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Breck Maladar	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:04:00 - [1] So I have decided to try ratting with my carrier. I read the sticky at the top and it seemed more for pvp. Anyone have any recommendations for a full setup? I am a total carrier nub.
Waxau Unus - Vir Exercitus	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:05:00 - [2] Wishing to rat in a carrier proves your nub status mate :) A raven is faster - Heck, and domi is. Dont waste your isk and so on - Either use it for pvp, logistics, or sell it and take a few days off ratting. Many BS can rat faster than a carrier, and has alot more potential. A carrier IS ONLY a pvp/logistics boat. Not a ratter :D
Trykster	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:11:00 - [3] Edited by: Trykster on 04/07/2008 15:11:28
Breck Maladar	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:12:00 - [4] What about using a sacrildge? Would that be optimal? If so what setup for ratting?
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:12:00 - [5] Edited by: Shadowsword on 04/07/2008 15:13:41 Originally by: Waxau Wishing to rat in a carrier proves your nub status mate :) Really? What arguments do you have to back this statement? If it's only that they just aren't used that way, well, there's a first time for everything. For exmple, the first vaggabonds weren't nanoed, they were used like you'd use a Deimos. And there was much whining about how it was inferior to the gallente ship and worthless. So worthless that a corpmate once had a chance to buy a BPO for 2B, and he regret not having done it.. ------------------------------------------
Cpt Branko Surge. NIght's Dawn	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:15:00 - [6] Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Waxau Wishing to rat in a carrier proves your nub status mate :) Really? What arguments do you have to back this statement? (a) Carriers take quite a while to warp from belt to belt (b) Carriers take quite a while to lock targets (c) Ratting carriers make comedy killmails. They also take quite a bit to warp off. The only sensible way to rat with a carrier is to do it in your own system, carrier parked outside of POS shield, and delegate fighters to something quick, and even then it's nice to have intel what's around, since getting bumped and consequently killed hurts. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:18:00 - [7] Steps to rat in a carrier : 1. Check local 2. Fit tractor beams, salvagers, sensor boosters and nanofit 3. Check local 4. Undock 5. Check local 6. Find a few juicy belts that you cycle thru back and forth while doing step 7 at the same time 7. Check local 8. ... 9. Check local 10. Profit ! 11. Check local 12. Share profit with Trevor Warps
TheEndofTheWorld Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:22:00 - [8] Edited by: TheEndofTheWorld on 04/07/2008 15:22:52 Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Waxau Wishing to rat in a carrier proves your nub status mate :) Really? What arguments do you have to back this statement? (a) Carriers take quite a while to warp from belt to belt (b) Carriers take quite a while to lock targets (c) Ratting carriers make comedy killmails. They also take quite a bit to warp off. The only sensible way to rat with a carrier is to do it in your own system, carrier parked outside of POS shield, and delegate fighters to something quick, and even then it's nice to have intel what's around, since getting bumped and consequently killed hurts. a) 3 istab, 2 nano + 1 cap rep <- this makes you very fast, comparable to BSes. b) 3 sensor booster + 2 target painter meds, you don't need anything else in med slots anyway c) self-destruct, and in no way you will be tackled if you actually look at local 1000+ dps + add a remote cap rep so you don't have to scoop the fighters at all. No ammo use, excellent cargo, but if you fight against long range rats you won't get to tractor them as easy. Best belt ratter in-game(... mothership is better).
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:28:00 - [9] Originally by: Cpt Branko Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: Waxau Wishing to rat in a carrier proves your nub status mate :) Really? What arguments do you have to back this statement? (a) Carriers take quite a while to warp from belt to belt (b) Carriers take quite a while to lock targets (c) Ratting carriers make comedy killmails. They also take quite a bit to warp off. The only sensible way to rat with a carrier is to do it in your own system, carrier parked outside of POS shield, and delegate fighters to something quick, and even then it's nice to have intel what's around, since getting bumped and consequently killed hurts. a/ With 2 inertia, 2 nanofiber and max skills, it align about as fast as a BS. While the warp speed might be slow (no idea, I don't have a carrier), that must not be much of an issue if you have most of the belts around the same planet. b/ Farming properly means you kill only the BS, so hte locking time isn't too long. c/ Comedy killmails because they aren't used much like that, and most people tend to mock and not to think if they see something weird, but I expect it to change over time. If it is more effective at ratting than a BS or marauder, then there is no reason not to use it for that purpose. ------------------------------------------
JS LiamElms Gallente Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:28:00 - [10] epic you go kill them dam rats
Dark Phox Caldari Demon Theory OWN Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:30:00 - [11] I'm waiting to see the thread about ratting in Dread's and Titans to fill the gap.
