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CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.06.20 02:23:00 - [1] In an effort to reduce the amount of character scams, GM workload and player frustration, the following changes are being made to the announcements concerning character sales or auctions for ISK. These changes are in addition to the general forum channel rules which still apply, and will be in effect until the completion of the secure character sale service currently being coded. The 'For Sale/Auction' post must be made by the character being offered. This is being added to prevent scams for characters that have been misrepresented, banned, non-existent, etc. You must disclose whether or not the character being sold has a negative balance in its wallet and the amount. The character who will be receiving the ISK after the sale of the character must be listed in the thread. The sell post must reflect the character correctly, posting that the character you're selling has more skillpoints or ISK than it actually has is a bannable offence. You may only bump threads ONCE Per day. Date is determined by the date on the forum, not the date where you live. These changes are effective immediately. Existing announcements are exempt but edits made after the time of the announcement must follow the above rules. Posts made after this announcement will be edited with a link to this thread or deleted without notification. We apologize for the additional inconvenience. Please post below with any rule change, new rule submission or resource you feel useful for fellow players or something you want to bring to our attention. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang


CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.06.20 02:39:00 - [2] Resources Deckard Bishop's guide to buying and selling characters in EVE Saint advises on what to do if you can't log into your new character straight away Wrangler warns about keyloggers Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang


CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.06.27 03:34:00 - [3] To confirm the effects of a negative isk character, they include: * Inability to run agent missions with collateral. * Inability to trade. * Inability to use contracts. * Anything involving having to pay for the service is unavailable. Clearly this is quite a restriction. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang

samurai 8 Caldari Quatidion Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2008.09.05 22:16:00 - [4] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=863654&page=1 OK CHECK THIS OUT!!! There should be a rule for this! I mean it just sucks. "If there is a will, there is a way"
Leeloo Vinaere	Posted - 2008.09.16 21:24:00 - [5] if you met the reserve price in an auction is the buy obligated to sell the character or can they still just decide that that isnt enough & end the auction?
Research Toon	Posted - 2008.09.18 14:34:00 - [6] o
GeloMan	Posted - 2008.10.01 10:40:00 - [7] Datacore01 goes to Lord Lycos, 2B reserve was met by his 2B offer. Sending email to you and ready to handle the transfer as soon as you reply (here and/or in eve-mail). Again, the isk should be sent to Geloman, as originaly stated.
Enihcam Xes	Posted - 2008.10.01 19:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Leeloo Vinaere if you met the reserve price in an auction is the buy obligated to sell the character or can they still just decide that that isnt enough & end the auction? I would really like to know this too.

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.10.02 16:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Leeloo Vinaere if you met the reserve price in an auction is the buy obligated to sell the character or can they still just decide that that isnt enough & end the auction? No, the seller may choose to pull out of the transaction at any time. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang

Gallente Citizen 108	Posted - 2008.10.04 09:28:00 - [10] Do you not think this will lead to chars being transferred where the seller forgets to empty the wallet and ends up giving new owner the char and the isk?
cragz Caldari 1st Marine Space Wing	Posted - 2008.10.04 12:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Gallente Citizen 108 Do you not think this will lead to chars being transferred where the seller forgets to empty the wallet and ends up giving new owner the char and the isk? Lol was thinkin the same thing when I first read this new rule. Its bound to happen in a few cases. If this happened would CCP help to recover the isk ?
Noig Lamaroz Darwin's Contraptions	Posted - 2008.10.05 22:20:00 - [12] What was so wrong in the 'old way' of character xyz getting the isk, instead the character that is for sale?
Mystic Apple	Posted - 2008.10.05 22:41:00 - [13] So where do you go to find characters for sale ? any links?
Mystic Apple	Posted - 2008.10.05 22:45:00 - [14] ok - I think I have worked it out - I am the Forest Gump from down under
Drakkonia	Posted - 2008.10.06 14:57:00 - [15] This new rule that the character being sold must receive isk leads to more errors. That means that the char has to receive the isk then transfer that isk to another alt or char and then transfer the char. The old way where the char being sold posted who the isk went to and then that char confirmed worked pretty well. Why this change?
Drevia	Posted - 2008.10.06 16:41:00 - [16] I'm looking to sell a character together with assets and a corporation with an anchored (high-sec) POS as an all-in-one package. A) Are there any restrictions against doing this? B) Does this (as a single package) fall under the "no scam" rules for character sales? (The answer I'm looking for here is 'yes'--it's to my benefit to have buyers confident in the purchase.)
Drakkonia	Posted - 2008.10.06 17:16:00 - [17] Originally by: Drevia I'm looking to sell a character together with assets and a corporation with an anchored (high-sec) POS as an all-in-one package. A) Are there any restrictions against doing this? B) Does this (as a single package) fall under the "no scam" rules for character sales? (The answer I'm looking for here is 'yes'--it's to my benefit to have buyers confident in the purchase.) AFAIK , this is just a character being sold with Assets and there does not violate EULA and hence the answer is YES
Drevia	Posted - 2008.10.06 17:37:00 - [18] Originally by: Drakkonia AFAIK , this is just a character being sold with Assets and there does not violate EULA and hence the answer is YES Well, the assets on the character yes, but this includes a corporation, a POS currently anchored and operational, with most BPOs currently running as jobs on said POS. I'd rather sell this all as one package deal and not piecemeal.
Drakkonia	Posted - 2008.10.06 17:53:00 - [19] Originally by: Drevia Originally by: Drakkonia AFAIK , this is just a character being sold with Assets and there does not violate EULA and hence the answer is YES Well, the assets on the character yes, but this includes a corporation, a POS currently anchored and operational, with most BPOs currently running as jobs on said POS. I'd rather sell this all as one package deal and not piecemeal. If its a one person corporation and POS and the BPOS and everything is owned by the corporation , it still counts just as assets.
Drevia	Posted - 2008.10.06 18:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Drakkonia If its a one person corporation and POS and the BPOS and everything is owned by the corporation , it still counts just as assets. You have to leave your corporation in order to conduct a character transfer, so the transfer of the corporation and its assets occurs separately, so are not technically the character's assets. I'd obviously have to transfer control of the corporation to an alt, remove the char being sold, transfer it, then have the new owner of the character rejoin the corporation and be made CEO again.
Drakkonia	Posted - 2008.10.06 18:59:00 - [21] Originally by: Drevia You have to leave your corporation in order to conduct a character transfer, so the transfer of the corporation and its assets occurs separately, so are not technically the character's assets. I'd obviously have to transfer control of the corporation to an alt, remove the char being sold, transfer it, then have the new owner of the character rejoin the corporation and be made CEO again. It does not say anywhere in the rules that you have to be in an NPC corp for transfering a character at least not that I noticed.
Rickurg	Posted - 2008.10.06 20:12:00 - [22] Originally by: Drakkonia It does not say anywhere in the rules that you have to be in an NPC corp for transfering a character at least not that I noticed. https://secure.eve-online.com/transfercharacterfaq.aspx 3. Why does my character have to be in an NPC corporation to be transferred? Being in a player corporation is a serious commitment. There is no way for CCP to verify that you are transferring your character with the consent of your fellow corporation members. To transfer such a character you need to first resign from your corporation, after the transfer the character can reapply for the corporation and the corpmates then have the option of evaluating if they choose to reaccept the character under the changed circumstances.
Drakkonia	Posted - 2008.10.06 20:22:00 - [23] Thanks Rickburg. I didnt know this.
Lone wholf	Posted - 2008.10.07 18:36:00 - [24] Originally by: Noig Lamaroz What was so wrong in the 'old way' of character xyz getting the isk, instead the character that is for sale? Although I too believe this will cause more headaches with forgetting to grab isk, but I believe the reason was to stop people from selling chars with negative wallets.
Noig Lamaroz Darwin's Contraptions	Posted - 2008.10.07 20:22:00 - [25] Wallet status (atleast was) one required information from character being sold. Anyone isnt obligated to buy negative wallet character If negative wallet is the reason for this change, rather disallow selling such characters than create another source for petitions that will cause headache for GM's.
Raven6213	Posted - 2008.10.08 04:50:00 - [26] Also it should be pointed out that the character should be removed from any corporation, and allow the 24 hour waiting period to expire BEFORE the person puts the character up for sale.
Noig Lamaroz Darwin's Contraptions	Posted - 2008.10.08 14:04:00 - [27] Do CCP members keep an eye (other than when reported?) on these threads? There's like GAZILLION sell threads which lack required information and majority of posts after this rule change still are "char x for sale, iskies to char y" "char y: confirming iskies for me"
Major Snafu	Posted - 2008.10.10 15:11:00 - [28] Mitnal: You really should have this page updated with current rules from this thread for consistency: https://secure.eve-online.com/transfercharacterfaq.aspx (Also, how about a "last modified" date on these types of pages???) Also, you REALLY need to make this point 6 in your first post: Character being sold must be in an NPC corporation before transfer.
Arcanoil Corsairs Inc. Morsus Empire	Posted - 2008.10.14 09:28:00 - [29] i like that new rules. That way when you transfer the money to the character you are buying you know that the cash balance won't be negatif. That way if the balance is negatif the seller is screwed cause when you will send the money the balance will turn green or the guy will never have isk for it.
Vitamin Deficiency	Posted - 2008.10.17 18:51:00 - [30] Just a warning to you guys. Don't have new characters transferred to your main account! I bought a new char on this forum precisely adhering to the steps described in this thread. Less then a week later my account is permanently banned for a character ownership investigation. It's been over a day since I petitioned to get information on this ban and all got back is an email saying that I had a character transferred to my account. I mean, yeah, obviously. If there was a question of a hacked account or something you'd think they could mention that. So now not only am I locked out of my new character, but I can't use the other characters on that account. I bet the shadow training nerf applies to this as well, too.

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