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Taurar	Posted - 2004.05.18 19:34:00 - [1] we have a new interview with ccp up at the gate. http://www.evegate.net/exclusives/int018.php Malachlite incognito
Orestes	Posted - 2004.05.18 20:14:00 - [2] Stickied! Join the IC!
Elad Baan	Posted - 2004.05.18 20:41:00 - [3] Just to know... who was interviewed ? Unless I'm an idiot (which might very well be true), there's no mention of who actually answered the questions... Cool ideas for the game - New mission types - Group missions - Planets and the market
kieron	Posted - 2004.05.18 20:44:00 - [4] Oveur was the one to supply the answers, with some assistance from Hellmar and other members of the Dev Team. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
Artean	Posted - 2004.05.18 20:59:00 - [5] Hmm.. that was.. hmm hmm.. Well, at least he mentioned Shiva. ........ There is a fine line between gate camping and just standing by a gate, looking like an idiot...
Tokka Konnair	Posted - 2004.05.18 21:19:00 - [6] i haven't been able to access any Eve-Gate page for a while what's going on? __________________________________________
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2004.05.18 21:25:00 - [7] No offense meant, regardless of the alcohol content in my bloodstream atm, but that article SAID NOTHING. All it was, was a bunch of vague statements, none of which explained HOW these new "features" will work, just some silly excuses for why the development team hasn't met the proposed deadline. Pants I say, quite pants. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.05.18 21:52:00 - [8] Edited by: Blacklight on 18/05/2004 21:54:53 Originally by: DigitalCommunist No offense meant, regardless of the alcohol content in my bloodstream atm, but that article SAID NOTHING. All it was, was a bunch of vague statements, none of which explained HOW these new "features" will work, just some silly excuses for why the development team hasn't met the proposed deadline. Pants I say, quite pants. I quite agree that was the single lamest interview of any sort that has slunk out of the doors of CCP's offices in a while. Believe it or not guys & gals at CCP your player base is gagging for real titbits, facts, information, specs, sneak previews, screenies etc... in short some substance. Those vague statements weren't even a tease, just a waste of bandwidth. We are all extremely interested in what Shiva will really mean, so throw a dog a bone eh? Is Shiva still so undeveloped that you can't share some more concrete information with us? I can buy the hampered by your own success line but for goodness sake surely you guys have a better idea of what Shiva really looks, feels and smells like than that flacid interview suggests. Kieron, honestly that interview was crap, not enough detail to tantalise a tastebud let alone satisfy our ravaging hunger.... Edit: to spell Kieron properly Eve Blacklight Style
Carmen Priano	Posted - 2004.05.18 21:59:00 - [9] Edited by: Carmen Priano on 18/05/2004 22:00:27 Gah! Can't you guys stop with the whining for a bit? :/ Oveur (with Hellmar's assistance) was kind enough to confirm a fair number of the items we've seen in the previews at Fragland, including the potential for early release of some content slated for Shiva. Sure, we'd all love a ton more information -- I'm sure every one of us would like to hole up the devs in a room for a few hours and strain their brains. Still, something -is- better than nothing. :p Edit: Thanks Oveur! :)
Gerome Doutrande	Posted - 2004.05.18 21:59:00 - [10] Edited by: Gerome Doutrande on 18/05/2004 22:09:54 i love oveur! edit: interview is boring though.
Garramon	Posted - 2004.05.18 22:19:00 - [11] So, Q3 it is... ------------------------------------------------
Trevedian	Posted - 2004.05.18 22:19:00 - [12] I've never seen so many words that once compiled, convey so little. Where is the content? Where is the beef? Where is Tech 2? Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
Malius	Posted - 2004.05.18 22:21:00 - [13] Given the tone in that interview (the number of mentions of 'success' leads me to believe they almost went under...) it would seem that Shiva is still a few months away.. possibly 6 months away. Just a hunch though...
