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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 04/07/2008 19:15:29
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
Business wants peace more than the hippies do.
Wars blow things up and disrupt things like ... for example ... oil production.
Business hates that.
Not if you are in the arms business. Also, Corporation owns lobbyist, lobbyist gives money to politican, politican votes for corporation.
The US government is lending money for the wars from private bankers that charge interest on the money, private bankers that profit greatly from first destroying a country, then rebuilding it again. They have been known to fund both sides of wars since the start of the last century.
Business is good.
--- Its dead, Jim.
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Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:25:00 -
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Quote:
Or have you forgotten about 9/11?
You know - the thing that got us to do what we should have done 10 years ago in Iraq?
*blinks* yeah what is the connection between 9/11 and the war in Iraq? I never understood that one
__________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck You're forgetting in which way war is good for business.
Horse manure.
Stable governments with citizens that make enough money to buy your stuff are what's good for business.
War torn nations with impoverished citizens aren't good for anybody.
Democracies don't make war on each other because most people don't care enough about going to war unless they've got a really good reason.
But governments led by fanatics religious, political or otherwise do.
Wars are NOT good for business.
Peace, with lots of happy consumers is good for business.
As I said they'll make a buck anywhere they can but defense contracting is risky. Businesses don't like risk. They'd rather sell pop music or hot dogs than pour millions into development of a project that doesn't get selected or gets canceled. Obviously, you've got some defense contractors - but most businesses are not in the defense contracting business. Just take a look at all the defense contractors that don't exist any more. Look at all the mergers. They didn't merge because they wanted to - they merged because they had to.
But that is typical Liberal thinking and crap talk. Most Liberals don't know squat about business, because they think they're to good and noble to grub for money.
Conservatives think Liberals are to stupid to grub for money.
Neither one knows the other. They just swallow the silliness their friends all mouth and follow the current fads like the sheep they mostly are.
Well, I've passed on enough jewels of wisdom for one day. Time to go waste my time in a different way ... like maybe playing the game or watching cartoons.
Anyway, I wish Barack luck as President. Given the fact the poor man has no idea what he's doing he's really going to need it. But we survived 8 years of Ronald Reagan, we'll probably survive Barack Obama ... even if a few million people else where don't.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 04/07/2008 19:58:28
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk Well, I've passed on enough jewels of wisdom for one day.
That's probably the part you should have called horse manure.
edit: given all the fallacies you succumbed to.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.04 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u If you dont believe me go to your nearest airforce base and find a way in, they play the national anthem at 5 pm wherever it is and the rules are as follows.
If your in a car whilst its playing you must pull over and stop.
If your not in uniform you must stop and stand at attention with your hand on your heart facing the direction of the anthem.
If your in uniform you must salute the nearest flag to you, this is null and void if there is no nearby flag and you must revert to rule two.
loooooooooooool this is tragic
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Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.04 22:56:00 -
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Obama hates America, therefore God hates Obama. Anyone who voted or votes for that negro is committing a grave sin against your Lord and Saviour. Vote for McCain if you support saving the souls of innocent misguided muslims by sending them directly to God.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.04 23:04:00 -
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I've taken note lately that god really promotes racism.
Originally by: El'tar I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME!
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Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.04 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I've taken note lately that god really promotes racism.
Shut up, democrat. God loves our country, and obama hates it since he doesn't even know what to do with his monkey hands when the anthem's playing. God hates abominations like that.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.07.04 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Fabien Aldric Obama hates America, therefore God hates Obama. Anyone who voted or votes for that negro is committing a grave sin against your Lord and Saviour. Vote for McCain if you support saving the souls of innocent misguided muslims by sending them directly to God.
Who said god loved america to begin with, are these not seven plagues besetting you? Religious nuts, we ship them off far far away and the internet brings them smackdab in close again. 
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.04 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 04/07/2008 23:36:23
Originally by: Fabien Aldric
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I've taken note lately that god really promotes racism.
