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cragz Caldari CaldaCorp Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.19 21:18:00 - [31] Would like to know if I would be allowed to sell / auction a whole account ie .. The log in details of alt account that has a noob retriever pilot and also a Pure Indy starter char with 11 lvl 5 skills inc learning and indy and science etc ?. Obviously I will create a thread following the guidlines with the chars names being sold and which char the isk will eventually be transfered too. Im not out to scam anyone far from it, its just the buyer would get 2 decent starter indy chars and once sale is done I will send them the log in details for the account and will input there email etc and once complete ill no longer be able access that account. Im struggling to pay for 2 accounts now. If I do it through a proper forum post sale ccp can then make sure I honour the deal. NO body else has the details for the account I want to sell so It would be 100% safe its Just I thought because I cant afford 2 accounts nor can I afford the transfer of both chars. So can a GM answer my question please Thnx
cragz Caldari CaldaCorp Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.22 06:05:00 - [32] Well I guess from the lack of answers to my post that im allowed to auction/ sell an account with 2 chars on it. I need clarification here as Ive never sold any chars/accounts before and dont want to be banned for breaking any rules.
Weasel Ugs	Posted - 2008.10.22 06:56:00 - [33] Doesnt it state in the EULA you can't sell accounts?
cragz Caldari CaldaCorp Quantum Star Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.22 09:29:00 - [34] God knows I havent read it, Thats why Im asking Gms' for clarification. I dont see the probelm if its for isk and legit.
VmeeX	Posted - 2008.10.23 00:06:00 - [35] I dont get part where "The character being sold must receive the ISK for the purchase. " why does that char have to receive the isk? hes on sale that char gets the isk and the owner of that char have to transfer isk to his other account ? i dont get it plz someone explain
Kataruna	Posted - 2008.10.23 22:58:00 - [36] Originally by: VmeeX I dont get part where "The character being sold must receive the ISK for the purchase. " why does that char have to receive the isk? hes on sale that char gets the isk and the owner of that char have to transfer isk to his other account ? i dont get it plz someone explain Well it's quite easy. If one has a negative wallet of 2bil and gets lets say 4bil transfered, the wallet raises to 2bils. So the owner can only transfer 2 bils instead of 4 to his ALT. The buyer then gets a char with 0.0 ISK and everything is fine.
Jake McCord Minmatar	Posted - 2008.10.26 14:15:00 - [37] Originally by: Raven6213 Edited by: Raven6213 on 08/10/2008 04:56:30 Also it should be pointed out that the character should be removed from any corporation, and allow the 24 hour waiting period to expire BEFORE the person puts the character up for sale. Um, what 24 hour period? The only 24 hour period I know of is the one you have to wait for after dropping all roles BEFORE you can leave your corp. Is this what you mean?
Marara Kovacs	Posted - 2008.10.31 13:58:00 - [38] so, what if i want to sell a character from an inactive account? how does that work with the isk???
Kepa Nimo Gallente COBRA INC The Eden Project	Posted - 2008.10.31 16:10:00 - [39] Originally by: Marara Kovacs so, what if i want to sell a character from an inactive account? how does that work with the isk??? Easy...you cannot sell a character from an inactive account, it says so in rules. If account is inactive you have to make active before you can sell "Its all for nothing, if you dont have your FREEDOM!!"
kaydanwar	Posted - 2008.11.03 16:09:00 - [40] i just paid 3.5bill for a toon and havent had it transfered what should i do ? the seller wont reply to evemail or forum txts can i please get some help with this
Myrkon	Posted - 2008.11.03 17:25:00 - [41] Originally by: CCP Mitnal ... The character being sold must receive the ISK for the purchase. ... Originally by: VmeeX I dont get part where "The character being sold must receive the ISK for the purchase. " why does that char have to receive the isk? hes on sale that char gets the isk and the owner of that char have to transfer isk to his other account ? i dont get it plz someone explain I'd also like to have this "rule" looked at as it makes no sense to me. Here's why: I put the char (not this one) up for sale, starting a thread with all the appropriate info - Including "Myrkon receives the is". Then reach a deal with someone and start waiting on the isk. He posts "isk sent". I say great. I look on evemon, my isk balance doesn't change. Damn, gotta log on. I log on to Myrkon. No isk. So I therefore start thinking "ok, this guy is trying to get me to blindly transfer the char after he posts isk transferer. This guy is a scammer." I was not originaly aware of rule changes (and therefore posted with "Myrkon gets the isk") and the buyer pointed me to the rule change. Ok, my bad. But I don't get why this rule was put in place. It only adds to the confusion. Somebody in a previous post stated that it was to prevent negative isk transfers. Why not simply put a check for negative isk in the whole character transfer process ? Thanks for reading.

