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FORD ESC0RT
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:23:00 -
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read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
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VinkNut
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:25:00 -
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INNIT BRUVA.
tl dr. etc etc etc etc
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Haks'he Lirky
Dominion Imperium
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:27:00 -
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You have a point?
Some people do not like EVE, other people do?
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:28:00 -
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Dont read that thread, it will make your IQ drop.
--- Its dead, Jim.
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Chinger
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:29:00 -
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Uh.......ok? Honestly, I don't really care what they say or think, if they don't wanna play eve, so be it. If they wanna stereotype us as all as bullies and griefers so be it. I honestly don't care that they think we all are cowards and nerds sitting in our parents basements as 30yr olds with no love life. Hell it's that sorta thinking that drives griefing forward. But oh well, such is the internet.
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Farrqua
Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:29:00 -
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Proof positive of Darwinism in action.
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Haks'he Lirky
Dominion Imperium
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: VinkNut INNIT BRUVA.
tl dr. etc etc etc etc
TL, DR version: Somoene griefed/scammed/shot my ship and now I need to tell the world how nasty the Eve community is. We are all an accident waiting to happen, sooner or later we will all go out into the streets and overthrow the government with our vile evil selves.
Some people should just stick to Pac Man.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:34:00 -
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ITT: Proof that people whine about EVE outside of the EVE forums, too.
Next on the news: Should dogs in Amsterdam be allowed to lap up water in public? -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Cire XIII
Caldari Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Cire XIII on 28/06/2008 17:36:19 "The replies in this thread Quote: reveals
that Eve is in fact a haven for sadism"
This was the first thing I noticed when the page loaded. I can't be bothered to read anymore. However, from the replies in this thread it seems that the things which make Eve enjoyable to its members include some of the very same things that others hate.
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Faife
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:39:00 -
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ford esc0rt == eternal quitter
really, you'll enjoy other games more. |
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:41:00 -
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Why do you continue playing EVE if you dont like it. |

Zinras
Caldari Order of draugr
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:44:00 -
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Oh noes, someone doesn't like EVE!
Well, we must surely ask CCP to reprogram EVE right away. I mean, we may lose a person on a trial account! 
Also, how did he find out that the reason we shoot people is because daddy visited us at night? I thought it was an internet secret! |

Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.06.28 17:54:00 -
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Its just a bunch of carebears complaining about being ganked. Nothing to see here; Move along.
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Haakelen
Gallente Force d'action navale
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:04:00 -
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lol ford escort
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Amastat
Caldari Omegatech
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:07:00 -
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Edited by: Amastat on 28/06/2008 18:15:38 It's true that, EVE being the way it is, and the nature of EVE, attracts ****wads. We're lying to ourselves to deny that - there is no room for being polite to eachother, and helping eachother out in EVE (except on the corporate level, maybe), due to the dark nature of the game, and the competitive nature of the PvP system in place.
Heck - even in a lot of corporations, members are total asswads to eachother. Most alliances I've been in, and I've seen a lot over the years, don't even socialize on a large scale - they just fleet up when its time to, about the extent of working together. The corporations just keep to themselves, and have minimal mandatory interaction with the other alliance corporations - Could be they just aren't interested in each other, aren't on the same wavelength, or are even competitive (political tug, power, ISK).
Spying and Sabotage is a widely used tool in large scale warfare in this game as well - this is partly made possible because a lot of alliances like this are easy to corrupt or even divide/defect.
It may seem harsh, tense, and uptight - but welcome to EVE. Personally I'd rather tolerate this over the Myspace-like crap games like WoW.
It's a dark game with dark gamers - you can't seriously expect it will attract fairies and teddy bears, eh?
You cannot say that it is much worse than other games though - there are tons of other MMORPGS out there, and a lot of them are full of just as many, or almost as many, *******s.
The guy who was posting was going over the top though on our players being sadistic - this is just not true.
Most sadistic actions in EVE are just typical EVE PvP that soft gamers such as himself experience - they may get podded, lose SP, and be wardeced and camped all day - and think its sadistic. Well - hate to tell that poster, that it's in common practice - it's something we call Total Warfare. The poster is so used to the usual flowers and ice cream, he just couldn't see the real picture of things, or even fathom it - he just saw what he interrupted it as - though it is mostly exaggerated.
Don't get me wrong, EVE is full of griefs, but a lot of other MMORPGS are too. Try playing RF Online in example - you get camped/PK'ed on that game 90% of the time - you even get PK'ed by members of your own faction; this actually can make leveling difficult beyond level 30 - griefs can't disrupt the players ability to progress in EVE like they can here in RF Online.
But - yea, this isn't a pure PvE RP game with no PvP and dungeon raids like WoW - a game where guilds suck up to everyone they see, so they have a extra hand to do their little dungeon running. If players are too soft, they need to stay away from PvP oriented games - or learn to live with it, or even embrace it. |

