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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co.
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Posted - 2008.06.17 15:36:00 -
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Edited by: Thorek Ironbrow on 17/06/2008 15:36:39
Originally by: Trojanman190 Congrats and all (tho you caldari are scum)
Alt much? Post on your main.
Congratulations to the fleet, nice to know Caldari are kicking butt out in space. But anyway, back to the point... I'm awesome :D |

Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co.
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Posted - 2008.06.17 15:56:00 -
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On the topic of comparing getting loads of kills to capturing systems, I think both sides are messed up.
Gallente should be capturing systems to put Caldari out of buisness. Caldari should be attacking Gallente head on to stop them doing that.
Blowing up Caldarians won't do anything, but stopping them affording their ships will. But anyway, back to the point... I'm awesome :D |

Zarlis
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.06.17 15:58:00 -
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I have just had a look through the dev blogs and I can't find anything on what a system capture means. Can someone post me a link or quote pls. |

Xiker
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Posted - 2008.06.17 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Xiker on 17/06/2008 16:31:41 Edited by: Xiker on 17/06/2008 16:31:20 i have to say... i love how the people with the better pvp ships by default are running around claiming how they are getting more pvp kills while the caldari are concentrating on pve.
you might too if your ships were as non pvp based as ours.
Congrats on the win everyone. you have done the homeworld proud!
Edit for dodgy spelling!
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
aurorae pacificas
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Posted - 2008.06.17 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Psycho Sexy whoah wait, so one side with massive, massive numbers is taking systems and the other side is screaming "k/d ratio!!! k/d ratio!!! we just want gf's!"
I've seen this somewhere before....
the main difference here is that 0.0 systems have stations that have restricted docking, moon coverage with pos and other isk generators such as ratting space etc. FW systems dont have that (THANKFULLY!!!) so therefore comparisons with 0.0 and FW sov mechanics and the relationship that the FW pilots have with these systems are quite simply erroneous.
Black Rise is a battlefield, not a home and therefore apart from the pangs of having to endure forum boasting from the Calds or perhaps from an RP perspective, there is little to no consequence of the loss of this system for your average Gallente player.
The gallente that are thinking that they can "win" this through merely killing t1 gear are wrong too. In fact I think the idea of "winning" this at all is flawed. Im not sure that that is even a possibility, The loss of BR or even Placid would not mean the end of the Federation, unless ccp would be willing to allow other regions to suddenly "loose security" status and become low sec. If this was true, im sure you would see alot more gallente grinding plexes- always with the end goal of destroying Jita as their main objective.
Alas, this probably wont happen.
Also what is with all these references to gallente flying pimped nano fits? I dont think ive seen more than a couple of pilots flying nanohacs around. In fact, the vast majority of t2 that ive seen being flow is by Caldari pilots! Lets face it, the stereotypes being thrown around are pretty inaccurate. There are alot of low end AND high end pilots on both sides and for me, thats great. It means FW is working and people are enjoying themselves.
The taking of one system or the destruction of a large blob is a win for both sides. Anything that keeps people interested and having fun is win. Im enjoying myself, and ill certainly enjoy taking caldari systems as well :)
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Mangala Solaris
Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2008.06.17 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Mangala Solaris on 17/06/2008 16:51:48 Its only "pve" as the Gallente are too busy following the blob around or jaming tama full of wrecks to actually find the capping fleets and give them a seeing too.
It would be pvp then. -------
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Uzume Ame
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.17 16:59:00 -
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What I would like to see is a killboard with all these mighty kills. If caldari lose 10 t1 frigates but gallente loses a full t2 pvp fitted BS who is losing?
Kills must be compared isk wise, not by raw numbers.
Teh failure of a signature. |

Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.06.17 17:04:00 -
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A quick look at the charts per player show that the only mighty thing about the caldari militia is it's number advantage. ------------------------------------------
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Nachshon
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.17 17:07:00 -
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A two-to-one numeric advantage isn't anything to laugh at. Particularly in a disorganized militia, it can come down to who has more gangs in the field. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
The True Meaning of Freedom
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Fox'Ray
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.17 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Fox''Ray on 17/06/2008 17:11:47
Originally by: Mangala Solaris Edited by: Mangala Solaris on 17/06/2008 16:51:48 Its only "pve" as the Gallente are too busy following the blob around or jaming tama full of wrecks to actually find the capping fleets and give them a seeing too.
It would be pvp then.
Ah to bad we raped your cap fleet in Fliet today, sorry for that 
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Mangala Solaris
Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2008.06.17 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Fox'Ray Edited by: Fox''Ray on 17/06/2008 17:11:47
Originally by: Mangala Solaris Edited by: Mangala Solaris on 17/06/2008 16:51:48 Its only "pve" as the Gallente are too busy following the blob around or jaming tama full of wrecks to actually find the capping fleets and give them a seeing too.
It would be pvp then.
Ah to bad we raped your cap fleet in Fliet today, sorry for that 
Info (been on site away from a PC all day)? ;) -------
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gpfwestie
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.17 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Gallente dont gatecamp? I am gallente militia and half of the time we are camping tama...
Sshhh don't tell them !!
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Spike Hammer
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.17 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Edited by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik on 17/06/2008 15:28:40
Originally by: Gilgamash and while the rest of our forces stayed on the front lines in Tama confusing and baiting the Gallentte fleet with endless easy kills...
Such as...
congrats on the system capture, a first is a first after all, but lets not loose perspective here. FW is primarily pvp orientated and the fact that several Caldari have come on here and said "stupid gallente, all they can do is pvp" should be far more worrying to the pseudo Caldari high "command" than the loss of an insignificant system in an insignificant constellation would worry the Gallente leadership.
In short we didnt want that system anyway...
Wow know one has died in your kb you must be amazing.
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Mylo Myndabinda
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Posted - 2008.06.17 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Spike Hammer
Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Such as...
Wow know one has died in your kb you must be amazing.
lol@Gal kb with no loss section
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Joza Gulikoza
The first genesis Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.06.17 18:01:00 -
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100% efficiency Gallente rocks! But come on guys you can do even better than that!
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
aurorae pacificas
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Posted - 2008.06.17 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik on 17/06/2008 18:18:23
Originally by: Mylo Myndabinda
Originally by: Spike Hammer
Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Such as...
Wow know one has died in your kb you must be amazing.
lol@Gal kb with no loss section
Hey, I didnt make the kb
I agree losses should be visible as well. Then its just a matter of debating kb accuracy!!!!!
Still, this does confirm that caldari are not just spamming t1 frigs. There are also t2 kills on there (admittedly in the minority) as well as capital vessels.
Edit:- Also this is just the first week of FW- thats a solid total of kills for any alliance, let alone one that is so disorganised and fragmented like an NPC militia
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FlameGlow
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.17 18:34:00 -
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Gallente don't want Odamia back and that's exactly why there are gatecamps all over that constellation now and Gall militia trying to complete some plexes in Odamia 
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.17 18:38:00 -
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For the love of all which is good, give FW their own forum or forcibly move them to Intergalactic Summit where it belong. This place is getting worse than COAD.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Mylo Myndabinda
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Posted - 2008.06.17 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Hey, I didnt make the kb
I agree losses should be visible as well. Then its just a matter of debating kb accuracy!!!!!
yeah, CCP should just implement their own, which would show all stats and kills relating to the war.
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Krystian
Luminaire Atrocity
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Posted - 2008.06.18 07:27:00 -
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See that Galentees even people with special needs can be a challenge. Don't underestimate the power of the handicapped. Good Job Daniel Jackson. I say an ice cream party is in order.
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