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Dalek Commander	Posted - 2008.06.23 18:41:00 - [31] On a very good day I can make about 50mil an hour ratting in the drone regions (alloys + salvage). That's after corp and alliance taxes. Normally I average about 20-25mil an hour since pruning belts to get a good 3x BS spawn takes time. This is using just 1 account... I've seen people use a carrier and alts to salvage/haul, and they can *****a whole system of belts at a time...
Amastat Omegatech	Posted - 2008.06.23 20:14:00 - [32] From the sounds of everythign said in this thread - there is no such thing as a true-pirate, or a true-pvp'er - or at least very few are. Gotta carebear, pve, at some point or another - so that makes all of us Yarr-Bears I guess ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu
Apoctasy The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.06.23 20:42:00 - [33] Originally by: Larkonis Trassler Suicide ganking. Ransoms. Smartbombing shuttles en route to Jita full of implants/BPOs/Cap skill books. This.
Eemaavi	Posted - 2008.06.23 20:47:00 - [34] Trade Alts, Industry Alts, suicide ganking and some PvP. If in 0.0, add Plex Farming, Ratting, Officer Spawns and the occasional Moon Mining POS. Yeah I'm an Alt- Go cry elswhere
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.06.23 21:41:00 - [35] Originally by: Haakelen Originally by: Alora Venoda Originally by: Haakelen a friend of mine makes freighters by logging in once a week and pulls 3-4 bil every few days. how? does he mine truckloads of minerals, or does he buy the minerals/components to build them? and isn't the manufacturing time on a freighter like at least a week? but i suppose if he had multiple freighter BPO's he could build more than one at a time... I don't know the details (he won't tell me all of it lol), but I know he has at least 4 freighter BPOs. I've built Freighters 10 day to 12 days to build a Freighter (depending on how well the BPO is researched). At best, maybe 200mil profit per ship, probably more like 100mil. so..... Assuming 8 BPOs running 24/7, at 10 days per cycle and 200mil profit per ship... 160mil profit a day. 4.8 bil per month. My hunch is that profit is a lot less. Play nice while you butcher each other.
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.06.23 21:55:00 - [36] i just try to avoid getting killed so much
Riho Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.06.23 22:04:00 - [37] invention for a few hours of doing some stuff semi afk... i get enough to not worry about any isk. usually i just invest my proffits back into the invention / manufactoring as i just dont need the liquid isk. i got about 30 pvp fitted ships ready for anything :P hacs/recons/BS/command ships etc. if you are smart whit your money... you can multiply it very fast :) ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Kale Kold Vicious Little Killers	Posted - 2008.06.23 23:08:00 - [38] Edited by: Kale Kold on 23/06/2008 23:08:41 Originally by: zenia starwalker how the heck do they make all this isk to afford all these uber set ups? Running mish will not keep you in these uber setups ship after ship, and I cannot picture you in a hulk mining for days on end, and you certainly do not get that kind of isk salvaging wrecks, if you have time. So how do you make isk? Basically, we blow people's ships up and sell the loot/cargo and we are completely self sufficient in doing so. We never mine, run missions, etc.
supr3m3justic3 ACE'S OVER 8'S The Kano Organisation	Posted - 2008.06.23 23:09:00 - [39] I pimp my self out on the corner of 4-4 in jita
sg3s O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.23 23:13:00 - [40] It's really simple actually: You make ISK by using any method in the game which has over 10m/h. I can spend 20hrs or doing that then buy a 200m ship... THEN THE BEST PART COMES You just DO NOT DIE in a nanoship.... if you know what you're doing that is... The only time I've lost a nanoship was becouse my PC crapped out on me.

Duraj	Posted - 2008.06.23 23:25:00 - [41] Edited by: Duraj on 23/06/2008 23:26:27 Go to amarr space, preferably the amarr system. look up the buy orders for all weaponry for that region. The buy orders go for something like 100-300 isk a unit. Next, look at the SELL orders of these same guns. 50,000-300,000 isk a unit. thats a 5000% profit. thats how its done, and Im sure its not just isolated to any one region.. basically, the newbie mission runners always get screwed, to support the nanofleetards.
FORD ESC0RT State War Academy	Posted - 2008.06.23 23:28:00 - [42] They die 1% of the time by flying nanos all the time.
