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Fay DeLion
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.06.29 13:02:00 -
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Edited by: Fay DeLion on 29/06/2008 13:03:12
With people in FW posting in General Topics & on COAD, we need a place where they can post about subjects on FW. This will clean up the mess a little.
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Gone'Postal
Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2008.06.29 14:10:00 -
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Questions, Comments, Problems, Please address them to the CSM..
Now CCP Never have to visit the forum.
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.29 20:27:00 -
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Agreed |
Acidictadpole
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering
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Posted - 2008.06.29 20:45:00 -
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Agree
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Sarin Adler
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.06.29 21:04:00 -
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CCP is slow |
Venkul Mul
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Posted - 2008.06.29 22:38:00 -
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Kovid
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.06.29 23:03:00 -
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Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions - Organization can equal militia. "This is the corporation and alliance version of the Intergalactic Summit. All interaction on this forum is in-character and between corporations or alliances, not individual characters." Seems appropiate. But no one wants to post there because of the crap that is posted in there. Blame your fellow players for this. But it provides an OOC forum to discuss things.
Corporations and Alliances Summit - Change title to Corporations, Alliances, and Militias Summit. "This forum is for the discussion of ingame politics, conflicts, and other matters regarding player corporations, alliances and organizations in EVE. News and press releases may also be posted here for information and/or discussion." In-character forum. To be honest a lot of IGS stuff should probably go here but since IGS is much more active. The rp in the past has been small so I suspect people rather just put stuff where the most traffic is and it wasn't here. This is a good candidate to be 'adopted' for factional warfare material.
Intergalactic Summit (AKA IGS) - "An in-character, roleplaying area for forum members to plot, scheme, forge alliances or declare intentions of war." This is a regular discussion for people involved in factional warfare among other things. It's in-character so some of the rabble is filtered out. Currently much discussion about FW is happening here.
Factional Warfare is born in roleplay just like everything technically is. Try it out you may like it and find it makes the game a little more than just something like a shooter.
So no, you do not need a forum, but you may want to suggest changing descriptions of current forums. In the meantime just bring up topics there.
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Nexus Kinnon
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.06.29 23:22:00 -
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Who posts seriously in caod though?
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Raymon James
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.30 05:41:00 -
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Tmarte
Explora Empire
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.06.30 07:07:00 -
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Azuraito
Capital Produce
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.06.30 11:23:00 -
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FW needs it own forums space, too much idiots posting on CAOD!
I support it.
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Da'Neth
Federation Zone Operations Command
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Posted - 2008.06.30 13:37:00 -
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yes yes FW needs it own. |
Threv Echandari
K Directorate
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Posted - 2008.06.30 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Threv Echandari on 30/06/2008 16:54:18
Agreed, While Kovid makes some valid Points about the other Forumsm they are just too Tainted in the eyes of Many Players
CAOD= Goon/BoB Crap Most players in FW don't give a flying Donkey about what the 0.0 people are doing to each other.
The other summits are RP only and while that is nice, the FW topics cover a lot of Non RP topics and therefore are "Not Welcome" there, and the RP'rs are already defensive about people playing in their pool.And some non RP people don't want to hear RP Arguements/ whatever when they want to discuss game mechanics. That said making Corporations and Alliances Summit to Corporations, Alliances, and Militia Summit and remove the Inc character/RP Restriction would do it.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.07.04 16:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Kovid
Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions - Organization can equal militia. "This is the corporation and alliance version of the Intergalactic Summit. All interaction on this forum is in-character and between corporations or alliances, not individual characters." Seems appropiate. But no one wants to post there because of the crap that is posted in there. Blame your fellow players for this. But it provides an OOC forum to discuss things.
Corporations and Alliances Summit - Change title to Corporations, Alliances, and Militias Summit. "This forum is for the discussion of ingame politics, conflicts, and other matters regarding player corporations, alliances and organizations in EVE. News and press releases may also be posted here for information and/or discussion." In-character forum. To be honest a lot of IGS stuff should probably go here but since IGS is much more active. The rp in the past has been small so I suspect people rather just put stuff where the most traffic is and it wasn't here. This is a good candidate to be 'adopted' for factional warfare material.