Shut up, democrat. God loves our country, and obama hates it since he doesn't even know what to do with his monkey hands when the anthem's playing. God hates abominations like that.
God hates......
Man I've been lied to time and time again by others who tell me that god loves all his children.
Originally by: El'tar I WOULD WARRIOR FOR WOMAN BELONG TO ME!
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.07.04 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: Fabien Aldric Obama hates America, therefore God hates Obama. Anyone who voted or votes for that negro is committing a grave sin against your Lord and Saviour. Vote for McCain if you support saving the souls of innocent misguided muslims by sending them directly to God.
lol, you know muslims believe in jesus right.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.07.05 00:01:00 -
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I love how they always tell us what god hates... it's like the whiners here telling the devs what they meant for the game to be like 
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Xrak
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.05 00:54:00 -
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Are you sure you have enough line breaks in your posts Toshiro GreyHawk?

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Sirikar Nakasoroki
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Posted - 2008.07.05 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
Originally by: P'uck You're forgetting in which way war is good for business.
Horse manure.
Stable governments with citizens that make enough money to buy your stuff are what's good for business.
War torn nations with impoverished citizens aren't good for anybody.
Democracies don't make war on each other because most people don't care enough about going to war unless they've got a really good reason.
But governments led by fanatics religious, political or otherwise do.
Wars are NOT good for business.
Peace, with lots of happy consumers is good for business.
As I said they'll make a buck anywhere they can but defense contracting is risky. Businesses don't like risk. They'd rather sell pop music or hot dogs than pour millions into development of a project that doesn't get selected or gets canceled. Obviously, you've got some defense contractors - but most businesses are not in the defense contracting business. Just take a look at all the defense contractors that don't exist any more. Look at all the mergers. They didn't merge because they wanted to - they merged because they had to.
But that is typical Liberal thinking and crap talk. Most Liberals don't know squat about business, because they think they're to good and noble to grub for money.
Conservatives think Liberals are to stupid to grub for money.
Neither one knows the other. They just swallow the silliness their friends all mouth and follow the current fads like the sheep they mostly are.
Well, I've passed on enough jewels of wisdom for one day. Time to go waste my time in a different way ... like maybe playing the game or watching cartoons.
Anyway, I wish Barack luck as President. Given the fact the poor man has no idea what he's doing he's really going to need it. But we survived 8 years of Ronald Reagan, we'll probably survive Barack Obama ... even if a few million people else where don't.
wow just wow so patriotic, listen i think my cats stuck up my tree pls can ya mobilise the troops and come save him? honestly without the us military I dont know what i'll do...pooor fluffy could die...btw did i mention i have a oil well?
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mamolian
Eternity INC. Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.07.05 03:23:00 -
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Edited by: mamolian on 05/07/2008 03:23:46 Is it surprising in anyway.. reading this thread.. That the average IQ is only 100? This is one ****ing fail thread. Get out.  -----------
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
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Posted - 2008.07.05 05:23:00 -
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Pavlov's dog.
EVE History Wiki
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.07.05 05:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 05/07/2008 05:24:21
Originally by: Fabien Aldric Obama hates America, therefore God hates Obama. Anyone who voted or votes for that negro is committing a grave sin against your Lord and Saviour. Vote for McCain if you support saving the souls of innocent misguided muslims by sending them directly to God.
I wonder how a baby grows up to be so misguided as you have become... in any case, they should make it illegal, whatever it is.
--- Its dead, Jim.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.07.05 05:38:00 -
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Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 05/07/2008 05:43:29
Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest
Quote:
Or have you forgotten about 9/11?
You know - the thing that got us to do what we should have done 10 years ago in Iraq?
*blinks* yeah what is the connection between 9/11 and the war in Iraq? I never understood that one
Not surprised you never understood it because there is nothing to understand.
There is no connection. None.
