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Preditorian	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:00:00 - [1] First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:01:00 - [2] Even though you've been "playing" for 4 years...welcome to EVE. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
CrayC CrayC Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Preditorian i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE That's a first...
syphurous Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:02:00 - [4] You know, once I brought an iteron for 945 mil. I just accepted the loss, not much I could do about it, just let it go. Since then I dont use the market when I'm tired or when I'm in a hurry I make sure I double check, because the time wasted could save me a billion isk lol. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
May Burke	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:03:00 - [5] who did what u off k bye
Exodus Alpha Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:03:00 - [6] Welcome to Eve!
bwheeler DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:04:00 - [7] Check the Crime and Punishment section where this thread actully belongs. Scams are part of the game. Its a Sandbox enviorment, if you can play the good guy then the other person can play the bad guy. BTW before someone beats me to it. Since your quiting can I have your stuff?
Malcolm Gerwulf	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:06:00 - [8] Boy I'm not sure if I should ask for your stuff, or tell you about the new game coming out from CCP based on EVE but with more of a "moderated sandbox" flavor. The cool thing about it is you are able to transfer some of your Isk from EVE over to the new game at a 50% exchange rate. I already have a character with max fighter skills so if you want me to transfer some money over for you, just follow these instructions: 1. post your new account name in this thread 2. send the amount of money you want transferred to this character, Malcolm Gerwulf 3. mail me in-game when your account is up and you'll have your money back in minutes
Braaage eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:07:00 - [9] Originally by: Preditorian i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE You need to get out more..... -- POSs, Outposts, Exploration, Mining, Invention, Boosters, EVE Database, Character Generator & more
Ooyama Rastana CMP	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:10:00 - [10] (can't believe it ain't done yet),,, Your stuff,, can i have? Yama.
Steamroll McGee	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:10:00 - [11] Well , I guess when you bear it up for 4 years running missions and not talking to anyone this might happen.
Mangala Solaris Ma'adim Logistics	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:11:00 - [12] Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it. At least tell us what happened to you, will make great "read-over-breakfast" material. -------
bwheeler DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:12:00 - [13] Originally by: Ooyama (can't believe it ain't done yet),,, Your stuff,, can i have? Yama. Check my post 3 ahead of yours :P
El'Niaga Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:12:00 - [14] No way you made it 4 years without knowing scamming was legal....
Estel Arador	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:13:00 - [15] EVE investment bank Guided Hand Social Club Estel Arador corp services (high-sec POS/JCs) just 120M isk!
Jim Pooley Circus Fantastique	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:14:00 - [16] Edited by: Jim Pooley on 20/06/2008 08:14:29 Originally by: Preditorian I have left EVE for this crap and cancelled my 15 accounts, oh and all my 300 friends are doing the same, we're all off to WoW etc There fixed it for you. Seriously, if you're gonna quit in a strop, do it properly please. edit: blimey, you guys are fast! ------------------------------------------ Mines a Pint of Large
Ooyama Rastana CMP	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:18:00 - [17] Originally by: bwheeler Originally by: Ooyama (can't believe it ain't done yet),,, Your stuff,, can i have? Yama. Check my post 3 ahead of yours :P Bugger,, missed that. (if there's any goodies,, can we share?) Yama.
Dihania Mucho Dolor	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:28:00 - [18] Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it. I was going to post "I see what you did there" ... BUT you seem genuine... yes.. genuine.. BOUGHT ON EBAY Welcome to EVE. Hope you stay (honestly not). . Stuff I need isk!Accepting donations. Renting this sig space. Open to take on various jobs.
Misanth Electro Fuels	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:32:00 - [19] Originally by: El'Niaga No way you made it 4 years without knowing scamming was legal.... I scammed the very first day in EVE. First three days of mine I stole cans (there was no wrecks then) and did bookmark scams (sold bookmarks with a phony location). That's the first thing I learned in this game, that a low-skilled players best make money by stealing. I also wonder how the hell he could play 4 years without noticing. I stopped my scamming and thieving after I ***ed off a group of 200 angry russians that camped me into a station, since then I been a combat pilot and made sure to play with corps that has industrial sides as well.. but yah, seriously, the best and most logical way for a new player to earn ISK with that low sp would be to steal ore and ninja-salvage other players wrecks. shrugs* at OP.
Riho Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:36:00 - [20] Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it. so... in otherwords yor where stupid.. lost isk and now whine about it. you need to think abit if you play around whit isk. scamming is good... weeds out the stupid ones :) ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:38:00 - [21] The only scam I ever fell for was a 50k ransom of my second Rifter by a pirate Omen over 4 years ago. He of course, blew me up. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal. I'm the Juggernaut, *****!
Armoured C Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:39:00 - [22] this guys charater may have been playingg for 4 years but the op certianly hasnt ive been playing 2 and i know people who have been scammed. yeah there annoyed but it all with in game mechanics and technically you cant really get scammed since none of the property you own in eve belongs to you CCP scammed it self
RaTTuS BIG	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:42:00 - [23] Originally by: Malcolm Gerwulf Boy I'm not sure if I should ask for your stuff, or tell you about the new game coming out from CCP based on EVE but with more of a "moderated sandbox" flavor. The cool thing about it is you are able to transfer some of your Isk from EVE over to the new game at a 50% exchange rate. I already have a character with max fighter skills so if you want me to transfer some money over for you, just follow these instructions: 1. post your new account name in this thread 2. send the amount of money you want transferred to this character, Malcolm Gerwulf 3. mail me in-game when your account is up and you'll have your money back in minutes except forum scamming is against the EULA - in game scamming is not -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve,
Haks'he Lirky Dominion Imperium	Posted - 2008.06.20 08:57:00 - [24] Originally by: Steamroll McGee Well , I guess when you bear it up for 4 years running missions and not talking to anyone this might happen. hahhahaha! to the OP, it's nice to see you go.