Intergalactic Summit (AKA IGS) - "An in-character, roleplaying area for forum members to plot, scheme, forge alliances or declare intentions of war." This is a regular discussion for people involved in factional warfare among other things. It's in-character so some of the rabble is filtered out. Currently much discussion about FW is happening here.
Factional Warfare is born in roleplay just like everything technically is. Try it out you may like it and find it makes the game a little more than just something like a shooter.
So no, you do not need a forum, but you may want to suggest changing descriptions of current forums. In the meantime just bring up topics there.
Can't fault Kovid's reasoning here. I think it would a bad idea to shuffle FW off to its own ghetto forum. Its supposed to be a bridge for new players to experience alliance level warfare AND as a mechanic to allow the eve plotline to be influenced and experienced by existing players. Eve is a single server environment where everything is interconnected - FW should never get hived away into a little instance all of its own.
I support changing the descriptions of the categories Kovid suggests but oppose setting up entirely new forums for FW.
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zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.04 20:35:00 -
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agreed
needs a seperate spot for fw
i was yust looking for abit info about fw, hows it gooing etc and its a mess
when seperate it wil be alot easier to stay uptodate
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Siebenthal
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Posted - 2008.07.15 15:54:00 -
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voorsk
Sten Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.24 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: voorsk on 24/07/2008 13:10:32
I agree totally!
It's hard to find FW info, because it's split up over every forum. Also, as someone noted in a different thread, CAOD doesn't allow players from militias to post, because militias aren't player corporations.
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Jannet Montard
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Posted - 2008.07.24 13:41:00 -
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Mister Xerox
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Posted - 2008.07.24 13:45:00 -
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Other than the RP section, even...
Definately supported.
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.07.24 15:38:00 -
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If you want to fix CAOD, keeping FW out of it isn't the answer. Think of why it's bad now. 
FW has IG and CAS, they are MORE than welcome there.
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Larg Kellein
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.07.24 17:02:00 -
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Yes, please have FW shuffle off into its own corner of the universe instead of crowding General Discussion with reports of who captured some complex with 3 frigates...
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Malen Nenokal
Eden Federal Recon
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Posted - 2008.07.24 22:11:00 -
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Agreed, I would love to have a FW section.
Eden Federal Recon
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Arodi
0rdo Batavi
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Posted - 2008.07.31 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Can't fault Kovid's reasoning here. I think it would a bad idea to shuffle FW off to its own ghetto forum. Its supposed to be a bridge for new players to experience alliance level warfare AND as a mechanic to allow the eve plotline to be influenced and experienced by existing players. Eve is a single server environment where everything is interconnected - FW should never get hived away into a little instance all of its own.
I support changing the descriptions of the categories Kovid suggests but oppose setting up entirely new forums for FW.
Well the descriptions havent been changed yet, and the fact of the matter is that IGS is full of roleplay, where you really don't want to mess things up with FW OOC posters, CAS is way more dead then a zombie, and CAOD just isnt the place to throw FW discussions in, as will be felt by both FW and Alliance players. As it is now, most stuff is posted in general, where it doesnt belong either.
NOTHING and I repeat NOTHING in forum descriptions, sections or threads points to info about FW, so the person who wants to read about it has to skim through everything to find anything.
On the boards is where the forum pvp should be happening, where the vendettas shud rise, where ppl can read at work about what battles with what results are happening, and that will keep ppl in the game, fafa FW is concerned. All you can see now is the stats page and thats it. And even there nuthing is happening, besides more and more ppl quitting on FW.
Im not even involved in FW, heck, Im not even actively playing. I just visit these boards to see if FW is hot enuf to get me back into the game, and tbh what I see in terms of facilitating from CCP isnt very encouraging. Ur doing something halfway, n not finishing it off or doing it properly. Learn from other RvR games where things are indeed kicking.