FORD ESC0RT
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Esmenet Why do you continue playing EVE if you dont like it.
The game is fine but the community...
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Shagrath Neptune
Minmatar 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Shagrath Neptune on 28/06/2008 18:15:14
Originally by: Apoctasy Its just a bunch of carebears complaining about being ganked. Nothing to see here; Move along.
Some people were just not born to play pvp games.
There was one post in that thread where the guy compared the game to real life "rape" and called us all social paths.
Really though, it is people like that poster who have the deep rooted mental problems and issues. Anyone who takes a video game so seriously because they lost a pixelized spaceship should slowly move away from the computer, away from any sharp objects and put the straitjacket back on. |

Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Esmenet Why do you continue playing EVE if you dont like it.
The game is fine but the community...
I get more annoyed by real people on the subway with their disgusting smells, loud music and obnoxious constant mobile phone use.
The Eve community has never annoyed me even close to that level.
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Haakelen
Gallente Force d'action navale
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Esmenet Why do you continue playing EVE if you dont like it.
The game is fine but the community...
What you don't get is, the community is the game in Eve. |

Siberys
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:19:00 -
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quick, let us bash WoW to get back at him! |
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Zephyr Rengate
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Siberys quick, let us bash WoW to get back at him!
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Rhanna Khurin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Esmenet Why do you continue playing EVE if you dont like it.
The game is fine but the community...
Ironically the exact opposite thing we used to say about SWG |

Bomberos
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Posted - 2008.06.28 18:55:00 -
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That site is a joke
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:08:00 -
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Edited by: Jinx Barker on 28/06/2008 19:14:59
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT's ALT Post on MMORPG.com Eve...it is all about power and dominance. I think it's basically about sexual abuse and rape, personally, and expresses that trauma about as well as the corporate world which it emulates. Lots of deeply closeted people acting out their hurts on other people.
You got issues... seek help, now.
And no, my camp counselor did not touch me in naughty places when I was younger, nor did my daddy or my mommy. My grandparents, my high-school teacher or my nanny.
Edit:
Forgot to mention my neighbor, my neighbor did touch me in the naughty places, but I kinda liked it....
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:27:00 -
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::starts reading::
[quote...I like the free form open social structure of other mmorpgs, not being forced to join "corporations" (what a freaking drag); it is full of people who basically are bullies, only they don't even have the guts to risk their actual bodies, instead they engage in emotional cruelty against faceless players they have no responsibility towards
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At least in other games there is a sense of play and beauty along with the monsters and fantasy swordplay. Eve has no patience for that, it is all about power and dominance. I think it's basically about sexual abuse and rape, personally, and expresses that trauma about as well as the corporate world which it emulates. Lots of deeply closeted people acting out their hurts on other people.
That thread... 
Oh God, can't catch my breath... 
HAHAHAHAHA 
-Liang |

Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:36:00 -
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I Think We Should All Be Ashamed Of Ourselves(tm)
Serious bit: I've played a few games with nasty communities, it's actually quite fun. Certainly beats the public server run by that christian clan who've config'ed the server to autokick you if you type "pee pee" in teamchat.
Only thing I don't like about the Bastards of Eve is the whine factor. I've seen trolling/ jerkmonkey behavior on about this scale before but I've never anywhere on the internet seen so many people with their knickers in so much of a twist. |

Tyrantus
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: FORD ESC0RT How people feel about EVE outside this fanboi forum
Strange, by the first few pages of the GD on most days I'd say the flameboys outnumber the fanbois by several orders of magnitude if not even more. To the people crying emo tears in the linked thread: Funny that the handles on a pot of boiling water will burn your hand if you grab them without an insulated glove. Think about that one.  Loyal Member Of The 24th Imperial |

Mylo Myndabinda
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:47:00 -
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That link is the most pathetic thread I've ever read.
Thanks for that.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:48:00 -
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posting in a whine alt thread
Originally by: Cecil Montague They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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Pardack
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.28 19:49:00 -
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Edited by: Pardack on 28/06/2008 19:50:04 deleted
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Kryten Novascar
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:10:00 -
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this is just personal experience but... everytime somebody links to that site on a game forum it is a negative article about that game. so i generally don't click on mmorpg.com links in forums anymore. |