Rhanna Khurin Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.06.23 23:39:00 - [43] I just drink booze and mine roids.
Dorah Hawkwing Armada.	Posted - 2008.06.23 23:41:00 - [44] Lvl 4 missions, loot, salvage, sell modules, sell salvage, have several agents gimme datacores, produce things no NPC produces, sell those in a good market corner, make a few guesses at market, ferry tags to the area where they sell better.. etc. Nothing in itself is a huge profit, but overall the money flows to support my level of gameplay. Diversity, I think, is the game called.
Roguehalo RH Ship Brokers	Posted - 2008.06.23 23:46:00 - [45] Arms dealing ftw!!
DeadDuck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.23 23:51:00 - [46] I mission/build/sell... when I'm in need of some isks. ________________ God is my Wingman
The Crushah Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.06.23 23:53:00 - [47] Originally by: Dorah Hawkwing Lvl 4 missions, loot, salvage, sell modules, sell salvage, have several agents gimme datacores, produce things no NPC produces, sell those in a good market corner, make a few guesses at market, ferry tags to the area where they sell better.. etc. Nothing in itself is a huge profit, but overall the money flows to support my level of gameplay. Diversity, I think, is the game called. It depends on where you mission run. In some places, the LP's are far more profitable than the loot/salvage. I run missions with two characters and my goal is to tear through the missions as fast as possible leaving the loot salvage behind.
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.06.24 00:02:00 - [48] Comrades! Wake up to the facts! The Bourgoise Rulers of Eve make up LESS then one percent of Eve pilots. They run the major alliances of zero space and own and control the major moon mining operations and useful T2BPOs in Eve, which funds THEIR pvp and the fleets they use to defend their isk sources. The rest of you peasants are allowed to do only two other things in Eve. Either you continue to scratch out a peasants existance in empire, which serves the Bourgoise Elite's purposes as it provides them with cheap minerals from the loot you dump from missions... or you go to zero WITH THEIR PERMISSION to serve as cannon-fodder (often paid for by YOU thru ratting and rental payments you make to them for the privilege) to defend their assets in zero. WHAT A JOKE HAS BEEN PLAYED UPON YOU! IT IS NO WONDER THEY ARE LAUGHING! BUT IT IS TIME FOR A NEW ERA! THE NEW E.R.A.! EVE REVOLUTIONARY ARMY For more information contact Ira Theos
Grath Telkin Evolving Paradigms	Posted - 2008.06.24 00:26:00 - [49] Ford Escort sounding like an idiot again, nice. Seriously, never sold a GTC, though i buy alot. Isk is pretty simple, once you find a nice niche where you can bank a good bit. Through freighters, multiple invention alts (though its shrunk alot, the t2 invention profits used to be pretty high). Mission running on an alt or main can generate large sums of cash (look at all the friggin faction fit CNR's). Basically we've all found an easy way that were comfortable doing alot, and we do it. Oh, and Ford is an asshat, 1% my left nut. Check a killboard sometime dbag.
doctorstupid2 The Accursed	Posted - 2008.06.24 00:35:00 - [50] Originally by: zenia starwalker So how do you make isk? I beat people up and take their ****. And I don't nano a damned thing, for the record. Hell, even my 'ceptors are fit for damage Nostalgia \| Deadspace2 \| Deadspace

Leowen Industrial Giants	Posted - 2008.06.24 00:44:00 - [51] Originally by: Comrade Commizzar Edited by: Comrade Commizzar on 24/06/2008 00:09:57 Comrades! Wake up to the facts! The Bourgoise Rulers of Eve make up LESS then one percent of Eve pilots. They run the major alliances of zero space and own and control the major moon mining operations and useful T2BPOs in Eve, which funds THEIR pvp and the fleets they use to defend their isk sources. The rest of you peasants are allowed to do only two things in Eve. Either you continue to scratch out a peasants existence in empire, which serves the Bourgoise Elite's purposes as it provides them with cheap minerals from the loot you dump from missions... or you go to zero WITH THEIR PERMISSION to serve as cannon-fodder (often paid for by YOU thru ratting and rental payments you make to them for the privilege) to defend their assets in zero. WHAT A JOKE HAS BEEN PLAYED UPON YOU! IT IS NO WONDER THEY ARE LAUGHING! BUT IT IS TIME FOR A NEW ERA! THE NEW E.R.A.! EVE REVOLUTIONARY ARMY For more information contact Ira Theos We, the Bourgoise Rulers of EVE chuckle at your inadequacy. Leo
Comrade Commizzar	Posted - 2008.06.24 00:53:00 - [52] You didn't laugh when Goon Swarm showed up.... and you won't be laughing when Peasant Swarm shows up either...