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:32:00 - [12] 1000+ dps is quite easy to reach in some battleships. I'm pretty sure I can outrat most carriers (if not all, with ease, too) in my phoon. I haven't ran the numbers in some time, but I'm pretty sure no amount of nanoing and sensorboosting will put it above a battleship, especially since most battleships can go nano/damagemods too. Even dedicated armortanking BS can be shieldtanked and filled to the brim with damagemods for beltratting. I don't see any reason to rat in capital ships... unless you're REALLY bored, REALLY rich and REALLY want to. Delegating Fighters is definetly better.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:33:00 - [13] Originally by: JS LiamElms epic you go kill them dam rats I dunno what to say so I'll just quote this
Flashh Gorden Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:35:00 - [14] The guy asked for a ratting setup for his carrier why not just supply one instead of making stupid comments? He diddnt ask for advice on weather its a good idea or not.
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:40:00 - [15] Originally by: Flashh Gorden The guy asked for a ratting setup for his carrier why not just supply one instead of making stupid comments? He diddnt ask for advice on weather its a good idea or not. If you'd ask me which tires to get for your lamborghini murcielago so you can tow your farm equipment over muddy terrain, id rather point you to a lamborghini tractor than a set of tires.
zayanka	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:48:00 - [16] 3 istab, 2 nanos, cap rep 3 sensor booster, 2 cap rech 5 drone control units 1 capital remote armor rep and lots of drones and fighters
Lithalnas Amarr Headcrabs	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:50:00 - [17] ether this guy ebays... or its a trap. ------------- fixed for greater eve content
Boz Well	Posted - 2008.07.04 15:59:00 - [18] It's definitely doable if you don't mind risking your carrier, but probably not worth it. I had an alliance mate who used to do this, until one day he got caught by roamers, heh. Next 15 minutes consisted of him screaming for help on alliance/intel and them screaming for backup on their channels. In the end, I think he survived, but he uses a Raven now and assigns fighters.
Lubomir Penev interimo	Posted - 2008.07.04 16:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Breck Maladar So I have decided to try ratting with my carrier. I read the sticky at the top and it seemed more for pvp. Anyone have any recommendations for a full setup? I am a total carrier nub. Fittings : small tower of type appropriate to your local ice stasis webification battery x 2 warp scramblig battery x 2 small guns x 10 This is to repel nano gangs so they can not just bump you out of the shield while killing you. Then Fighters appropriate for the local rats 2 friends or alt in AF Tactic : deploy POS, hug force field, assign fighters, profit -- Coming to you, Assault Ships fix, by the people saying that the Gallente Recons are fine.
Elhina Novae Amarr Destruction Reborn CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.07.04 16:17:00 - [20] Originally by: Trevor Warps Steps to rat in a carrier : 1. Check local 2. Fit tractor beams, salvagers, sensor boosters and nanofit 3. Check local 4. Undock 5. Check local 6. Find a few juicy belts that you cycle thru back and forth while doing step 7 at the same time 7. Check local 8. ... 9. Check local 10. Profit ! 11. Check local 12. Share profit with Trevor Warps This is the way to do it ^^ A guy in my former alliance did loads of isk in drone regions using a nano thanatos. He had no tank at all since it wasn't needed (the rats would never eat through his shields) Somebody set up us the bomb
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.07.04 16:23:00 - [21] Originally by: P'uck 1000+ dps is quite easy to reach in some battleships. I'm pretty sure I can outrat most carriers (if not all, with ease, too) in my phoon. I haven't ran the numbers in some time, but I'm pretty sure no amount of nanoing and sensorboosting will put it above a battleship, especially since most battleships can go nano/damagemods too. Even dedicated armortanking BS can be shieldtanked and filled to the brim with damagemods for beltratting. I don't see any reason to rat in capital ships... unless you're REALLY bored, REALLY rich and REALLY want to. Delegating Fighters is definetly better. Ships that can do 600+ dps while still having a tank probably can be counted with the finger of one hand, and you must spend quite some time running after targets, but that's a valid argument. Yet, dps isn't the main reason why carriers seem to be better ratters. The reason is loot. One of those carrier-ratter I know say he get up to 7500m3/hour of loot. ------------------------------------------
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.04 16:27:00 - [22] Edited by: P''uck on 04/07/2008 16:36:15 If you're going for loot you'll suffer even more from the horrible turning times. edit: and don't say "but what if the enemies come close", because then you'd just take a close range BS and simply outrat the carrier with bounties, again. and another edit, just for the record: when you hit about 800dps output all you need as a tank is a medium shield booster and two hardeners, for beltratting... unless sansha, then you'd probably do something similar to your armor.