Shintai
Gallente Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Shintai on 28/06/2008 20:20:37 They wanted hello kitty online? Everyone sitting in a circle and singing? EvE is mainly for mature people that can handle setbacks. Not for whining teenagers and kids and people that brakes down if everything aint handed on a silverplatter with easymode.
EvE aint a dumb console game aimed at the lowest IQ and a preteen rating to sell abit more.
Also you know why they dont post here? They usually dont have an account and never tried the game. They want to "plz support my mmorpg. Either because they are diehard fanboys or their own mmorpg is failing with dropping subscribers. |

Hannobaal
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Esmenet Why do you continue playing EVE if you dont like it.
The game is fine but the community...
If you don't think people should be blowing up your ship, I would think it's the game and not the community you have a problem with. It's like playing chess with someone and then getting upset when they take one of your pieces. |

Black Leather
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Shintai Edited by: Shintai on 28/06/2008 20:20:37 EvE is mainly for mature people that can handle setbacks. Not for whining teenagers and kids...
LOL... just... LOL
Please have a read through the posts on the first page of GD alone and tell me what I just quoted isn't some kind of a joke.
Best 'tard statement I've read all day |

Tyrantus
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Black Leather
Originally by: Shintai Edited by: Shintai on 28/06/2008 20:20:37 EvE is mainly for mature people that can handle setbacks. Not for whining teenagers and kids...
LOL... just... LOL
Please have a read through the posts on the first page of GD alone and tell me what I just quoted isn't some kind of a joke.
Best 'tard statement I've read all day
Your confusing the forums with the game mate. Two totaly seperate entities with two totaly seperate player/forum bases with widely and wildly different goals and motivations. The population of the two might intermingle but the content provided and the players themselves are not the same.  |

Tzujeih
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:39:00 -
[36]
Quick, somebody other than myself, make my decisions for me! |

Jarl Isensonn
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
One of the people in this linked post complain about 2 year old players ganking new players. I have played since 2003, and I totaly love killing new and old players that mine outside minmatar space. If any of you have an account on that mmorPG kiddie forum, please tell them that Jarl think they suck at internet pixel manipulation in space. |

Shintai
Gallente Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tzujeih Quick, somebody other than myself, make my decisions for me!
So perfectly summoned up.
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Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry |

Tyrantus
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shintai
Originally by: Tzujeih Quick, somebody other than myself, make my decisions for me!
So perfectly summoned up.
New sig even if it is from a goon. 
Originally by: Tzujeih Quick, somebody other than myself, make my decisions for me!
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Artemis Rose
Eleckrostatik
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:57:00 -
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A lot of us play Eve because CCP took the in game gloves off to protect us from scams, grief, ganks and unsavory characters wishing to unsavory things to us.
Many other MMORPGs have in-game methods to protect you from all of this. Coming from a general MMORPG gaming site that has a bigger population of people playing games that protect you rather than not, how can you be surprised by their reactions? __________________________________________________
Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat. |
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Trathen
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.06.28 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Trathen on 28/06/2008 21:02:47 -edited-too descriptive-
Paraphrase: Stop trolling, please. |

Haakelen
Gallente Force d'action navale
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:04:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Trathen
Paraphrase: Stop posting, please.
i fixed your post you're welcome |

Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:11:00 -
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A link about people who dont "get" eve. how orignal. The day people like that want to play eve is the day i quit.
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Johnny Actinic
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:30:00 -
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While it's apparent from most of the posts in this thread that none of you actually bothered to read the linked thread, it's also apparent from actually reading it that there a lot of you whiny sods posting in it under other names.
It could be pulled right off this forum.
Carebears whining about this and gankers whining about that.
Attacking from PVPers to Non-PVPers and the opposite.
They're a little more open about their use of bots. (you know, the macros everyone pretends not to use and blame the Asian farmers)
But, for the most part, just like here. A little better behaved perhaps. |

Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
Jesus man, look at you. So you got beat up by some more experienced players in better ships, you cried like a little kid on the forum to get the rules changed so you can't lose, just like in the other games you played, and then you got beat up on the forum as well. And now this.
It's not about sex, it's not about *****or dominance.
It's about you being utterly immature, and that this time, even though you cried, even though you had your tantrum, even though you had your alt spam campaign, even though you held you breath until you were going to DIE!!!1...
You didn't get your way this time, because your mom's not in charge of EvE.
It's not even a case of "Welcome to EvE". It's just "Welcome to the real world, kid". |

Amira Silvermist
24th Providence Templar Division
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Posted - 2008.06.28 21:31:00 -
[46]
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
Best post evar! Reminds me how great it is to read mmorpg.com shortly after EVE won some awards.  |

