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Grath Telkin
Amarr
Evolving Paradigms
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Posted - 2008.07.03 18:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist
Well it kinda is a big deal in a way since if you split up the militia, you're effectively crippling your strategies.
see, while all the arm chair jockey's are up here passing verdict on the "leaders" of the amarr militia (laughable, there are none thanks), the ACTUAL FC's have already taken steps to adjust.
See, EVE voice works like crap on some peoples CPU, Vent is not viable for some, and some hate TS, so we've begun Simulcasting to all of them whenever possible.
At least I have.
Someone said here that were "forcing" a game play style down your throat by insisting on 3rd party voice comms, but thats ok for you to do with EVE V. Great, it works perfect for you, but for others, thats not the case.
As soon as we started the simulcasting, we did in fact get some new faces in the nightly fleets.
Although the loyalist's have still been somewhat aloof, insisting only on Vent, I've even gotten a few of those guys to come on ops.
SO for all the 'nobodies' that came here to smash us for 'forcing' things on you...isn't that what your doing, forcing eve voice on people?
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Slanty McGarglefist
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.07.03 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 03/07/2008 18:53:37
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist
Well it kinda is a big deal in a way since if you split up the militia, you're effectively crippling your strategies.
see, while all the arm chair jockey's are up here passing verdict on the "leaders" of the amarr militia (laughable, there are none thanks), the ACTUAL FC's have already taken steps to adjust.
See, EVE voice works like crap on some peoples CPU, Vent is not viable for some, and some hate TS, so we've begun Simulcasting to all of them whenever possible.
At least I have.
Someone said here that were "forcing" a game play style down your throat by insisting on 3rd party voice comms, but thats ok for you to do with EVE V. Great, it works perfect for you, but for others, thats not the case.
As soon as we started the simulcasting, we did in fact get some new faces in the nightly fleets.
Although the loyalist's have still been somewhat aloof, insisting only on Vent, I've even gotten a few of those guys to come on ops.
SO for all the 'nobodies' that came here to smash us for 'forcing' things on you...isn't that what your doing, forcing eve voice on people?
Indeed, it is a double-edged sword, but due to the latest patch, EVE voice is a lot more stable than previous incarnations. Nobody ever said, me included, that using multiple voice-comm progs are causing the downfall of the Amarrian miltia, it's just one of the reasons.
EV is just easier to use, it's in the game, don't have to minimize and you can see who's talking. Regrettably, some people are still having issues with it, but i hope the latest patch has alleviated some of these concerns. I also hope people aren't shooting from the hip due to previous poor encounters with it.
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Ron Bacardi
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.03 19:01:00 -
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My Eve Voice has been broken since the EA patch. Don't know why, don't know what is causing it and I have used it before. I have petitioned, followed up, and bug reported to no avail, besides getting a reply of "We are aware of the problem and we're working on it". I have tried all recomended firewall, port and router settings, including talking with my ISP. I have included logserver and diagnostic reports with my petitions. I have deleted every possible eve setting, cache and reinstalled the client numerous times. (If i have to do my overview settings again I'm going to kill a small animal).
Vent and TS work. Always. I'll never join another corp that doesn't use either Vent or TS.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr
Evolving Paradigms
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist
EV is just easier to use, it's in the game, don't have to minimize and you can see who's talking. Regrettably, some people are still having issues with it, but i hope the latest patch has alleviated some of these concerns. I also hope people aren't shooting from the hip due to previous poor encounters with it.
everything you said here is true, for some users. I know that one of our FC's cpu crashes EVERYTIME he tries to join audio.
So no, they are not shooting from the hip.
But, like I said, I am attempting to cross multiple platforms by simply broadcasting across as many channels as I can, and it has in fact picked up our participation, something we sorely needed.
Our nightly (us tz) ops have had higher success rates, as we've changed up tactics a bit, and the bleeding off of Amarr systems has at least been stifled at this point, though taking them back still remains a task.
Again, I'm seeing a lot of angry Caldari pilots who operated under the few FC's who were working in the FIRST WEEK of FW. Things change in EVE with time, and the continual bashing of the entire faction over the actions of a few people who really don't FC much anymore is just silly.
