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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2008.06.14 22:21:00 -
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Is there any way to prevent a director or CEO from looking in my hanger, and what's the purpose of this? Talk about a major drawback of a reason for joining a corporation.
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Dosgar
Rude Boys Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.14 22:30:00 -
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To see if people are stealing things?
Anything you don't want visible, contract to an alt and have them place it in their hangar. If they're not in the corp, it can't be seen in their hangar. However, people can check your contracts to check what you're contracting to people (though I think 'private' contracts prevent this).
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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2008.06.14 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: Lucious Desire on 14/06/2008 23:00:11 To see if your stealing??? Can they pull stuff out of my hanger then?
Also, CCP should put this in big bold red when people sign up for a corp.
Like I said earlier, I definitely don't want to be part of a corp now.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.06.14 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 14/06/2008 23:02:25
The corresponding role is "security officer", everybody having it can look around in everybody else's hangar. You can do this only at stations your corp has an office in. And you can only LOOK at contents, or add something, but you can not take anything away from it.
Whatever you want "invisible", just shove it in a can. Nobody but you can view its contents while it's in your hangar, and only you can move it away from your hangar to the corp hangar.
The 1,000,000 m^3 station cans are ideal for this, since you could place just about anything inside. And they're nice for organizing stuff, since there's a hard limit of 1000 item instances in a hangar, so if you have more, you will NEED cans.
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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2008.06.14 23:02:00 -
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Akita, OMG thank you for answering this question. What a major drawback to joining a corporation, but as long as there's a method to prevent people from looking at what I have...
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.06.14 23:04:00 -
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I still have trouble understanding what the problem is... what if your CEO, directors and security officers see what you have in your hangar ? Not like you'd need to hide something from them in there. And if you wanted to, you could, so, even less of a problem.
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Serenity Steele
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Posted - 2008.06.14 23:08:00 -
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You probably want to be a little practical here - if they don't have any suspicions, they're not going to look.
Failing that, your other options are: - Use an Audit/Secure container with a password and put your stuff in there. If they don't have the password, they can't look. - (or) Store your stuff in a station that doesn't have a corporation office, then they can't see into your hangar.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.15 12:31:00 -
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and the drawback of that is?
I find it to be more of an advantage as I can open up someones hanger and just drop something into it rather than use a contract, or trade.
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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2008.06.15 12:32:00 -
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One problem I have with my CEO's looking into my hanger, is that I trade for income. I don't want them to know what I'm trading. There is no record of them going through my stuff. It's the same as if you Mom or Wife or Girlfriend started going through you room and things. Why shouldn't they be allowed to root through your stuff? It isn't like you've got something to hide is it?
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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2008.06.15 12:35:00 -
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and chainsaw, I don't have a problem with my CEO dropping things in my hanger, but if I have zero rights in my corporation, no rights at all, I don' think the CEO's AND Directors should have rights to my hanger.
Like I said in my original post. To some people this is a huge drawback to joining a corporation.
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2008.06.15 13:04:00 -
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When I'm not in my own corporation, I usually base myself out of a station where the corp I'm in has no office. That's only useful to prevent people from looking in your hangar, it's also quite handy when you're in a war and the corps HQ/offices get camped or watched.
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Athar Mu
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.15 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lucious Desire It isn't like you've got something to hide, is it?
And on the other hand, if you don't want them to see then you must have something to hide? You are worrying over nothing, they can't take anything from your hanger and as long as you are not stealing from corp then it won't make a difference whether they can see what you have. And to be perfectly honest I have never heard of a director taking advantage of this (how they could I really don't know!?)
Like everyone said there are ways round this, the best one is anything you really don't want your directors to be able to see (still not sure what your worried about) store in another station in the system that your corp doesn't have an office it and you are set.
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MarleWH
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Posted - 2008.06.15 23:02:00 -
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If this is your attitude, I don't know why anyone would want you in their corp at all.
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2008.06.15 23:19:00 -
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They can't take anything, they can only look. And it only applies to stations where you have a corporate office.
Furthermore, they can't look into containers. Use containers. ------------------------------------------------
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kingme
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Posted - 2008.06.16 10:00:00 -
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Most corps have over 20 members and the directors are: a. Too busy or b. Not sad enough to look into members hangers. Your causing negative attention on yourself bother by even worrying about it. Stop complaining already.