MarleWH	Posted - 2008.07.04 17:05:00 - [23] Sit at a pos and assign fighters to your friends I believe is the only feasible thing to do.
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2008.07.04 17:44:00 - [24] Originally by: Elhina Novae This is the way to do it ^^ A guy in my former alliance did loads of isk in drone regions using a nano thanatos. He had no tank at all since it wasn't needed (the rats would never eat through his shields) Yep, but most forum warriors are so clueless and too busy smacktalking that they didnt get it. If I posted the cookie cutter mids and lows with tractor beams in highs everybody would have went /signed or "This".
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.07.04 18:23:00 - [25] If you can afford to rat in a carrier...why rat in a carrier? The lulz? Seriously though, grab an alt or friend domi or something with a decent tank, assign fighters, profit. -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2008.07.04 18:36:00 - [26] Originally by: Haradgrim If you can afford to rat in a carrier...why rat in a carrier? The lulz? Seriously though, grab an alt or friend domi or something with a decent tank, assign fighters, profit. I dont do that, but I am pretty the reasons are being able to loot everything and keep everything without docking / dropping loot somewhere. Reason 2 is not everybody as alt and friends arent always there.
Lubomir Penev interimo	Posted - 2008.07.04 19:01:00 - [27] Originally by: Trevor Warps If I posted the cookie cutter mids and lows with tractor beams in highs everybody would have went /signed or "This". All while spamming locator agents. -- Coming to you, Assault Ships fix, by the people saying that the Gallente Recons are fine.
Kerdrak 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.04 19:23:00 - [28] 1¦ Fit it with expensive officer/deadspace mods to enhance your EVE gaming experience 2¦ Convo me ingame, I will find a nice system for you to rat 3¦ Jump to me, I have cynosural skill trained to lvl 4 <- this is important 4¦ Profit ________________________________________
ceyriot Entropians on Vacation	Posted - 2008.07.04 23:37:00 - [29] Originally by: Breck Maladar So I have decided to try ratting with my carrier. I read the sticky at the top and it seemed more for pvp. Anyone have any recommendations for a full setup? I am a total carrier nub. Theres two ways to go around ratting with a Thanny. --One-- 1. Park at POS 2. Assign fighters to BC (or bigger) ship of your alt 3. Go on alt and go ratting. --Two-- 1. Park at station 2. Sell Thanatos 3. Buy battleship 4. Rat Faction Store - Killboard
Twin blade Minmatar The Triangle	Posted - 2008.07.04 23:56:00 - [30] If he starts to rat in a carrier i will take a rookie ship and kill him my self. Death is great rember where all dying to get there.
VicturusTeSaluto Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.07.05 00:11:00 - [31] Originally by: Trevor Warps Originally by: Haradgrim If you can afford to rat in a carrier...why rat in a carrier? The lulz? Seriously though, grab an alt or friend domi or something with a decent tank, assign fighters, profit. I dont do that, but I am pretty the reasons are being able to loot everything and keep everything without docking / dropping loot somewhere. Reason 2 is not everybody as alt and friends arent always there. Any carrier pilot worth a damn will have an alt. Are you going to rely on someone else for your emergency cyno?