FORD ESC0RT
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
Jesus man, look at you. So you got beat up by some more experienced players in better ships, you cried like a little kid on the forum to get the rules changed so you can't lose, just like in the other games you played, and then you got beat up on the forum as well. And now this.
It's not about sex, it's not about *****or dominance.
It's about you being utterly immature, and that this time, even though you cried, even though you had your tantrum, even though you had your alt spam campaign, even though you held you breath until you were going to DIE!!!1...
You didn't get your way this time, because your mom's not in charge of EvE.
It's not even a case of "Welcome to EvE". It's just "Welcome to the real world, kid".
I didn't post anything in that MMORPG.com thread. I was just pointed out a conversation on another forum about EVE. Dumbass. |

Hannobaal
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.28 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
Jesus man, look at you. So you got beat up by some more experienced players in better ships, you cried like a little kid on the forum to get the rules changed so you can't lose, just like in the other games you played, and then you got beat up on the forum as well. And now this.
It's not about sex, it's not about *****or dominance.
It's about you being utterly immature, and that this time, even though you cried, even though you had your tantrum, even though you had your alt spam campaign, even though you held you breath until you were going to DIE!!!1...
You didn't get your way this time, because your mom's not in charge of EvE.
It's not even a case of "Welcome to EvE". It's just "Welcome to the real world, kid".
I didn't post anything in that MMORPG.com thread. I was just pointed out a conversation on another forum about EVE. Dumbass.
You obviously agree and feel similarly or you wouldn't have posted it (at least not in the way you did it). |

rValdez5987
Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment
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Posted - 2008.06.28 23:03:00 -
[49]
Dear god. I couldn't even read the whole post.
Who cares whether or not someone likes eve. If they don't like EVE then they can just choose not to play.
I love the tears seriously. Its the tears that kept me pirating when I first started playing eve, and its the tears that might get me to go back to pirating. Your misery is my happiness because you don't know to protect yourself.
___________________________________________________________ I'd rather die standing and fighting, then Live on my knees |

Lucy'Lastic
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Posted - 2008.06.28 23:31:00 -
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FORD ESCORT is the guy who thinks Nanos are exploits, multi Accounting is cheating, and Interceptors are just 'Too fast for his Drake'. 
c/d
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.06.28 23:37:00 -
[51]
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
Jesus man, look at you. So you got beat up by some more experienced players in better ships, you cried like a little kid on the forum to get the rules changed so you can't lose, just like in the other games you played, and then you got beat up on the forum as well. And now this.
It's not about sex, it's not about *****or dominance.
It's about you being utterly immature, and that this time, even though you cried, even though you had your tantrum, even though you had your alt spam campaign, even though you held you breath until you were going to DIE!!!1...
You didn't get your way this time, because your mom's not in charge of EvE.
It's not even a case of "Welcome to EvE". It's just "Welcome to the real world, kid".
I didn't post anything in that MMORPG.com thread. I was just pointed out a conversation on another forum about EVE. Dumbass.
Did I say you made that post? No, I did not.
I stand by my post.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Ranger 1
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.28 23:39:00 -
[52]
Some people apparently don't like any degree of realism or risk in their gaming experience.
Fair enough, thats why other games exist. It's fairly silly to want EVE to change its nature because you find you don't like a game with seedy realism.
Hello Kitty or The Sims exist for a reason.
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Hannobaal
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.28 23:39:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Lucy'Lastic FORD ESCORT is the guy who thinks Nanos are exploits, multi Accounting is cheating, and Interceptors are just 'Too fast for his Drake'. 
c/d
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recruit me |

Krasnij Okjabre
Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.06.29 00:02:00 -
[54]
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
I has read 'da post'.
Found the responses more amusing tbh. Stopped reading yours halfway. Sorry. 
Kras. |

