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Sir Atkinson
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Sir Atkinson on 22/06/2008 18:19:08
The fleets were on either side of the gate both 50 man strong, And nothing happens??? What? why are you playing this game? Why are you in FW? Get real, you all just missed a great fight. AAARGH!
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:19:00 -
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From your post I am guessing a black hole got them.
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Sir Atkinson
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
From your post I am guessing a black hole got them.
Accidently pressed ENTER. I apologise.
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Rhanna Khurin
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:22:00 -
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A Mexican stand off eh.
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Sir Atkinson
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:25:00 -
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Well it looked bloody pathetic to me. I went to Tama in search of some action since the Amarrians aren't exactly puttimng up the fight down south... I see the great blobs and hope for some fireworks, but no... Just 2 grups of noobs looking at each other... Go back to 0.0. tbh....
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 22/06/2008 18:27:05
Originally by: Sir Atkinson
Well it looked bloody pathetic to me. I went to Tama in search of some action since the Amarrians aren't exactly puttimng up the fight down south... I see the great blobs and hope for some fireworks, but no... Just 2 grups of noobs looking at each other... Go back to 0.0. tbh....
What, no slaughter? Outrageous! Must have been two good fleet commanders - get them back to 0.0 quick!
The above is irony with some added truth and speculation. :)
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Astria Tiphareth
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:27:00 -
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Given this thread it's just possible people are being slightly more cautious....
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Arlenna Molatov
The 59th Parallel
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Atkinson
Well it looked bloody pathetic to me. I went to Tama in search of some action since the Amarrians aren't exactly puttimng up the fight down south... I see the great blobs and hope for some fireworks, but no... Just 2 grups of noobs looking at each other... Go back to 0.0. tbh....
You're minmatar? You're in the wrong area there mate.....and you're trying to tell others to go back to 0.0...kettle....and....black...
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Vakillion
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Atkinson
Edited by: Sir Atkinson on 22/06/2008 18:19:08
The fleets were on either side of the gate both 50 man strong, And nothing happens??? What? why are you playing this game? Why are you in FW? Get real, you all just missed a great fight. AAARGH!
Please stop reporting on Carebear Warfare, engage in some real pvp where the battles count instead of this arena style crap. It's nice new players and non-pvpers can get some experience with FW, but these fights are meaningless and are simply an entry point for players to get into pvp.
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Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Arlenna Molatov
Originally by: Sir Atkinson
Well it looked bloody pathetic to me. I went to Tama in search of some action since the Amarrians aren't exactly puttimng up the fight down south... I see the great blobs and hope for some fireworks, but no... Just 2 grups of noobs looking at each other... Go back to 0.0. tbh....
You're minmatar? You're in the wrong area there mate.....and you're trying to tell others to go back to 0.0...kettle....and....black...
no fine area amarr have only just started to fight back again after total domination
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Sir Atkinson
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:31:00 -
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Really...
The Caldarri blob is sitting in .8 space, so you can't really expect the Gallente fleet to jump in. Given this, the Caldari blob had all the advantages. The enemy was on the gate, but couldn't jump through obviously. The Caldari blob could have jumped and raped them instantly with missiles as noone was aligned or particularly fast. Bad FC'ing on the Caldari side IMO. The Gallenteans were vulnerable on the gate, but effectively kept Caldari out of their own territory...
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:33:00 -
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If you'r such a brave man, why didn't you engage ? Maybe the rest would have followed you in the fight.
On a more serious note, the reason might have been the fear of lag.
If the fleets are eaqual, the one who's jumping in will lose the fight, especially if the other side deploys drones.
The jumping in fleet will have ships decloaced while fleet members are still in the session change process, others will have an emergency warpout. The side who is defending can focus fire on the few who didn't have too much lag and pick targets that jump in after lag or are warping back from emergency warpout one by one.
Such cases happened in the past, so some FCs are quite cautions engaging equal numbers.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 22/06/2008 18:35:01
Originally by: Vakillion
Originally by: Sir Atkinson
Edited by: Sir Atkinson on 22/06/2008 18:19:08
The fleets were on either side of the gate both 50 man strong, And nothing happens??? What? why are you playing this game? Why are you in FW? Get real, you all just missed a great fight. AAARGH!
Please stop reporting on Carebear Warfare, engage in some real pvp where the battles count instead of this arena style crap. It's nice new players and non-pvpers can get some experience with FW, but these fights are meaningless and are simply an entry point for players to get into pvp.
so the same as 0.0 space then?
also good thing 0.0 warfare is moving over the factional warfare timer system, muhahahaha cry opver it.
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Vakillion
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Vakillion
Originally by: Sir Atkinson
Edited by: Sir Atkinson on 22/06/2008 18:19:08
The fleets were on either side of the gate both 50 man strong, And nothing happens??? What? why are you playing this game? Why are you in FW? Get real, you all just missed a great fight. AAARGH!
Please stop reporting on Carebear Warfare, engage in some real pvp where the battles count instead of this arena style crap. It's nice new players and non-pvpers can get some experience with FW, but these fights are meaningless and are simply an entry point for players to get into pvp.
so the same as 0.0 space then?
