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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.06.27 16:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Neutrino Sunset
edit: Bollox, I just noticed Adhunh's post in this thread before me :(
I keep my eye out for these topics. :)
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Aria Seniste
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Posted - 2008.06.27 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Aria Seniste on 27/06/2008 16:21:59
Good ideas, but unfortunately EVE would have to be rebuilt to work any good sort of navigation overhaul in.
Changing the gameplay of an established MMO radically is not such a good idea.
Given the current system, adding more difficulty to navigation would likely only be frustrating rather than fun.. however, the "best" change I can think of would be:
More "clutter" in deep space.. and a manual "warp" option. Instead of just clicking "warp" and immediately moving from point A to point B, it'd be like a (much) faster version of flight. Without the invulnerability. Allow interceptors, using their faster warp speed, to chase a battleship down in warp and stop it.
Remove stargates, swapped for something similar that allows you to initiate a faster "warp" between solar systems... make them at the edge of a solar system (in a very localized manner so they can still be chokepoints. A smooth transition (Watch the old system fade into the distance and see yourself approaching the new one) as opposed to a "loading" screen that completely kills the illusion you're actually travelling somewhere,instead of merely loading a new area.
Also, make it possible to have encounters between systems.. interceptor chases, fights while in "warp" between them.. and then, of course, continued upon arrival. Basically.. make travel more real and active. Make piracy more about a hunt, rather than camping a gate... more fun to chase someone down in warp / between systems than to stare at a gate.. shoot.. stare... shoot.. and at the same time, it gives you an active chance to try to save yourself from hostiles. As opposed to jumping into a gate camp, saying welp, and dying, you might detect them closing in on you.. and react accordingly.
A bit of a rambling of vague ideas, but... these sort of things would make the game much more exciting. I'm not sure I'd want them implimented into EVE though: The game is several years old and, even if the resources were available, it'd be an entirely different game.
In any case, navigation should at least involve -some- thought... rather than just "Click warp. Click warp. Click warp.". Then again, I get the feeling most people don't like technicalities, and prefer things to be as simplified as possible. EX: Autopilot settings as opposed to having to chart your own course using the star map.
Tl;Dr version: Active navigation of any kind would be more interesting, but given the size of the EVE universe and how often we travel between solar systems.. it'd become tedious too quickly. If a single system was a big deal, and travel was less common, active travel might work. But not for EVE.
Edit: I agree with Shgoratchx completely. That's the sort of universe I'd prefer, but it's not EVE. You'd also need a much bigger playerbase to make that work. Large wars might occur between two factions in the same system, or one system apart; multiple nodes per solar system, where the local "gravity well" of a planet might be as big as a solar system in EVE is now. But you'd need a playerbase in the millions to make it work, and to fund the server, unless it just had less solar systems.. which defeats the point.
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Mire Stoude
Cash Money Brothers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.06.27 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: Mire Stoude on 27/06/2008 16:50:45
Originally by: Inertial
I agree, navigation in eve seems a little too bland.
Not when you're being chased by 3x vagabond, 2x sabre, 2x falcon, and a Geddon (for good measure).
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Aria Seniste
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Posted - 2008.06.27 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mire Stoude
Edited by: Mire Stoude on 27/06/2008 16:50:45
Originally by: Inertial
I agree, navigation in eve seems a little too bland.
Not when you're being chased by 3x vagabond, 2x sabre, 2x falcon, and a Geddon (for good measure).
The navigation itself is still just "Warp to zero. Warp to zero." with no changes. PVP encounters are always exciting, the navigation has nothing to do with the "excitement" here.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.06.27 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Dihania
indeed.
but there is a con to it: it will make travel take more time... which sucks far worse.
If space was more interesting why would you need to travel far?
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.27 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dihania
indeed.
but there is a con to it: it will make travel take more time... which sucks far worse.
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Tradella
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Posted - 2008.06.27 17:21:00 -
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You know why all the other MMOs have things like waypoints, instant travel to, portals, etc.? Oh, nope, you don't. 
Tradella
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Aria Seniste
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Posted - 2008.06.27 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tradella
You know why all the other MMOs have things like waypoints, instant travel to, portals, etc.? Oh, nope, you don't.
Tradella
The first time you make that journey, it might be exciting.
The 50th time, it's just tedious. Unfortunately.
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Phroneo
Caldari
Southern Cross Incorporated
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.27 17:57:00 -
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We could just make the warp in point variable so that it would ease the chockepoints a little. Keep stargates but make a 200km or more radius of random warp in locations.
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Central Research Nexus
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Posted - 2008.06.27 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Phroneo
We could just make the warp in point variable so that it would ease the chockepoints a little. Keep stargates but make a 200km or more radius of random warp in locations.
The moment I drop out of warp 200 km away from a gate in an Occator - or worse, an Obelisk - is the moment I quit Eve.
Or do you mean warping into a system via gate? That would completely destroy chokepoints, not alleviate them.
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Ogul
Caldari
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.06.27 18:50:00 -
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Nice idea, let's screw up one of the things that seems to actually work pretty well (travel). 
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Pithecanthropus
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Posted - 2008.06.27 19:01:00 -
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Edited by: Pithecanthropus on 27/06/2008 19:02:08
Navigating around something would only be good if you had consequences for running into something, otherwise its just lame busy work.
Even if it did happen, what's next... would we all buy starfighter joysticks? I think we should navigate around inside stations as your character. THAT would be cool. This way I could walk up to Tenou and ***** slap her.
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