Want a fun book to read? Try, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder. The guy who wrote it is a multiple bestselling author and also considered one the best (and perhaps THE best) prosecutor in the United States who, among other things, put Charles Manson in jail. IIRC he has won 106 of 107 of all felony prosecutions he did. He is NOT a lefty wingnut. He literally believes (and lays it out in his book in detail) that George Bush can be prosecuted in all 50 states.
One can only hope a thrill seeking prosecutor in one of those states will try.
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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Catherine Bennet
Caldari Alloyed Tritanium Bar And Grill
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Posted - 2008.07.05 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: mamolian
Is it surprising in anyway.. reading this thread.. That the average IQ is only 100? This is one ****ing fail thread. Get out. 
Um...
The average IQ _is_ 100. Yes. That's how it works.
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Keorythe
Caldari Terra Rosa Militia Sev3rance
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Posted - 2008.07.05 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Keorythe on 05/07/2008 11:05:35
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h it was widely regarded as one of the better political speeches in a long time (actually this guy is an amazing speaker...his speech on racism in the US last March was considered the best political speech in 40 years).
His speeches have been blah, and frankly its pretty pathetic that people keep making these kinds of platitudes about his speeches which aren't that great. If he gave a speech about taking a dumb people would claim its the greatest speech in decades despite not really saying much and dodging the topic (corn or peanuts). I'll admit he's got a great voice..for reading the teleprompter..which has a speech written by someone else and vetted through his army of "safe" PC people.
As far as the hand of the heart and lapel pin you would think that someone with his particular policy scheme would know better. Its not an issue if he just doesn't feel like doing it. He's making it a point not to do it. Perception is everything in diplomacy and foreign politics. If he's seen as unpatriotic, counter-culture, or radical by foreign leaders he's going to have a very hard time with his diplomacy. Expect to see him viewed as "soft", confused, and not willing to play ball by nations that aren't very cordial with the US. Based on his "current" policy ideas thats going to be very tough to avoid should he become president.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.07.05 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic Yes, I'm positive that Obama didn't place his hand over his heard because he hates freedom. He's also apparently a Muslim and a Murderer. 
You forgot to mention that he eats babies. Zzz research towers Direrie NEW: Liekuri
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.07.05 12:22:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 05/07/2008 12:33:36
Originally by: Keorythe Perception is everything in diplomacy and foreign politics. If he's seen as unpatriotic, counter-culture, or radical by foreign leaders he's going to have a very hard time with his diplomacy.
Obama is pretty much liked all over the world it seems, unlike the Bush crime family. I dont think you need to worry about his skills in foreign diplomacy. This guy is actually smart and can think for himself, which is a step in the right direction for US presidents.
And will you stop with terms like unpatriotic? Nobody outside the US uses ancient terms like that anymore. This is not the 17:th century. --- Its dead, Jim.
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Suze'Rain
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.05 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Suze''Rain on 05/07/2008 12:49:47
Originally by: Jim McGregor
And will you stop with terms like unpatriotic? Nobody outside the US uses ancient terms like that anymore. This is not the 17:th century.
clearly, by "patriotic" they actually mean "raving fascist bigot"
therefore any potential president who displays traits like intelligence, opinion, and even, dare we say it, humility, is in fact an unpatriotic secret a-rab sympathiser who intends to murder babies and allow the mooslim threat to infiltrate the glorious homeland and steal their wives.
or some sort of similar repulsive tripe.
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Kryttos
Hard Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.06 05:52:00 -
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Edited by: Kryttos on 06/07/2008 05:52:17
Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk
Originally by: P'uck Well, I think a war stopped is definetly better than a war "won".
If you pull back your army, what will happen? Iraqis will chase you back to michigan, or what?
Nothing will happen, and people can finally stop dying for someone else's profit.
Shows how much you know.
The same thing will happen that happened when we quit in Vietnam.
Millions of people will die.