Katya Detia	Posted - 2004.05.18 22:24:00 - [14] They will lease some early stuff from Shiva, when it finaly does come out.. people will whine that Shiva hasnt got enough stuff.. I'll place money on it --------------------------- CEO: Black Sea Industries
Tsual	Posted - 2004.05.18 22:26:00 - [15] Quote: None of the features are "complete" since they just entered limited open testing. I only consider it complete when it has been deployed on Tranquility. We have a number of features that will be introduced with Shiva, but we are porting some of this forward to upcoming patches. NPC Officers, Commanders, new ship types like destroyers and battlecruisers, new rare ships, aggression system and contraband flagging, Complexes, Alliance system, overhaul of the corporations system, overhaul of the contracts system, smuggling and various other content additions like destroyable structure, ice clouds and comets are on the list to name a few. Quote: We are considering porting some of the systems for earlier release, Officers and Commanders, Aggression system and Complexes along with stepping up some of the TL2 deployments. If and when is pretty much dependant on our upcoming hardware upgrades and if we are happy with the current designs of the system. Not the light at the end of the tunnel for all those whining around here but better then nothing. thumbs up Do your best Devs. -------------------------------------- Tsual - Miner from faith, frigat junky for life. Ritual of the Qua'nadhar.
Baleur	Posted - 2004.05.18 22:46:00 - [16] do your best?? the tone in the entire interview gave me an image in mind of a bored tired angry dev instead of the should-be happy excited dev. very bad God i gotta change my sig..
Burga Galti	Posted - 2004.05.18 22:50:00 - [17] The tone of the interview suggests they might be more than a little annoyed at the constant whining about Shiva. Lay off and give them a break people! (you know who you are) And you guys release it when it's ready. It's your dream and should conform to whatever standards you desire. Those of us who truely love eve can wait for it. Tales from the EVE Cluster
Uuldahan	Posted - 2004.05.18 22:51:00 - [18] Originally by: Baleur do your best?? the tone in the entire interview gave me an image in mind of a bored tired angry dev instead of the should-be happy excited dev. very bad And it's perhaps because he works a lot, so that may be a good sign ?
Nybbas	Posted - 2004.05.18 23:31:00 - [19] The success he was talking about, sounded like with all the extra players, like the breaking the 10K mark etc etc they have had problems updating the system and keeping it running, i dont think its because of the lack OF success...
Skaz	Posted - 2004.05.18 23:49:00 - [20] Quote: 1) given that it is almost May can you give us a definitive answer as to if you can/will keep your promise for a Shiva release? No. Shiva will be ready when it's ready. They still say that about another game that's been forever in development.... I'm really really pessimistic after that interview... Either they're in a heap of trouble and Shiva is....far far away or they are deliberately bringing down our expectations. But seriously I think that they hadn't expected 40,000 subscribers hammering them and being so "difficult" to maintain. Meeting the demands of an existing customer base is always the hardest or most annoying thing in business. (Anyone familiar with this phrase: "I'd wish those damn customers would leave me alone so that I could do some work!") But they'll do sooner or later, Shiva will come, we will celebrate, cry, whine and complain and they'll be on a new underestimated deadline again.....a full cycle. Bleh, don't mind my ramblings, I'm too tired to see my monitor and keyboard clearly, typing by memory so I apologize for some of the typos.... But seriously, he didn't even mention Q3 in the interview.....so go figure, they're not even sure about that. I hate being the pessimist... "No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..."