Zinras Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.06.20 09:01:00 - [25] Originally by: Steamroll McGee Well , I guess when you bear it up for 4 years running missions and not talking to anyone this might happen. Win. Also, stuff, can I has? Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal
Des Garcons	Posted - 2008.06.20 09:02:00 - [26] Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it. heres the short version, Hey guys i just bought this account then got scammed cause im a noob, WTF?
Rayleen Orendo	Posted - 2008.06.20 09:05:00 - [27] Quote: i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE ...does not compute.
ZinderX500 RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.20 09:05:00 - [28] I can't think a reason for scamming to be punishable. If you are drunk/dizzy/sick/stupid or simply a dumb** , then it's normal to be scammed. NOBODY forced you to buy the item in this extremely high price. The seller just puts it there. If you buy it then it's your fault. _____________________ Shelley Godfrey: Have you lost your mind!? Baltar**: That's an interesting question, and one I pose to myself on a regular basis.
Zarthanon S.A.S Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2008.06.20 09:09:00 - [29] I LOLed. You need to be punched in the face for paying for a game for 4 years but not actually playing it. I've made countless billions off of scamming. It used to be much easier too, selling Stabber as Vagabond, and Caracal as Cerberus. CCP have made things that people used for scamming a little bit clearer and harder to fall for, but some idiots still do. You seem to be one of those idiots. Welcome to EVE. I like pie.
Tippia School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.06.20 09:11:00 - [30] I knew scamming was allowed long before I even joined EVE – heck, it was one of the reasons for joining. Maybe you should read up on the game before buying a character.
Tharukan Desm'ar	Posted - 2008.06.20 09:19:00 - [31] I might not agree with scamming but I cant see a valid reason for it to be banned just because i might not like it. I mean its totally within the remit of the EULA. So just shop better on the contract system i guess.
Victor Valka Kissaki Corporation	Posted - 2008.06.20 09:39:00 - [32] Originally by: DiaBlo UK CCP is not your mommy, you should be off the breast by now. i wonder if its gonna censor breast... Breast and boobs are A-OK with CCP. They're men, after all. They understand our innate need to talk about soft, squishy things. ( Tits, however, are censored. ) Originally by: Roxanna Kell You are insane.
DiaBlo UK Precision Engineering	Posted - 2008.06.20 09:42:00 - [33] Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: DiaBlo UK CCP is not your mommy, you should be off the breast by now. i wonder if its gonna censor breast... Breast and boobs are A-OK with CCP. They're men, after all. They understand our innate need to talk about soft, squishy things. ( Tits, however, are censored. ) ah, i was gonna say, not this time, but now i see what you did there ;)
Tommy Reslin Crescent Moon Volunteer Squadron	Posted - 2008.06.20 09:48:00 - [34] Scamming was one of the reasons that got me into this game as well. Heck, I don't even scam. I never plan to either. However, the economy is very realistic, players that do decide to scam don't vanish by some supreme God. It actually makes for a more realistic world. Instead, you can punish scammers by having your friends hunt them down and repeatedly blowing them up. Someone already posted about this happening to him by an angry group of russians. If you want to quit this game that's fully up to you but if I was in your shoes I'd take some of my friends and go hunting. I'm not going to say I'm sorry for you because your attitude is very poor. Anyone that gives up this easily might be happier elsewhere.
Pytria Le'Danness Placid Reborn	Posted - 2008.06.20 09:58:00 - [35] Originally by: Tippia I knew scamming was allowed long before I even joined EVE – heck, it was one of the reasons for joining. I joined when I read about the GHSC heist in a newspaper Corporation RP channel: "PlacidReborn"
Forge Lag	Posted - 2008.06.20 10:01:00 - [36] Do you realize even something called WoW was not persecuting scamming for years although you had to have total trust to acquire essential parts of gear? Without contracts, without warning boxes, without market averages. Even they resisted kid whines while they still had some other customers. You demand more bear care than WoW had? Do what you do in life. Do not trade on net with you main account (character) and make only so much money vulnerable as needed for a trade.
Digital Solaris	Posted - 2008.06.20 10:03:00 - [37] Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it. Clue? I'll sell you a clue. Secure transfer, fast and reliable. ~No, you are not special. I insult everyone.
Tippia School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.06.20 10:12:00 - [38] Originally by: Digital Solaris Clue? I'll sell you a clue. Secure transfer, fast and reliable. Speaking of which, could I interest anyone in a Large EMP Smartbomb II BPC? I'll pay you for taking it! Pleeeeease! Ok, maybe I won't pay to get it off my hands, but it's a neat little item that demonstrates what ≡v≡ is all about: even the NPC mission agents scam you by giving you completely useless, unsellable and loss-inducing items as "rewards" for all your hard work. Now, if the NPCs are that nasty, do you really expect the players to be well-behaved?
