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Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.07.03 19:35:00 - [31] Edited by: Razin on 03/07/2008 19:36:41 Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Razin Links to .pdf's don't work? I keep getting "WTF HAX an error has occured. This could be due to a heavy number of visitors. Please try a choice from the menu." I think it's because of the way I named the files. It works fine on my Firefox Browser. I can simplify the naming, and that should make it compatible. Are you using Internet Explorer or FireFox? I'm using FireFox 2. Thanks! Specifically, I am looking for the Russian version. Edit - Now it works. Thank you very much! ...
Hugh Ruka Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:11:00 - [32] Edited by: Hugh Ruka on 04/07/2008 11:14:31 The Czech link works. But looking at the example, the maps are terrible ... not worth the paper they are printed on ... --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed !
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:15:00 - [33] Originally by: Hugh Ruka The Czech link works. But looking at the example, the maps are quite poor and unreadable ... I mean how are you going to find out the number of belts from the map ? It's impossible ... You mean the exact number of belts? That's not the purpose, as that information is readily available everywhere. The purpose of the map with belts is to enable identifying systems with good combinations of belts/moons/sec status/routes/location. If there are two very similar systems that are a good combo of sec/belts/moons/routes, then it's quick to show-info on those two systems to determine which of the two is exactly best down to 1 belt accuracy. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Goodwill George	Posted - 2008.07.04 11:49:00 - [34] The Swedish translation is horrible. Sorry!
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.04 12:05:00 - [35] Edited by: Zinras on 04/07/2008 15:01:11 Edited by: Zinras on 04/07/2008 12:05:14 Edited by: Zinras on 04/07/2008 12:04:42 Failed attempt to bump a sticky because I want to know the status of the Danish translations. Will someone fix it or are we doomed to see the silly errors of Babelfish proportions? Originally by: BamseTheDane "Nullsec"(Nul-sikkerhed) and "no-sec"(Ingen sikkerhed) are both viable terms, within reference to 0.0 space =) Even if the map is in Danish, I think they should keep the English terms, by that simple statement: They both sound utter ridiciulus in Danish :P We aren't that good at shortening terms and making simple stuff in our language compared to English.. It just sounds.. WRONG! I agree 100% with this. Danish is good at many things but shortening terms, and especially foreign ones, isn't one of them. Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal CCP's best friend
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.07.04 13:05:00 - [36] I'm sure Serenity Steele will accept all translations readily ... -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve, USERPROFILE
Hugh Ruka Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2008.07.04 13:05:00 - [37] Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Hugh Ruka The Czech link works. But looking at the example, the maps are quite poor and unreadable ... I mean how are you going to find out the number of belts from the map ? It's impossible ... You mean the exact number of belts? That's not the purpose, as that information is readily available everywhere. The purpose of the map with belts is to enable identifying systems with good combinations of belts/moons/sec status/routes/location. If there are two very similar systems that are a good combo of sec/belts/moons/routes, then it's quick to show-info on those two systems to determine which of the two is exactly best down to 1 belt accuracy. Why would I then use your maps for anything? I mean the ingame map can server better than your does with route planning etc. on top ... The Ombey 2D maps are superior in every aspect ... --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed !
Hann3ybal Koshaku	Posted - 2008.07.04 13:13:00 - [38] I could do a Welsh version if there's any interest in it...
Faekurias Black Legion Command Red Dawn Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.04 14:13:00 - [39] IS there a "buy and download" option available that I can't see? Shipping takes sooooo looong :( -----------------------------------
Rakivic Galactic Express	Posted - 2008.07.04 14:33:00 - [40] I would think ccp would be nice enugh to make the a free download service/aplaction something like thay did with eve tv and eve voice......but than again look who we are talking about ----------------------------------------------- [Image Removed] CCP did not like my signature so I had to replace it with this one

flashfreaking LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.07.04 14:46:00 - [41] This isn't made by CCP, only by Serenity Steele, by himself, he spend a lot of time doing this, so tbh, quiet normal that he asks some money for it, I mean, you get a nice book (awesome actually) filled with maps of your favourite or less favourite regions :D Disallowed sig graphic. Send an e-mail to [email protected] when it meets the forum signature guidelines. ~Saint
torswin Society Of The Abattoir	Posted - 2008.07.04 17:23:00 - [42] Awww, the Norwegian translation had some rather major grammatical errors. Could be worse though :) Hint to the translator: Sjs opp for orddeling. Asteroidebelte != Asteroide belte --- Unless explicitly stated, this post does not represent my alliance, corporation, my own, or any other living organism's view.
