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Laciter
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:05:00 -
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Seeing that EVE has a playerbase spread out across the world, I thought I would ask what people feel about the candidates for the upcoming US presidential election. So have at it.
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Laciter
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:05:00 -
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Seeing that EVE has a playerbase spread out across the world, I thought I would ask what people feel about the candidates for the upcoming US presidential election. So have at it.
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Havok Dryke
Golden Gavel Enterprises
The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Havok Dryke on 25/06/2008 18:09:48
I'm Canadian. So long as he isn't Bush or Bush-like, I really couldn't care less.
Also, In before political flaming and general derailing of thread.
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Havok Dryke
Golden Gavel Enterprises
The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Havok Dryke on 25/06/2008 18:09:48
I'm Canadian. So long as he isn't Bush or Bush-like, I really couldn't care less.
Also, In before political flaming and general derailing of thread.
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:12:00 -
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Well to be honest I liked Obama from the start, its a recurrent joke over here how worked up people were on the news about Clinton v Obama.
Then deciding to vote for the Repblican candidate whose name escapes me if their chosen candidate dosent win. By polarising the electorate for Hillary V Obama I say well done to the Republicans to sit back and let it come to them.
In terms of Republic policy, I hear that the candidate is someone who is not well liked amongst the party. Due to Bushs abysmal presidency it is expected like Thatcher previous republican supporters will defect to get them out of power. As I understand it he cannot stand twice for the candidate as president, ergo if he looses (as expected) then he can never run for president again.
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:12:00 -
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Well to be honest I liked Obama from the start, its a recurrent joke over here how worked up people were on the news about Clinton v Obama.
Then deciding to vote for the Repblican candidate whose name escapes me if their chosen candidate dosent win. By polarising the electorate for Hillary V Obama I say well done to the Republicans to sit back and let it come to them.
In terms of Republic policy, I hear that the candidate is someone who is not well liked amongst the party. Due to Bushs abysmal presidency it is expected like Thatcher previous republican supporters will defect to get them out of power. As I understand it he cannot stand twice for the candidate as president, ergo if he looses (as expected) then he can never run for president again.
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Remata Lakira
Terran Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:14:00 -
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I lost interest in the policies of each candidate once Ron Paul got kicked out but I'd rather that Obama becomes the next president. As I said I don't know as much about him as I should but I do know that he is trying to remove the influence of lobbyists from the US government (kinda like Ron Paul but to a lesser extent) and he gave a speech on how more African Americans need to act like men and stick with their families rather than run away. he also said that the black community can no longer use their grim past as an excuse to act like thugs.
I care a lot more about American politics than I do about British politics right now as I dislike the current leaders of all the political parties.
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Remata Lakira
Terran Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:14:00 -
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I lost interest in the policies of each candidate once Ron Paul got kicked out but I'd rather that Obama becomes the next president. As I said I don't know as much about him as I should but I do know that he is trying to remove the influence of lobbyists from the US government (kinda like Ron Paul but to a lesser extent) and he gave a speech on how more African Americans need to act like men and stick with their families rather than run away. he also said that the black community can no longer use their grim past as an excuse to act like thugs.
I care a lot more about American politics than I do about British politics right now as I dislike the current leaders of all the political parties.
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Kyrall
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:16:00 -
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I'm from the UK, and I'm completely fed up of the whole thing. There's been way too much coverage of the Obama/Clinton campaigning over here. I don't know why our press felt that we cared that much, but they seemed to be obsessed with it. It's only to pick a candidate, and it's not even in our country! Though come to think of it, I still don't think I could tell you much about any of the candidates, even after all that blanket coverage.
It is interesting to see a bit of how things work over there though, in contrast to here. Here, elections are over in a matter of weeks, it seems odd to have such a long drawn-out process, especially in a country with a stereotype of idiots with a 5 second attention span!  It does make me wonder how much money has been spent so far that could have gone to much better use though...
