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Dray
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: The Reclaimer
Originally by: Dray just so i understand the frigate tactic, you say you are using them because its valid and profitable tactic, as in u gank 1 bs and no matter what you lose its a sucess, if so how come this massive frigate fleet tactic is quite recent for you? i know omega fly around a lot in stain but never with the numbers that turned up sunday before last, it just seems to me your covering the real reason for the frigate tactic, in my opinion, a lack of battleships or an acute shortage to the point where u feel you have too much to lose commiting them, my opinion and shared by a few, the fact we call your frigate fleet the "peasant fleet" tells its own story.

Because they are fast. If you think we have a shortage of battleships, good, please think that. Who here thinks battleships are expensive? How many billionairs do you think CA has? With platinum insurance is there such a thing as going broke?
Just because once again we prove our superior ability to adapt to Eve you portray us as poor. Thanks for the compliment and the laugh.
spare me..... your ability to adapt wouldve shown itself long before now, remember you can lie to the world but you cant lie to yourself.
adapt......
priceless 
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |

TWD
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:06:00 -
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I am dreadfully sorry that you cannot compete with us in smaller ships - get on chaos or something, but please get over the fact that you have forced us into this position, it is one chosen from our own liking.
yes, I understand you guys rather want to gank a battleship with a swarm of frigates/cruisers rather than risking battleships in real fights.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:07:00 -
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Eh?
Our ablity to adapt has shown by the fact that we are still fking here. You clearly overlook the fact that CA has been underfire since it's existance. I personalyl was not there from the very begining but i assure you that the CA is more than capable to adapt to new situations. This is a perfect example of how, ignore that as you may, but please don't make yourself look an idiot by publically refuting it.
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:09:00 -
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"Discussing on the internet is just like winning the Paralympics, even if you win you are still retarded."
This little sentence describes the discussions in EvE best. You're all discussing so many unrelated issues, it's getting ridiculous.
Just play the game and have fun. I had my fun in Curse and I think we all had fun killing eachother. Let's keep it at that, ok?
Regards,
Bizarre -------------------------------------------------
Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN?
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GFLTorque
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:09:00 -
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I dont wish to inflame this thread, but it is interesting that an alliance that was fat and happy on all that ARK for almost 5 months, is dropping down to small disposable ships, against an alliance everyone agrees has substantially less minerals and has been declared dead on many occasions.
The more "Poor" alliance fielding larger expensive ships, and the more "Rich" alliance fielding cheap ships. Perhaps I can get a mining pass to C4 controled Estoria?
IMO there's just more good pvp corps fighting CA then CA has to defend with atm. Collective, MASS, Evolution, MoO, Celest, Xan just to name a few. RUS, BOS, VOTF, OC, just dont have enough pvp'ers to keep that an even battle at present imo. I spend some time far behind the CA lines, and I can tell you there's plenty of tiny little CA corps back there whom are never seen in combat. If I were CA, I'd say its time they got off their bottoms and fought.
4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:16:00 -
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The most ironic thing about this thread in my eyes is that the Curse Alliance is now lauding and promoting cheap pvp ship tactics (frigates and cruisers) as a viable war tactic.
Their right of course, it is entirely viable and sensible and I think they have made a wise decision to go this way.
But its ironic because a couple of months ago when we in Jericho Fraction took exactly the same decision when we were attacked by the numerically superior (and far richer) Forsaken Empire we were laughed at and derided for using Frigates by exactly the same people now promoting their use ;)
Still nice to know we were proven right eh Curse Alliance.
PS
On the subject of the "is curse still fighting" ... from my perspective the answer is a definate yes. I got my Crow Interceptor blown up by VOTF yesterday. (not my best tour of duty yet, but it was close to evens because I had taken out a SIM interceptor earlier).
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: The Reclaimer on 17/05/2004 15:27:22
Originally by: TWD
Quote:
I am dreadfully sorry that you cannot compete with us in smaller ships - get on chaos or something, but please get over the fact that you have forced us into this position, it is one chosen from our own liking.
yes, I understand you guys rather want to gank a battleship with a swarm of frigates/cruisers rather than risking battleships in real fights.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are a ******* hypocrite sir. You killed one of my Ravens with 10 frigates Saturday. Why would you even come here with this rubbish? This honestly shows the low lvl of inteligence you have. First you complain about blob wars, now this. You complain everytime you lose.
I have more than six battleships, but I prefer to fly a frigate, they are fast and fun. If you carebears, yes carebears, dont like how we play, quit the game or move on. We play to have fun, not to make you happy.
In case you are wondering, carebears by definition are ppl who feel others should play a game the way they do.
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Dray
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona Eh?
Our ablity to adapt has shown by the fact that we are still fking here. You clearly overlook the fact that CA has been underfire since it's existance. I personalyl was not there from the very begining but i assure you that the CA is more than capable to adapt to new situations. This is a perfect example of how, ignore that as you may, but please don't make yourself look an idiot by publically refuting it.
Thanks.
omega flying round in frigs looking for kills is not being questioned here, what is being questioned is the CA's sudden moment of clarity regarding frigate combat, as for the CA being underfire since its existence, so what, large CA frigate blobs are new, unlike castor i might add, as for "we are still fkn here" there is no one in the game under the illusion that its easy to take, hold, and remove an enemy from its chosen home, and in light of this and my stating it how does it make me an idiot, i have an opinion, you have yours, i state my case and you state yours, either we are both idiots or we are expressing opinions.
omega flying round in frigs is not new, large CA frigate blobs are.
that is the simple fact, you say CA is adapting, i think CA is now careful with its assets because they are feeling the pinch.
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |

Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:30:00 -
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ok this has been mentioned about 200 times in this thread already, but CA spokespeople keep making comments that make me question their intelligence and their comprehension of this discussion. nobody is telling you not to fly frigates. you say you fly frigates to have fun. great. but you won't get to fight us if you do bring 50 frigs. so well all i can say is have fun racing each other because that is as far as you will go fun-wise.
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:34:00 -
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The fact so many people are complaining about it shows its been working your are in the following category :
1) been ganked by frigate fleet 2) Jumping on bandwagon (many of you in this one) 3) Scared of a new tactic
I find it hilarious especially Stain who seem to not know what to setup for you say we don't have any battleships left i guess thats why when you started attacking our stations you were all equipped for frigate killing and got quite suprised when we showed up in battleships and wiped you out.
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Dray
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: The Ratfink The fact so many people are complaining about it shows its been working your are in the following category :
1) been ganked by frigate fleet 2) Jumping on bandwagon (many of you in this one) 3) Scared of a new tactic
I find it hilarious especially Stain who seem to not know what to setup for you say we don't have any battleships left i guess thats why when you started attacking our stations you were all equipped for frigate killing and got quite suprised when we showed up in battleships and wiped you out.
1) i have not been ganked by a frigate fleet 2) i am stating an opinion 3) this frigate blob is not new its been there for you to use long before now, its the timing that has created all the questions, it is not a tactic to fear its a tactic that bores
thank you for putting that to bed, so we'll be seeing you in battleships again.
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |

sutty
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Posted - 2004.05.17 15:47:00 -
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this is why we moan.
YOUR PLAYING THE BOREDEM TATIC AGAIN.
yes thats right you lost all your battleships VOTF even pulled back to empire then you come up with the idea of blobbing in frigs. blobbing in your battleships was boring but blobbing in frigs is worse 
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Duke Droklar
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Posted - 2004.05.17 16:10:00 -
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Lol, blob in frigs? Swarm would be more appropriate. Boredom game? We're not the ones hiding in station being bored... you are. (you = enemy forces) We streak around and have a massive kill rate, while we are having a blast. Sorry if you cant cope with it.
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.05.17 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: The Reclaimer Edited by: The Reclaimer on 17/05/2004 15:27:22
Originally by: TWD
Quote:
I am dreadfully sorry that you cannot compete with us in smaller ships - get on chaos or something, but please get over the fact that you have forced us into this position, it is one chosen from our own liking.
yes, I understand you guys rather want to gank a battleship with a swarm of frigates/cruisers rather than risking battleships in real fights.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are a ******* hypocrite sir. You killed one of my Ravens with 10 frigates Saturday. Why would you even come here with this rubbish? This honestly shows the low lvl of inteligence you have. First you complain about blob wars, now this. You complain everytime you lose.
I have more than six battleships, but I prefer to fly a frigate, they are fast and fun. If you carebears, yes carebears, dont like how we play, quit the game or move on. We play to have fun, not to make you happy.
In case you are wondering, carebears by definition are ppl who feel others should play a game the way they do.
here you can see yourself:
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.05.17 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: sutty this is why we moan.
YOUR PLAYING THE BOREDEM TATIC AGAIN.
yes thats right you lost all your battleships VOTF even pulled back to empire then you come up with the idea of blobbing in frigs. blobbing in your battleships was boring but blobbing in frigs is worse 
I still have all my BS do you So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.05.17 16:21:00 -
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What's the point in having more then six battleships anyway?
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.05.17 17:00:00 -
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Well, I didnt mind losing it tbh. I had 5 days left on the old platnium. Glad I could take 2-3 with me. Not bad considering I had no drones or smartbombs. But, thank you for proving my point for me. Next time you might want to not accuse us of doing what you do. It makes you sound like you are either defeated or crying, or both.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.05.17 18:19:00 -
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Ok, in reply to TWD, you've killed what? a total of 1 CA battleships this week?
Last night 2 VOTF Battleships and 2 Cruisers and 1 Frigate engaged 3 EVOL Battleships 1 Crow and 1 Frigate.
Evol Battleship Pilots:- DietDew Dukath Koekrijt
VOTF Battleship Pilots:- Aneu Angellus Faust Revis
Faust warped in first and got tageted by all three battleships, while he took on Dukath, i immediatley warped in behind him. Dukath took heavy damage as did Faust, they both warped away. Our two cruisers started hitting Dukath as he was warping away.
During that time i burned it to DietDew and immediatly got his shields down, he was taking major armour damage but wasnt shooting back, he turned his MWD on and burned it towards the station and docked.
Koekrijt was shooting at me all the time i was fighting DietDew, i burned it all the way over to Koekrijt and engaged him. As he was about to die Faust warped back in an engaged, the outcome was this...
Here
Regards Aneu
________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.05.17 18:27:00 -
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This post is doubling up another one so whats the point in having this one?
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TWD
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Posted - 2004.05.17 18:42:00 -
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tbh most of m0o left Curse space, reason for that was boredom. pretty much everything that was left of CA was a ganksquad of frigates/cruisers. don't worry, our war still stands, and we will be back. we kicked your asses, and will do it again.
btw, I came back for a day in Curse and participated in killing:
The Reclaimer, Raven Antelope, Apocalypse Skurg, Tempest Leyla, Tempest Shemaul, Scorp |

