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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.06.23 17:55:00 -
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Here goes yet another summery for your favorite smack tards, I would like to say this was an official contract but in reality it was an exercise to test the capability of the new recruits.
Our initial plans were to play in P3 but the locals quickly faded back to their rat dens which left us unfulfilled. So the decision was made to move the group to Hydras home system.
Initially Hydra put up some great fights even though they seemed to like fighting with the security blanket of being able to dock. They tried spider tanking and failed, they tried interceptor gangs and failed, they tried blobbing and failed, they tried "avoiding us like the plague" and failed.
Over all they seem to be a shadow of their former selves, while they were never capable opponents at least in the past they would do whatever it took to get the message accross. In the end all they did was just do their best at pretending we didn't hold their alliances biggest system hostage for about a week.
What we learned from our week and 2 days in Hydra space.
AndyJ belongs no where near a battleship, or a POS :D. Evil Pookie is a grumpy fart(wait we knew that already). Plays too much WoW, and likes to loose ships to obvious mistakes. Reaver has a sleeping disorder Angor is a far better battleship pilot than tackler Sha'blach only has recon level 4 and can almost perma jam anything(wtf).
And last but not least Sophistacated is a douche, and soon to be a BoB member.
Now on to the stats. Killed Assault ships 7 BC 19 BS 51 Pods 92 Combat Recon 7 Command 4 Cov ops 9 Cruiser 31 Destroyer 2 Electronic attack 5 Force recon 20 Frigs 11 Hacs 19 Hictors 8 Indy's 17 Ceptor 39 Dictors 6 Logistics 1 barge 1 Stealth rubbish bins 11
Losses BS-6 AndyJ is the winner here 3 in about a week woot, Evil gave him a run but only managed 2. Pods 2 see above Electronic attack 1 Dictors 3
We will have a new Hydra soundboard shortly with some terrific new battle cries.
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Shadoo
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.23 18:06:00 -
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Nice stats as always!
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.23 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Cippalippus Primus on 23/06/2008 18:06:17 Well I guess I'll break the ice with the first post for you. (edit: damn shadoo)
How's shin ra doing btw? -clp
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Carin K
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.23 18:11:00 -
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were any 4kms ravens involved in the stat collecting? If so <3 to you guys (as always)
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.06.23 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Evil Pookie on 23/06/2008 18:14:46 Evil Pookie is a grumpy old fart(wait we knew that already). Plays too much AoC, and likes to loose ships to obvious mistakes.
'edited for correctness'
Wait, grumpy old fart, why you! /me waves walking cane around furiously
And yes sophisticatedlimabean is truely a doucebag of epic proportions..... he should fit right in at bobos used titan emporium.
Shin Ra? name sounds familiar but I dont know why.....
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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.06.23 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Carin K were any 4kms ravens involved in the stat collecting? If so <3 to you guys (as always)
No 4km sec ravens were used , but we did use a 10k/sec CNR .
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Dungar Loghoth
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.23 18:17:00 -
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That's a lot less mining barges killed than I would have guessed. ---
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Carin K
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.23 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Carin K were any 4kms ravens involved in the stat collecting? If so <3 to you guys (as always)
No 4km sec ravens were used , but we did use a 10k/sec CNR .
Wildcat? :)
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SpitfireVI
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Posted - 2008.06.23 18:33:00 -
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Eh, this tactic is always easy if to do if you have someone listening in on voice coms...
Nice stats but realy not impressed, sorry.
Spitfire.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.06.23 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: Evil Pookie on 23/06/2008 18:40:21
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth That's a lot less mining barges killed than I would have guessed.
Your such a horrible poaster dungar..... Everyone knows that you kill the indy on its way to empire full of mins, not the mining barge.....
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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.06.23 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: SpitfireVI Eh, this tactic is always easy if to do if you have someone listening in on voice coms...
Nice stats but realy not impressed, sorry.
Spitfire.
While it is true we do have spy's in your alliance, unfortunately the only real benefit from it is entertainment value. We knew what you were going to do before you did it anyways(scouts 4tw). And unfortunately for our listening pleasure our spy was never around during their very active time, which meant that we missed a lot of the juicy TS ****.
But if you have to convince yourself that the reason we can do what we do because of our spies then I guess roll with it.
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TroNaaR
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.23 19:32:00 -
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Nice stats as always you old ****s!
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Wesley Baird
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.23 19:39:00 -
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Well done as always!
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2008.06.23 19:43:00 -
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Hau abaut a new video?
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Nagelbrett
Reign in Blood
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Posted - 2008.06.23 19:53:00 -
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you only miss my Carrier Hot Drops on you *g*
nice stats
have fun all
Nagelbrett former Hydra
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Wicked Princess
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:00:00 -
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Nice stats, guys! :)
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XxAngelxX
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:16:00 -
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Make a thread when you've camped a worthy opponents 0.0 entry system --------------------------------------
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FellRaven
GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:17:00 -
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Edited by: FellRaven on 23/06/2008 22:22:45 Edited by: FellRaven on 23/06/2008 22:22:23 Edited by: FellRaven on 23/06/2008 22:18:03 Satan as a relative Noob can I cheekily ask you a Question?
How would you counter you own tactics? We had a lot of debate about this on our forums which I'm sure you spy found amusing 
(For those that don't know, couple of really fast 10k Hyenas, 4-5k Rapier and a Interdictor cloaked near Gate,Jump Bridge or Station. 3-4 Ravens cloaked Further out all getting bonus' from a Very Fast Claymore. Numerous Scouts scattered around local and neighbouring system. Only ever uncloaking when you believe you have an Alpha Strike kill
Edit: Sorry Forgot the Falcons that Decloak to break any locks it you get into trouble to allow you to warp off or cloak)
Congrats on the Kills you play the game well.
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Wesley Baird
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: XxAngelxX Make a thread when you've camped a worthy opponents 0.0 entry system
Who's your latest dec against?