In 0.0 you have to maintain your own outposts, manage your own shipping chains to keep POS's fueled and construct ships and modules. You have to manage politics, defend your space and take over more when you desire it, carefully balancing how much you and your allies are capable of defending with the potential gains. Entire systems of government and economy are created to meet the needs of the fragile environment...
So is FW the same as 0.0? Well, everything revolves around NPC stations and NPC corps, no player involvement, everyone can hop over to their trade hub in an instant whenever they need something, the contested points being fought over are meaningless and don't benefit the victors in any major way...
Tldr: You are completely wrong.
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Rhanna Khurin
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:48:00 -
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Actually this sounds like some diplomacy has reared its head. Maybe Both fleet commanders have realised that shooting each other solves nothing and had a nice cup of tea with some biscuits.
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Armoured C
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 22/06/2008 18:57:26
Edited by: Armoured C on 22/06/2008 18:57:13
Originally by: Rhanna Khurin
Actually this sounds like some diplomacy has reared its head. Maybe Both fleet commanders have realised that shooting each other solves nothing and had a nice cup of tea with some biscuits.
they better be hobnobs
they ROCK EXTREMEEEEEEEEEEEE  
if you say that gallente has caldari stuck in there own sapce then it was the caldari that needed to push forwards since they need to get into low sec .... why would gallente need to move into caldari high sec when they dont need to, caldari need to move into low sec and so gallente had the higher ground
Gallente win
the end... now that was a nice bed time story
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.06.22 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Vakillion
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Vakillion
Originally by: Sir Atkinson
Edited by: Sir Atkinson on 22/06/2008 18:19:08
The fleets were on either side of the gate both 50 man strong, And nothing happens??? What? why are you playing this game? Why are you in FW? Get real, you all just missed a great fight. AAARGH!
Please stop reporting on Carebear Warfare, engage in some real pvp where the battles count instead of this arena style crap. It's nice new players and non-pvpers can get some experience with FW, but these fights are meaningless and are simply an entry point for players to get into pvp.
so the same as 0.0 space then?
In 0.0 you have to maintain your own outposts, manage your own shipping chains to keep POS's fueled and construct ships and modules. You have to manage politics, defend your space and take over more when you desire it, carefully balancing how much you and your allies are capable of defending with the potential gains. Entire systems of government and economy are created to meet the needs of the fragile environment...
So is FW the same as 0.0? Well, everything revolves around NPC stations and NPC corps, no player involvement, everyone can hop over to their trade hub in an instant whenever they need something, the contested points being fought over are meaningless and don't benefit the victors in any major way...
Tldr: You are completely wrong.
No but the PvP part is the same. What your saying is 0.0 is full of advanced politics, trade routes, Sov, building of your own allaince markets.
The PvP is however the same, you fly out, you take over space, you manage your ships and modules, you take over space you push and pull territory.
So yes it's 0.0 lite. But this doesn't make the PvP fake, it's not an anera style combat system it's the same as any empire war before it but with a small sov system and a free war dec. And nothing is wrong with that, it's fun.
Players coming out of FW will know how to fight in 0.0 specially with the changes coming to 0.0 warfare with the timer system. relax FW is just training people in a space where there are normally running empire markets to provide ships instead of having to actully understand logistics.
So don't bash it's PvP just call it PvP for people that want it easy :P
I hate these posting saying it's fake PvP, which honestly it's an internet spaceship game, it's ALL FAKE.
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Oliver Everett
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Posted - 2008.06.22 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Vakillion
So is FW the same as 0.0? Well, everything revolves around NPC stations and NPC corps, no player involvement, everyone can hop over to their trade hub in an instant whenever they need something, the contested points being fought over are meaningless and don't benefit the victors in any major way...
Tldr: You are completely wrong.
Vak you're right, if people want more meaningful pvp (which in turn requires many many hours of their time to defend poses/take part in defense operations) then 0.0 is their goal. However if they'd like to engage in fun, quick n dirty pvp (with little commitments) FW seems to be their avenue. Theres little reward at the moment in FW other than well ... fun.
At the end of the day things go boom and people have fun, Is that so evil ?
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.06.22 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Atkinson
Edited by: Sir Atkinson on 22/06/2008 18:19:08
The fleets were on either side of the gate both 50 man strong, And nothing happens??? What? why are you playing this game? Why are you in FW? Get real, you all just missed a great fight. AAARGH!
Equal sized fleets you say? Both FC's must have been ex-SACK.
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CommmanderInChief
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2008.06.22 20:33:00 -
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This is the norm! Inexperienced FCs not used to large battles. It annoys the hell outta me that you have a fleet of WTs just moving around at will.
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PR0D AK71V
Mad Hamster Infestation
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Posted - 2008.06.22 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: CommmanderInChief
This is the norm! Inexperienced FCs not used to large battles. It annoys the hell outta me that you have a fleet of WTs just moving around at will.
cause that: 'they've got bigger blob than we do... let's wait till more people x up' attitude is so different to 0.0
oh... wait (?)
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2008.06.22 21:04:00 -
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Lag?
DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale!