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.07.04 18:59:00 - [43] Originally by: Hugh Ruka Why would I then use your maps for anything? I mean the ingame map can server better than your does with route planning etc. on top ... The Ombey 2D maps are superior in every aspect ... Without re-hashing another post, I'd be quiet happy to challenge your "The Ombey 2D maps are superior in every aspect" statement. For starters Let's take the unambiguous aspects where ESM is superior: - Top/Bottom/Left/Right orientation of the 2D translation matching the in-game map. - Key systems in neighbouring regions included on region map - Ability to identify distribution of moons/belts at a glance without reading detail on every system. - Display of COSMOS systems and beacons - Visually similar to the style of EVE Map - Layed out to fit on single A4 page Feek free to Debate. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Hugh Ruka Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2008.07.05 14:42:00 - [44] Edited by: Hugh Ruka on 05/07/2008 14:43:16 Originally by: Serenity Steele Originally by: Hugh Ruka Why would I then use your maps for anything? I mean the ingame map can server better than your does with route planning etc. on top ... The Ombey 2D maps are superior in every aspect ... Without re-hashing another post, I'd be quiet happy to challenge your "The Ombey 2D maps are superior in every aspect" statement. For starters Let's take the unambiguous aspects where ESM is superior: - Top/Bottom/Left/Right orientation of the 2D translation matching the in-game map. - Key systems in neighbouring regions included on region map - Ability to identify distribution of moons/belts at a glance without reading detail on every system. - Display of COSMOS systems and beacons - Visually similar to the style of EVE Map - Layed out to fit on single A4 page Feek free to Debate. - in-game map orientation is irrelevant, the ingame map can be rotated any way you please - key systems chosen by you (market hubs etc), my own key systems may be different so not relevant - moons are only relevant where you can set up a POS, for navigation they are irrelevant and can be gathered easily from ingame - complex / cosmos identification also in Omey maps - visual similarity ? well the visual of the ingame map is the one thing why other maps are needed :-) and I prefer white background so I can write there my own notes ... - layout irrelevant, I do scale to A4 when printing and I have no problem reading the maps Omey advantage: - free of charge - I can print them as I please ... f.e. a wall poster of the my home region with enough space for notes anyway I should correct my previous statement: The Ombey 2D maps are superior in every aspect for my needs. --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed !
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.07.05 15:56:00 - [45] Originally by: Hugh Ruka ... anyway I should correct my previous statement: The Ombey 2D maps are superior in every aspect for my needs. Thanks, that I can understand. Different players have different needs. BTW: Tip: If you're hiding/running without bookmarks then a system with a lot of moons (and hence planets) is easier to hide in. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Soureal Krupp-Stahl Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.06 11:48:00 - [46] Hmm, i bought the Strategic Maps some weeks ago. Now i realised that the Site 41/42 are missing in my edition! Its Kor-Azor and Lonetrek. Is this a known problem ? How can i get this site or an complete edition... greetings from germany, Soureal
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:02:00 - [47] Originally by: Soureal Hmm, i bought the Strategic Maps some weeks ago. Now i realised that the Site 41/42 are missing in my edition! Its Kor-Azor and Lonetrek. Is this a known problem ? How can i get this site or an complete edition... greetings from germany, Soureal That is very strange. you should email the publisher: Quote: For all customer service enquiries, please email [email protected] ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Soureal Krupp-Stahl Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.06 12:34:00 - [48] Allready done this. But thanks... Yes, very strange thing. Soureal.
Hugh Ruka Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2008.07.07 09:11:00 - [49] Originally by: Serenity Steele BTW: Tip: If you're hiding/running without bookmarks then a system with a lot of moons (and hence planets) is easier to hide in. warp (to planet or other POSless body), drop bm in the middle, warp to bm, warp to another body, drop bm in the middle, warp to bm, log off ... moons are clustered in close proximity (1AU or so) around a planet so number of moons is irrelevant ... and I would neve try to hide at a moon without prior scouting because it can have a nasty POS anchored ... well unless I have a cloak fitted. oh you did not address my suggestion on notes on the printed map itself and custom sized prints :-)) --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed !
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.07 09:44:00 - [50] Originally by: Hugh Ruka Originally by: Serenity Steele BTW: Tip: If you're hiding/running without bookmarks then a system with a lot of moons (and hence planets) is easier to hide in. warp (to planet or other POSless body), drop bm in the middle, warp to bm, warp to another body, drop bm in the middle, warp to bm, log off ... moons are clustered in close proximity (1AU or so) around a planet so number of moons is irrelevant ... and I would neve try to hide at a moon without prior scouting because it can have a nasty POS anchored ... well unless I have a cloak fitted. oh you did not address my suggestion on notes on the printed map itself and custom sized prints :-)) Planets can often have small armies of players at them, either waiting to go somewhere or looking for victims.. Also, a proper map wouldn't need notes, as it should contain all the info you'd want from the beginning That being said, I don't really use maps for the reason I've mentioned. None of the free ones contain all the stuff I need and atm, I don't feel like paying a bunch of money I don't have for the printed ones Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal CCP's best friend

Hugh Ruka Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:47:00 - [51] Edited by: Hugh Ruka on 07/07/2008 12:48:36 Originally by: Zinras Originally by: Hugh Ruka Originally by: Serenity Steele BTW: Tip: If you're hiding/running without bookmarks then a system with a lot of moons (and hence planets) is easier to hide in. warp (to planet or other POSless body), drop bm in the middle, warp to bm, warp to another body, drop bm in the middle, warp to bm, log off ... moons are clustered in close proximity (1AU or so) around a planet so number of moons is irrelevant ... and I would neve try to hide at a moon without prior scouting because it can have a nasty POS anchored ... well unless I have a cloak fitted. oh you did not address my suggestion on notes on the printed map itself and custom sized prints :-)) Planets can often have small armies of players at them, either waiting to go somewhere or looking for victims.. Also, a proper map wouldn't need notes, as it should contain all the info you'd want from the beginning That being said, I don't really use maps for the reason I've mentioned. None of the free ones contain all the stuff I need and atm, I don't feel like paying a bunch of money I don't have for the printed ones Anything can have armies around ... just no POSes that complicate matters further around planets or belts. I generaly make a large enough print of Omey's map for the region I am interested in and make hand notes where needed ... serves my needs very well ... I just can't see the reason to buy a book of maps. If it came on CD so I can print custom size and make notes in it, that might be another story. But why pay for something you can have for free ? I give full credit to Ombey and his team for the maps, they are great for what they are. --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed !
Cassy Dark Gallente Lunar Dawn	Posted - 2008.07.07 20:46:00 - [52] Originally by: Goodwill George The Swedish translation is horrible. Sorry! What? You dont like "the legendary map"? But sadly I agree... Makes me wonder if the translator has actually seen a map before...
Cindy Swallows	Posted - 2008.07.09 14:00:00 - [53] Originally by: Hugh Ruka ... No one is forcing you to buy it. If you don't like it at least stop pi$$ing on this thread with your useless remarks.
Steiner Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.07.13 08:33:00 - [54] Edited by: Steiner on 13/07/2008 08:38:52 The Icelandic translation is good but some of it needs to be revised. Glµsih=par? srsy wtf? I can't even see where you got that word from as the original (Constellation) one means "Stj÷rnumerki" in Icelandic which translates Zodiacs in English. There are few words that can replace that like "S²sla" "Sveit"(Maybe not a good one) or "Umdµmi" but that "Glµsih=par" gotta go. Also "Stj÷rnubelti" (the supposed Asteroid belt) is referring to a belt of stars?! it should be "Smßstirnisbelti". If you are looking for a translator for the Icelandic map I'm sure you can find a Dev or one of us willing to do some little translation on it and or making sure it sounds correct for (us) Icelanders. edit: Just saw that translation thing on the site, going to look it over. ---
Alpha Prime Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.13 13:34:00 - [55] Thank god for a worldwide language which everyone with access to a decent school can lea... ohh wait, nevermind. WTS: Computer. WTB: Lessons in basic english There is no price on true lojalty
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.07.14 22:10:00 - [56] Thanks for the suggestions for corrections. As you can see from each of the downloadable maps, they're all translated by players. If you feel one of the translations needs a lot of corrections and are the person to make them, please eve-mail me and I'll send you the original translation file to adjust. New ones I've received to convert to Legends are in the original post. Thanks, /Serenity. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2008.08.10 23:25:00 - [57] Thanks to all the people who sent translations while I've been away on holidays. Please email/check first .. you may be doing an existing translation, and it's better to update/improve the ones already there. ≡v≡ Strategic Maps in Eve-Online Store - Includes Black Rise & Empyrean Age


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