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Matalino
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.16 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lucious Desire One problem I have with my CEO's looking into my hanger, is that I trade for income. I don't want them to know what I'm trading.
Are you trading at the same station where your corp has an office?
If they don't have an office there, then they don't have access to view the contents of your hanger.
Besides, you have already trusted these people with your life. If they wanted to screw you over, they wouldn't start out bidding you, they would wait for you to undock then rob you completely.
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Bleeshtar
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Posted - 2008.06.16 15:57:00 -
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Me thinks thou protests to much!
Something to hide?
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.16 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lucious Desire Is there any way to prevent a director or CEO from looking in my hanger, and what's the purpose of this? Talk about a major drawback of a reason for joining a corporation.
Even given that there have been very legitimate and informative replies to this thread, I feel as a philosopher that inevitable desire to explore the ethical dilemma you are arguing.
So I had a whole scenario laid out, but I decided to forgo all of that for two simple questions:
- Question 1 - Exactly how would a CEO exploit you through his access to view the contents of your private hangar in corporate offices?
- Question 2 - If you cannot trust the CEO to only view your private hangar when given permission to do so, why should you be granted access to corporate hangars and resources?
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Jojo Redana
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Posted - 2008.06.17 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Mendolus
- Question 1 - Exactly how would a CEO exploit you through his access to view the contents of your private hangar in corporate offices?
- Question 2 - If you cannot trust the CEO to only view your private hangar when given permission to do so, why should you be granted access to corporate hangars and resources?
Same questions. What CEO or directors are hiding from me, i can't view their hangar? It's same thing no matter how you look into it. There's plenty of situations where corp might be trying to abuse a newbie players or corp is playing a scam agaist players.
Corp is protected but single player is not.
To the second question. CEO/directors can grant access to corp hangar. A player can't control who's watching his/her hangar. Think about some 100bil worth of stuff in your hangar and your "not so trusted" director is wathing your stuffs and drooling. There's several ways to exploit that info.
Yes i do trust my CEO but the OP's question is valid. -- I'm lost in space |
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.17 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Mendolus on 17/06/2008 13:23:22
Originally by: Jojo Redana
Same questions. What CEO or directors are hiding from me, i can't view their hangar? It's same thing no matter how you look into it. There's plenty of situations where corp might be trying to abuse a newbie players or corp is playing a scam agaist players.
Corp is protected but single player is not.
To the second question. CEO/directors can grant access to corp hangar. A player can't control who's watching his/her hangar. Think about some 100bil worth of stuff in your hangar and your "not so trusted" director is wathing your stuffs and drooling. There's several ways to exploit that info.
Yes i do trust my CEO but the OP's question is valid.
And yet still, if the member cannot trust the CEO, little reason exists for the CEO to trust the member. Moot point. You see this right? As a member of a corporation, you sign on to participate in and have responsibilities within a public sphere. In doing so, you wave certain rights, such as the rights to have a totally opaque private hangar within a corps office. Buy a secure can, or an audit log station container, they cost all of 50-150k. Who keeps 100bil worth of junk just laying around on the top level of a private hangar in a corps office anyways knowing that the CEO would be able to view them if he were sneaky? Buy some security, it's really not that hard. It's no different than the CEO or ranked officers in corps placing audit log containers in public corps hangars to protect valuable resources from individual members that have access to that hangar, but should not necessarily have access to all the goods contained therein.
It's quite simple really. All this whining about a game mechanic that can be resolved with some spare change and a little extra work. CEOs do it all the time, why should the members not? Protect your investments, when given the ability to do so. It's no one else's fault but your own if you put 100bil worth of materials at the top level of your hangar in a corps office and are too lazy to blow 150k to buy an audit log container to store it in and your CEO actually tries to exploit you for it. The same way it's the CEO's fault if he puts 100bil of resources in a public hangar without putting them in an audit log container and a member exploits the knowledge such as setting up a mercenary hit when the materials are hauled. Works both ways.
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2008.06.17 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mendolus It's no different than the CEO or ranked officers in corps placing audit log containers in public corps hangars to protect valuable resources from individual members that have access to that hangar, but should not necessarily have access to all the goods contained therein
Note that this does not work. At all. CEOs would be fools to try this.