CrazedMutha	Posted - 2004.05.18 23:57:00 - [21] Edited by: CrazedMutha on 18/05/2004 23:58:38 That's what happens when you give an estimated release date, everyone expects you to stick to it. The phrase "Shiva still has some way to go" makes me think that it will be released about september time, if that. I presume the ugprades and such put Shiva on the back burner for a while. And good ol CCP for seeing "success" as a problem, that made me laugh.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2004.05.19 00:02:00 - [22] Oh FFS, can't some people get a freakin grip? Voicing your concern and distaste of something is not whining, its merely stating your opinion. God forbid I see the day we all agree with CCP and smile when they shaft us up the rear with pointlessness such as this article. They confirmed some things the fragland article said. woot. Have any of you stopped to consider maybe sht like that should have been told to the playerbase long before some craptacular site posted it for everyone and their cat to read? Yeah WTG on dangling a carrot in front of the masses, but the rest of us are paying now, currently, to play this* game. And its nothing like what was mentioned, so maybe some more information or communication is in order? Yes? Did the devs develop comets? Yes. Hell, I've seen them in beta. Did they make planetary rings? Yes. Did they do a lot of other neat stuff? Yes. Have they said anything on HOW its going to be IMPLEMENTED in the current system? Hell no.. And thats why I'm more than annoyed, and I generally favour most changes the CCP crew make. Honestly, they dont have to spill the beans on how POS and other stuff like ice clouds will work, because I'm sure that they are at a point in development where they coded in all this fancy stuff but have yet to make it work in a sensible manner (hence the limited open testing).. so yes, anything they say specifically will probably change and a lot of people will whine that its not the same as was promised.. BUT Is it so hard to give us a damn cookie once in a while? You say a lot of these things will be in, so even if you dont have the flawless implementation in, give us teh freaking screens already. I want to see this with my own eyes before I say to myself "yes its worth the wait", and its not a matter of spoiling the surprise, its a matter of them having proof to back up what is obviously bait for the mindless. I'm not settling for a 3-6 month wait based upon some silly words depicting volcanic activity and aurora borealis on planets and whatnot.. No way in hell. Screens, now, kthnx. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
0seeker0	Posted - 2004.05.19 00:32:00 - [23] Well, im happy they gave an interview. Id really like them to say it will be out next week, but they didnt. It all sounds very cool and all....... Seeker. Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware. Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
Chade Malloy	Posted - 2004.05.19 01:09:00 - [24] ...Limited open testing has just recently begun on Sputnik, our Shiva test server. OMG! they really call it "Sputnik"?! Shiva is dammed...that thing (Sputnik) only barely made it out into the universe, shot a few beeb-beeb-beebs and tumbled back to burn in the atmosphere...i sincerly hope thats not the fate of the test server though only joking, good luck to shiva and the DEVs, give it out when its ready ;) Patience wins.
The Reclaimer	Posted - 2004.05.19 03:03:00 - [25] OMG Q3, OMG!! 3rd quarter is July, August, September. Its practically right around the corner FFS. Considering that the Eve gate broke around 20K years ago, a few months isnt much.
Tadius Rhain	Posted - 2004.05.19 03:19:00 - [26] It amuses me that people get so pushy for facts as soon as Shiva is mentioned. When direct questions aren't answered it can only be taken as a sign that there is much work yet to be done. And this is consistent, because the 'deadline' is loosely defined as a three month window, starting some two months away. If you don't like it, don't read any interviews about Shiva until late August. As for what I've so far read about Shiva, it looks good. I think CCP are doing really well in terms of developing gameplay mechanics. ____________________________________________ Ideas Lab - Forum Search Feature - Sign me!
ScreamingCricket	Posted - 2004.05.19 06:13:00 - [27] Well people seem to still not know what shiva will include and says the interview tells nothing. So in case you didn't catch the link on the eve-online homepage, here is the Shiva E3 preview link http://articles.filefront.com/46 looking forward to it, i just hope its an update you can download, and not an add on pack you have to buy...
