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burek Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:34:00 - [31] Lol, the number of people that don't get it is depressing.
Sir Atkinson Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:35:00 - [32] Originally by: Kelli Flay Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 25/06/2008 14:31:56 Originally by: Kelli Flay Logic...hello? <clue-by-four> Logic dictates that this thread was made in response to a nano-whine claiming that speed mods were the only kind of defense that wasn't subject to stacking penalties, and that it should therefore be nerfed. </clue-by-four> Interesting. Because I don't see the word nano anywhere in the OP. Then read between the lines my friend.
Kelli Flay	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Sir Atkinson Originally by: Kelli Flay Originally by: Sir Atkinson Originally by: Kelli Flay The Drake's tank is a feature of the ship. Unlike a Battleship which can be set up to go as fast as a Cruiser by adding mods and rigs. Translation: OP is a massive blob of fail sauce. Did you even try to read the thread? I believe my arguments are valid. Whereas yours are not. Please try to make constructive comments instead of this. How can you say my argument isn't valid? How can you argue that the drake isn't suppose to have a tough tank and was intended by CCP to be that way? {which is what i stated} Logic...hello? First of all you state that a BC can't go as fast as a BS. This is obviously not true. Have you tryed and of the other BCs or have you tried a MWD on your Drake? Maybe a disruptor? Or a web? I've seen several of these setups. 2 LSE's and MWD+WEB+SCRAM. They can be very deadly to nanoships as it isn't what you expect from Drake-noobs. And the fail sauce-remark is just childish. I take back the fail sauce remark then. I didn't mean to attack your delicate sensibilities. How about a big boat of failure instead?
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:39:00 - [34] Originally by: Taedrin Passive tank Drakes have pitiful DPS. There is a tradeoff. More than 300 DPS at 60Km and 240 or so at 84Km isn't "pitiful". OTOH, the OP is full of donkey manure when he says that 2 BS and 1 CS cannot kill 1 passive drake. 1 proper BS is enough, although the Drake can usually tank 3 HACs. How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Kelli Flay	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:42:00 - [35] Originally by: Pan Crastus Originally by: Taedrin Passive tank Drakes have pitiful DPS. There is a tradeoff. More than 300 DPS at 60Km and 240 or so at 84Km isn't "pitiful". OTOH, the OP is full of donkey manure when he says that 2 BS and 1 CS cannot kill 1 passive drake. 1 proper BS is enough, although the Drake can usually tank 3 HACs. The OP says read between the lines. Translation: he is a troll.
JOSEPHx Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:48:00 - [36] Go on holiday Atkinson. -
Sidus Isaacs	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:56:00 - [37] Originally by: Sir Atkinson Drakes are overpowered. The passively tanked Drakes have a recharge rate that is completely ridiculous. It can easily tank 2 battleships and a CS at the same time. It's just lame. The Slave-tanked faction BS's are out of line. We encountered a Machariel with dual Corpum A-type LARs. We had 2 BCs, a CS and random support and we barely scratched it. The same problem with Crystal set faction/officer tanked CNRs. This must stop. The game mechanics are shot. Bring out the nerf bat CCP. But can the drake kill the two BS's? It usually can't. You wastly overestimate tanking.
Faife Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.06.25 14:58:00 - [38] i agree with op, it sucks that my stabber cant kill a drake.
Black Scorpio	Posted - 2008.06.25 15:45:00 - [39] Originally by: Sir Atkinson Drakes are overpowered. The passively tanked Drakes have a recharge rate that is completely ridiculous. It can easily tank 2 battleships and a CS at the same time. It's just lame. The Slave-tanked faction BS's are out of line. We encountered a Machariel with dual Corpum A-type LARs. We had 2 BCs, a CS and random support and we barely scratched it. The same problem with Crystal set faction/officer tanked CNRs. This must stop. The game mechanics are shot. Bring out the nerf bat CCP. You're a moron.
Malcanis We are Legend	Posted - 2008.06.25 15:56:00 - [40] Originally by: Tankn00blicus Edited by: Tankn00blicus on 25/06/2008 14:14:06 Edited by: Tankn00blicus on 25/06/2008 14:13:12 Originally by: Sir Atkinson Well we often talk about Isk vs. Reward in this game, so let's say that the Huginn has roughly a 50% chance of dropping a Domination webifier and/or a Domination 10MN MWD (both trading in 150-175 mill range) get the Disruptor too, then you are looking at approx 300-350 mill in loot + the fact that you killed an expensive ship. I'd say you could finance a gang of 25 inty's at that price. Will that be enough for you? You're still throwing 25 people out to catch 1 person. I would only see that kind of situation not being ridiculous when the 1 person is in a cap ship, not a cruiser. Have you even seen Star Wars? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.

Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2008.06.25 16:06:00 - [41] Lol you try to compare a drake to nanos ? Sorry but that makes no sense. There is no drake setup i can't kill with a torp-raven (t2 fit). To get to the nanon-comparison. Imagine the drake would take 0 damage from turrets, making your main weapontypes completely useless (what nanos do to missiles atm), while staying at range so you can't web or neut it and still deal considerable damage. If the drake did all this, then you could compare it to nanos, but if you can't kill it with 2 bs and a cs, then i'd say put some weapons on your ships and train the skills at least to 2, a damagemod might be a good idea aswell.
Pellura School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.06.25 16:57:00 - [42] maybe you guys just suck, I mean you need a cap to kill a drake? ^^
F90OEX F9X	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:01:00 - [43] Wts crystal set faction/officer tanked CNRs Nerf bat you say ? Dream on
Zephyr Rengate State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:01:00 - [44] Originally by: burek Lol, the number of people that don't get it is depressing. Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I will not liek human meat but the naerest I tried is human chesse. I don't want to tried again ...
Zinras Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:04:00 - [45] Originally by: burek Lol, the number of people that don't get it is depressing. This. Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal CCP's best friend
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:07:00 - [46] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 25/06/2008 17:09:23 Weather the OP meant it or not, it still brings out the question as to what setups are OK and which arent. I think the ship setups I fly are fine, while the ship setups of my enemy that I cant beat are overpowered. Anyone else? Putting in a just to make sure everyone gets the wink. Originally by: Faife i agree with op, it sucks that my stabber cant kill a drake. I wonder if even two nano vagas can kill a tanked Drake. Working as intended. --- Its dead, Jim.
Dal Thrax Multiverse Corporation Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:10:00 - [47] Originally by: Sir Atkinson Drakes are overpowered. The passively tanked Drakes have a recharge rate that is completely ridiculous. It can easily tank 2 battleships and a CS at the same time. It's just lame. The Slave-tanked faction BS's are out of line. We encountered a Machariel with dual Corpum A-type LARs. We had 2 BCs, a CS and random support and we barely scratched it. The same problem with Crystal set faction/officer tanked CNRs. This must stop. The game mechanics are shot. Bring out the nerf bat CCP. On the off chance that this is not yet another round in the nano fight, you know large neuts will do a job on most things active tanks. Originally by: HEXXX In all seriousness; I think I made a miscalculation originally. . . We either need to fix this or fix our advertising.
Lorna Loot Nox Eternus	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:20:00 - [48] Originally by: Dal Thrax Originally by: Sir Atkinson Drakes are overpowered. The passively tanked Drakes have a recharge rate that is completely ridiculous. It can easily tank 2 battleships and a CS at the same time. It's just lame. The Slave-tanked faction BS's are out of line. We encountered a Machariel with dual Corpum A-type LARs. We had 2 BCs, a CS and random support and we barely scratched it. The same problem with Crystal set faction/officer tanked CNRs. This must stop. The game mechanics are shot. Bring out the nerf bat CCP. On the off chance that this is not yet another round in the nano fight, you know large neuts will do a job on most things speed tanking. See what I did there?
MOS DEF 0utbreak	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:29:00 - [49] If you cannot take down a passivedrake with 2 battleships you should take a deep breath, look at your skills and at your fittings and start to think about it if this game is the right thing for you because you obviously fail on all fronts. I don't fly the drake. I fought many passive drakes and i agree that they have an awesome tank that can be frustrating at times if you fight it with lets say 2 vagabonds. So the caldari tier 2 battlecruiser tanks better then the rest and exceeds others. So what? It's not like caldari ships are the best vp ships in this game. Now they have one ship that tanks well and performs well in PVP even with tackling gear and you have nothing better to do then come here and complain? My mega rips through a passive drake without any help from others just fine so you simply must be doing something wrong when you can't do it with 2 BS and a BC. ___
Kirana Si House of Lubrication	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:31:00 - [50] Originally by: MOS DEF My mega rips through a passive drake without any help from others just fine Nerf the Megathron now !!!

Princess Kyky Perkone	Posted - 2008.06.25 17:46:00 - [51] Originally by: burek Lol, the number of people that don't get it is depressing. /signed <3 Burek ------
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2008.06.25 18:04:00 - [52] Obvious troll who is whining in a round about way that people have complained about nanos. News flash, if a Mach didn't fit for speed you should have easily been able to kill it with two BSes and 1 CS. Slaves or no slaves. I call shinanigens on your "story," and if its true, its just betrayed your own lameness. As for the Drake, well yes. A fully passive Drake is just stupid. Plane and simple. -Karlemgne
Tae'Lin Hynd Aliastra	Posted - 2008.06.25 18:29:00 - [53] Edited by: Tae''Lin Hynd on 25/06/2008 18:30:16 Originally by: MOS DEF If you cannot take down a passivedrake with 2 battleships you should take a deep breath, look at your skills and at your fittings and start to think about it if this game is the right thing for you because you obviously fail on all fronts. I don't fly the drake. I fought many passive drakes and i agree that they have an awesome tank that can be frustrating at times if you fight it with lets say 2 vagabonds. So the caldari tier 2 battlecruiser tanks better then the rest and exceeds others. So what? It's not like caldari ships are the best vp ships in this game. Now they have one ship that tanks well and performs well in PVP even with tackling gear and you have nothing better to do then come here and complain? My mega rips through a passive drake without any help from others just fine so you simply must be doing something wrong when you can't do it with 2 BS and a BC. Wait, this is the same argument that the non-nano user uses when the whine on the nanos start, and you will notice all the caldari drake fliers that took this thread to heart, when obviously he was pokin fun at all the caldari that cry about the nano that can't be killed by their pve drake.
Tai Paktu Ataraxia.	Posted - 2008.06.25 18:40:00 - [54] Originally by: Banana Torres When mythic loot was introduced I was happy, but when combined with the MMO player's ability to find emergent gameplay the mythic loot has introduced some serious balance issues. Originally by: Banana Torres When mythic loot was introduced I was happy, but when combined with the MMO player's ability to find emergent gameplay... Originally by: Banana Torres When mythic loot was introduced I was happy Originally by: Banana Torres When mythic loot Originally by: Banana Torres mythic loot Get out. ______ http://eve-files.com/sig/TaiPaktu/sig3.PNG


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