Perhaps if you came down and flew with us again, you would see some changes, AND learn how to kill nanno boats at the same time.
Ask "piak" and his 11km/s Vaga (Gist mwd and snakes) that he USED TO FLY, but was taken down by t1 cruisers.
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Ulfgar Rumnarn
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Posted - 2008.07.03 20:55:00 -
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Excuses... no one else is having this many problems as the amarr are having with using EV.
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Trind2222
Amarr
Soliders Of Eve
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.03 21:02:00 -
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I can see the amarr milita fc point of view. If I was fc I will make my own team and give them different jobs
I quite demanding I want action I will make my own book marks cheer whit the others then delete them next day
then make new ect.
But I lack leadership ability so it won't happen I am sure there are some good amarr fc out there some where in eve.
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Karl Luckner
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Posted - 2008.07.03 23:01:00 -
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Well, I think it's much easier. Amarr got the lowest playerbase of all races. Hence they got the smallest militia.
Most probably, many people don't like playing religious fanatics. Their ships are fine, but I wouldn't mind if the Minmatar kill all of them.
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2008.07.03 23:04:00 -
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The point is not that nobody should play a leadership role, it's that the Amarr are full of people constantly declaring themselves The Leader and calling their op The Official Fleet and telling everybody else The Rules and The Official Chat Channel and The TS Server they have to use. It's a load of BS. Maybe for the Caldari who have thousands of people online at once, these little entrepreneurs don't hurt anything.
But when you split 25 Amarr militia off into a private clique, that may be half of the Amarrians playing FW at the moment. It's no wonder the Minmatars are doing so well.
Here are the steps:
1. Form fleets.
2. Seek victories.
3. Earn respect.
4. Become recognized as a leader.
The Amarr militia is full of people trying to do #4 before #1 and #2, and ignoring #3.
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Faekurias
Black Legion Command
Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.03 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
The point is not that nobody should play a leadership role, it's that the Amarr are full of people constantly declaring themselves The Leader and calling their op The Official Fleet and telling everybody else The Rules and The Official Chat Channel and The TS Server they have to use. It's a load of BS. Maybe for the Caldari who have thousands of people online at once, these little entrepreneurs don't hurt anything.
But when you split 25 Amarr militia off into a private clique, that may be half of the Amarrians playing FW at the moment. It's no wonder the Minmatars are doing so well.
Here are the steps:
1. Form fleets.
2. Seek victories.
3. Earn respect.
4. Become recognized as a leader.
The Amarr militia is full of people trying to do #4 before #1 and #2, and ignoring #3.
I r amarr militia, bow me. Great worriro
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.07.03 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: WiseJoeyD
Whether or not im a troll doesn't matter, the point is amarr have turned into the underdogs, our numbers cannot match the minmatar blobs that are constantly on patrol.
we have the highest VP per pilot than any other faction though (which means jack when the real objective is system sovereignty).
NO IT DOES - WE DEMAND TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE A TROLL
SKUNK
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Doctor Mabuse
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Posted - 2008.07.03 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hudsonn
Someone needs to step and lead gangs, people who know hat they're doing. If everyone was running around doing what they wanted, the amarr milita would be a lot worse than it is now.
? but this is exactly how the Minmater militia is currently running...
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Nessa Aldeen
Caldari
First Among Equals
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Posted - 2008.07.04 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
The point is not that nobody should play a leadership role, it's that the Amarr are full of people constantly declaring themselves The Leader and calling their op The Official Fleet and telling everybody else The Rules and The Official Chat Channel and The TS Server they have to use. It's a load of BS. Maybe for the Caldari who have thousands of people online at once, these little entrepreneurs don't hurt anything.
But when you split 25 Amarr militia off into a private clique, that may be half of the Amarrians playing FW at the moment. It's no wonder the Minmatars are doing so well.
Here are the steps:
1. Form fleets.
2. Seek victories.
3. Earn respect.
4. Become recognized as a leader.
The Amarr militia is full of people trying to do #4 before #1 and #2, and ignoring #3.
