to scan or they are bugged. I never saw these waypoints in these systems before patch. So they weren't here before.
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Narfas Deteis
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Posted - 2008.06.12 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Narfas Deteis on 12/06/2008 18:58:19
Originally by: Taguchi Hiroko
Looks like I ran into some static plex, or bug.
This happened in several 0.0 non-npc systems by now. Get a waypost, scan for hours and hours with various quest probes, and no result.
Either they are extremely hard to scan or they are bugged. I never saw these waypoints in these systems before patch. So they weren't here before.
Did you read patch notes or THIS thread?
From patch notes:
"Using Multispectral Probes will allow static dungeons, hidden or not, to show up as Wayposts and not Unknown. These can now be scanned down."
Waypost is NEW signature for OLD static plexes.
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Taguchi Hiroko
Wreckless Abandon
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:07:00 -
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yeah, and if they are old static plexes, how come I didn't see them while scanning before. |
Narfas Deteis
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Taguchi Hiroko
yeah, and if they are old static plexes, how come I didn't see them while scanning before.
I don't know, Taguchi Hiroko. Check your star map for DED Reports. |
Taguchi Hiroko
Wreckless Abandon
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:14:00 -
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well, thanks! |
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:17:00 -
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Yup, any complex which has a fixed position is now a Waypost. Previously at least some of these were showing up as "Unknown" which was confusing the hell out of people. If it's visible as a beacon it's unlikely that it's possible to probe it, and pointless to do so anyway. If you get a "Waypost", there's no beacons in the system and you can't scan it down, please defect it, clearly stating the system you found it in :) |
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Helldrek Demonstar
Wreckless Abandon
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.12 19:17:00 -
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The system where we found this waypost isnt marked by ded, but is in a gas cloud constellation with agents at gates. Several ppl have been scanning it for hours aldready, no result. |
Bline Dist
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale
Yup, any complex which has a fixed position is now a Waypost. Previously at least some of these were showing up as "Unknown" which was confusing the hell out of people. If it's visible as a beacon it's unlikely that it's possible to probe it, and pointless to do so anyway. If you get a "Waypost", there's no beacons in the system and you can't scan it down, please defect it, clearly stating the system you found it in :)
so sites like "angel base" or "radiance" in 0.0 space will show up as wayposts now ? are cosmic anoms the only sites that show up as unknown ?
do the static plexs and cosmos agent beacon locations both show up as wayposts too ?
if so, the static plexs and cosmos agent beacons should be taken off the list so they do not give us "waypost" hits when we are out scanning for real sites.
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:22:00 -
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No, the ONLY sites that should be Wayposts are those that are static, ie stay in the same spot and respawn the NPCs inside rather than being exploration sites and thus moving around. Angel Hub, Radiance and so on aren't in this group, it's just things like COSMOS static sites. |
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Narfas Deteis
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Bline Dist
so sites like "angel base" or "radiance" in 0.0 space will show up as wayposts now ? are cosmic anoms the only sites that show up as unknown ?
do the static plexs and cosmos agent beacon locations both show up as wayposts too ?
if so, the static plexs and cosmos agent beacons should be taken off the list so they do not give us "waypost" hits when we are out scanning for real sites.
1) no
2) no
3) yes, but not "too"
4) no
Read this thead again, please. Carefuly. |
Mass'a Whipcracka
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Mass''a Whip*****a on 12/06/2008 20:31:45
ill repeat what i said earlier, i found 4 systems in a cosmos constellation in 0.0 that had "waypost" hits
at least 2 of them were in systems with no static re-spawning plex, and no cosmos mission hub or beacons to warp to.
please know what your talking about before you post, dont just give idle guesses aka proof or STFU  |
Narfas Deteis
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Posted - 2008.06.12 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Mass'a Whip*****a
Edited by: Mass''a Whip*****a on 12/06/2008 20:31:45
ill repeat what i said earlier, i found 4 systems in a cosmos constellation in 0.0 that had "waypost" hits
at least 2 of them were in systems with no static re-spawning plex, and no cosmos mission hub or beacons to warp to.
please know what your talking about before you post, dont just give idle guesses aka proof or STFU
OK, anough. I choose 'STFU'.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.06.12 22:06:00 -
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Wayposts were implemented so people could tell the difference between a static plex with a beacon result and a genuine 'unknown' exploration plex.
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DeepBlue
Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.13 15:40:00 -
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Agents in space also show up as Wayposts, also the beacons before you enter a cosmos constellation. |
Juana Morlaine
Art of War
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:12:00 -
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Ok, so wayposts in 0.0 without being static, without beacon to warp to and without an agent are a bug.
Good to know, since I found at least one such system.
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