Siddy Gay Nationalist Association of Amamake	Posted - 2008.06.20 10:42:00 - [39] Originally by: RaTTuS Originally by: Malcolm Gerwulf Boy I'm not sure if I should ask for your stuff, or tell you about the new game coming out from CCP based on EVE but with more of a "moderated sandbox" flavor. The cool thing about it is you are able to transfer some of your Isk from EVE over to the new game at a 50% exchange rate. I already have a character with max fighter skills so if you want me to transfer some money over for you, just follow these instructions: 1. post your new account name in this thread 2. send the amount of money you want transferred to this character, Malcolm Gerwulf 3. mail me in-game when your account is up and you'll have your money back in minutes except forum scamming is against the EULA - in game scamming is not Wana buy some lottery tikets for a mothership raffle, Rattus? ------------- T'ey see me t'Rollin, t'ey hatin, pa'trolli. T'ey trying catch me writing dirty...
Jongo Fett Save Yourself Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.20 10:47:00 - [40] Playing For 4 Years and not once hearing of a scam. Did you play for 5 minutes and just come back now or something??? Scams are everywhere in eve.
ShadowMaiden Metal Machine	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:02:00 - [41] ITT - people who simply cannot spot an obvious troll I wish I was a 3ft Doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes
F'nog Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:15:00 - [42] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Digital Solaris Clue? I'll sell you a clue. Secure transfer, fast and reliable. Speaking of which, could I interest anyone in a Large EMP Smartbomb II BPC? I'll pay you for taking it! Pleeeeease! Ok, maybe I won't pay to get it off my hands, but it's a neat little item that demonstrates what ≡v≡ is all about: even the NPC mission agents scam you by giving you completely useless, unsellable and loss-inducing items as "rewards" for all your hard work. Now, if the NPCs are that nasty, do you really expect the players to be well-behaved? I thought that mission running bit was a win, but this trumps it, hands down. This bit should be on the login screen and stickied on every forum. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:20:00 - [43] Obvious troll Eve has some really really stupid people playing, but NO ONE could possibly be stupid enough to play for four YEARS and not know that in game scams are legal. I know many folks will disagree, but some things are simply beyond the power of human stupidity. Play nice while you butcher each other.
ceyriot Entropians on Vacation	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:34:00 - [44] Originally by: bwheeler BTW before someone beats me to it. Since your quiting can I have your stuff? You forgot that some ebil guy took it all. Now, while you were recalling that fact, I just took some random sh*t that was left! Faction Store - Killboard
Haywoode Jablome State War Academy	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:46:00 - [45] EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world. - Wrangler
Sorlac Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:51:00 - [46] Originally by: Sergeant Spot I know many folks will disagree, but some things are simply beyond the power of human stupidity. You must not get out much if you think there is a limit to human stupidity.
RaTTuS BIG	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:53:00 - [47] Edited by: RaTTuS on 20/06/2008 11:53:33 Originally by: Siddy Wana buy some lottery tikets for a mothership raffle, Rattus? thats true - it's only scamming for characters or things that cost RL that is banned -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve,
Leora Nomen	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:54:00 - [48] well what did you expect? to win all the time in game and slowly grind up your billion without anyone trying to take a piece? if so you were playing the wrong game guide to game time codes
Bleeshtar	Posted - 2008.06.20 12:41:00 - [49] Originally by: Preditorian i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE. What the!? One of the first things I learned probably within a day if not within hours is that scams happen and to be aware of them.
Grimpak The Republican 1st Strike Force	Posted - 2008.06.20 13:00:00 - [50] Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it. you CAN'T be serious, now can you? also troll post is a troll. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
NeoTheo Dark Materials	Posted - 2008.06.20 13:06:00 - [51] Edited by: NeoTheo on 20/06/2008 13:06:17 Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it. this game will be a much better place without you. goodbye, we dont want yer stuff. Neotheo Dark Materials Linkage
Tatsujin Koufu	Posted - 2008.06.20 13:09:00 - [52] Quote: this game will be a much better place without you. goodbye, we dont want yer stuff. Speak for yourself, give me your stuff!! Seriously whatever it is get over it, i place genuine orders up for sale and im amazed at the amount of times people have overpayed me for my missiles. They do this as they are putting up scam orders, so it works both ways
Barometer	Posted - 2008.06.20 13:42:00 - [53] I already gave my account to someone, just gave it to the first new guy i saw so stop asking.
SOLAK TIER	Posted - 2008.06.20 13:46:00 - [54] \O/ Another E-BAY'r leaves.. I wonder if He is related to the E-Bay'r who lost that craptastically fitted mom?
Altaree Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2008.06.20 14:21:00 - [55] ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha You made me giggle... Thanks! Blue Sky
Letrange Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2008.06.20 14:34:00 - [56] The level of fail of a 4 year old character being unaware of the scams in eve. Even as a 1 month old char I had heard of some of them. you sir, are either 1) a troll 2) someone who bought his char on e-bay 3) an absolute idiot Take your pick, come back and pick twice even.
Zaqar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.06.20 14:36:00 - [57] this is not a thread
Princess Jodi Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.20 14:36:00 - [58] Yeah, there are people in Eve who live to be thieves of various sorts. However, for the sake of argument, where does one draw the line on a scam? For example, the stated 'Caracal as a Cerberus' or 'billion isk iteron' are obviously attempts to catch stupid people who don't check and double-check an item they are purchasing. That's a scam set up to take advantage of people who make a mistake. But what about overcharging items? I'm selling Oxygen Isotopes to former Insurgency members in their former main station for 2,750 isk per unit. More than 5 times empire price, but they need it to get their Capitals out now that they've failure cascaded. I'm selling shuttles for 200,000. Would that be considered a 'scam' to you? Because to me, its a great and glorious victory for our Economic Warfare Unit.