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Hae t'Redd
Ishukone Black Watch
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Posted - 2008.06.22 21:07:00 -
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The problem is that no one in the State Militia forms and goes through other gates into Black Rise except Tama. So the Gallente just come to Tama and sit on the gate. Then nothing happens, other than a few noobs jump through and get killed, and the Federation KB gets padded a little more.
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Armoured C
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.22 21:16:00 -
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and padded it is :)
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Natasha Zenith
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.22 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
and padded it is :)
True, I only have something like 20 kills on your Boards. 
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Artemis Rose
Eleckrostatik
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Posted - 2008.06.22 21:47:00 -
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There wasn't a numerical advantage so of course nobody engaged. What do you expect a blobber is? Brave?
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Sir Atkinson
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.06.22 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
If you'r such a brave man, why didn't you engage ? Maybe the rest would have followed you in the fight.
I did and I died horribly
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.22 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Atkinson
Edited by: Sir Atkinson on 22/06/2008 18:19:08
The fleets were on either side of the gate both 50 man strong, And nothing happens??? What? why are you playing this game? Why are you in FW? Get real, you all just missed a great fight. AAARGH!
You must be new at this whole fleet fight thing...
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Yarr2K
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.23 03:57:00 -
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What I find amusing is after talking to all the FW gang mates I've run across the consensus is that no one cares about what people say on the forums.
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Qaedel
Federal Noob Mercs
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Posted - 2008.06.23 04:56:00 -
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I think you guys are reading a little too much into it. As far as the Gallente fleets I've been in go, we just want fights. Even if they are against the odds. We're not really concerned with holding the field afterwards, etc... because it's meaningless.
Even the fight with EXE that was called a "massacre" didn't bother us. We had the fleet reformed and heading back before EXE and RA finished.
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Falcon Troy
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.23 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Vakillion
Originally by: Sir Atkinson
Edited by: Sir Atkinson on 22/06/2008 18:19:08
The fleets were on either side of the gate both 50 man strong, And nothing happens??? What? why are you playing this game? Why are you in FW? Get real, you all just missed a great fight. AAARGH!
Please stop reporting on Carebear Warfare, engage in some real pvp where the battles count instead of this arena style crap. It's nice new players and non-pvpers can get some experience with FW, but these fights are meaningless and are simply an entry point for players to get into pvp.
You're right. Real fleet warfare isn't getting two 100-man fleets facing each other and pressing all the F buttons.
Those silly noobs and their fake PvP. Wait,
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jameszhao55
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.23 07:05:00 -
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The Caldari fleet didn't jump in because of a Red Alliance presence in Tama. The fact that the RA CEO declared in Tama local that they're allied with the Gallente coupled with the fact that their whole battleship fleet is at a safespot aligned to the Nourv gate makes the decision to not jump in obvious. Also there was worries about capital hotdrops.
The following is the RA fleet composition (Copied from militia chat. May not be totally accurate). Remember the gallentes also had a separate fleet.
2x Abaddon, 1x Apoc, 1x Astarte, 1x BBird, 2x Broadsword, 1x Cerb, 1x Damation, 2x Deimos, 1x Domi, 5x Drake, 3x Eos, 2x Hurricane, 2x Ishtar, 3x Mega, 1x Onyx, 4x Raven, 1x Rokh, 2x Sac, 1x Scorp, 1x Slep, 3x Tempest, 2x Typhoon, 1x Vaga, 1x Vulture, 2x Zealot
We had mostly caracals and drakes. You can probably understand why we didn't jump in.
Please do not speculate randomly/be a rumor monger :)
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AKULA UrQuan
Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.23 07:34:00 -
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Should've jumped in and then went "Ctrl+Q". 
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Falcon Troy
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.23 07:43:00 -
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Sweet. RA finally decided to try and get their balls back. This could be interesting.
/me hops in his bs and rolls out.
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Sarin Adler
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.23 08:41:00 -
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So all the 'alliances not being involved in FW' is gone as RA are 'officially' Gallente allies now... excellent. Now time for our militia to become organised and start playing right.
There is any forum or whatever where we can plan things?
p.s: joined yesterday for the fun :D
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Rhanna Khurin
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.23 08:52:00 -
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Could be interesting if certain Militia groups had Alliance alies. Would bring in a whole new element.. almost like.. real pvp.
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Sarin Adler
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.23 09:41:00 -
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Stop that 'real pvp crap' lol, player versus player = players killing each other. Addigt stupid 'important' virtual objectives does not make it more real, it still is virtual.
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jameszhao55
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.23 15:38:00 -
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I don't believe alliances will ally with factions for long. All it takes is for some idiots/spies in gallente to shoot the RA fleet to end this informal alliance.
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Anton Marx
Warhamsters
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.06.23 16:17:00 -
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tbh, it sounds like the RA FC (yeah what do you mean by the RA CEO??) was just bluffing, and you fell for it ;P
wasn't there though, just speculating.
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jameszhao55
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.23 16:38:00 -
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The RA may be bluffing, but we still want to be on the safe side. Jumping in and getting massacred by RA/Gallente is not good.
Also this guy claiming to be the RA CEO is in fact in RA, so o_O
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