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Kyrall
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:16:00 -
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I'm from the UK, and I'm completely fed up of the whole thing. There's been way too much coverage of the Obama/Clinton campaigning over here. I don't know why our press felt that we cared that much, but they seemed to be obsessed with it. It's only to pick a candidate, and it's not even in our country! Though come to think of it, I still don't think I could tell you much about any of the candidates, even after all that blanket coverage.
It is interesting to see a bit of how things work over there though, in contrast to here. Here, elections are over in a matter of weeks, it seems odd to have such a long drawn-out process, especially in a country with a stereotype of idiots with a 5 second attention span! It does make me wonder how much money has been spent so far that could have gone to much better use though...
- Originally by: Grarr Dexx
YES PLEASE TOUCH MY ABSOLUTION
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Micheal Dietrich
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:17:00 -
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I like Obama myself even he hates me.
Originally by: El'tar
I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME!
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Micheal Dietrich
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:17:00 -
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I like Obama myself even he hates me.
Originally by: El'tar
I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME!
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Xrak
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:50:00 -
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Doesn't anyone else think that Mccain looks like he cant actually move properly and is about to have a heart attack at any moment?
Even if his policies weren't pretty awful I wouldn't vote for him simply because hes way too old.
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Micheal Dietrich
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.06.25 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Xrak
Doesn't anyone else think that Mccain looks like he cant actually move properly and is about to have a heart attack at any moment?
Even if his policies weren't pretty awful I wouldn't vote for him simply because hes way too old.
Well that's generally been the norm for us. Old white guys, which is probably why this campaign has been in more of an uproar than usual. If memory serves JFK was the youngest elected official being 43.
Originally by: El'tar
I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME!
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.25 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Xrak
Doesn't anyone else think that Mccain looks like he cant actually move properly and is about to have a heart attack at any moment?
Even if his policies weren't pretty awful I wouldn't vote for him simply because hes way too old.
Both sides have horrible policies, but between the two I think i'd rather vote for mccain simply because he has a better past record(obama has alot of...Dealings with racist and rather iffy people).
Just my two cents.
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Hebik Fane
Malicious Intentions
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.06.25 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Xrak
Doesn't anyone else think that Mccain looks like he cant actually move properly and is about to have a heart attack at any moment?
He can't move properly anymore, he was a POW in Vietnam for I believe 5+ years, and lets say they left him with some lovely parting gifts. However if he can withstand that I do not believe his health is an issue for me. But then again I already am represented by Obama since I live in Chicago, so I know all I need too about our local senator.
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Rana Ash
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.25 19:41:00 -
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It does'nt matter which of them becomes president, both will have to deal with alot of baggage.
And eventhough they both promise high and low, none of them will follow up on them.
So basicly they are damned if they do and damned if they don't..
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.06.25 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Laciter
Seeing that EVE has a playerbase spread out across the world, I thought I would ask what people feel about the candidates for the upcoming US presidential election. So have at it.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:07:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 25/06/2008 20:08:39
I think Obama is probably the right choice of candidate for the dems because I guess Republicans everywhere still think Hillary Clinton is the devil. As a foreign observer it's a little worrying how little middle ground there appears to be between some segments of your society.
McCain worries me because he seems a little gung ho. Don't really fancy Britain getting led by the nose into any more stupid wars. Apart from that he seems all right. Pretty much what you'd expect from his party generally but centre-right enough to not completely alienate half the country. I really dislike some of his positions but generally he seems like a good guy.
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Micheal Dietrich
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 25/06/2008 20:12:20
Hillary is the devil
Originally by: El'tar
I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Laciter
Seeing that EVE has a playerbase spread out across the world, I thought I would ask what people feel about the candidates for the upcoming US presidential election. So have at it.
The phrase "the lesser of several evils" certainly does come to mind when speaking about polititians in general, and this year's US presidential election candidates in particular.