Schani Kratnorr x13	Posted - 2008.06.20 14:47:00 - [59] Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it. Caveat Emptor or "buyer beware" is the general rule in EVE. In danish (my language) we have a saying that goes: "den kloge narrer den mindre kloge" which roughly translates into "the wize tricks the less wize". Confidence scams and price fixing. Spying and ambusing. These are all elements of human interaction. I am not saying that it would be impossible to design a game without them, but what would be the point? Where does the line between a scam and exhuberant pricing go? If I make an item at 100 ISK and put it up for sale at 1000 ISK, can I be called a scammer, or am I simply a clever businesman? I submit to you that "scammer" is as non-descriptive as "pirate". It depends entirely on your perspective. If YOU are the one being shot at, the person doing the shooting is quite obviously a pirate. In much the same way, you can be called the scammer if you are the one using your knowledge of humans to your advantage. Rule #1 in EVE is "do not trust anyone". Oh and P.S. I can hold your stuff for you if you arent using it in the near future
Bleeshtar	Posted - 2008.06.20 14:49:00 - [60] HRm... I thought rule No. 1 was "Dont fly what you cant afford to lose". Rule No. 2 was "Dont trust anyone".
Shanur Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.06.20 15:02:00 - [61] Wow. A posting history of only 2 threads, and the first one does indeed date back to 2005. I guess if you are socially dysfunctional enough, it really is possible to play EVE without ever learning about the "unrestricted interraction with consequences" aspect (meaning anyone can do anything to you they think they can get away with or are willing to bear the consequences of). Welcome to the endgame of EVE . And i thought i was reclusive!
brinelan Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.06.20 15:04:00 - [62] Can I has your stuff? lol -------------------------- Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield
Stazzmo Stealth Assassins	Posted - 2008.06.20 15:14:00 - [63] Edited by: Stazzmo on 20/06/2008 15:15:29 I completely agree with the OP. Scamming is a blight to humanity, CCP should be ashamed of themselves to allow people to take from others or to prey on the weak-minded. And on a related note, i'm glad i was able to help that poor Nigerian doctor who needed someone to help him transfer $500,000 in medical benefits out of his country that his evil government was trying to take from him. That poor man and those poor people. I mean, that $5,000 transfer fee was a small price to pay to help someone out. And he said i would get it back. I mean, why would anyone not trust a doctor? Especially one that has risked his life to help others. Also, i'd get a percentage as a "finder's fee!" Hooray! But if you don't get any satisfaction from CCP, cancel your account and never come back! That will show them you are unhappy for wasting 4 years of time and effort. Don't let CCP and the filthy scammers of EVE win! I dream of electric sheep.
DarthGeddes	Posted - 2008.06.20 22:13:00 - [64] I'd rather play in a sandbox than a controlled environment... I remember runescape (I know, it sucks, please don't flame me) when they limited money gain and loss to 3k every 15mins. So nobody could get scammed.. but nobody could give presents to friends and all forms of buy/ sell profits were gone. One big grind-a-thon. DG.
Elora Narst	Posted - 2008.06.21 14:09:00 - [65] Originally by: Sergeant Spot Obvious troll Eve has some really really stupid people playing, but NO ONE could possibly be stupid enough to play for four YEARS and not know that in game scams are legal. I know many folks will disagree, but some things are simply beyond the power of human stupidity. Sadly, this guy is NOT a troll. He is for real. How do I know? I am the scammer who got him. It was a very, very small scam too: I have used a Freeform contract to get 45M from him. Supposedly, for a Caldari Navy Cruise Launcher. After I have failed the contract, and the OP has realized something is wrong, the following conversation ensued (slightly redacted): [ 2008.06.20 05:03:45 ] Preditorian > hey [ 2008.06.20 05:03:49 ] Preditorian > sry about this [ 2008.06.20 05:03:57 ] Preditorian > i dont see the launcher [ 2008.06.20 05:04:06 ] Elora Narst > you, sir, have been had [ 2008.06.20 05:04:16 ] Preditorian > had? [ 2008.06.20 05:04:40 ] Elora Narst > ummm [ 2008.06.20 05:04:49 ] Elora Narst > your wealth has been redistributed [ 2008.06.20 05:04:51 ] Preditorian > ur kidding me [ 2008.06.20 05:05:18 ] Elora Narst > you tell me [ 2008.06.20 05:05:26 ] Elora Narst > 45m gone, no launcher [ 2008.06.20 05:05:36 ] Elora Narst > I guess not [ 2008.06.20 05:06:10 ] Preditorian > how low ppl can be... [ 2008.06.20 05:06:24 ] Elora Narst > I want to thank you on the behalf of ELNST Wealth Redistribution Service [ 2008.06.20 05:07:32 ] Preditorian > Why do it? [ 2008.06.20 