Individual players have much better protection than corporations.
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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2008.06.17 19:05:00 -
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One of the first lesson's in Eve to learn is, don't trust anyone with things that are important to you. "Friends" have a way of back stabbing you along with corpmates.
I have zero rights to look into my corp's hanger as I previously stated.
Several good posts to this topic have been made. The rest all assume I'm up to no good because I don't want someone to root through my stuff. All those people that have no cares about people looking at their stuff are the first ones to complain that "big brother" is listening in on their phone conversations. A question to you... Wouldn't you mind if your boss started going through your desk at work? It isn't like they're going to take something, is it? If "a friend" comes over to your house and starts going through your stuff, are you cool with that? Geewiz, it's not like he's going to take something, is it?
I have started using the can method. It's a pain in the neck, but whatever.
By the way, what kicked this all off was a security officer was drunk and going through everyone's stuff laughing about it on TS. It kind-of made me mad. Others didn't really care. I'm looking for a different corp.
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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2008.06.17 19:11:00 -
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Also, to all those that have asked, Yes, I do have things to hide. ALL MY STUFF. I don't want anyone to see any of it except me.
As I stated in the original post, HUGE DRAWBACK TO CORP LIFE!!! and nowhere, at least that I can find, does it tell you this anywhere in the player guide.
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Bleeshtar
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Posted - 2008.06.17 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lucious Desire first ones to complain that "big brother" is listening in on their phone conversations.
Not really besides if they want to listen to me ask my wife whats for dinner who gives a ****.
Originally by: Lucious Desire A question to you... Wouldn't you mind if your boss started going through your desk at work?
Again... Help yourself the scissors are in the bottom drawer.
Originally by: Lucious Desire By the way, what kicked this all off was a security officer was drunk and going through everyone's stuff laughing about it on TS. It kind-of made me mad. Others didn't really care. I'm looking for a different corp.
Now thats a completly different matter. Why dident you just say that in the first place.
I dont mind my Boss / Coworkers going through my desk but if they pulled out some pictures of my wife and started saying what an ugly pig she was that would be a different story.
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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2008.06.17 20:15:00 -
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Edited by: Lucious Desire on 17/06/2008 20:16:19 Bleeshtar, I think you're not telling the whole truth here. It's truly hard for me to believe you wouldn't find offense in people looking through your desk, listening to your phone calls, or rummaging through your stuff... Even if they didn't take anything. You seem to be full of bravado in this post, but I'd bet 50 isk, if you went into work tomorrow and your boss said that your not suppose to have that bottle of aspirin in your third drawer down in your desk and why do you have so many plastic bags in your bottom drawer, first thing you'd be thinking is "How the heck does he know I have aspirin and bags in my desk? That jerkie's been going through my stuff!"
**edit for clarity
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Bleeshtar
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Posted - 2008.06.17 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Bleeshtar on 17/06/2008 20:24:49 Not worth really debating.
Why? because first of all again I have nothing to hide and secondly as said before my boss has a modicum of respect and wouldent do such a thing.
Which evidently is more than we can say for your security officer.
You have misrepresented the pretense of this thread. If you had made the point that the corp mate was spewing your crap on the street for all to see from the onset it would have been different.
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.17 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Mendolus on 17/06/2008 20:45:08
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Originally by: Mendolus It's no different than the CEO or ranked officers in corps placing audit log containers in public corps hangars to protect valuable resources from individual members that have access to that hangar, but should not necessarily have access to all the goods contained therein
Note that this does not work. At all. CEOs would be fools to try this.
Individual players have much better protection than corporations.
I understand individual players do indeed have better protection, but what do you mean it doesn't work at all?
An audit log station container has a volume of like 1,000,000,000m3. I was under the impression that as long as you don't give members take or container access to various hangars but do give them view access, that you can still hide certain contents from them in the hangar the same way an individual member would hide private hangar contents at a corps office from a CEO?
