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Tharukan Desm'ar
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Posted - 2008.06.20 09:19:00 -
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I might not agree with scamming but I cant see a valid reason for it to be banned just because i might not like it. I mean its totally within the remit of the EULA. So just shop better on the contract system i guess.
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Victor Valka
Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.20 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: DiaBlo UK CCP is not your mommy, you should be off the breast by now. i wonder if its gonna censor breast...
Breast and boobs are A-OK with CCP.
They're men, after all. They understand our innate need to talk about soft, squishy things.
( Tits, however, are censored. )
Originally by: Roxanna Kell You are insane.
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DiaBlo UK
Precision Engineering
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Posted - 2008.06.20 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: DiaBlo UK CCP is not your mommy, you should be off the breast by now. i wonder if its gonna censor breast...
Breast and boobs are A-OK with CCP.
They're men, after all. They understand our innate need to talk about soft, squishy things.
( Tits, however, are censored. )
ah, i was gonna say, not this time, but now i see what you did there ;)
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Tommy Reslin
Crescent Moon Volunteer Squadron
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Posted - 2008.06.20 09:48:00 -
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Scamming was one of the reasons that got me into this game as well. Heck, I don't even scam. I never plan to either. However, the economy is very realistic, players that do decide to scam don't vanish by some supreme God. It actually makes for a more realistic world. Instead, you can punish scammers by having your friends hunt them down and repeatedly blowing them up. Someone already posted about this happening to him by an angry group of russians.
If you want to quit this game that's fully up to you but if I was in your shoes I'd take some of my friends and go hunting. I'm not going to say I'm sorry for you because your attitude is very poor. Anyone that gives up this easily might be happier elsewhere.
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Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2008.06.20 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia I knew scamming was allowed long before I even joined EVE – heck, it was one of the reasons for joining.
I joined when I read about the GHSC heist in a newspaper 
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Forge Lag
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Posted - 2008.06.20 10:01:00 -
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Do you realize even something called WoW was not persecuting scamming for years although you had to have total trust to acquire essential parts of gear? Without contracts, without warning boxes, without market averages. Even they resisted kid whines while they still had some other customers. You demand more bear care than WoW had?
Do what you do in life. Do not trade on net with you main account (character) and make only so much money vulnerable as needed for a trade.
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Digital Solaris
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Posted - 2008.06.20 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it.
Clue? I'll sell you a clue. Secure transfer, fast and reliable. 
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Tippia
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.06.20 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Digital Solaris Clue? I'll sell you a clue. Secure transfer, fast and reliable. 
Speaking of which, could I interest anyone in a Large EMP Smartbomb II BPC? I'll pay you for taking it! Pleeeeease! 
Ok, maybe I won't pay to get it off my hands, but it's a neat little item that demonstrates what ≡v≡ is all about: even the NPC mission agents scam you by giving you completely useless, unsellable and loss-inducing items as "rewards" for all your hard work. Now, if the NPCs are that nasty, do you really expect the players to be well-behaved? 
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Siddy
Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake
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Posted - 2008.06.20 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS
Originally by: Malcolm Gerwulf Boy I'm not sure if I should ask for your stuff, or tell you about the new game coming out from CCP based on EVE but with more of a "moderated sandbox" flavor. The cool thing about it is you are able to transfer some of your Isk from EVE over to the new game at a 50% exchange rate. I already have a character with max fighter skills so if you want me to transfer some money over for you, just follow these instructions:
1. post your new account name in this thread 2. send the amount of money you want transferred to this character, Malcolm Gerwulf 3. mail me in-game when your account is up and you'll have your money back in minutes
except forum scamming is against the EULA - in game scamming is not
Wana buy some lottery tikets for a mothership raffle, Rattus? ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty... |

Jongo Fett
Save Yourself Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.20 10:47:00 -
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Playing For 4 Years and not once hearing of a scam. Did you play for 5 minutes and just come back now or something???
Scams are everywhere in eve.
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ShadowMaiden
Metal Machine
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Posted - 2008.06.20 11:02:00 -
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ITT - people who simply cannot spot an obvious troll
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F'nog
Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.20 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Digital Solaris Clue? I'll sell you a clue. Secure transfer, fast and reliable. 
Speaking of which, could I interest anyone in a Large EMP Smartbomb II BPC? I'll pay you for taking it! Pleeeeease! 
Ok, maybe I won't pay to get it off my hands, but it's a neat little item that demonstrates what ≡v≡ is all about: even the NPC mission agents scam you by giving you completely useless, unsellable and loss-inducing items as "rewards" for all your hard work. Now, if the NPCs are that nasty, do you really expect the players to be well-behaved? 
I thought that mission running bit was a win, but this trumps it, hands down. This bit should be on the login screen and stickied on every forum.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.20 11:20:00 -
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Obvious troll
Eve has some really really stupid people playing, but NO ONE could possibly be stupid enough to play for four YEARS and not know that in game scams are legal.