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.11.04 12:30:00 - [42] Rules updated, please check out rule #6. 6. Prior to leaving a corporation, the character to be sold MUST send a corp-wide EVE mail stating that they are going to be sold and will be leaving for an NPC corporation. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang

clone 1 Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Lotto Syndicate	Posted - 2008.11.04 17:31:00 - [43] Edited by: clone 1 on 04/11/2008 17:35:03 Originally by: CCP Mitnal Rules updated, please check out rule #6. 6. Prior to leaving a corporation, the character to be sold MUST send a corp-wide EVE mail stating that they are going to be sold and will be leaving for an NPC corporation. What about if you had intended to keep a character, leave the player corp, but the following month decide to sell him. What then? Or what about after char sale, someone who uses social engineering and says they didn't sell it after all, and would like back into the corp? Rule is pretty vague. -------------------------------------------------- The Angels Have the Phone Box

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.11.04 18:00:00 - [44] Originally by: Major Snafu Mitnal: You really should have this page updated with current rules from this thread for consistency: https://secure.eve-online.com/transfercharacterfaq.aspx (Also, how about a "last modified" date on these types of pages???) Also, you REALLY need to make this point 6 in your first post: Character being sold must be in an NPC corporation before transfer. Done. Originally by: Noig Lamaroz Do CCP members keep an eye (other than when reported?) on these threads? There's like GAZILLION sell threads which lack required information and majority of posts after this rule change still are "char x for sale, iskies to char y" "char y: confirming iskies for me" Yes we do keep an eye on these threads, we also send those that may need actioning to customer support too.


CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.11.04 18:07:00 - [45] Originally by: cragz Well I guess from the lack of answers to my post that im allowed to auction/ sell an account with 2 chars on it. I need clarification here as Ive never sold any chars/accounts before and dont want to be banned for breaking any rules. No, selling accounts is not allowed.