Kagura Nikon Infinity Enterprises	Posted - 2008.06.24 02:01:00 - [53] Why do you say missiosn won 't do it? If you run level 4 missiosn in an efficient way whiel looting and salvaging you can EASILY make 30 mil per hour. A single saturday afternoon runnign missions can pay for a lot of stuff... ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Synapse Archae Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.06.24 02:05:00 - [54] 0.0 Ratting. If I rat for 1 hour each day for a month, I can afford two losses that month and break even, maybe a little less. Most nano pilots I know are perpetually broke. It doesnt take much loss-wise to hurt our pocket books, and breaking even in a battle where you lose even one ship can be difficult. - - - Originally by: CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.06.24 02:17:00 - [55] mission run: isk goes to buying gtcs loot/salvage goes to fitting new ships I have quite a few battleships now
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.06.24 02:19:00 - [56] Originally by: Forum Monster Originally by: Kale Kold Edited by: Kale Kold on 23/06/2008 23:08:41 Originally by: zenia starwalker how the heck do they make all this isk to afford all these uber set ups? Running mish will not keep you in these uber setups ship after ship, and I cannot picture you in a hulk mining for days on end, and you certainly do not get that kind of isk salvaging wrecks, if you have time. So how do you make isk? Basically, we blow people's ships up and sell the loot/cargo and we are completely self sufficient in doing so. We never mine, run missions, etc. ...yea maybe you should learn to fly ur onyx first emo..lol ur a gtc seller admit it. Their isn't one person in eve that can only profit from pvp and if you say you have ur lyin. The reason I don't believe you is blobs destroy everyone they come across, I don't care how good you think you are..ur gonna get blobbed once in a while. If I didn't have to buy gtcs I could very well do this
Bellum Eternus D00M.	Posted - 2008.06.24 02:28:00 - [57] Originally by: zenia starwalker So ive seen all these nano this anti nano that threads and I have come to one conclusion. Nano's are expensive, Ive seen nano setups upwards of a billion, and Ive seen anti nano set ups that are vary expensive as well. This got me wondering, all these guys are great pvpers, which im not, how the heck do they make all this isk to afford all these uber set ups? Running mish will not keep you in these uber setups ship after ship, and I cannot picture you in a hulk mining for days on end, and you certainly do not get that kind of isk salvaging wrecks, if you have time. So how do you make isk? Far beyond normal players, in the rarified air of expert PVPers, there lies the overclass: Pirates. These are players that are so good, they actually make all of their ISK through killing other players. I know it's a crazy concept, but it's true. I start to feel poor when I have less than a few bill in liquid ISK. IMO a true pirate never has to mission or mine or do any of the usual stuff to make ISK other than kill people and take their stuff. The sad thing is, it's becoming harder and harder to be a successful pirate, as ship module prices (T2) have dropped a great deal, plus the introduction of WTZ and numerous other changes that have made Eve a much easier place for the stupid and inept to survive. Eve will continue down this path, with no new changes benefitting players like pirates. Every change from here on out will continue to water down the combat environment. So yeah. How do I make my ISK? By killing people. Lots of them. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y COLLECTION Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Blitz'Krieg SkyMarshal Logistics	Posted - 2008.06.24 02:29:00 - [58] i think a lot of players now have started buying hulk alts. you get a couple of them and your set.
JafoPBCFR	Posted - 2008.06.24 02:42:00 - [59] i make mine selling Gallen slaves to the amarr.
doctorstupid2 The Accursed	Posted - 2008.06.24 03:53:00 - [60] Originally by: Forum Monster Their isn't one person in eve that can only profit from pvp and if you say you have ur lyin. At the risk of stating the obvious in the aftermath of your typing; you're an idiot. Nostalgia \| Deadspace2 \| Deadspace



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