Maritz
Gallente Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.29 00:10:00 -
[55]
It's a game. If you don't like it, don't play it, and certainly don't bother posting.
Haven't you anything better to do ? Very well... Give him CAKE
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Jobaker
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Posted - 2008.06.29 02:21:00 -
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Here's my two cents:
Frankly I love this game.
I lost a Cane in a gate camp the other day: loved it. Someone called me nasty names in local recently: loved it. Goons own too much space and makes it prohibitive, though not impossible, to own any nullsec of my own: love it. Got podded in 7q and lost a head full of +4's: loved it. Never fell for a scam myself, but they're allowed and even encouraged: love it. Lost my computer for a month cause of the boot.ini problem: ok didn't love that one too much but I got over it. Returning these same favors: Hell, I love that even more.
Am I a sadist? Evidently, but I teach high school kids for a living, so I kinda knew that to begin with. Am I some immoral deviant because I enjoy a game that allows such devious behavior? Well, I'm also an atheist so that may be true too; however, the connection between in game behavior and out of game behavior is tenuous: I have never stolen goods, killed or harmed a person, or carjacked someone only to sell their car back to them, though when I die, I can say that I have experienced such things, thanks to this game, without having to trouble myself with the morality of said experience. I suspect the credit card company I use to pay for my account is far more devious than I am (Goons beware when AmEx starts an alliance). The bottom line here is that we, humanity, have urges that defy social norms, and yet here is a game that allows anyone with 15 bucks a month to express these very urges without fear of corrupting the social values in place in our real life communities. Does this make us all sadists? Hardly. In fact, its seems to me like it makes us all the more rational adults who recognize the necessity of separating the devious behavior we love from the real world where it might actually hurt someone. If you were ever actually hurt when you lost a months worth of work to a griefer in Jita...well, I think maybe you shouldn't be on the computer at all, you obviously have some psychological issues you should be discussing with a professional--and since it seems you won't be playing anymore, can I have your stuff?
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Azzma
Amarr TalCorp Enterprises Einherjar Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.29 03:24:00 -
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lol one guy in that thread was talking about how eve players should be tried under some new EU law about organizing hatred lol all you nerds are so lame lol |

Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2008.06.29 05:14:00 -
[58]
When I occasionally play other MMOs (I'm currently being bored with Age of Conan), there seem to be a lot of misconceptions and such based on people who maybe tried the 14-day trial and it wasn't what they were expecting and thus they think the combat sucks, or that new players will never catch up and thus it sucks, or that there was a scandal involving devs helping players out one time long ago and thus CCP are a bunch of evil people.
In short, there is a lot of misinformation and half-informed opinions out there, which makes me kind of sad. I try to correct people who spout this nonsense, but it usually doesn't take. So many people say the combat sucks, but it's far deeper than WoW, for instance, and there is also tons to do besides combat, unlike most MMOs. I think they're expecting a game where you pilot a fighter in the*****pit. |

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.06.29 05:15:00 -
[59]
Quote: In this way it is not unlike the internet in general. It's not for me
wait wait or this guy is saying that eve is like the internet, and thus is why the internet is not for him? well hell if you don't like the internet your not going to like any online game. |

McRuder
Gallente Quality Dogfood
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Posted - 2008.06.29 05:17:00 -
[60]
Since you linking from that forum, here is a post I thought was very funny (with some truth inside): Linkage |
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Xelios Xarxes
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Posted - 2008.06.29 05:30:00 -
[61]
I feel completely enlightened now.
Not. |

Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.06.29 08:26:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Quelque Chose *edit* That said though I have joined some communities on the net and later decided I didn't like them very much. Know what I did?
I left. 
This this this.
What the hell, OP? The whole world is out there, full of incredible things to see and do. Why are you wasting time on the forum of a spaceship game that you don't like? Its absurd. |

Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.06.29 08:29:00 -
[63]
Oh and also, using the word "Fanboi" makes you sounds like a real tool. |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.29 08:43:00 -
[64]
you only get griefed if you put yourself in a position to be greifed 
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Lupra Nermona
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Posted - 2008.06.29 09:05:00 -
[65]
Originally by: McRuder Since you linking from that forum, here is a post I thought was very funny (with some truth inside): Linkage
This initial posting is nice to read - but too onesided: too much mistrust. The most of peoples in our corp know each other in RL. So WE can trust each other.
On the other side, EVE is as RL - look for the right enemies or be lazy and you are lost.
___ You think you are living a democracy? Do you know what it means? |

Harper Ei
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Posted - 2008.06.29 09:07:00 -
[66]
Well. I suppose he is right!
At least the 20% of palyers that do PVP could be characterised in this manner.
The rest of them. I dont know.
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Valan
The Fated Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.06.29 09:25:00 -
[67]
Always makes me laugh when people that fail in game attempt to lable their nemesis as having real life problems and personality disorders.
In fact if you label a person this way its you has the disorder and can't separate the game from reality. Why you would feel that strongly about a game to label some one with those traits is beyond me? Is their ego that fragile that they have justify their loss in a real world context?
I have to say I've met some cool people through EVE. If you find yourself sobbing at your computer and wishing death threats upon a scammer see a doctor. |