Dufas	Posted - 2004.05.19 06:28:00 - [28] That sounds like one ****ed off dev...shiva is suppose to be out in may and it sounds like it barely off the drawning board...the whole interview was a waste of reading "No. Shiva will be ready when it's ready" --if thats the current attitude at ccp then dont give out a date for its release and stop yanking everyone's chains...and the "None of the features are "complete" since they just entered limited open testing" is just too funny...they have no clue how to release this stuff or when so im betting we wont see it till around christmas...maybe we'll get the castor patch by september
Demangel	Posted - 2004.05.19 06:55:00 - [29] Some of the people sticking up for CCP don't seem to realise that some of us have been around since before release, and have grow weary of the "invisible carrot on the stick" style CCP has with releasing things. I would be fine if it was a visible carrot, but the damn thing has a lvel 3 ninja stealth module on it... I could care less about the release date IF CCP would as one person said: "Throw us loyal and paying subscribers a BONE." Don't tell me to read the filefront article or something because while it told me things I wasn't aware of... Asside from some very basic info on dungeons, it didn't really say anything. It would be like me telling you a new Fantasy RPG was coming out and listing the games features like this: Sun Moon clouds Grass Monsters Swords Magic Mountain Dungeon Rock Lag Levels 6 playable races 12 character classes And just leaving it at that. If thats all you need to get excited then good for you... but some of us like to have a little more than a few syllables to rub together. Some of the people complaining here are some of the more true blue fans of EVE. The reason we get upset is because we care about the game, and CCP so much. It's not greed. It's not always impatience. In cases like this it's often because we worry about the state of EVE. We worry if we will be vindicated for sticking with the game in the face of hardships. We WANT CCP to succeed, at least I do... Anyway this interview was no better than a TV interview with a guy who didn't want to be interviewed: Q: Can you tell us when it will be done? A: No comment. Q: Can you tell us about the features? A: Refer to the statement we made the other day. Q: Has the patch been delayed? A: No comment. The only impression I got from the interview was the DEV's trying to put a positive spin on the difficulties they have had keeping up with the influx of new players... And why Shiva is late. To be honest I have never read a more somber interview with a CCP official before... and it was a bit disturbing... To put it another way, if they are really as upset with us "Whiners" as some suggest they are... then they really have no business running such a project as this. Our so called "whines" (which in this case are more like constructive critiscism and a cry for help) on this matter are not over the line. It is something all the other more successful games (be they single player or otherwise), understand already. You release just enough info to get people excited, but don't spoil it either. Sure maybe some of you have the patience of a saint... but thats why that cliche is worded the way it is... because ONLY A SAINT could be so patient, and while some of us are very good people, only a small handful can be saints... I have been playing EVE since retail, and I had to quit EVE to really remember why I loved it. Now that I'm back I am glad to be here, but I still find that I hate how CCP plays games with info like this. And NO, Shiva will be free... It's not a paid expansion. If it isn't free, I suspect we'll see a huge drop in subscriptions. It would be MMORPG suicide to charge for a 10-20 meg patch... It's not going to be that big, and most of it will use existing items with new stats and AI and occasionaly paint jobs. Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit.
Sellars	Posted - 2004.05.19 06:59:00 - [30] TBH I find nothing at all interesting in that interview. Players are interested in when its coming. Keeping them guessing keeps them annoyed, primarily at the devs. After having been told May, what months ago, it seems to me like the devs are afraid to come forward and say "Look, sorry about this, bit of a delay, but it'll definitely be out by June 12th" or something like that. But instead, they don't tell the player sod all, then hold interviews like that. Im sorry, its not good enough.
sutty	Posted - 2004.05.19 07:24:00 - [31] commets been around forever commet1 commet 2 commet 3
Amin	Posted - 2004.05.19 09:47:00 - [32] Tbh, the interview sounded more like an interrogation of a suspect reluctant to give a straight answer. Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator Caldari State Citizen ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tillyn	Posted - 2004.05.19 09:55:00 - [33] Not sure if any of you have seen this link yet, but it gives quite a bit of info http://fragland.net/index.php?page=previews&pid=75 All in all, if what the devs are saying is true and we get everything... eventually, it will make an even better EvE experience.
Jebba IV	Posted - 2004.05.19 10:00:00 - [34]
Psy Corp	Posted - 2004.05.19 10:54:00 - [35] personaly i dont care ** when shiva comes.. i want things to get in on the way to it.. what i dont want is a 4 month window without getting released like between gemini and castor.. and frankly its what i see will happen.. and i hope they know that the little eve server thing on eve-i will show a down spin again if they dont get stuff in.. so please just keep things comming.. im just a tierd over 1 year old player thats bored I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop**..
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2004.05.19 11:03:00 - [36] Interview with questions who every alert forum reader could have answered before. __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
Bad Harlequin	Posted - 2004.05.19 13:01:00 - [37] Originally by: Tadius Rhain It amuses me that people get so pushy for facts as soon as Shiva is mentioned. 0n0g, customers wanting FACTS! the horror You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike.