{...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness} |
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.17 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Mendolus on 17/06/2008 20:51:44
Originally by: Lucious Desire Edited by: Lucious Desire on 17/06/2008 20:16:19 Bleeshtar, I think you're not telling the whole truth here. It's truly hard for me to believe you wouldn't find offense in people looking through your desk, listening to your phone calls, or rummaging through your stuff... Even if they didn't take anything. You seem to be full of bravado in this post, but I'd bet 50 isk, if you went into work tomorrow and your boss said that your not suppose to have that bottle of aspirin in your third drawer down in your desk and why do you have so many plastic bags in your bottom drawer, first thing you'd be thinking is "How the heck does he know I have aspirin and bags in my desk? That jerkie's been going through my stuff!"
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You do realize of course that your employer is legally liable for any contents you bring to work and they have every right to view, monitor, restrict, confiscate, or ban any materials you possess while in the work environment? So long as the materials are not illegal or against the NDAs and various legal stipulations you signed when you agreed to work for that employer, and you are not facing criminal or civil liabilities, you will be asked to pick the materials up on your way out of the work, and to not bring them back into the building again.
Do you not understand these basic business fundamentals?
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Letouk Mernel
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Posted - 2008.06.17 20:54:00 -
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So, why did you join this corp again? Seems like a crappy corp. And, I don't know what the ISK value of the stuff you're trading is, but if you have stuff to hide, don't join a corp.
As far as analogies go, it's less like the boss going through your work desk, and more like RL companies forcing you to reveal your address, SSN, driver license number, and your medical history, if you want to work there.
But, anyway, it doesn't matter. Most corporations in EVE are operated at a loss (if that's the right phrase), once you join the corp, you're making less personal wealth than you could have solo. You donate your time or some of your cash, and there are taxes, and for no returns most of the time. The good corps provide stuff that you can't get solo: access to lowsec or 0.0, PVP buddies and targets, or if it's just friends that they provide, then it's good quality people.
Your current corp sounds like crap, and your chosen profession (trading) is best done as a solo activity. So, don't know why you joined.
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2008.06.17 21:29:00 -
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Lucious, just keep all your stuff at a different station from the one your corporation's office is in. For example, keep all your stuff at the Rens Brutor Tribe Treasury. Your corp will probably never be able to afford an office there, even if there were any available.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2008.06.18 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Letouk Mernel As far as analogies go, it's less like the boss going through your work desk, and more like RL companies forcing you to reveal your address, SSN, driver license number, and your medical history, if you want to work there.
Uh no... it's more like the company enforcing a policy of not covering up the windows in your car when you park in the car park under the building.
You can park your car elsewhere if you wish.
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.18 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
Originally by: Mendolus I was under the impression that as long as you don't give members take or container access to various hangars but do give them view access, that you can still hide certain contents from them in the hangar the same way an individual member would hide private hangar contents at a corps office from a CEO?
Yes that's true. I thought you were making a common mistake: Many CEOs think that they can give container access to a hangar, but not take access, and that their containers will be secured by their password policy. That's impossible though, because without take access to the hangar, users can't open containers even if they have the password. Thus there's no real use for passwords on containers. You have to give a user take access to the hangar (which allows him to steal the whole container with or without password) in order for him to access the containers at all. Thus, one should never password-protect a container.
Ah interesting point! So yea, I have been passwording them and etc. but I only open up two hangars to "take" access and all the containers with PWs on them are station containers so at least they can't be removed from the station itself. Other than being malicious, there's no real advantage to "stealing" a passworded station container right? I mean so long as the password is sufficiently complicated enough, it's not likely they'll ever be able to ***** it open, right? I was under the impression that hacking skills/whatnot applied to everything BUT secure player containers.
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.18 04:28:00 -
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Mendolus-
They can be repackaged and the stuff will fall out.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Jojo Redana
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Posted - 2008.06.18 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mendolus
And yet still, if the member cannot trust the CEO, little reason exists for the CEO to trust the member. Moot point. You see this right? As a member of a corporation, you sign on to participate in and have responsibilities within a public sphere. In doing so, you wave certain rights, such as the rights to have a totally opaque private hangar within a corps office. Buy a secure can, or an audit log station container, they cost all of 50-150k.
Players can hide stuffs in the containers so CEO can't view their stuffs. Why CEO's should have rights to view those hangars in the first place if the player can hide their stuffs anyway?
It's like CEO has right to see the stuff i wanted to show him/her? If i have something to hide then i'm hiding it.