05:07:57 ] Elora Narst > ummm - what do you think the answer would be? [ 2008.06.20 05:07:59 ] Elora Narst > ISK [ 2008.06.20 05:08:09 ] Elora Narst > that's why [ 2008.06.20 05:09:43 ] Elora Narst > oh, and I did not even pwn you - you have pwnt yourself [ 2008.06.20 05:10:00 ] Elora Narst > the good ol Freeform gives you aaample warnings [ 2008.06.20 05:10:22 ] Preditorian > that it does [ 2008.06.20 05:10:39 ] Elora Narst > so why did you accept? [ 2008.06.20 05:10:52 ] Preditorian > First time using contracts [ 2008.06.20 05:11:11 ] Elora Narst > First time pwnt.... Happens [ 2008.06.20 05:11:22 ] Elora Narst > will probably happen again, too [ 2008.06.20 05:11:28 ] Preditorian > no it wont [ 2008.06.20 05:11:39 ] Elora Narst > not with freeform, but there are other... techniques :) [ 2008.06.20 05:12:06 ] Preditorian > dont matter, since i will never do a contract, only trade at location [ 2008.06.20 05:12:34 ] Elora Narst > LOL [ 2008.06.20 05:12:44 ] Preditorian > cant get around that [ 2008.06.20 05:12:45 ] Elora Narst > well, I can still scam that way [ 2008.06.20 05:12:50 ] Elora Narst > sure I can [ 2008.06.20 05:12:55 ] Preditorian > how? [ 2008.06.20 05:13:02 ] Elora Narst > 25% of my scams rely on direct trade [ 2008.06.20 05:13:15 ] Preditorian > interesting [ 2008.06.20 05:13:26 ] Elora Narst > nah, you want to know too much :) Not disclosing trade secrets [ 2008.06.20 05:13:38 ] Elora Narst > but I scam on station trade a-plenty [ 2008.06.20 05:14:28 ] Preditorian > A secret is still a secret if the other does not tell [ 2008.06.20 05:14:40 ] Elora Narst > lol [ 2008.06.20 05:15:02 ] Elora Narst > just an advice for you... always check item info [ 2008.06.20 05:15:09 ] Elora Narst > right-click, get info [ 2008.06.20 05:15:11 ] Elora Narst > always [ 2008.06.20 05:15:28 ] Preditorian > i did [ 2008.06.20 05:15:33 ] Preditorian > what did i miss? [ 2008.06.20 05:15:39 ] Elora Narst > with Freeform? [ 2008.06.20 05:15:42 ] Elora Narst > the warning [ 2008.06.20 05:15:48 ] Preditorian > freeform? [ 2008.06.20 05:16:54 ] Elora Narst > with station trade there are ways to distract your attention while I substitute an inferior item [ 2008.06.20 05:17:01 ] Elora Narst > say, a BPC for a BPO
Elora Narst	Posted - 2008.06.21 14:11:00 - [66] [ 2008.06.20 05:17:37 ] Elora Narst > just check info every time, all the time [ 2008.06.20 05:18:14 ] Preditorian > What else should i look for? [ 2008.06.20 05:18:53 ] Elora Narst > <----- this [ 2008.06.20 05:19:20 ] Elora Narst > primarily, READ [ 2008.06.20 05:20:33 ] Preditorian > guess ill just have a trusted friend get me stuff [ 2008.06.20 05:20:58 ] Elora Narst > he can also be scamz0red [ 2008.06.20 05:21:51 ] Preditorian > doubt it [ 2008.06.20 05:22:11 ] Elora Narst > lol - you would be surprised [ 2008.06.20 05:23:18 ] Preditorian > well i must say, i will likely quit EVE anyway from this [ 2008.06.20 05:23:34 ] Elora Narst > 0.o [ 2008.06.20 05:23:43 ] Elora Narst > people lost billions to me [ 2008.06.20 05:23:51 ] Elora Narst > I doubt they quit [ 2008.06.20 05:24:01 ] Preditorian > ya but those were ppl who can make money [ 2008.06.20 05:24:08 ] Elora Narst > ummm [ 2008.06.20 05:24:14 ] Elora Narst > making money is, like, easy [ 2008.06.20 05:24:16 ] Preditorian > i cant figure out how to make money [ 2008.06.20 05:24:29 ] Elora Narst > trade [ 2008.06.20 05:24:31 ] Elora Narst > easy [ 2008.06.20 05:24:41 ] Elora Narst > buy low, then resell [ 2008.06.20 05:24:41 ] Preditorian > that 45 mil is everything from 4 years of play, so yeah i dont know how to make it [ 2008.06.20 05:24:51 ] Elora Narst > 4 YEARS????? [ 2008.06.20 05:25:02 ] Elora Narst > and you were buying a LAUNCHER with it? [ 2008.06.20 05:25:08 ] Elora Narst > are you SERIOUS? [ 2008.06.20 05:25:09 ] Preditorian > yes [ 2008.06.20 05:25:20 ] Elora Narst > and why did you need a launcher? [ 2008.06.20 05:25:23 ] Elora Narst > just one? [ 2008.06.20 05:25:25 ] Preditorian > i wanted to get my raven with all CN cruise [ 2008.06.20 05:25:39 ] Elora Narst > ah, then 45M is not ALL you have [ 2008.06.20 05:25:44 ] Elora Narst > you have 6 more launchers [ 2008.06.20 05:25:46 ] Preditorian > cuz i found 2 and wanted to start to get all of em [ 2008.06.20 05:25:55 ] Elora Narst > or 2... [ 2008.06.20 05:25:58 ] Elora Narst > and a Raveen [ 2008.06.20 05:26:20 ] Preditorian > exactly [ 2008.06.20 05:26:47 ] Elora Narst > well, you are rich [ 2008.06.20 05:26:54 ] Elora Narst > sell the Raveen and launchers [ 2008.06.20 05:26:57 ] Elora Narst > buy stuff [ 2008.06.20 05:26:59 ] Elora Narst > resell [ 2008.06.20 05:27:06 ] Elora Narst > it ain't hard ........................ [ 2008.06.20 05:29:46 ] Elora Narst > if you are quitting EVE - can I have your stuff? [ 2008.06.20 05:30:10 ] Preditorian > no i will delete it [ 2008.06.20 05:30:30 ] Preditorian > sry im not going to give my stuff to the reason for leavingh [ 2008.06.20 05:30:31 ] Elora Narst > 0.o [ 2008.06.20 05:30:32 ] Preditorian > leaving