Lance60266	Posted - 2004.05.19 13:25:00 - [38] I wonder if they could at LEAST Leak the skill tree for some of the new skills? This would at least allow us to begin training some of the skills to level needed to use some of the Pre Req. Skills new stuff coming up. Take for example the Interceptor required Evasive Manuvering 5 and Frigate 5 before you could train for Interceptor. Had I known a few weeks before the release that was the case I would have already trained the Evasive and frigate skill. This would also serve to allow players to test any potential bugs much faster. "Its all fun and games til somebody gets Podded"
Nighthawk	Posted - 2004.05.19 13:31:00 - [39] tbh shiva is all very well and good, but id rather they just label it "done when its done" and actually do it properly instead of rushing it to get it out and it being full of bugs and bad implementations. what i wanna know is, where is tech 2 ?!?!?!? afaik tech2 was supposed to be before shiva, and the only things we have had are a few modules and a single class of the elite frigates. when can we expect covert ops frigates and the other tech2 items??? --- All hail to the mighty space hamster!!! ---
Numskull	Posted - 2004.05.19 20:36:00 - [40] Hmmm, I was really disappointed with this interview. First of all, just to clear things up I'm not a fan boy and i'm not a complainer. I'm just a person who has paid for Eve since the day it launched and seen all of its highs and all of its lows. This is the first time I've posted a 'complaint' on a board, so keep your flames for the serial gripers. Firstly, I'm fed up with people saying "f* this this is sh" because at the end of the day that helps no-one. I also get a bit tired of people unquestioningly following along like a puppy with its tongue hanging out. At the end of the day, a game is like any other service you buy. When it goes well, you congratulate, when it's not working out so well you need to say something. There has been a really long drought of content in eve. Let's be honest here, what we've seen of TL2 didn't exactly swing the galaxy on it's head. We've had about 25 modifications of existing modules, a couple of hardly used deployables, and then... silence. This is the first time I'll honestly say I'm really disappointed by this. Not so much the delay, but more the way it was communicated. CCP is no Sony, but equally we're an incredibly loyal fan base, and we've contributed for over a year to this game. Other games have developed MUCH faster. In the last 6 months for example, SWG has evolved almost beyond recognition and their next 'shiva' style patch will be a full, eve-style space addon. Clearly Sony have a much much bigger team, but Eve is now one of the biggest earning MMOs and they should surely be investing that back into the player base. More importantly, however, because Eve is a much closer community than a big corporate game like SWG, it's even more important that CCP are sensitive to the views of their player base. I'm not keen on finding out that the single biggest development to date, that we've waited for for months, is hugely delayed with a simple 'it'll happen when it happens'. Worth noting as well, this delay has happened not because of a huge technical problem, or because of circumstances well beyond CCP's control, but because they're making more and more money. Remember, CCP, it's the customers who have already stayed for 12+ months who are the most likely to stick around, and I think you could be a little more open and apologetic than a hard nosed 'shut up and wait'. Maybe when CCP release EveIII - the Revenge of the Science Graduates they can be this dismissive when conveying bad news... but not yet...
Tadius Rhain	Posted - 2004.05.19 21:35:00 - [41] Originally by: Bad Harlequin 0n0g, customers wanting FACTS! the horror Oh come on BH, you've been around long enough to know how this thing works. The press release was too early. But theyÆre never early enough. The timing of such announcements rarely has anything to do with preparedness. Public announcement pushes the devs and diverts clientÆs attention from other recent happenings. And just because some random oaf hosts a "new" interview on the same topic doesn't mean there will be any new content. I've read three articles about Shiva now and they were all approximately the same. The devs had already said their piece now let them get on with it. If eve-gate was serious about having some exclusive content in their article they would have waited a couple of weeks after the first announcement. That's why it amuses me. I thought anybody else with their finger on the pulse would have found the same. ____________________________________________ Ideas Lab - Forum Search Feature - Sign me!
