Originally by: Yakia TovilToba

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Hi, i too think that nano-ships are overpowered.

Either nanos and similar speedmods should be nerfed, or restricted to ships with a certain role (so that not every ship with few lowslots can go 3km/s+) OR there should be anti-nano modules, that actually can counter nanos in game and not only on paper.


Disclaimer: This is not a whine post but valuable customer feedback (which i give even without taking part in a sweepstakes or receiving a gift).

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Originally by: slothe

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nanos per se arent overpowered, polycarbons are objectively overpowered, just tweak polycarbs in line with other rigs and thats a good start.

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Originally by: Haru Itari

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Edited by: Haru Itari on 22/06/2008 18:43:31
Did these nanonerf threads only appear after Factional Warfare came about?
All this just sound like noobies whining about something never experienced in PvE. The game is not just about dps and tanking.

I know nanofibers were pretty overpowered before, HURF DURF 5km phoon!, but they're pretty much in line with everything else except maybe polycarbs which is why they're 40-50mil each... But from what I've seen, medium range guns on T2 cruisers rip Nanos to shreds easily with a few tracker cpus.

Another way to beat them is a few ships using Tracking Links on one specific high-alpha sniper (geddon and tempest and mega come to mind here).

Another way is possibly to use heavy webbifier drones. They have innate speed of 1.5k. Get in your domi and fit 3 drone navs and 2 sensor boosters. With good drone skills, you can use them to web the nanos that go less than 3.5km.

There's a lot of ways. I mean hell, if nothing else, have everyone fit Warrior II and just completely mob them with like 40 light drones.

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Originally by: Hastur DragonTooth

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Originally by: Dr Clay

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The irony being that we already know nano setups are undesirable side affects of being able to modify ships. Does anyone seriously believe that some of those ships are meant to move faster than AFs :p

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Nurf nano ships and HAC/Recon pilots would become as numerous in 0.0 as those AF pilots you speak of. Other than the Sac, tank setups on these ships are a bucket of fail. The only viable setup is nano.

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Originally by: Derek Sigres

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Originally by: Tenuo

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Originally by: Hastur DragonTooth

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Originally by: Dr Clay

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The irony being that we already know nano setups are undesirable side affects of being able to modify ships. Does anyone seriously believe that some of those ships are meant to move faster than AFs :p

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Nurf nano ships and HAC/Recon pilots would become as numerous in 0.0 as those AF pilots you speak of. Other than the Sac, tank setups on these ships are a bucket of fail. The only viable setup is nano.

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Yes, who tanks to tank 100 mill uninsurable ship when a BC does it better?

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And right here we have the crux of the problem: HAC'S are defined by superior mobility. BC's hit harder and absorb more punishment than a HAC could ever be expected to, with a cheaper price point and less risk.

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Originally by: Naomi Knight

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BTW overdrives/nanofibers should be tweeked , there is no reason why these modules dont use any cap/powergrid/cpu ,if ccp would chagne this then nanos couldnt fit for huge shield buffer tanks + etc .

Imho overdrives should increase mwd cap use and/or lower ships powergrid about 10% and maybe need cpu for fitting too.

Any comments are welcome :)

DIE NANOS , you can show how good you can adabt after the nerf ^^

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Originally by: Naomi Knight

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BTW overdrives/nanofibers should be tweeked , there is no reason why these modules dont use any cap/powergrid/cpu ,if ccp would chagne this then nanos couldnt fit for huge shield buffer tanks + etc .

Imho overdrives should increase mwd cap use and/or lower ships powergrid about 10% and maybe need cpu for fitting too.

Any comments are welcome :)

DIE NANOS , you can show how good you can adabt after the nerf ^^

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Originally by: Matrix Skye

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Originally by: NightmareX

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Cry noobcakes without pvp skills is also checking in

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still bitter eh? not my fault. go kiss les kunk or something.

and i wouldnt be talking about pvp skills with your record, given that it clearly shows you suck.

on topic: it wont matter whether they nerf nanos or not. players are realizing how powerful nanos are anyway and sooner or later every1 will be flying them. then you yourselves will complain on not being able to kill anything. so i say nano the **** out of everything!

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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer

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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 23/06/2008 19:30:13

Originally by: NightmareX

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If you can wait a little, then let me get some frapses from me in a Tempest against some few HAC's, it will ofc be an aranged fight. Just to stop the whining once for all. Just to prove it that it's not that hard.

Many many players have seen me in action to on sisi, so it's not a problem to get someone to confirm that it's easy to kill some few HAC's in a Battleship alone as long you are using your brain.

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No, it has to be on tranq and you know why.

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Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby

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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer

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I still would like to see any kind of vague proof of it being possible to KILL an equally sized nano gang with non nano ships. A movie, killboard, anything. You claimed only noobs need nanos to counter nanos, please show something. We all know that is not the case and if you come with claims like that you better back it up with SOMETHING.

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Go look through Battleclinic, there are hundreds of examples within a few clicks.

Here is a perfect example:
Geddon vs Vagabond

Everyone *knows* that a battle ship can't kill a nano, right? Especially the "fastest" of them. Sorry, wrong.

If you need more proof, go watch Kil2's Genesis video. Multiple examples of small gang on gang and solo vs small gang in there also.

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