Have you heard of Pol Pot who exterminated about a third of Cambodia's population?
Do you remember the hundreds of thousands of boat people who drown fleeing from South Vietnam after it fell?
All those people died because we quit and came home so we could sit on our asses and watch TV or go dance in the Disco's. Life was good in the USA and we all thought we were to good to go die in a rice paddy for someone else.
Maybe you don't give a damn if millions of other people die.
That would put you in the majority.
But that's why millions of people get killed all the time.
Rwanda.
The Congo.
Sudan.
Burma.
Somalia.
Not to mention all those that have already been killed in Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan.
Look at the Ethnic Cleansing that went on in the former states of Yugoslavia - which was IN Europe - before anyone got up off that fat asses and did anything.
Oh ... and dying for someone elses profit ...
If we really cared about profit - we would have fraking left S a d d a m in charge. He'd have been more than happy to sell us all the fraking oil we wanted - and at a good price too. Hell - we could have let him keep Kuwait and he'd have been happy to sell us all the oil we wanted.
But - what would we do if he'd taken Saudi Arabia?
What would we be doing if he'd finished the nukes he was working on?
Or if we'd not dismantled those "fertilizer factories" he was producing his chemical weapons at?
And you know something?
Right now - all the crazys who want to die a martyr so they can get their 40 virgins - they're fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Maybe you'd like it if they did come to Detroit and drop a building.
Or have you forgotten about 9/11?
You know - the thing that got us to do what we should have done 10 years ago in Iraq?
The thing that got us to go into Afghanistan and put on the run the people who'd been bombing our ships, barracks and Embassies for years?
A war you "stop" because you quit is NOT better than one you've stopped because you won.
Hehe more Iraqis have died because of misguided bombs/bullets than Sad.dam ever killed =p [email protected] |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.06 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 06/07/2008 14:27:14 Funny how patriotism is considerd a virtue in some countries.
Remember that other great leader who liked to use the word?
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Malashek Vatrii
Kaminjosvig Mournival Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 15:16:00 -
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This thread makes me so glad I'm not American. I don't have to join in the debate heh.
Oh, and "Global Warming" is a fallacy. Just thought I'd throw that in.
Malashek Vatrii Kaminjosvig CEO & Mournival Alliance Diplomat |

Aindrias
Amarr Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 15:41:00 -
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/25/does-this-make-george-hw_n_88397.html
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/10/23/fox_friends_makes_a_big_deal_of_barack_obam_not_putting_his_hand_over_heart_during_national_anthem_but_bush_made_his_own_mistake.php
Let us put this to rest thanks!
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HankMurphy
Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.07.06 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: HankMurphy on 06/07/2008 15:57:44
Originally by: Aindrias http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/25/does-this-make-george-hw_n_88397.html
http://www.newshounds.us/2007/10/23/fox_friends_makes_a_big_deal_of_barack_obam_not_putting_his_hand_over_heart_during_national_anthem_but_bush_made_his_own_mistake.php
Let us put this to rest thanks!
yeah but G.W. is "insert term that indicates an incredibly low intelligence also possibly indicating brain damage". Obama isn't.
It's ok to rip on Obama... but ripping on "insert term that indicates an incredibly low intelligence also possibly indicating brain damage" ppl? That's just not cool man. Not cool.
ps: i dont think ******ed should be on the spam filter ------------------------------ of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.06 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: HankMurphy
It's ok to rip on Obama... but ripping on "insert term that indicates an incredibly low intelligence also possibly indicating brain damage" ppl? That's just not cool man. Not cool.
I think the word you were looking for was 'republican' 
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Malashek Vatrii
Kaminjosvig Mournival Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 20:48:00 -
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You people think George Bush is dumb? I'd say he's a ****ing genius. He got you lot to vote him in.
TWICE.
Malashek Vatrii Kaminjosvig CEO & Mournival Alliance Diplomat |
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