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Jernau Gurgeh
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:37:00 -
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Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/06/2008 20:37:37
Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Xrak
Doesn't anyone else think that Mccain looks like he cant actually move properly and is about to have a heart attack at any moment?
Even if his policies weren't pretty awful I wouldn't vote for him simply because hes way too old.
Both sides have horrible policies, but between the two I think i'd rather vote for mccain simply because he has a better past record(obama has alot of...Dealings with racist and rather iffy people).
Just my two cents.
Yes, because McCain singing "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" to the tune of the Beach Boys' Barbara Ann was in no way racist or iffy.
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CryoHead
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Remata Lakira
I lost interest in the policies of each candidate once Ron Paul got kicked out ...
Ron Paul FTW
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Shinnen
Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: CryoHead
Originally by: Remata Lakira
I lost interest in the policies of each candidate once Ron Paul got kicked out ...
Ron Paul FTW
QFT 
Was quite surprising he didn't do better in the NH primary tbh
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jernau Gurgeh
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/06/2008 20:37:37
Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Xrak
Doesn't anyone else think that Mccain looks like he cant actually move properly and is about to have a heart attack at any moment?
Even if his policies weren't pretty awful I wouldn't vote for him simply because hes way too old.
Both sides have horrible policies, but between the two I think i'd rather vote for mccain simply because he has a better past record(obama has alot of...Dealings with racist and rather iffy people).
Just my two cents.
Yes, because McCain singing "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" to the tune of the Beach Boys' Barbara Ann was in no way racist or iffy.
Like Iran doesnt deserve it...
But besides that, if you think talking to a dictator such as Iran's(honestly, I know his name I just cant spell it )would work you obviously dont take these guys seriously.
And lastly, in the end wanting to start a war isnt exactly racism, it would only be bigotry if it were against all muslims(whether it be physically or verbally).
Honestly I had another point to make somewhere but the forums ate it
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Micheal Dietrich
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:53:00 -
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How bout the fact that McCain is backed by our current monkey?
Originally by: El'tar
I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME!
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
How bout the fact that McCain is backed by our current monkey?
Politicians are politicians, you expect obama to be different?
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Micheal Dietrich
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.06.25 20:58:00 -
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Not in the least, but I do expect us to see many more Shining One post' if McCain takes the seat.
Originally by: El'tar
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.25 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Not in the least, but I do expect us to see many more Shining One post' if McCain takes the seat.
No, you obviously dont understand.
If a democrat gets into the presidental seat then you will have changes galore...And since I dont trust the guy it will probably be changes in the wrong direction.
If a republican gets into office(not sure about mccain, but meh)we get a veto fest.
And lastly, since I dont trust either party(obama or mccain) the only thing I can go off of is background and what they believe, but ofcourse nothing will happen so background it is and ill take a vietnam veteran(that was even a POW)over obama.
But I digress, itl be best if we stop yammering about politics, the OP wants what people think of the election, not of the candidates.
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Micheal Dietrich
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.06.25 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 25/06/2008 21:11:45
All that really matters to me is that Hillary is out. I've never trusted anything about her and I never will.
Originally by: El'tar
I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME!
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.25 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 25/06/2008 21:11:45
All that really matters to me is that Hillary is out. I've never trusted anything about her and I never will.
I believe shes pretty much out now, so I guess thats a personal win for you .
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Kirjava
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.06.25 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 25/06/2008 21:11:45
All that really matters to me is that Hillary is out. I've never trusted anything about her and I never will.
Well, it would be awkward if the Oval Office happened again with Hillery 
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Mary Me'Belle
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Posted - 2008.06.25 21:19:00 -
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as long as they represent the lobbyists I am happy
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Hedian
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Posted - 2008.06.25 23:31:00 -
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Like Iran doesnt deserve it...
But besides that, if you think talking to a dictator such as Iran's(honestly, I know his name I just cant spell it)would work you obviously dont take these guys seriously.