FLF FAITHLESS Davy Jones Locker Einherjar Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.07 20:39:00 - [46] im just thinking if there could be a way to do some sort of system like the 'secure GTC trading system' but for character's ? any ideas ?
Potencial Complejo	Posted - 2008.11.10 10:17:00 - [47] Is there any legal way to sell a char from an account which is perma forum banned?
Cpt RoughNeck	Posted - 2008.11.10 11:09:00 - [48] i dont understand what you mean by the following # The character being sold must receive the ISK for the purchase. surley if the # The character being sold must receive the ISK for the purchase then the person buying the character will get the new person and isk where as the person selling gets nothing i think you really need to change that as it all seems that the buyer gains in every way where the seller loose`s everything
sumtool Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.11.12 12:41:00 - [49] Originally by: Cpt RoughNeck i dont understand what you mean by the following # The character being sold must receive the ISK for the purchase. surley if the # The character being sold must receive the ISK for the purchase then the person buying the character will get the new person and isk where as the person selling gets nothing i think you really need to change that as it all seems that the buyer gains in every way where the seller loose`s everything Or, the buyer sends the ISK to the character that is getting sold, you log in on that character, transfer the ISK to another of your characters (even if it is a 800k sp noob), and then you perform the character transfer. Easy, no?
Victor IsBorn	Posted - 2008.11.13 06:41:00 - [50] would it be acceptable to offer GTC's through secure for a character ??? as GTC's have an ISK value and someone was willing to accept there value?, how would this be done as its likely the account that's losing the char would not be the one wanting the GTC's
Tosonin	Posted - 2008.11.18 23:50:00 - [51] i don't understand why the toon being sold should recieve the isk, if it's being sold, when it's sold, does the toon not instantly transfer and you won't be able to acess it? so then how in the heck would i get my isk for the sale?
endaler	Posted - 2008.11.19 17:20:00 - [52] Edited by: endaler on 19/11/2008 17:20:25 Lets say my character, endaler,is being sold. Buyer send isk to endaler (this character) -> endaler sends isk to alt -> I transfers endaler to the buyer. I think that is how it goes. Edit: I have never done it, but i am almost sure it doesnt work the same as selling GTC's.
Tosonin	Posted - 2008.11.19 18:40:00 - [53] ok, thanks much, that issue really concerned me, that info needs to be posted in the rules somewhere to notify others of how it works
endaler	Posted - 2008.11.19 20:25:00 - [54] I agree yes, like i said i have never done it, so i am not sure if it goes the way i said it. Would be nice if Mitnal would update his post with how-to etc.
Hootie Hoo	Posted - 2008.11.22 16:03:00 - [55] Under dear CCP, I have a question to want to consult, I am a China play the family, I buy a character in friend that for safety, I transferred character's way to change to the character in my number, but the present, I buy that character freezes, investigates its ownership question, turned away own character is also violates the game to stipulate? Please give me an answer, thanks!
endaler	Posted - 2008.11.23 12:59:00 - [56] Originally by: Hootie Hoo Under dear CCP, I have a question to want to consult, I am a China play the family, I buy a character in friend that for safety, I transferred character's way to change to the character in my number, but the present, I buy that character freezes, investigates its ownership question, turned away own character is also violates the game to stipulate? Please give me an answer, thanks! I dont have a clue what you are talking about, but i think you should create a petition instead of a forum post. (i doubt they can understand you lol).
EeViLbOrNe ChIlDhAsPaWnD The Flying Tigers United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.25 11:44:00 - [57] Is it safe to post your limited User ID/API Key with your sale thread? Is there anyway to pull your account info out of it, or get a user name and run a password puller for those techie thieves out there... just wondering, if there is no cons to posting it, then why havent people been posting theirs on their sale threads? I think it would be nice to see where you can take a toon before you buy, instead of having people ask for it... seeing how much a toon has in its wallet doesn't mean a thing... the other info is quite valuable to potential buyers though. So, is there any drawbacks? other than everyone and theyre mother knowing what im training even though ineve- shows it too?
EeViLbOrNe ChIlDhAsPaWnD The Flying Tigers United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.11.25 11:47:00 - [58] Originally by: Hootie Hoo Under dear CCP, I have a question to want to consult, I am a China play the family, I buy a character in friend that for safety, I transferred character's way to change to the character in my number, but the present, I buy that character freezes, investigates its ownership question, turned away own character is also violates the game to stipulate? Please give me an answer, thanks! I am going to guess that the account was bought and that would violate the EULA under which the game subscription is derived from. If you bought the toon for a friend or family member and then just gave them the account, for no money whatsoever... maybe that wouldn't violate the EULA, but I dont read those... Did you know windows EULA used to give them rights to enter your home and access your computer? dunno if they still do, but thats what we get for not reading the fine print...
Ivan Vimes Gallente Wits W.A.R.P.	Posted - 2008.11.26 12:52:00 - [59] Originally by: EeViLbOrNe ChIlDhAsPaWnD Is it safe to post your limited User ID/API Key with your sale thread? Is there anyway to pull your account info out of it, or get a user name and run a password puller for those techie thieves out there... The quote below is from the page where you can generate your API key (http://myeve.eve-online.com/api/default.asp). Basically, the API key is in no way at all related to your username and password, and therefore it is not possible to derive username and password from it. Quote: Is this safe? Can someone steal my account? It is safe to provide your user ID and API key to applications and web sites as long as you are prepared to allow the application or web site to see your character and corporation information. Sharing your API key, full or limited, does NOT give people access to your account. Sharing your account password would. The API key only allows the recipient to view your character and corporation data but gives them NO control over it. They are NOT able to log in to the game or post on the forums with the API information. The API key is in no way generated from your account password - there is no way to calculate your password using this information. This is the only safe way to give programs and web sites access to your data. Do not give out your account username or password to any person, program, or web site. Please keep in mind that doing so is a violation of the EULA and can lead to account termination.
Smeck	Posted - 2008.11.27 17:33:00 - [60] :D Good info :P People should start using theyre API keys instead of InEVE or Newforms then :D would give buyers great insight on the toons and ability to skill.

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