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LtCol Killgore
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:54:00 -
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Greetings all, I'm one of those kinda lucky mofo's with lots of free time at work, and no-one looking over his sholder.
Basically, I play eve sometimes at work, no pwnin graphics card, so usually just care bear stuff. BUT, I've just been told that internet activity will be monitored at my work from now on. Does anyone know what eve would show up as on a server log? Is it just an address made outta numbers, or would it actually say 'eve-online'??
If it's numbers I get away with it, if not i'm gonna have to invent a fake courier company called Eve to blag it to my boss's and hope CCP don't sue me :)
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LtCol Killgore
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:54:00 -
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Greetings all, I'm one of those kinda lucky mofo's with lots of free time at work, and no-one looking over his sholder.
Basically, I play eve sometimes at work, no pwnin graphics card, so usually just care bear stuff. BUT, I've just been told that internet activity will be monitored at my work from now on. Does anyone know what eve would show up as on a server log? Is it just an address made outta numbers, or would it actually say 'eve-online'??
If it's numbers I get away with it, if not i'm gonna have to invent a fake courier company called Eve to blag it to my boss's and hope CCP don't sue me :) |
Neth'Rae
Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:56:00 -
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rofl..
Request signatures at EVE-GFX |
Neth'Rae
Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:56:00 -
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rofl.. |
Agent Li
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:57:00 -
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In general, if you're at work, you should be working. Unless you don't want to work there anymore.
Most companies have some sort of detection software that monitors activity.
Keep in mind that just because you haven't been caught yet, doesn't mean they don't know you're fooling around on company time, using company bandwidth.
The network guys will know what's sapping the bandwidth, and which PC and which external IP is the culprit.
Most places won't do or say anything until it's time for a reduction in staff - then you'll be the first to go.
If the network people are halfway conscious, they'll know what you're doing. It isn't hard to see, and it isn't hard to figure out. |
Gwenvahar
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Posted - 2008.06.11 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: LtCol Killgore Greetings all, I'm one of those kinda lucky mofo's with lots of free time at work, and no-one looking over his sholder.
Basically, I play eve sometimes at work, no pwnin graphics card, so usually just care bear stuff. BUT, I've just been told that internet activity will be monitored at my work from now on. Does anyone know what eve would show up as on a server log? Is it just an address made outta numbers, or would it actually say 'eve-online'??
If it's numbers I get away with it, if not i'm gonna have to invent a fake courier company called Eve to blag it to my boss's and hope CCP don't sue me :)
Umm it won't matter by the log.. A good net watchdog will see how much traffic is coming through your system and investigate. Most serious net sniffers will see what 'Kind' of packets you are receiving, and data packets from MMO's are usually unique in some way.. UDP packets I think used to be the common thing from MMO's but I haven't dealt with such issues in a long long time so I cant say for sure. I can say, don't play MMO's at work unless you have permission, its to easy to loose a job these days and real hard to find new ones. |
Zulu Six
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Neth'Rae rofl..
I am Havohej's alt. I would post with my main, but it's banned vOv |
Valan
The Fated Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:09:00 -
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Usually every week we get a top ten user report or site report and we check those out. If you don't appear in there you'll not get caught unless they check you specifically.
If I see an IP as opposed to a URL I'll check the owner of the IP and then ban from there. Usually I'll request our external filter provider to recat a site if it's not correct and then it'll be automatically banned using our standard policy. I love that because it'll be suddenly banned in all companies that use that filter. For instance eve-online is categorised by Smartfilter as Games. We don't ban the games category as standard hence I'm here typing.
However, we only allow port 80 out as standard anyway to get EVE to work here I would have to request port 26000 (or whatever it is) to be opened.
They'll be keen first off and then slack off.
We don't sack people for it becuase most of them are traders earning millions for the company if it's a peon their feet won't touch the floor and rightly so. If you have time to play games you're not required :)
/start sig I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on. /end sig |
Micheal Dietrich
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:18:00 -
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I dont know about some people. I like eve, but I like my job even more.
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Jakke Logan
F Off And Die
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:20:00 -
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I get away with it because I am the IT manager and in charge of monitoring the network :)
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Valan Usually every week we get a top ten user report or site report and we check those out. If you don't appear in there you'll not get caught unless they check you specifically.
If I see an IP as opposed to a URL I'll check the owner of the IP and then ban from there. Usually I'll request our external filter provider to recat a site if it's not correct and then it'll be automatically banned using our standard policy. I love that because it'll be suddenly banned in all companies that use that filter. For instance eve-online is categorised by Smartfilter as Games. We don't ban the games category as standard hence I'm here typing.
However, we only allow port 80 out as standard anyway to get EVE to work here I would have to request port 26000 (or whatever it is) to be opened.
They'll be keen first off and then slack off.
We don't sack people for it becuase most of them are traders earning millions for the company if it's a peon their feet won't touch the floor and rightly so. If you have time to play games you're not required :)
What is the latin term for the peon? As opposed to the homo sapiens sapiens that I must think is referred to as 'people'.
