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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2012.05.29 08:38:00 -
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Damnation with a Legion for Boosts.
852k EHP with Slaves, and if someone wants to shoot 4 freighters worth of EHP, they'll shoot 4 freighters instead of trying to get ~100 people in the same place shooting the same target.
[Damnation, HS Transport]
Damage Control II
Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
10MN MicroWarpdrive II
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
Improved Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2012.05.30 07:53:00 -
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Goran Konjich wrote:what is instant undock bookmark ?
what is pseudo-akf ?
what is instawarp ?
why hit MWD then cloak on approach ?
thx!
Google is your Friend.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2012.05.30 08:45:00 -
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Goran Konjich wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Google is your Friend. thx for saving my time you freak with white shirt
You are so very welcome. I do try to help.
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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2012.05.30 11:23:00 -
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Nakkano wrote:Lol at anyone flying in an industrial or small ship. Get serious for real. I would never carry around anything valuable in a paper tank.
Use a T3. You cannot fck with the EHP of a legion or proteus. We are talking 250-350K Ehp without slaves.
And it can cloak.
If you can't afford that, use a a shield buffer plus hull tanked battleship.
Oh, that sounds stupid? Try it in EFT. It's at least 200K ehp. This Rokh below checks out at 225k ehp.
Armor's better cause you'll forget to turn on the active hardeners the one gate you get a gank attempt. Also, you need a mid for your MWD.
230k EHP plain, 560k with a legion, Slaves, and Navy Enams.
[Abaddon, HS Hauling]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
100MN MicroWarpdrive II
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
Improved Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
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SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2012.05.31 08:12:00 -
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Aluka 7th wrote:
Ships/fittings
Cov. op. frig (worst choice because of low HP), Cloakable transport ship, T3 with Cov. op subsys.
I use blockade runner ship (Prorator) with damage control and reinforced bulkheads when undocking Jita 4-4 or pass through smartbomb heavy gate as it has 22k EHP tank which can tank ~70 large smart bomb hits (more than enough :)
Fly safe o/
Force Recons (especially the Falcon) work really well for this. Fill the mids with shield buffer an the lows with Istabs and you'll warp like a covops and you'll have a decent tank.
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SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2012.06.10 00:42:00 -
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Andy DelGardo wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Again; Cov-ops Frigate like the Cheetah.
Cloaking ability, fast and small.
Why not? Smartbombs and not really more agile than a cloaky hauler, the main advantage is that u need a even more crazy remote boost setup to insta lock, but it is still possible. Also we talk about extreme expansive hauling here, so at least u should be able to use a cloaky T3 over a Frigate, while also having a pretty low sig, if not use a transport service.
Insta-Lock is a lie. You cannot lock something before it cloaks unless they misclick or something.
The server operates in 1s ticks.
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SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2012.06.10 00:57:00 -
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Jacob Stiller wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Andy DelGardo wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Again; Cov-ops Frigate like the Cheetah.
Cloaking ability, fast and small.
Why not? Smartbombs and not really more agile than a cloaky hauler, the main advantage is that u need a even more crazy remote boost setup to insta lock, but it is still possible. Also we talk about extreme expansive hauling here, so at least u should be able to use a cloaky T3 over a Frigate, while also having a pretty low sig, if not use a transport service. Insta-Lock is a lie. You cannot lock something before it cloaks unless they misclick or something. The server operates in 1s ticks. If the server operates in 1s ticks, is the difference between a 3.6s align time and a 3.8s align time meaningless?
Not sure. I think so, but most of my testing has revolved around the sub 1s - 1s area. And there is no difference between .2s and 1s as far as lock time is concerned. I'm still not sure where it rounds in the 1s - 2s range, though I suspect it's a round up after 1s.
Basically, you can't lock a cloaky before the initial cloak unless they misclick (or forget to cloak or whatever).
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SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2012.06.10 02:41:00 -
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Jacob Stiller wrote:Swapping a LSE for a MWD puts another wrinkle into the Rapier vs Falcon comparison by decreasing the Rapier's EHP significantly more than the Falcon: 71889 vs 74884. I.e. the Falcon manages to erode the Rapier's sig/survivability advantage. I'm not really sure it makes sense to go for a MWD on a high sec, cov ops cloak hauler though.
From what I understand, the whole point of the mwd cloak trick is to make a non cov ops cloak ship reach warp speed while still cloaked. I.e. it insta warps once the cloak drops. Whereas a cov ops cloak requires no special maneuver to warp while cloaked. Furthermore, EFT claims that the mwd will increase align time.
Therefore, it seems like in the scenario of using a cov ops ship to haul in high sec, a mwd would be of no help at best and a detriment at worst. Successfully surviving a high sec gank amounts to lasting until Concord kills the gankers. However, MWDs and/or afterburners would be useful when taking such a hauler into low sec as you actually have to try to escape if gankers manage to catch you.
MWDs are necessary in Null to get you out of bubble camps better.
In Low, you will not be caught unless you're unlucky enough to land withing 2km of something.
In High, same as low.
You are correct about the MWD-Cloak trick, but if you're ganked in a cloaky hauler on a gate in HS, you're terrible (or spectacularly unlucky with the 2km landing). The problem is during the delay before docking, when you can be alphaed and can't be cloaked. Thus EHP does still matter for HS cloaky hauling.
Recons are moderately good on the EHP for that (enough to give pause), but can be ganked easily enough. BRs and CovOps do get randomly popped by someone bored in a Nado or a Thrasher (respectively).
I still like the Damnation for Troll "Can't Touch This" value, and the Orca (w/Catalysts&gank fittings in regular cargo) for stealth.
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