This person is absolutely correct. I was in Amarr Militia for 2 weeks. Some idiots tried blocking a gang that wasn't APPROVED by some noob who declared he was leader, so ended up in us being accused as spies. The Holier than Thou approach "...i dont know you.. everyone in militia please ignore the X..." was very dumb.And these were ppl who wanted to take the lead mind u.
Also Amarr Militia only care about the capture points mostly.. meaning they were mostly in crap ships and issuing punishers. And they continue to say they are winning (even though they have lost 8 systems already-only 20 left) and they are doing FW the right way by flying crap. I think AM are seriously delusional people who think they can win the systems by merely capping (badly I might add otherwise they would have recaptured).
They also start yelling abt how not to post intel etc. in militia channel. So we ended up in some 3 extra channels that was said to be the secure but in the end got flooded by a ton of minmatar pilots. LOLZ. Which makes the point of having the channels that they claim to be secure absolutely MOOT. So they barred the channels and forced ppl of it. Then started yelling again abt how not to post and how you need to REQUEST an invite to the channel.
But let me ask you all, are ANY channels secure in FW? The main corp is an NPC corp doh.. buy a clue.
Finally, the TS/VENT issue was another ******ed issue. Screaming and yelling about how there are spies in channel, and how eve voice sucks (so far in other gangs i.e. caldari - more than 60 in it - no one complained abt it) and basically saying if ur not in TS u wont get invites to the gang .. that was the last straw.
There are some good corps in Amarr Militia but they are staying completely off the Miltia .. just go in and do their job.
So to the self proclaimed leaders in Amarr militia i hope you get ganked over and over again .
p.s. the channel finally ended up in a *****ing contest that was very entertaining to read like a bad Mexican soap opera.,,every day until the day my corp quit .. Thank god.
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Doc Extropy
Gallente
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.07.04 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: WiseJoeyD
Whether or not im a troll doesn't matter, the point is amarr have turned into the underdogs, our numbers cannot match the minmatar blobs that are constantly on patrol.
we have the highest VP per pilot than any other faction though (which means jack when the real objective is system sovereignty).
Yeah, because who wants to be a slaver and religious nut? :D
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Horizon Taker
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.07.04 11:35:00 -
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Nessa, trolling you would be too easy so I refrained. Thank you for quitting Amarr Militia.
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Karina Harington
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.07.04 13:12:00 -
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Heh, I never realised my militia was so full of cry-babies. Simple fact: EVE Voice doesn't work for everyone and is problematic for a surprisingly large number of people. Therefore, we use something that works for pretty much everybody and is remarkably stable.
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Tyrantus
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.04 13:37:00 -
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Heh. Well every new expansion seems to spark some never before 'discussed' issue and Eymp Age looks to have brought us 'The Great Voice-Coms Controversy'. I seem to dimly remember that just before the expansion hit wasn't the forum consensus generally of the opinion that Eve voice sucked donkey balls and why would you ever need to use anything but TS/Vent?
Originally by: Tzujeih
Quick, somebody other than myself, make my decisions for me!
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.07.04 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Karina Harington
Heh, I never realised my militia was so full of cry-babies. Simple fact: EVE Voice doesn't work for everyone and is problematic for a surprisingly large number of people. Therefore, we use something that works for pretty much everybody and is remarkably stable.
I realy wonder how so many amarr are having problems. In all of the caldari ops I have taken part in the only people who had issues with eve voice were the ones who didnt turn it on in the options or got the input settings wrong and sounded like a megaphone stuck in a sandstorm.
Its easy to connect, better quality than alot of TS/Vent severs I have joined, very secure and most importantly is very fast to connect to.
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Steve Celeste
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
I realy wonder how so many amarr are having problems.
They are just trying to blame outside sources, when in fact it is their own incompetence that is to be blamed.
This type of behaviour is usually found in people with low self-esteem.
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Karina Harington
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:26:00 -
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The quality of EVE voice is very good, but the compatibility really isn't up to snuff. Teamspeak may have low quality these days, but it works on pretty much every computer you want to put it on.
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