Tadius Rhain	Posted - 2004.05.19 22:05:00 - [42] Originally by: Numskull At the end of the day, a game is like any other service you buy. When it goes well, you congratulate, when it's not working out so well you need to say something. There has been a really long drought of content in eve. Let's be honest here, what we've seen of TL2 didn't exactly swing the galaxy on it's head. We've had about 25 modifications of existing modules, a couple of hardly used deployables, and then... silence. I agree. Originally by: Numskull CCP is no Sony, but equally we're an incredibly loyal fan base, and we've contributed for over a year to this game. Other games have developed MUCH faster. In the last 6 months for example, SWG has evolved almost beyond recognition and their next 'shiva' style patch will be a full, eve-style space addon. I won't write anything about other games here, but I will say that Tycho tells it like it is... Oh, and I think that this should redefine peoples ideas about a bad interview. Originally by: Numskull ...but Eve is now one of the biggest earning MMOs and they should surely be investing that back into the player base. Quote from the article in this very topic: "The success is however allowing us to add to our team and we are now about 40 people." Originally by: Numskull Worth noting as well, this delay has happened not because of a huge technical problem, or because of circumstances well beyond CCP's control, but because they're making more and more money. This is the only thing in your post that you got enitrely wrong. Eve grew, as did the feature set, as did the demand on the servers. Money hasn't inherently created problems - in fact it has allowed their team to grow, which will expedite the development cycle. Is it possible you haven't read the dev blogs regarding the hardware upgrades? If you haven't, please read "A tale of three-phased hardware upgrade" at a minimum. ____________________________________________ Ideas Lab - Forum Search Feature - Sign me!
LiverpoolFC	Posted - 2004.05.19 23:59:00 - [43] What a waste of a sticky. There are many loyal players on EVE, 10,000's of us but I suspect that many will be a little anoyed with this interview. It looks like Shiva will be late, very late. Lets face it if its not released before the middle of July its going to be mid/late September before we get it. I belive that Iceland all but closes in August for the summer holidays. It also looks like Shiva will be a much smaller patch than was promised. I feel let down CCP, more broken promises and more bull****. Your fast losing credability within the Eve community. I guess it will be some time before we get 10,000 players on a Sunday. Watch as the numbers start falling off as it did least year when no new content was added. For those that are happy to accept the delay then please do so in such as way that you show repespect for other peoples differing opinion. Hopefully we all agree that that game is great but new content is essential for the game to develope further. I suppose the good news is that I will be able to watch the European Football Championships in June unhindered by Eve and shiva. For those that like the Olympics I guess August will be the same.
Skaz	Posted - 2004.05.20 09:32:00 - [44] Edited by: Skaz on 20/05/2004 20:33:00 Actually Iceland closes down or has its holiday season in June through July, and the first weekend in August is THE party/get drunk/festival weekend affectionally called "Versl¾" (short for Verslunarmannahelgin). So I think that June through July will be marked with little communications from CCP, Shiva will be delayed over to late August or September, I say this not because of the holiday season being a main factor but more like because of the current mood of the devs (anyone noticed that they haven't talked about the CSM's lately?) I'm basing this opinion on the fact that we still have a Castor patch on the way, prob this month... And they are still talking about HOW to implement some things in Shiva?!?!? Doesn't seem that they're ready yet to release anything for testing just yet... I would love for a dev to clear all this up by replying but, I guess we won't know anything until the CSM's start again ( more like IF they start again) I mean lets face it the CSM's could be useless but at least we could interact and probe the devs regularly, even if they didn't give us a straight answer. Someone please prove me wrong on this rather pessimistic outlook for Shiva! EDIT: Ok it's official I'm THE thread killer.....12 hours and no reply....sheesh "No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..."