I know many folks will disagree, but some things are simply beyond the power of human stupidity.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
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ceyriot
Entropians on Vacation
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Posted - 2008.06.20 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: bwheeler BTW before someone beats me to it. Since your quiting can I have your stuff?
You forgot that some ebil guy took it all.
Now, while you were recalling that fact, I just took some random sh*t that was left! 
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Haywoode Jablome
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.20 11:46:00 -
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EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world. - Wrangler
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Sorlac
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.06.20 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Spot
I know many folks will disagree, but some things are simply beyond the power of human stupidity.
You must not get out much if you think there is a limit to human stupidity.
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RaTTuS
BIG
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Posted - 2008.06.20 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: RaTTuS on 20/06/2008 11:53:33
Originally by: Siddy
Wana buy some lottery tikets for a mothership raffle, Rattus?
thats true - it's only scamming for characters or things that cost RL that is banned -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve,
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Leora Nomen
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Posted - 2008.06.20 11:54:00 -
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well what did you expect? to win all the time in game and slowly grind up your billion without anyone trying to take a piece? if so you were playing the wrong game
guide to game time codes |

Bleeshtar
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Posted - 2008.06.20 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Preditorian i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE.
What the!?
One of the first things I learned probably within a day if not within hours is that scams happen and to be aware of them.
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Grimpak
The Republican 1st Strike Force
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Posted - 2008.06.20 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it.
you CAN'T be serious, now can you?
also troll post is a troll. ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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NeoTheo
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2008.06.20 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: NeoTheo on 20/06/2008 13:06:17
Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it.
this game will be a much better place without you. goodbye, we dont want yer stuff.
Neotheo Dark Materials
Linkage
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Tatsujin Koufu
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Posted - 2008.06.20 13:09:00 -
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Quote:
this game will be a much better place without you. goodbye, we dont want yer stuff.
Speak for yourself, give me your stuff!!
Seriously whatever it is get over it, i place genuine orders up for sale and im amazed at the amount of times people have overpayed me for my missiles.
They do this as they are putting up scam orders, so it works both ways
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Barometer
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Posted - 2008.06.20 13:42:00 -
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I already gave my account to someone, just gave it to the first new guy i saw so stop asking.
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SOLAK TIER
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Posted - 2008.06.20 13:46:00 -
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\O/ Another E-BAY'r leaves.. I wonder if He is related to the E-Bay'r who lost that craptastically fitted mom?
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Altaree
Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.06.20 14:21:00 -
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
You made me giggle... Thanks!
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Letrange
Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2008.06.20 14:34:00 -
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The level of fail of a 4 year old character being unaware of the scams in eve. Even as a 1 month old char I had heard of some of them.
you sir, are either
1) a troll 2) someone who bought his char on e-bay 3) an absolute idiot
Take your pick, come back and pick twice even.
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.06.20 14:36:00 -
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this is not a thread
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Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.20 14:36:00 -
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Yeah, there are people in Eve who live to be thieves of various sorts. However, for the sake of argument, where does one draw the line on a scam?
For example, the stated 'Caracal as a Cerberus' or 'billion isk iteron' are obviously attempts to catch stupid people who don't check and double-check an item they are purchasing. That's a scam set up to take advantage of people who make a mistake.
But what about overcharging items? I'm selling Oxygen Isotopes to former Insurgency members in their former main station for 2,750 isk per unit. More than 5 times empire price, but they need it to get their Capitals out now that they've failure cascaded. I'm selling shuttles for 200,000. Would that be considered a 'scam' to you?
Because to me, its a great and glorious victory for our Economic Warfare Unit. 
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2008.06.20 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it.
Caveat Emptor or "buyer beware" is the general rule in EVE. In danish (my language) we have a saying that goes: "den kloge narrer den mindre kloge" which roughly translates into "the wize tricks the less wize".
Confidence scams and price fixing. Spying and ambusing. These are all elements of human interaction. I am not saying that it would be impossible to design a game without them, but what would be the point?
Where does the line between a scam and exhuberant pricing go? If I make an item at 100 ISK and put it up for sale at 1000 ISK, can I be called a scammer, or am I simply a clever businesman?
I submit to you that "scammer" is as non-descriptive as "pirate". It depends entirely on your perspective. If YOU are the one being shot at, the person doing the shooting is quite obviously a pirate. In much the same way, you can be called the scammer if you are the one using your knowledge of humans to your advantage.
Rule #1 in EVE is "do not trust anyone".
Oh and P.S. I can hold your stuff for you if you arent using it in the near future 
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Bleeshtar
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Posted - 2008.06.20 14:49:00 -
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HRm...
I thought rule No. 1 was "Dont fly what you cant afford to lose".
Rule No. 2 was "Dont trust anyone".
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