Not having flamewars is BAD, coz it only shows there is rivalry and competition, which is what FW desperately needs. Dont be afraid to put some extra forum mod attention on it, u shud be stimulating this if FW is to survive as a viable concept at all.
Giving FW a forum is not putting it away in a ghetto, it means facilitating and stimulating it, giving it public face and recognition. It is stuffed away in a ghetto as it is now. Heck, there isnt even a ghetto at present! As it is now, theres just NOTHING. Giving it a platform = not hiving it away. If you cant see that, you just never did any RvR.
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Arodi
Caldari
0rdo Batavi
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Posted - 2008.07.31 23:56:00 -
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I stand corrected. There isnt just nothing. No. There's a sticky in the EVE General discussion.
And? Hold your breath, there's actually info stickied in the *drums* Game Development section.
Now why couldn't I think of that?
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Meridius Dex
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.01 13:51:00 -
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COAD is the sewer pit of the forums, nothing constructive or even interesting is ever posted there. I have no interest in visiting COAD, let alone posting there (even though I was active in a 0.0 alliance for a long time).
Hell, even Scrapheap Challenge - who create an atmosphere of smack talk and silly obnoxiousness on their forums - banned their version of COAD because it was nothing but mindless, juvenile flaming garbage like the one here.
Give FW it's own forums for tactical reasons, if nothing else. It should have stickies for maps, active player corps, etc.
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Arodi
Caldari
0rdo Batavi
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Posted - 2008.08.02 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius Dex
COAD is the sewer pit of the forums.
This. Which is why you wouldn't want a FW forum in there.
Originally by: Meridius Dex
Give FW it's own forums for tactical reasons, if nothing else. It should have stickies for maps, active player corps, etc.
For these reasons, and for a little feuding I'd say. And for some battle reports that details the course of the action if a system is taken, or an important battle was held. Then both sides can discuss.
But it should have been there from the start. Just take a stroll along all the boards and count how many FW threads you can find in the different sections. If you can find a total 12 on the first 3 pages of all the boards collectively, you're a big guy. There's been no area to adopt here by FW players. Boo.
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Arodi
Caldari
0rdo Batavi
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Posted - 2008.08.05 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius Dex
Give FW it's own forums for tactical reasons, if nothing else. It should have stickies for maps, active player corps, etc.
Info needs to be concentrated, coz its dispersed over too many different sections now.
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Zaskarr
Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2008.08.05 14:16:00 -
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what's the problem CCP?
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Esmenet
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Posted - 2008.08.05 14:37:00 -
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TornSoul
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.08.06 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
I think it would a bad idea to shuffle FW off to its own ghetto forum. Its supposed to be a bridge for new players to experience alliance level warfare AND as a mechanic to allow the eve plotline to be influenced and experienced by existing players. Eve is a single server environment where everything is interconnected - FW should never get hived away into a little instance all of its own.
You can use that excact same line of reasoning as support *for* giving FW it's own forum.
How the hell are new players gonna find anything about FW atm? No bridging there.
And a new player reading the first few posts in CAOD is sure to not return there for quite some time... No bridging there either
etc.
So agreed - a FW forum is *needed* to bring FW "to the masses".
Get's my thumbs up.
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Pithecanthropus
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
I support changing the descriptions of the categories Kovid suggests but oppose setting up entirely new forums for FW.
I'm all for its own thread... it can't hurt, and it definitely needed. It's not just a roleplaying part of the game. That's a hypocritical statement to make there. FW players are made up of everyone, not just roleplayers. In fact, there are probably more NON-roleplayers in FW.
It deserves its own channel. Perhaps even a recruitment channel for militias.
I'll never play Jade Online.
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
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Posted - 2008.08.11 21:08:00 -
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Yes, FW needs a forum.
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Becq Starforged
Ushra'Khan
The Flame of Freedom Burns On! |
Gaius Terium
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Posted - 2008.08.11 22:36:00 -
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