Oveur	Posted - 2004.05.21 13:06:00 - [45] Well, talk about bad timing This interview was done by me before E3 and Filefront. The Filefront article is based on the press material made for E3. Had it been done post E3 I could have said more and gone into more detail. Sure, the interview vas the pretty much the definition of 'vague' - but thats the situation we were working with at that time. The final featureset we were going to publish was not yet decided (we had to re-evaluate because of the delay) and playtesting just recently begun on the features that are already in. We also hadn't decided on a timeframe for Shiva (based on that final E3 featureset) and when we would be able to deploy it. That made the first question rather hard to answer, and it was the only answer I had at that time, since we hadn't even set a timeframe for the delay. We had some tough decisions to do. Should we aim for a release with a severely limited featureset or delay and keep the featureset pretty much as it was originally? We did the latter. I'm very sorry about this interview, both EVE Gate and you the players deserved a better one, but at that time we couldn't go into detail. To make it up for you, I'm going to gather some screenshots and maybe a short video. p.s. Numskull, CCP is 40 employees with close to 45 thousand customers. SWG is about 10 times bigger than we are _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
Atandros	Posted - 2004.05.21 15:26:00 - [46] Originally by: Oveur Well, talk about bad timing This interview was done by me before E3 and Filefront. The Filefront article is based on the press material made for E3. Had it been done post E3 I could have said more and gone into more detail. Sure, the interview vas the pretty much the definition of 'vague' - but thats the situation we were working with at that time. The final featureset we were going to publish was not yet decided (we had to re-evaluate because of the delay) and playtesting just recently begun on the features that are already in. We also hadn't decided on a timeframe for Shiva (based on that final E3 featureset) and when we would be able to deploy it. That made the first question rather hard to answer, and it was the only answer I had at that time, since we hadn't even set a timeframe for the delay. We had some tough decisions to do. Should we aim for a release with a severely limited featureset or delay and keep the featureset pretty much as it was originally? We did the latter. I'm very sorry about this interview, both EVE Gate and you the players deserved a better one, but at that time we couldn't go into detail. To make it up for you, I'm going to gather some screenshots and maybe a short video. p.s. Numskull, CCP is 40 employees with close to 45 thousand customers. SWG is about 10 times bigger than we are Thank you for the clarification - much appreciated (and the promised visual material even more so).
Lance60266	Posted - 2004.05.21 15:52:00 - [47] Oveur, I have NEVER Paid to play a game this long, I still look forward to logging on and hopefully will continue to do so in the future, The fact that People are Hungry for more information is actually a testimate to the scope of this game. All we ask is that you leak as much information as you can so that we can better prepare for the updates in advance. "Its all fun and games til somebody gets Podded"
Rawne Karrde	Posted - 2004.05.22 00:41:00 - [48] In my personal opinion, after playing this game for over a year now, and having been let down by the broken promises of CCP, I'm getting to the edge of my rope. I'll wait till q3, but if shiva doesn't come out with atleast what they've already promised, I won't be renewing the subrscriptions to my accounts. Frankly Soon(tm) is really starting to **** me off.
FreeTofi	Posted - 2004.05.22 11:49:00 - [49] ú400,000 ccp bring in every month (roughly). Enough said i think :(
Tadius Rhain	Posted - 2004.05.23 00:00:00 - [50] Originally by: FreeTofi ú400,000 ccp bring in every month (roughly). Enough said i think :( And I suppose you think that's spent on wages.. oh and maybe a water fountain, eh? Ever had a maintenance contract with IBM? ____________________________________________ Ideas Lab - Forum Search Feature - Sign me!
FreeTofi	Posted - 2004.05.23 11:46:00 - [51] The fountain is nice, but the water is said to be coming soonÖ btw congrats on your maintanence contract with IBM
TOXIC WASTE	Posted - 2004.05.23 21:40:00 - [52] Plz fix the lab slot problem, make each lab station have an unlimited amount and the price is set by how many are rented out in each station per 5 days. Also put the price up from 1000 isk.
Tristan	Posted - 2004.05.25 07:31:00 - [53] i wish they had not used the abreviation "POS" it means something else to most people, and makes for amusing reading. For example: "what else will we be seeing in shiva apart from the POS? can you please list the new and updated features that are currently completed for it?" heh
Taurar	Posted - 2004.05.25 15:24:00 - [54] i probably should've included a note with the interview it was created and sent of on Saturday, April 24, 2004 4:31 PM now that was well before any other information on shiva came about and this would have been more centered on new material but i didnt get the interview back till 1 day before it was posted which was nearly a month later well after the fragland information. Malachlite incognito

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