Frenetick
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Posted - 2008.06.29 11:12:00 -
[68]
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
Not going to follow this link, life's too short, but didn't you make some ******** post about something needing nerfing or some such crap last week? Then got dissed and this is your ultimate revenge?
You lost the moment you called yourself FORD ESCORT 
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Torlin Valric
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.29 11:44:00 -
[69]
I agree with the op. Eve is a crappy game and the community is even more..
gtg server is up again
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Stitcher
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2008.06.29 11:47:00 -
[70]
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT The game is fine but the community...
Are, by and large, a group of 24-carat gold individuals.
Too bad all of them avoid these forums because nearly everybody in here is pants-on-head ********. |
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Xercies Ravere
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Posted - 2008.06.29 12:00:00 -
[71]
Oh dear the WoW players in an MMORPG EVE Online thread, how original. I have been there and its just stupid thread after stupid thread. Should EVE have a PVE only server? Should EVe get rid of its full loot and salvage system? Should EVE become more like WOW? No, No, and No. EVE Online is good because you can reveal your more sadistic side without the morality of laws, EVE is good because it gives you a heart attack every time you go into 0.0 space, what WOW PVP gave me was some more loot and told me to do it again. Scammers make you want to kill the scammers, pirates make you cautious, fleet on fleet warfare makes you think about what to have in a group situation. This is true Massively Multiplayer, and not a kiddies version of it where you can solo about anything and the only thing you do once you get to level 70 is kill the same dragon over and over again to get gear which will be useless by next expansion.
I also find it funny that the guy thinks that everyone plays EVE has been raped by their daddies and trying to put the deep emotinal problems that has caused in an online space ship game. That gave me my lols this morning.  |

Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.06.29 12:54:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Stakhanov on 29/06/2008 12:54:25
Originally by: McRuder Since you linking from that forum, here is a post I thought was very funny (with some truth inside): Linkage
Haha , I love how this guide is supposed to avoid newbies disappointment and pain , and then :
Quote: Then go and buy a lot of Time Cards, sell them, buy a decent character, and get your bum into some decent ships. Whyever would anyone be bothered to claw their way up a glass wall? Do not bother to train up a character if its your first character, you going to do it wrong and waste a year. Buy one, then learn to play. After 6 months you will either sell it and stop playing, or start a new character knowing how to do it right.
Yes , yes. Noobs following this guide , thinking they are smarter than everyone else , and losing honortanked dreads. That's as good as it gets 
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Sirion Fujiwara
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Posted - 2008.06.29 13:35:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 28/06/2008 18:17:50
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Esmenet Why do you continue playing EVE if you dont like it.
The game is fine but the community...
I get more annoyed by real people on the subway with their disgusting smells, loud music and obnoxious constant mobile phone use. Not to mention the slowest people have a urge to get out in front of everybody and walk really slowly. Or stand still, messing around with their backpack in the middle of a thin lane where people need to get by, without having a care in the world.
The Eve community has never annoyed me even close to that level.
Hahaha... This is hilarious: Your little tirade against other people on the tube reveals beautifully precisely why you enjoy EVE. Your RL is so frustrating, that EVE is your only way of getting back at 'the world'! Oh man - if only you could see that yourself 
Or maybe I've just een trolled 
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Ren Surkova
Down In Flames
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Posted - 2008.06.29 14:10:00 -
[74]
seriously though everybody else is filth and imma beautiful eve-playin snowflake *watches taxi driver fight club and seven consecutively* *misinterprets each films message* *models adolescense on it* *tells the eve forums how everyone at the subway is somehow beneath me and my escapist powertrip fantasys*
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.29 14:13:00 -
[75]
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
Why did you make this thread ? We have enough wine-threads on eve forums, there is no need to import such threads from other forums.
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nahtoh
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.06.29 14:56:00 -
[76]
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
Jesus man, look at you. So you got beat up by some more experienced players in better ships, you cried like a little kid on the forum to get the rules changed so you can't lose, just like in the other games you played, and then you got beat up on the forum as well. And now this.
It's not about sex, it's not about *****or dominance.
It's about you being utterly immature, and that this time, even though you cried, even though you had your tantrum, even though you had your alt spam campaign, even though you held you breath until you were going to DIE!!!1...
You didn't get your way this time, because your mom's not in charge of EvE.
It's not even a case of "Welcome to EvE". It's just "Welcome to the real world, kid".
I didn't post anything in that MMORPG.com thread. I was just pointed out a conversation on another forum about EVE. Dumbass.
So whats the point about abusive players?
Oh Wait... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.29 15:41:00 -
[77]
A game that is harsh and difficult has people who dislike it? Surely not! |