And lastly, in the end wanting to start a war isnt exactly racism, it would only be bigotry if it were against all muslims(whether it be physically or verbally).
Honestly I had another point to make somewhere but the forums ate it
Yeah and starting a war does, just look at Afghanistan and Iraq...
Don't think it matters anyway. The closer they get to being a president the less they are going to change.
Ralph Nader is my favorite, but there is only room for capitalism in american politics so i don't really care about who wins the election.
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Ademaro Imre
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Posted - 2008.06.25 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Xrak
Doesn't anyone else think that Mccain looks like he cant actually move properly and is about to have a heart attack at any moment?
They probably notice it the same way they notice anyone else that was crippled by the North Vietnamese torturing their prisoners of war.
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Micheal Dietrich
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.06.25 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ademaro Imre
Originally by: Xrak
Doesn't anyone else think that Mccain looks like he cant actually move properly and is about to have a heart attack at any moment?
They probably notice it the same way they notice anyone else that was crippled by the North Vietnamese torturing their prisoners of war.
Only 2 people I've met from the vietnam era get completely tanked on the 4th when the fireworks go off and they end up in a closet.
Well the second one is always drunk. He got out on a section 8.
Originally by: El'tar
I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME!
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Lithalnas
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.06.25 23:56:00 -
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I would really like to see mccain get in office, mostly because of obama's proposed 40% tax increase, which would be crushing.
And anyone who thinks high gas prices are good because we drive less and save the environment is a mental case. Not to mention the Death tax he wants back, why should i pay taxes because i died.
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Keorythe
Terra Rosa Militia
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.06.25 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Keorythe on 26/06/2008 00:05:07
Originally by: Xrak
Doesn't anyone else think that Mccain looks like he cant actually move properly
The poor medical treatment after breaking his limbs in from ejecting and the subsequent torture afterwards as a prisoner in vietnam left him unable to raise his hands above his head without feeling alot of pain. He's just dealt with that issue for his entire life and doesn't make a big deal about it in public.
As for the elections, if McCain wins be prepared to see more accusations of election fraud. The last congressional elections had them and then promptly disappeared when it was discovered that the Dem's had control of Congress after all.
Also be prepared to see more debates about the paper vs. electronic method of voting. Despite 4 years this issue still hasn't been properly addressed. Its like we procrastinate until it becomes a media issue.
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.26 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Hedian
Like Iran doesnt deserve it...
But besides that, if you think talking to a dictator such as Iran's(honestly, I know his name I just cant spell it)would work you obviously dont take these guys seriously.
And lastly, in the end wanting to start a war isnt exactly racism, it would only be bigotry if it were against all muslims(whether it be physically or verbally).
Honestly I had another point to make somewhere but the forums ate it
Yeah and starting a war does, just look at Afghanistan and Iraq...
Don't think it matters anyway. The closer they get to being a president the less they are going to change.
Ralph Nader is my favorite, but there is only room for capitalism in american politics so i don't really care about who wins the election.
Afghanistan was harboring the person who attacked us.
And there were several reasons to invade Iraq, they had a ruthless dictator incharge, they are a powerfull nation in the middle east and thus would serve very well as a central hub of the other view(against terrorism)in the middle east, they could have had weapons of mass destruction(not necessarily nukes, chemical weapons yes), and there was a very good chance they harbored terrorists aswell.
But like I said, this post isnt about this... And we should drop it before we go deeper in political bull.
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Hedian
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Posted - 2008.06.26 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas
I would really like to see mccain get in office, mostly because of obama's proposed 40% tax increase, which would be crushing.