Are the CEO's enjoying to view players hangars and see all the crap in there? All the valuable stuffs is hidden anyway.
Quote: Who keeps 100bil worth of junk just laying around on the top level of a private hangar in a corps office anyways knowing that the CEO would be able to view them if he were sneaky?
I think most of the newbie players don't know about CEO's viewing rights. I know newbies don't have 100bil worth of stuffs in their hangar but that's not the point. They could have 10 veldspar in their hangar and they don't want CEO to know about that.
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It's quite simple really. All this whining about a game mechanic that can be resolved with some spare change and a little extra work.
Game mechanic that serves nobody? A player can hide the stuffs if they want. CEO can't use his/her right to view players stuffs if the player is smart enough to hide it. -- I'm lost in space |
F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.18 08:05:00 -
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It has two useful functions, one not so much now.
1) It lets CEOs, or anyone with the role, look for corp items. This was especially useful after corp thefts, before the larger containers were added. But it also lets them look for missing items. If players aren't online, or haven't played in a while, the CEO could look through hangars to find that missing stack of ore from the last mining op, or the like.
2) It lets those with the role deposit items in the hangar. This is especially useful for corp manufacturers. You ordered a ship or mod from the corp's producers? BAM they deposit it in your hangar when it's ready and you don't have to bother with Contracts or the corp hangar. I could go on with this, but the usefulness should be fairly evident.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.18 08:06:00 -
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I'll just add that after 5 years of the game being live, and 4 of playing retail, this is the first time that I know of that anyone has complained about viewing rights. I'd say that demonstrates how unimportant of an issue it is.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Stela'Artois
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.18 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog I'll just add that after 5 years of the game being live, and 4 of playing retail, this is the first time that I know of that anyone has complained about viewing rights. I'd say that demonstrates how unimportant of an issue it is.
This to be honest.
So what...a corp leader can look into your hangar. They see you have 5million units of rubber toys. "Oh Wowzer, I can sell those at a 10million isk profit! I will buy and sell those too!" and off the corp leaders go to screw you over. You log in, and "Ohnoes! I have been underbid! And...wait...by my own boss!" So...you leave the corp...and it does the corp leadership no good.
Trust me...you are generally more important to a corp for your taxes/combat ability than your ability to give market comentary to your CEO.
He is, after all, your CEO.
I think it is awesome that you single handedly searched through all of EvE to find the one thing no one has complained about...and then lead a two page forum whine about it. Kudos to you for that.
In other news...isnt it annoying that CEO's can set a tax rate for a corp? I mean come on, why cant I set the tax that >I< want to pay.
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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2008.06.18 14:35:00 -
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Stela'Artois
Maybe nobody has complained because nobody really thought about it. To be honest, I didn't really think about it until I was informed by my drunk security officer that I had too many exotic dancers in my hanger(about 600).
If you look at my original post, I've ask if there is a method for preventing this. I've asked for helpful suggestions and have received many. I have also received a lot of flames for this also. Personally, I think it's kind-of funny. Everybody get all up in arms that I don't want people to see my stuff.
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.18 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog Mendolus-
They can be repackaged and the stuff will fall out.
That's gross, but very good to know. EEP!
{...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness} |
Stela'Artois
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.18 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lucious Desire Stela'Artois
Maybe nobody has complained because nobody really thought about it. To be honest, I didn't really think about it until I was informed by my drunk security officer that I had too many exotic dancers in my hanger(about 600).
If you look at my original post, I've ask if there is a method for preventing this. I've asked for helpful suggestions and have received many. I have also received a lot of flames for this also. Personally, I think it's kind-of funny. Everybody get all up in arms that I don't want people to see my stuff.
Nobody complained because no one cares. Well, apparently >you< care...that about covers it.
Since >you< care about it...put stuff in a can. End of story.
By the way...600 dancers huh...bit o'the optimist?
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.18 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lucious Desire Stela'Artois
Maybe nobody has complained because nobody really thought about it. To be honest, I didn't really think about it until I was informed by my drunk security officer that I had too many exotic dancers in my hanger(about 600).
If you look at my original post, I've ask if there is a method for preventing this. I've asked for helpful suggestions and have received many. I have also received a lot of flames for this also. Personally, I think it's kind-of funny. Everybody get all up in arms that I don't want people to see my stuff.