RuleoftheBone
Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.06.29 16:57:00 -
[78]
Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 29/06/2008 16:58:49 Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 29/06/2008 16:57:38 Highlight reel (quotes from that thread... ):
-Sometimes, these boards make Eve sound like a cross between 2nd Life and Grand Theft Auto, honestly.
-Ppl in Eve these days seem mean and angry, I dont know how else to describe it, its like they're not playing a game, they're trying to hurt others THRU the game.
-EVE Online is great for weeding out the sociopaths in society.
-People in organizations like Goonsquad are cowardly sociopaths. They know that if they acted like they do online in real life, that they'd get there rear-ends kicked by someone bigger and stronger.
-I am a returning EVE player, having been Ganked three years ago and lost everthing I had to a griefer. Weeks of work and effort down the drain.
I returned recently in the hopes of finding a good game as I saw the ratings here at MMORPG and they were good. I had hoped that some of these issues had been resolved.
Once again, got jumped, lost weeks of work. I cancelled my account and uninstalled the game immediately.
If I want this type of excitement, then I will stuff $20's coming out of my pockets and take a walk in Central Park at night.
I have to agree that this is a game where sociopaths can have their way with other folks. If anyone thinks that this is entertainment, then I most humbly point out that our prisons are full of folks who think the same way.
 
I have to ask...people like this...do they ever leave the house and experience reality?

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NightmareX
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.06.29 17:21:00 -
[79]
Edited by: NightmareX on 29/06/2008 17:21:32 LOL, the crybaby in that link was talking about boohooo 2-3 years old players are killing newer players and industrial players. Ehhh do it looks like we care about that?. We just want to see some pretty explosions. Noob or a veteran player doesn't have anything for me to say. I want to see the explosions, booooooom boom boom.
I'm a little over 4 years old in this game, and i don't care about who i shoot. |

An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.06.29 17:24:00 -
[80]
What was that article that hard the different MMO forum poster types? Because this guy is the textbook version of the Eternal Quitter. |
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Evolving Paradigms
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Posted - 2008.06.29 18:28:00 -
[81]
Search Ford's other posts, you all just got had by a ******
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.06.29 18:32:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Grath Telkin Search Ford's other posts, you all just got had by a ******
Yeah, that's usually what happens when you listen to what a *car* is saying.... -------- Ideas for: Mining Vote! |

Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.29 20:05:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
Jesus man, look at you. So you got beat up by some more experienced players in better ships, you cried like a little kid on the forum to get the rules changed so you can't lose, just like in the other games you played, and then you got beat up on the forum as well. And now this.
It's not about sex, it's not about *****or dominance.
It's about you being utterly immature, and that this time, even though you cried, even though you had your tantrum, even though you had your alt spam campaign, even though you held you breath until you were going to DIE!!!1...
You didn't get your way this time, because your mom's not in charge of EvE.
It's not even a case of "Welcome to EvE". It's just "Welcome to the real world, kid".
So you think you just "owned" someone on the forum. You shouldn't use words like "immature" in your post, since that is exactly what you are and this reply proves it.  |

Bad Harlequin
Minmatar The Harlequinade
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Posted - 2008.06.29 20:10:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky sooner or later we will all go out into the streets and overthrow the government
wait, that's supposed to be bad?
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Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
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Posted - 2008.06.29 20:25:00 -
[85]
THIS FORUM is full of FANBOIS.
OH. MAHGAWD y'all. I am SOOOOOOOOOOO SURE. So sure.  ___________________________________________
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.06.29 21:43:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
Jesus man, look at you. So you got beat up by some more experienced players in better ships, you cried like a little kid on the forum to get the rules changed so you can't lose, just like in the other games you played, and then you got beat up on the forum as well. And now this.
It's not about sex, it's not about *****or dominance.
It's about you being utterly immature, and that this time, even though you cried, even though you had your tantrum, even though you had your alt spam campaign, even though you held you breath until you were going to DIE!!!1...
You didn't get your way this time, because your mom's not in charge of EvE.
It's not even a case of "Welcome to EvE". It's just "Welcome to the real world, kid".
So you think you just "owned" someone on the forum. You shouldn't use words like "immature" in your post, since that is exactly what you are and this reply proves it. 
I'm quite happy to admit that I'm an overgrown kid if that pleases you. I'm untidy, rather irresponsible and quite lazy. The one vice I don't permit myself is self-deception though. I'm well aware of my shortcomings and I don't cry like a little girl and try and blame everyone else for the consequences of them.
tl;dr: no u |

Karentaki
Gallente The Devils Brigade The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.06.29 22:23:00 -
[87]
OMFG! IT SAYS IT ON THE INTERWEBS! IT MUST BE TRUE!!! |

Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.06.29 23:03:00 -
[88]
I've heard of people ... and this may just be rumour, but I've heard of people that if they don't like something, actually leave. Because they realise that they don't have to hang around and that they have some say in whether they play the game or not.
c/d? |

Snake Tanuki
ZiTek
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Posted - 2008.06.29 23:34:00 -
[89]
Come on, EVE isn't that bad, from a neutral point of view. Japanese puke p0rn is worse. By far. And people still like it.  |

Ekrid
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Posted - 2008.06.30 03:10:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Torlin Valric I agree with the op. Eve is a crappy game and the community is even more..
gtg server is up again
quoted for the epicness.
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Gosh Krux
Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.30 15:24:00 -
[91]
What's funny, is that the EvE community is about a billion times more mature than any other MMO community out there.
Not like that's saying a WHOLE lot or anything tho.... Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |

Bleeshtar
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Posted - 2008.06.30 16:21:00 -
[92]
Yea I read some of the linked post from another forum.
But do yourself a favor, read the anchor post to that thread (first post) instead of page 6 of the thread as linked.
The anchor post, at least in my opinion raises some valid points.
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knifee
Caldari Euphoria Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.30 16:41:00 -
[93]
Originally by: An Anarchyyt Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 29/06/2008 17:26:55 What was that article that hard the different MMO forum poster types? Because this guy is the textbook version of the Eternal Quitter.
Edit: Found it.
That's funny... needs pasting to more of the militia/nano threads.
www.eve-dev.net - making a good thing better
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.06.30 16:43:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 30/06/2008 16:43:34
Originally by: Sirion Fujiwara
Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 28/06/2008 18:17:50
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT
Originally by: Esmenet Why do you continue playing EVE if you dont like it.
The game is fine but the community...
I get more annoyed by real people on the subway with their disgusting smells, loud music and obnoxious constant mobile phone use. Not to mention the slowest people have a urge to get out in front of everybody and walk really slowly. Or stand still, messing around with their backpack in the middle of a thin lane where people need to get by, without having a care in the world.
The Eve community has never annoyed me even close to that level.
Hahaha... This is hilarious: Your little tirade against other people on the tube reveals beautifully precisely why you enjoy EVE. Your RL is so frustrating, that EVE is your only way of getting back at 'the world'! Oh man - if only you could see that yourself 
Or maybe I've just een trolled 
Your conclusion is not really accurate, but at least amusing. :)
I like my life AND I like the game. Imagine that...
I dont like riding along with garlic smelling people who sneeze in my face, but thats just normal to me.
--- Its dead, Jim.
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Indigo Johnson
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.06.30 17:01:00 -
[95]
Eve as a greifing game? Please, its hardly that ... it could be alot lot worse.
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Sarin Adler
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.30 17:20:00 -
[96]
fanboi forum? Please don't make me laught, the level of trolling & ranting is high amongst here, as it should, like any other gaming company forum  |

Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2008.07.02 04:53:00 -
[97]
Originally by: FORD ESC0RT read da post
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/14/view/forums/post/2022745#2022745
Your stuff. Contract it to me if you wouldn't mind, and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Thanks,
Karlemgne
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.02 06:50:00 -
[98]
Dear sir,
In the light of yours leaving our, apparently, beleaguered community I would like to discuss the possibility of acquiring your assets -- if you do happen to possess any.
Please contact me or my representative, Trash Folder, on the first occasion convenient to you.
(Why, WHY, are you still here, you mentally handicapped meat-bag!?)
Originally by: Roxanna Kell You are insane.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.08.17 16:25:00 -
[99]
you mean uneducated people that havent even experienced eve more than for a few hours? Trashed sig, Shark was here |

Eran Laude
Gallente The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.08.17 16:26:00 -
[100]
Originally by: SiJira you mean uneducated people that havent even experienced eve more than for a few hours?
Stop the necro's
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Terranid Meester
Tactical Assault and Recon Unit
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Posted - 2008.08.17 16:51:00 -
[101]
Whenever I feel the urge to read an mmorpg.com forum post I immediately regret it.
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.17 16:55:00 -
[102]
When you make a game/product/whatever, not everyone will like it.
For instance, I think WoW sucks. So, logically, Blizzard must quit, apologize, disband and sell shoes for a living. Right?
Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |

Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.08.17 16:55:00 -
[103]
I love reading MMORPG.com, while EVE-O can occasionally run out of ******s, MMORPG.com has an inexhaustible supply.
I pity people who cannot understand EVE. Obviously it is not for everyone, but to completely misconstrue the game as the quoted post does indicates a very blinkered view of what gaming can be, and an interest in only the shallowest of games. A pity, for them. Lulz for us though. -
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