And anyone who thinks high gas prices are good because we drive less and save the environment is a mental case. Not to mention the Death tax he wants back, why should i pay taxes because i died.
let me fix that for you 'the filthy rich' tax
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Ademaro Imre
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Posted - 2008.06.26 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Remata Lakira
I lost interest in the policies of each candidate once Ron Paul got kicked out but I'd rather that Obama becomes the next president. As I said I don't know as much about him as I should but I do know that he is trying to remove the influence of lobbyists from the US government (kinda like Ron Paul but to a lesser extent) and he gave a speech on how more African Americans need to act like men and stick with their families rather than run away. he also said that the black community can no longer use their grim past as an excuse to act like thugs.
McCain authored laws to remove lobbyist influence from the government. In fact, McCain and the RNC in general, have only raised some 2% of their money from lobbysist, and I believe a figure from some quarter report had Obama and the DNC at 4%. That doesn't mean Obama still isn't getting oil exec money for example. In fact, oil execs have been sponsoring campaign funding events for Obama (or, "soft" campaign contributions). End of April, Obama took in over $330K from oil companies. Some execs, while not donating through PAC's, and personally campaigning for Obama and "bundling" that is collecting their own pool of donators and sending them to the campaign. Two oil execs have bundled $150K for Obama. In comparison, McCain got $445K from oil companies. All corporation donate to both parties.
If Obama wants to live up to his campaign TV ads, he would send the money back. In fact, he would live up to his promise of a publicly financed campaign where funds are limited, but he threw his promise out the window last week.
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Hedian
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Posted - 2008.06.26 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Hedian
Like Iran doesnt deserve it...
But besides that, if you think talking to a dictator such as Iran's(honestly, I know his name I just cant spell it)would work you obviously dont take these guys seriously.
And lastly, in the end wanting to start a war isnt exactly racism, it would only be bigotry if it were against all muslims(whether it be physically or verbally).
Honestly I had another point to make somewhere but the forums ate it
Yeah and starting a war does, just look at Afghanistan and Iraq...
Don't think it matters anyway. The closer they get to being a president the less they are going to change.
Ralph Nader is my favorite, but there is only room for capitalism in american politics so i don't really care about who wins the election.
Afghanistan was harboring the person who attacked us.
And there were several reasons to invade Iraq, they had a ruthless dictator incharge, they are a powerfull nation in the middle east and thus would serve very well as a central hub of the other view(against terrorism)in the middle east, they could have had weapons of mass destruction(not necessarily nukes, chemical weapons yes), and there was a very good chance they harbored terrorists aswell.
But like I said, this post isnt about this... And we should drop it before we go deeper in political bull.
ok i give my last reply and then we drop it.
the hole afghan war isn't a big iffy you had a UN mandate so fair enough. although you might argue that the afghan people, most of which had nothing to do with 9/11 is the ones suffering, and i don't think two wrongs make one right.
To the Iraq thing ofcause they could have had weapons of mass destruction, but then again intelligence told us they didn't (i.e. Hans Blix)
****** was a dictator correct but so is the royal family in Saudi Arabia and whoever is leading Kuwait, so why Iraq? There were plenty of countries to choose from Saudia Arabia would make much more sense since they were harboring terrorists aswell and you could look outside the middle east the list of countries with dictators are quite long.
oh and by the way ****** was not a religious dictator, although my bet is, that is how iraq will end up when you choose to leave.
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diabolic clone
Anomaly Collective
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Posted - 2008.06.26 02:33:00 -
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I like McCain.
What's worse than the anti-christ? That's what I think of lobbyists in any case.
Whenever I have a discussion with people about Iraq it always generates this snide cynicism about weapons of mass destruction but hardly ever does anyone mention that Iraq was starting to stock pile and had used chemical weapons. They are not restricted to trench war fare and it was just a matter of time before he found an opportunity to equip guerrillas or jihadists with them to carry out the attacks he was afraid of receiving retaliation against for doing it himself. Ever wonder why a dictator would have a biologic weapon for destroying wheat crops?
Sure the whole war thing is a mess but what do you expect from a war. Took that reality a few years to set in for the people that wanted it in the first place, not that it really matters to the people that profit from it.