Elora Narst	Posted - 2008.06.21 14:13:00 - [67] Edited by: Elora Narst on 21/06/2008 14:14:24 [ 2008.06.20 05:30:40 ] Elora Narst > LOL [ 2008.06.20 05:30:49 ] Elora Narst > give your stuff to my alt then [ 2008.06.20 05:30:57 ] Elora Narst > my alt is innocent [ 2008.06.20 05:31:15 ] Preditorian > do you honestly think that will happen? [ 2008.06.20 05:31:17 ] Elora Narst > he is my alter ego [ 2008.06.20 05:31:22 ] Elora Narst > of course! [ 2008.06.20 05:31:35 ] Elora Narst > I believe in humanist principles [ 2008.06.20 05:31:41 ] Elora Narst > and the Wheel of Karma [ 2008.06.20 05:31:53 ] Preditorian > and yet you ripped me of all my wealth [ 2008.06.20 05:32:14 ] Elora Narst > lol - I ripped you off of a small fraction of it [ 2008.06.20 05:33:08 ] Preditorian > i got 4 mil remaining... [ 2008.06.20 05:33:15 ] Elora Narst > meh - I think you should come with cheese [ 2008.06.20 05:33:20 ] Elora Narst > really [ 2008.06.20 05:33:34 ] Elora Narst > can't you, you know, adapt? and read warnings? [ 2008.06.20 05:33:44 ] Elora Narst > you will be rich in no time [ 2008.06.20 05:33:45 ] Preditorian > its not about that [ 2008.06.20 05:33:49 ] Elora Narst > it is [ 2008.06.20 05:33:57 ] Elora Narst > you pwnt yourself [ 2008.06.20 05:34:01 ] Elora Narst > and now thou whine [ 2008.06.20 05:34:02 ] Elora Narst > :) [ 2008.06.20 05:34:21 ] Preditorian > its the fact that the GM's allow this stuff [ 2008.06.20 05:34:36 ] Elora Narst > welcome to EVE [ 2008.06.20 05:34:50 ] Elora Narst > if they were not to allow it, I would have quit [ 2008.06.20 05:35:04 ] Preditorian > Karma. [ 2008.06.20 05:35:22 ] Elora Narst > what is the point of a game where nobody can pwn you in such an epic way? [ 2008.06.20 05:35:41 ] Preditorian > if i could make money like ur saying i could care less [ 2008.06.20 05:35:52 ] Preditorian > but since i CANT, theres no point [ 2008.06.20 05:36:12 ] Elora Narst > you can't cause you are dumb. I told you HOW, and you still whine [ 2008.06.20 05:36:22 ] Elora Narst > hell, go scam someone [ 2008.06.20 05:36:30 ] Elora Narst > the same way I got you... [ 2008.06.20 05:36:46 ] Preditorian > well enjoy, bye bye Now, usually I don't post chatlogs, and I avoid posting in General Discussion. But this thread is so funny I just could not resist. Some people really do have it coming...
Thorradin State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.06.21 14:13:00 - [68] Originally by: Preditorian i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. In 4 years, you've never heard the words "The great scam", "GHSC Hit", "EIB", "Miz mothership 'sales'"...etc? 6/10 for effort, would maybe read again.
Nonym Ous Ad Astra Vexillum Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.22 11:34:00 - [69] Heh... this thread brings back memories of Ultima Online. Before publish 16, it allowed even more than EVE does now. There was actually a 'steal' skill that people could use to steal objects from other peoples' inventories, and you couldn't do anything about it! There were always tricks to prevent it from happening, of course - but nothing was foolproof. There was no safe place - there were always thieves at the banks, the cities were constantly being attacked by lizardmen and as soon as you left them there'd be PKs. And there was absolutely no better rush than the one you would get when being chased by a PKer. Even when I got killed and lost all of my armor and weapon, I'd still have a huge smile on my face because it's about the most fun you can have in the game. My very first day in the game, within minutes of my character creation, someone tried to scam me out of the Ranger Armor I got on character creation (which was apparently very valuable). I didn't fall for the scam, but minutes later the city was attacked by lizardmen which killed me, and someone else looted the Ranger Armor from my body. Did I quit then? Are you kidding? Of course not! I was having a blast. All kinds of nasty stuff happened, between the stealing, PKing and scamming but after carebear land was introduced in pub 16 and everyone moved there, the game was ruined. No more stealing, no more PKing, no more scams. Even though I never personally did any of those things, the game just wasn't the same without them and I ended up quitting not long after pub 16. So I have to say that although I absolutely despise scammers and pirates, the game just wouldn't be the same without them and I would probably quit if they were removed. The reason I started playing EVE in the first place was because of the PvP aspects. In fact, the fact that there even was a high-sec empire space originally put me off. I figured it would probably be just like UO with everyone in the high-sec space and the low- and null-sec areas completely deserted. I'm glad to see I was wrong.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.06.22 12:08:00 - [70] 45M ISK! OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar?