These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade! |
Echo Vector
The Wild Bunch
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:23:00 -
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I'm the network engineer at my joint, and trust me when I tell you......any network engineer worth a sideways glance will know exactly what machine is going where "out there" at any given point in time..........and if they have gear like I have, can produce a paper trail going back in time ( in my case 365 days ) of every IP address you've visited, every filename you've seen, etc. et al, ad nauseum.
All that being said, *I* play EvE at work..........it's MY network.......hahahahahaha!
It's good to be the king..............
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Liquid Truth
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:24:00 -
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I work in our IT department and I know we don't have any monitoring software running, so I'm ok to play Eve whilst at work |
RaTTuS
BIG
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:29:00 -
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/me is IT here, it shows up as port 26000 to ip 87.237.38.200, but low bandwidth,
so if your OK to play at lunch you'll be fine - otherwise it is a no-no
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 11/06/2008 13:32:34 Well to get away with it at work make sure she doesn't moan or make too many noises during. |
Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:36:00 -
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There is no need for them to start searching for IPs and DNS resolutions of these IPs. Layer 4 gives enough information on what you are doing there.
Your port number that is.
The alternative port that is provided by CCP is more shameful to use. |
Anaalys Fluuterby
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:39:00 -
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If it is within your job description use a SSH tunnel. It will hide from most monitors as legitimate. You can even run the SSH on like port 21 and claim you were updating a client's website for them...
Otherwise you can use like Ultravnc to control a remote computer. You only get about 2 fps but its fine for things like changing skills, working the market or mining. Less bandwidth used, less likely to be seen. Again you can set the remote machine to run the VNC server on something like port 80 and it will slip through most detections. Your work doesn't seem that spastic about it so you can probably get away with either of these.
I control our firewalls, but only bypass to alter skills (I'm at work, I should be working). |
Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:41:00 -
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What we need here is the ability to change skills via the EVE website. All problems would go away. |
Jakke Logan
F Off And Die
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist What we need here is the ability to change skills via the EVE website. All problems would go away.
Yep, I wouldn't need to log into the client at work if I could do that.
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jakke Logan I get away with it because I am the IT manager and in charge of monitoring the network :)
same here :P
quite abit of free time also for me at work... so i play eve sometimes at work also :P |
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CCP SessionChange
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:47:00 -
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I play eve from work too |
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 11/06/2008 13:49:04
Originally by: CCP SessionChange I play eve from work too
You don't say?
So tell us SessionChange, how come we lack the ability to change skills via the website? It can be restricted to one time per hour to avoid flooding and reserved for paying customers only.
How about it? |
Estel Arador
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Posted - 2008.06.11 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist how come we lack the ability to change skills via the website?
They want you to play the game, not farm characters using your browser. |
Slanty McGarglefist
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist how come we lack the ability to change skills via the website?
They want you to play the game, not farm characters using your browser.
Eh I'll play the game when I get home from work. I want to change skills now! |
Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:10:00 -
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I work at a small company now, and have been at large ones before where I played Eve. Yes, being in IT helped: I'd watch my usage on the 'top ten' lists, etc and purge the data.
I'd actually suggest another route: Get yourself an AirCard and use it to connect to Eve. That way all the traffic goes out thru the card, and IT don't even know it exists.
And Yes, You can and probably should be fired for playing at work. |
MrTripps
Blueprint Haus Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:11:00 -
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Back when I first started playing I tried playing a bit during slow times at work. I figured I could at least move my shiny new thorax from one system to another (this was before WTZ). I had just gotten the ability to use MWD, so I was sure it was safe. As soon as I get to the low sec part of the trip someone came into my office and wanted to talk. At the same time gate campers started blasting away my thorax. I had to conceal my horror and talk about printers as the ship went into structure and I found myself in a pod. Doh! |
Plumpy McPudding
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Plumpy McPudding on 11/06/2008 14:12:49
Originally by: MrTripps Back when I first started playing I tried playing a bit during slow times at work. I figured I could at least move my shiny new thorax from one system to another (this was before WTZ). I had just gotten the ability to use MWD, so I was sure it was safe. As soon as I get to the low sec part of the trip someone came into my office and wanted to talk. At the same time gate campers started blasting away my thorax. I had to conceal my horror and talk about printers as the ship went into structure and I found myself in a pod. Doh!
Moral of the story; don't play EVE drunk. |
Inertial
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:14:00 -
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Like so many others have said, it helps being the IT manager. If you are not, try with a bribe. |
Reacz
Empirius Enigmus Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:18:00 -
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Basically, if you're in IT you'll get away with this.
Always funny to tell off the Marketing/Accounts/Production people for using too much bandwidth for BBC news while your playing EVE or watching YouTube.
Not that I've ever done anything like that myself...
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2008.06.11 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Inertial Like so many others have said, it helps being the IT manager. If you are not, try with a bribe.
This actually. IT managers are eminently corruptible so find out where yours drinks and get talking. But if you discover he's the one who ganked you last week don't let it show. ---- Infiniband can do more than just prevent lag |
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