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Kyrie Elaison
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:39:00 -
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Nothing like a little self-masturbatory congratulation. Arghy is the one true God and Dungar is His prophet. |

Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: FellRaven How would you counter you own tactics?
Same as with any cloakers.
Deny them kills. Empty the system out. Force them to jump through gates to find kills and pop them there.
Fine folks isk anyone that is popped by them in a non organized pvp situation. They lose a 100mil isk ship+fittings then they owe the alliance 100mil isk. There isn't much of a reason to get popped with intel etc.
Organize gangs etc to undock and use the station/jump bridges. Teamwork. Otherwise a bunch of individuals has no hope. You're fighting an opponent that strives to take as few risks as possible. If you form a gang that can kill them then why would they even uncloak.
They should be forced to engage when you're organized. When they do engage they'll only do so when they feel safe or feel they can pop the bait (ie a freighter). And if they feel threated expect a voice coms spy. Normal voice coms security. Some say lock down voice coms. Others to let the spy in but keep them distracted (so you can get other things done).
They shouldn't get silly kills. Until then there isn't any reason for them to leave or fight.
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Korinn
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: *****zilla
Fine folks isk anyone that is popped by them in a non organized pvp situation. They lose a 100mil isk ship+fittings then they owe the alliance 100mil isk. There isn't much of a reason to get popped with intel etc.
This, oh god this. I hear fining alliance members is the best way of keeping everyone happy 
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XxAngelxX
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: XxAngelxX Make a thread when you've camped a worthy opponents 0.0 entry system
Who's your latest dec against?

More alliances than just Hydra my dear, hows the coalition of****gots going? --------------------------------------
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.23 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Korinn
Originally by: *****zilla
Fine folks isk anyone that is popped by them in a non organized pvp situation. They lose a 100mil isk ship+fittings then they owe the alliance 100mil isk. There isn't much of a reason to get popped with intel etc.
This, oh god this. I hear fining alliance members is the best way of keeping everyone happy 
Yep. No one likes it. Not popular. Will likely never happen. Yet I'll still tilt at that windmill.
Gotta find a better method of behaviour modification.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.06.23 23:37:00 -
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Edited by: Evil Pookie on 23/06/2008 23:37:25
Originally by: XxAngelxX
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: XxAngelxX Make a thread when you've camped a worthy opponents 0.0 entry system
Who's your latest dec against?

More alliances than just Hydra my dear, GUYS GUYS GUYS listen to me I have a bagina!
edited for correctness 
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Slaver
Ex Astris.
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Posted - 2008.06.24 00:00:00 -
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Congrats, I think. The fact that you lost some ships when only uncloaking on your own terms to fight is kind of hilarious IMO. 
Quote: Zulupark: This ties in to what Greyscale was talking about in regards to local chat and exploration. Perhaps giving probing ships the ability to scan non-cloaking designed ships (eg battleships). Perhaps also adding fuel cost to non-covert ops ships. Still looking at options.
In any case, I guess maybe it's time for BE to find a new strategy or tactic - either that or simply disband if you don't know any. 
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Angelonico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.06.24 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Pookie bitter much? wishfull much? dribbeling much? (that was a rhetorical question aimed at myself)
Not one bit. Beating up on weak alliances and chest beating about it on CAOD? Give me a break.
Nice stats - but your chest beating undoes them.
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.24 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: D'ceet
you cant forget the Burn Eden back bone bro!
the alts! i mean, how can you forget MinmatarCitizen3208467 in his sabre?
And the scouts in each system. And the voicecom/gang spies.
Originally by: Angelonico
Nice stats - but your chest beating undoes them.
Who would remember them otherwise?
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Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.06.24 00:38:00 -
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Quote: Over all they seem to be a shadow of their former selves
What? No more 100+ man cannon fodder blobs?
Nicely done anyway. ------ // This is by design. When a ship jumps through a gate, it clears all aggression. // - BH ******** Pew on gate, if it gets hot, jump through and Ctrl-Q. Game mechanic endorsed by CCP. |

Kaykun
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.06.24 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: Kaykun on 24/06/2008 00:41:50
Originally by: Slaver Congrats, I think. The fact that you lost some ships when only uncloaking on your own terms to fight is kind of hilarious IMO. 
Quote: Zulupark: This ties in to what Greyscale was talking about in regards to local chat and exploration. Perhaps giving probing ships the ability to scan non-cloaking designed ships (eg battleships). Perhaps also adding fuel cost to non-covert ops ships. Still looking at options.
In any case, I guess maybe it's time for BE to find a new strategy or tactic - either that or simply disband if you don't know any. 
/me performs a hara-kiri
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