Nonym Ous Ad Astra Vexillum Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.23 00:19:00 - [71] Originally by: Chribba 45M ISK! OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! Yeah... I normally feel bad for people that have been scammed but this is just too funny.
Sovereign533 PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.06.23 02:24:00 - [72] Originally by: Chribba 45M ISK! OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! lol! even mr. niceguy/antiscam/trust person is laughing his butt off. THIS is hilarious. btw, Cribba, nothing personal, but i'd never trust you with a mothership ;)
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.06.23 02:30:00 - [73] Originally by: Chribba 45M ISK! OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! This. Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
MidnightMartyr Chowabunga Inc. The Fifth Race	Posted - 2008.06.23 04:15:00 - [74] Obvious troll is obvious.
Shakuul Infinitus Sapientia New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.06.23 04:25:00 - [75] Originally by: Preditorian ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. Like you said, its a game, so your loss isn't real, so stop whining.
Kaalixia	Posted - 2008.06.23 04:28:00 - [76] No way No way No way First of all, to repeatedly state the fact you've been "playing" for four years, is a red flag. I don't remind people I talk with how long I've been playing. I don't go on the forums and toss in some timeline that shows I'm a "vet". So, playing armchair psychologist here, I'm just about 100% convinced you're a bought character or account. Four years nor once heard of scams lol, this entire post has to be a set up Oh and I miss the days when you could put up a single T2 missile on contract and label it as a BPO. I'm damn glad I got in on that scam while it worked :)
Rick Thwaites Caritas.	Posted - 2008.06.23 04:30:00 - [77] Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. Originally by: Preditorian ITS A GAME That is all. --
Raymon James Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.23 04:56:00 - [78] Originally by: Rayleen Orendo Quote: i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE ...does not compute. Every time I see a coment like this I flash on the old /gu "idiot or Ebay" comics http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20010606
Ranger802004 Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.06.23 05:18:00 - [79] Originally by: Preditorian First of all, CCP needs to be down right punched in the face for allowing this into the game. ITS A GAME and they insist on letting this go and will no help the victims nor punish the people doing the scam. This is unacceptable, CCP MUST fix this crap, i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. I was told to basically get over it. Well i throw the BS flag on the field for that. I paid MY EARNED ISK threw hours of game play and im told that theres nothing do to about it. I have left EVE for this crap and for the response I got from the GM. Maybe someone at CCP will see this and then get a damn clue thats something should be done about it. ....stupidity costs....
Gosh Krux Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2008.06.23 05:20:00 - [80] Originally by: Preditorian i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE Lies. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Billy Sastard Life. Universe. Everything.	Posted - 2008.06.23 05:57:00 - [81] If that OP is not a troll, then EVE is a better place without this person... -=^=-
Reem Fairchild Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.06.23 07:35:00 - [82] Originally by: Elora Narst [ 2008.06.20 05:10:52 ] Preditorian > First time using contracts A game mechanic that has been around for the last year and a half and he just used it for the first time. Yeah, this guy hasn't been playing for four years.
Kyra Felann Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2008.06.23 07:57:00 - [83] Originally by: Billy Sastard If that OP is not a troll, then EVE is a better place without this person... Digital Darwinism at its finest. If only he had quit without making a whining thread, it would be perfect.
Rhanna Khurin Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.06.23 08:32:00 - [84] Originally by: Estel Arador EVE investment bank Guided Hand Social Club Wow, i didnt know the eve investment bank actually made any cash. I thought that was clearly a troll joke scam than no-one would fall for it. Sometimes i really do fer for the human race...
Nethras Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.06.23 08:49:00 - [85] Originally by: Kyra Felann Originally by: Billy Sastard If that OP is not a troll, then EVE is a better place without this person... Digital Darwinism at its finest. If only he had quit without making a whining thread, it would be perfect. But then we wouldn't have this highly amusing thread - or have seen Chribba laugh at someone getting scammed cause it was a measly 45 mil Sadly, even with the long-ass chat log, this still feels like a troll... high sec missioning and high sec mining are both lucrative enough (mining mainly with high skills in it, but plenty of training time in 4 years...) that a REALLY SLOW learner playing 4 years would be able to earn more than THAT... which leaves clueless ebayer, and surely after buying a 4 year old char they would be able to buy isk, which makes 45 mil a minor nuisance... my sleep-deprived brain is telling me that's somewhere under $5 worth of isk... One of the more amusing threads to read either way, and should contribute to the piles and piles of threads that make it blindingly obvious to anyone who even glances at these forums that scamming is 100% perfectly legal in EVE.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2008.06.23 08:59:00 - [86] Originally by: Preditorian i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE Huh? These two things are contradictory. If you have been playing EVE for four years how exactly did you miss that scaming was allowed? I mean its just really hard to believe this. Hell the Dentara Rast scam made 4 or 5 video game publications awhile back. Like it was in print in gaming magazines and on almost every video game website. -Karl

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.06.23 09:04:00 - [87] Originally by: Nethras But then we wouldn't have this highly amusing thread - or have seen Chribba laugh at someone getting scammed cause it was a measly 45 mil Don't get me wrong, I am fully aware that 45M can be A LOT of ISK for some pilots (I've been there too). But a 4 year old pilot making a thread about 45M ISK is asking to get flamed. I wouldn't have commented it like that if the OP actually was a new player. Four years and 45M ISK and never heard of a scam in the scam-game of all games... Sorry for your loss, one option would be: 1. quit game for one month 2. use the fee for that month to buy a timecard 3. sell it on the forum 4. make 300M (almost 10x more than you made the past 4 years...) 5. ??? 6. profit. Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar?