Though I am sure it can be easily misconstrued, I would like to think I'm not rather flaming, but being a little more critical than I normally would be.
I guess the thing that bothers me is, if something as insignificant and easily resolved as this really gets under your skin, how do you go about solving matters of any real importance?
Seems like a ton of wasted energy, just to be lazy and not buy a 50k station container and toss what you consider sensitive materials into it. It's like all of ten mouse clicks.
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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2008.06.18 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mendolus
Originally by: Lucious Desire Stela'Artois
I guess the thing that bothers me is, if something as insignificant and easily resolved as this really gets under your skin, how do you go about solving matters of any real importance?
Seems like a ton of wasted energy, just to be lazy and not buy a 50k station container and toss what you consider sensitive materials into it. It's like all of ten mouse clicks.
Mendolus,
You are definitely entitled to your opinion on what's important to some and not to others, but that's all it is... your opinion. Like I've stated several times now, I was asking for a method to prevent this from happening. I've received my answers and I thank those that have offered them. I'm sorry you feel people shouldn't ask questions you don't think are necessary or have an opinion that's outside of yours.
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.18 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lucious Desire
Originally by: Mendolus
Originally by: Lucious Desire Stela'Artois
I guess the thing that bothers me is, if something as insignificant and easily resolved as this really gets under your skin, how do you go about solving matters of any real importance?
Seems like a ton of wasted energy, just to be lazy and not buy a 50k station container and toss what you consider sensitive materials into it. It's like all of ten mouse clicks.
Mendolus,
You are definitely entitled to your opinion on what's important to some and not to others, but that's all it is... your opinion. Like I've stated several times now, I was asking for a method to prevent this from happening. I've received my answers and I thank those that have offered them. I'm sorry you feel people shouldn't ask questions you don't think are necessary or have an opinion that's outside of yours.
Nice.
Anyways, I think after five years, the chances that CCP will do anything about this are slim to none, and slim just packed his bags.
Enjoy!
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2008.06.18 18:41:00 -
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Tell us the truth Lucious, did your corp catch you pleasuring yourself to the thought of virtual exotic dancers? Maybe you had your "push to talk" button accidentally held down? That's the only scenario I can imagine that would make you so upset at the fact that the corp can look into your hangar.
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Lucious Desire
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Posted - 2008.06.19 15:42:00 -
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OMG Joe, how did you guess so correctly? Were you peering in my window while I was "doing it"? Peeping Tom Joe Starbreaker. Keep your shades drawn
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Amanda Wilkins
Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2008.06.21 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: Lucious Desire Is there any way to prevent a director or CEO from looking in my hanger, and what's the purpose of this? Talk about a major drawback of a reason for joining a corporation.
First off: No, there is no way to prevent it.
Second: I really love the feature. Not just for myself, but for all members of my corp. The same access level also gives you the possibility to drop items directly into a members hangar instead of having to have the member online and handing the stuff over in the same station.
Third: As a CEO of a corporation of 40+ members, I know I certainly don't have time to admire all my members ships And the feature ONLY exists in stations where your corp has an office - so keep your secret stuff in another station.
Fourth: No-one but you can open your cans. So if you are still feeling paranoid, pack all the zeeekrit stuff in cans. Of course that mean you don't get to see what's in your hangar, unless you open or repackage the can, but being paranoid has its price.
Mind if I ask why you are worried about it? Do you have stuff that is so secret?
Amanda
Amanda Wilkins CEO of Dromedary, Goat, Albatross and Fish Protector of the Bunnies of Stain
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Demarcus
Killjoy.
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Posted - 2008.06.21 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lucious Desire Also, to all those that have asked, Yes, I do have things to hide. ALL MY STUFF. I don't want anyone to see any of it except me.
As I stated in the original post, HUGE DRAWBACK TO CORP LIFE!!! and nowhere, at least that I can find, does it tell you this anywhere in the player guide.
Because it doesn't matter AT ALL unless you stole from your corp. Trust me, NO ONE in your corp gives two sh*ts what you trade. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
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Demarcus
Killjoy.
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Posted - 2008.06.21 12:21:00 -
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I was a ceo for about three years and used that feature a whole two times to check out reports of missing items. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
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