I think it is a mistake if America wants to cut loose and completely withdraw from Iraq even with all the bad publicity and people thinking Americans are violent and malevolent it will look like a sign of weakness and a new cycle of violence will start all over again.
America made it their mess and obligated themselves to developing a country that may not be ready for it yet. There have been a lot of technological advancements but civilization is still fragile and the U.S. has a lot of it's own work to do. Obama seems like too much of an idealist to me and just wants to play with a giant piggy bank.
Politics is boring sorry for the wall of text.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.26 04:54:00 -
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im from the US and i cant wait till November so i don't have to see any more of those lame ads. by the end of summer they will have run out of mud to sling and will resort to poo.
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.26 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Jernau Gurgeh
Edited by: Jernau Gurgeh on 25/06/2008 20:37:37
Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Xrak
Doesn't anyone else think that Mccain looks like he cant actually move properly and is about to have a heart attack at any moment?
Even if his policies weren't pretty awful I wouldn't vote for him simply because hes way too old.
Both sides have horrible policies, but between the two I think i'd rather vote for mccain simply because he has a better past record(obama has alot of...Dealings with racist and rather iffy people).
Just my two cents.
Yes, because McCain singing "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran" to the tune of the Beach Boys' Barbara Ann was in no way racist or iffy.
Like Iran doesnt deserve it...
But besides that, if you think talking to a dictator such as Iran's(honestly, I know his name I just cant spell it)would work you obviously dont take these guys seriously.
Why not though? After all Saudi Arabia has a worse human rights record than Iran (at least women are allowed to drive in Iran!) and yet the US seems to be very happy to talk to them.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Bahamma Momma
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Posted - 2008.06.26 09:25:00 -
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Obama..hands down.
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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.06.26 12:13:00 -
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obama lying at aipac - sucking up to israel and doing what israel wants
why do you think israel is a very important ally anyways?
because they think they are "gods chosen people" haha what a laugh.. jews are not gods chosen people, everything they are raised to believe is a lie and a falsification of history.
but "gods chosen people" have a lot of pull, as long as they keep saying that they are.
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Lilan Kahn
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.06.26 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7
obama lying at aipac - sucking up to israel and doing what israel wants
why do you think israel is a very important ally anyways?
because they think they are "gods chosen people" haha what a laugh.. jews are not gods chosen people, everything they are raised to believe is a lie and a falsification of history.
but "gods chosen people" have a lot of pull, as long as they keep saying that they are.
WTB more phail at history
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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.06.26 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lilan Kahn
WTB more phail at history
wts a clue?
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Bhaal
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.26 13:24:00 -
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I will vote for McCain, but Obama will win.
All I can hope for is a stalemate in congress for Obama's full term (hopefully only 4 years) so that he can't actually pass any of his ultra-liberal policies like national health care.
He's too far left of center to actually get anything done, so his presidency will just be a waste of time IMO.
I just can't see McCain winning though, Bush ruined it for Republicans this time around.
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Posted - 2008.06.26 13:53:00 -
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I rather like Obama, his approach to internationnal relation seem to be the most levelheaded, and not with letting personal feeling get in the way of crisis resolution.
I was wary of clinton, because she seems to be a particulary cynical politician, and too willing to resort to dirty tricks.
Huckabee, well, he was funny, sort of, but also scary. His claim that AIDS-infected people should be quarantined... Well, a raving lunatic, to say the least.
McCain, now, seem a bit more subtle, but I find him a lot more scary. He's displayed some worrying ignorance about the world outside US border, been already been caught lying about Irak (He was filmed saying it was safe to buy things at a market in Irak, but kept his bodyguards out of the camera field, and cut at editing the little fact that the seller he was chatting with said customers had to be carefull about snipers), and his various declarations about Irak stank of pig-headedness, even to the point of denying reality. In short, another Bush in the making, expect a potentially more energetic Bush.