Xonkra	Posted - 2008.06.23 10:10:00 - [88] poor guy, don't listen to all the trolls and that nasty chribba! i've been playing for like 2 years now and barely made 200 mil myself so i feel your pain. mail me ingame and i'll get you the guy his corpse for a small fee and i'm willing to send you 45 mil but only after i know you are honest so send me 5 mil first then i know you're legit and i'll send 50 mil back. DON'T GIVE UP !!! /ninjatroll Its great using old memes isn't it?
Zinras Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.06.23 10:39:00 - [89] Edited by: Zinras on 23/06/2008 10:40:20 Originally by: Chribba Originally by: Nethras But then we wouldn't have this highly amusing thread - or have seen Chribba laugh at someone getting scammed cause it was a measly 45 mil Don't get me wrong, I am fully aware that 45M can be A LOT of ISK for some pilots (I've been there too). But a 4 year old pilot making a thread about 45M ISK is asking to get flamed. I wouldn't have commented it like that if the OP actually was a new player. Four years and 45M ISK and never heard of a scam in the scam-game of all games... Sorry for your loss, one option would be: 1. quit game for one month 2. use the fee for that month to buy a timecard 3. sell it on the forum 4. make 300M (almost 10x more than you made the past 4 years...) 5. ??? 6. profit. Chribba's guide to saving your personal economy. Will this be out in book form or only available on the EVE forums? Also, OP must be trolling. I refuse to believe that a 4 year old character haven't heard of that stuff or have only accumulate 45M ISK in 4 years.. If OP shot a single 3000 ISK rat every day for 4 years he would have made 43.800.000 ISK. And you're seriously telling me that's all he has accomplished in 4 years? Besides, Chribba making fun of a person getting scammed in any other context would be a sign of the apocalypse and I don't see that happening just yet Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal
Turix Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.06.23 11:36:00 - [90] Welcome to EVE, be quiet and learn from your mistake. __________________________
Ryoji Tanakama Daikoku Fleet Shipyards	Posted - 2008.06.23 11:58:00 - [91] Originally by: Chribba 45M ISK! OMG THE SKY IS FALLING! See what you did? YOU SCARED CHRIBBA!!! How dare you?! HOW VERY DARE YOU?!!! ~Ryoji Tanakama
ZinderX500 RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.23 12:07:00 - [92] Originally by: Stazzmo Edited by: Stazzmo on 20/06/2008 15:15:29 I completely agree with the OP. Scamming is a blight to humanity, CCP should be ashamed of themselves to allow people to take from others or to prey on the weak-minded. And on a related note, i'm glad i was able to help that poor Nigerian doctor who needed someone to help him transfer $500,000 in medical benefits out of his country that his evil government was trying to take from him. That poor man and those poor people. I mean, that $5,000 transfer fee was a small price to pay to help someone out. And he said i would get it back. I mean, why would anyone not trust a doctor? Especially one that has risked his life to help others. Also, i'd get a percentage as a "finder's fee!" Hooray! But if you don't get any satisfaction from CCP, cancel your account and never come back! That will show them you are unhappy for wasting 4 years of time and effort. Don't let CCP and the filthy scammers of EVE win! lool _____________________ Shelley Godfrey: Have you lost your mind!? Baltar: That's an interesting question, and one I pose to myself on a regular basis.
Brunn Adeptus Astronomica	Posted - 2008.06.23 13:35:00 - [93] u played 4 years. hunh? in my first week in eve i was scamed for 2.5m for an 250k module. at the time that was a small fortune for me, so now i double(triple when tired) check every transaction i do in eve. I guess im traumatised...
Squably Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.06.23 13:38:00 - [94] Edited by: Squably on 23/06/2008 13:45:18 Originally by: Preditorian SNIP i have been playing for over 4 years and not once did i hear of scams in EVE or that the GM's dont give a rats arse about the people who fall victim to it. SNIP Sounds more like you bought an account and learned about eve the hard way. And ffs if ya have a raven GO MISSION you'll make 45 mil an hour in no time. Yeah so?!! Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Navigator ([email protected])
Kirana Si House of Lubrication	Posted - 2008.06.23 13:52:00 - [95] Originally by: Chribba 4. make 300M (almost 10x more than you made the past 4 years...) He is maybe still sucking Veld in his n00bship
SiJira	Posted - 2008.08.17 17:48:00 - [96] its not scamming its redistribution Trashed sig, Shark was here
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.17 17:51:00 - [97] Originally by: Vaal Erit Even though you've bought this character who is 4 years old . . . .welcome to EVE. fixd Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"

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