Zelota
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Posted - 2004.05.17 20:04:00 -
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ONE move causing so much CHAOS!!! and disorder!!! how can it be?you beter wach it to find out and to wach it is to know what is going on here folks Vid of the week |

Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.05.17 21:18:00 -
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Again, no flaming and no trolling. Also real life politics have no place here.
If you have any questions, please mail us at [email protected]
Thank you
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.05.17 21:34:00 -
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Eris just owned us.
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Hair is Over-rated.
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.05.17 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Stained Eris just owned us.
doesnt she always
/emote sighs
i think i have an unhealthy obsession with eris
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Mituno Sakai
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Posted - 2004.05.17 22:03:00 -
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I thought the problem with fighting in frigates was you die a lot more..and get podded more.
The problem using this tactic is not the ship but the character. It seems to me there are some options
1. buy another account and train a frigate character and leave of any implants. Downside: cost more $ (tho CCP is happy) 2. set aside a character for frigate use and train this. Downside: training time deducts from your 'main' character 3. use your main character. Downside: either live without implants or risk them. The last part will make the 'cost benefit' analysis of frigs vs battleships a whole different ballgame.
Personally I would expect most of the players in Curse going for 1. It stands to reason that all the non powergamers left the region long ago - they have been fighting more or less constantly for what? 6 months.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.05.17 22:07:00 -
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Aww my humor post was deleted =(
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Zelota
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Posted - 2004.05.17 23:13:00 -
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News flash::.....:!!! do to this video some m0o players are selling there acounts!!! you need to wach it!! it is UBER Vid of the week |

BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.05.17 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 17/05/2004 23:26:22 Really, the occasional frigate fight is very fun, it's just that we'd like the chance to blow up larger things once in a while. I haven't been playing much the past week, cause I've been taking naps after work when all the Brits are on, but we were getting bored of Curse anyway.
We stayed for an extra 2 weeks or so just because we hate your trash talkers and wanted to get a few more kills in.
We will always move around like this, Fountain can claim victory for us leaving, CFS and CA can do the same, but whatever. Our thing is to kill everyone in fleet battles and shatter any thoughts people were forming about becoming competent at the game. We're impatient ****s with guns, and the same scenery just gets boring. I'd like to go back to Empire space pirating for a while, personally. Steal me an apoc or something.
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.05.17 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 17/05/2004 23:26:22 Really, the occasional frigate fight is very fun, it's just that we'd like the chance to blow up larger things once in a while. I haven't been playing much the past week, cause I've been taking naps after work when all the Brits are on, but we were getting bored of Curse anyway.
We stayed for an extra 2 weeks or so just because we hate your trash talkers and wanted to get a few more kills in.
We will always move around like this, Fountain can claim victory for us leaving, CFS and CA can do the same, but whatever. Our thing is to kill everyone in fleet battles and shatter any thoughts people were forming about becoming competent at the game. We're impatient ****s with guns, and the same scenery just gets boring. I'd like to go back to Empire space pirating for a while, personally. Steal me an apoc or something.
ROFL
You back stabbed and are now owned. Get out while you can !
Again: ROFL ! -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein |

Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.05.18 00:00:00 -
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I still can't DL Zelota's video. And judging by the first one, i don't think its worth it...
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