I may be wrong, but that's the impression I have from them...
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Buxaroo
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.26 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Buxaroo on 26/06/2008 14:05:52
Edited by: Buxaroo on 26/06/2008 14:04:29
I would have voted for McCain in 2000 if he had gotten the nomination. But Bush and his cronies made sure he lost in South Carolina with a bunch of racist rumors about him having fathered a black child and thus lost the primary there. But the McCain of today.....he's too busy getting close and pandering to the ultra conservative religious morons who everyone thinks is the backbone of Republicans.
And his biggest mistake is wanting to stay the course in Iraq....there is no course. Out military is getting weaker by the day. Pull out, let them fall into chaos...they are going to anyways when we leave even if its 20 years from now.
So my money is on Obama. Regardless of some of his hypocrisies, he's going to make the better candidate long term. Some of the guys above me don't like the idea of universal healthcare. And your saying what we have is better? Every country has this except us. So what if it wreaks of socialism. If our system is broke and everyone else's isn't...
But the lynch pin to Obama getting my vote was the one thing he said that everyone else gave him flack over: "Bitter voters are turning to guns and religion". Yes, they are. To me that signals that he will be a rational thinker as opposed to going with your gut kind of stupidity that is the Bush thinking process or lack thereof.
Having said that, if McCain or Obama wins, we will be MUCH better of in America and the rest of world no matter who wins. Bush will go down as the worst presidency we have had in a very long while. Our constitution being trashed for partisan gains, our military becoming too stretched to go after REAL wars as opposed to stupid wars, economy on the rocks, oil prices sky rocketing thus effecting everything....all the while Bush is asleep at the wheel.
Are we better off than where we were in 2000? And no, CEO's need not respond.
If McCain wins, I hope all this pandering to the neocons was just an act...if it isn't.....then more of the same failed policies.
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.26 14:20:00 -
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Wow nice job guys, you all turned a thread that was origionally a simple"what does other countries think of the election thread"into a"omg israel is bad, both candidates suck rabble rabble fest".
Kudos.
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Bhaal
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.26 15:30:00 -
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And his biggest mistake is wanting to stay the course in Iraq....there is no course. Out military is getting weaker by the day. Pull out, let them fall into chaos...they are going to anyways when we leave even if its 20 years from now.
If they get the deal done b4 July (US & Iraq governments), US troops will be there much longer than 20 years. Most likley indefinitely like Korea...
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Posted - 2008.06.26 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
All I can hope for is a stalemate in congress for Obama's full term (hopefully only 4 years) so that he can't actually pass any of his ultra-liberal policies like national health care.
I reckon that if you were to ask the electorate in any country with a national health care system whether they wanted to get rid of it, the answer would be an overwhelming "no".
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Bhaal
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.26 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 26/06/2008 15:54:19
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Bhaal
All I can hope for is a stalemate in congress for Obama's full term (hopefully only 4 years) so that he can't actually pass any of his ultra-liberal policies like national health care.
I reckon that if you were to ask the electorate in any country with a national health care system whether they wanted to get rid of it, the answer would be an overwhelming "no".
You can keep it tbfh...
In any event, the Republicans will have enough seats in congress to block it. That's all I'm care about. Hillary tried the same liberal BS years ago as first lady.
I refuse to vote for lesser treatment than I get now, and have it cost me more money in taxes than what I currently pay in monthly insurance fees now. No thanks.
You'll find most Americans feel the same way, minus the ultra liberal tree hugger types, and of course those already lving off government programs.
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Posted - 2008.06.26 16:11:00 -
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Along the same lines, how do you foreigners think Americans should take foreign opinions of our elections? Should we care?
How would non americans feel about us offering opinions on who they should choose to lead them?
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.06.26 17:01:00 -
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Locked.
Please, no real life politics on the forums.
Mitnal
Community Representative
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