Night Tripper Es and Whizz	Posted - 2008.07.05 00:12:00 - [32] best way is to take the following steps: fit your carrier, with 2 smart bombs, cloak, drone control unit and tractor beam. rest of ship tank. undock, self destruct. buy a raven, start ratting with that, and you will end up at the same outcome, and will have saved a lot of time.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.07.05 05:49:00 - [33] I like all the people who say, "well a carrier can be the best ratter if you use it right." You people are dense in the head. Reasons why ratting with a carrier in a belt is bad: 1) You are ratting so you will get bored and you will not be paying full attention. In 0.0 this is very bad as you will die eventually. 2) When you die in a ratting carrier, it is extremely embarrassing to you, your corp, and your alliance. If you lose a carrier while ratting they should boot you out for being so dumb. 3) You lose a ton of isk if you die, the risk/reward is not worth it. If you lose an insured BS, who cares. But if you lose a carrier even if it is insured then that is pretty harsh as a lot of the isk is in the fighters and mods which you will not be able to retrieve from your wreck. People who get a carrier and instantly think about ratting in it **** me off for some reason. It's like they train for a year to fly this ship and then only think about ratting in it? The ship doesn't really have anything to do with ratting and that's all you want to use it for, ugh. It's especially bad when a carrier-carebear gets into an actual pvp capital gang and doesn't have skills for capital remote reps and doesn't have any smartbombs or heavy neuts. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Gajotres Gallente 4 wing	Posted - 2008.07.05 05:54:00 - [34] Edited by: Gajotres on 05/07/2008 05:55:33 link you can be realy nice add on someones killboard like this one
Tai Paktu Ataraxia.	Posted - 2008.07.05 05:58:00 - [35] Originally by: Breck Maladar So I have decided to try ratting with my carrier. I read the sticky at the top and it seemed more for pvp. Anyone have any recommendations for a full setup? I am a total carrier nub. I you'd like, I can give you some suggestions for good systems to rat in. Additionally, you should faction fit your carrier, supplement deadspace and officer mods as desired. ______ http://eve-files.com/sig/TaiPaktu/sig3.PNG
Rellana DAB THE VILLAGE PE0PLE	Posted - 2008.07.05 05:59:00 - [36] Actually I've ratted with a mate in my corp before and isn't wasn't that bad,but we had 5 in our gang as well.First the system be rated in is a dead-end system with one entrance,and we have a pos in said system so we parked a dictor there,to give warning of any unwanted visitors.Then I checked out the belts in my drake,and went I found a decent spawn,got full aggro,then everyone else would warp in,with fighters assigned and demolish the belt in short order,then they would salvage/loot while I found the next decent spawn,but I would not advise solo ratting in a carrier,you'll atttract every pirate to come gank you,all it takes is one scout to report"solo carrier ratting"
xithus AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.05 07:02:00 - [37] use three accounts atleast for optimal ratting, one carrier and two tanked salvage ships, assign fighters to both tanked salvage ships, lock down a system to yourself and always keep your carrier orbitting at minimum range around a friendly pos, get inside the shields and warp off the salvage ships as soon as anything neutral or below enters local. thats about all their is to it. P.S. make sure the pos is well armed preferably with guns to take out small ships like tacklers.
Lykah Storm Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.05 07:29:00 - [38] Chimera does align in 9.3 seconds with 4x inertial stabs and 3x polycarbs, without polycarbs it does it in 14 seconds.. Raven does align with ratting fit and with V skills in 15.3 seconds..
Katarrin	Posted - 2008.07.05 08:51:00 - [39] Edited by: Katarrin on 05/07/2008 09:15:28 Edited by: Katarrin on 05/07/2008 09:13:50 Edited by: Katarrin on 05/07/2008 08:54:30 The best ratting ship in Gurista and Serpentis space, at least, is a gank fit Deimos or Astarte. Astarte is a bit slower getting safe than a Deimos though, and more expensive ofc. Also, when small gangs enter system, I head out of the belt with the mwd and let the bad guys find me. They're going to warp to 0 to find me in the belt and by then I have plenty of distance to decide if you want to engage or not. I can fit a PvP setup no problem and rat very effectively. Loot/salavge isnt so good in a Deimos though. I can make a ton of isk in bounties to offset that little bit of loss and buy whatever I need. I have had many 500mil weeks and many 200mil days in a Deimos and no unexpected losses in it. You might say a Raven can kill rats faster, that MAY be true but it cant clear the entire system nearly as fast as a Deimos. By the time the Raven has gotten to the next belt, the Deimos has them dead. So to me the best ratting ship in game, at least in those areas is by far the Deimos. Cheaper than any BS and faster at getting around. Its a very quick warping ship, quick enough to keep running safe spots or to dock if in a station system when you get too many neutrals in system. But I would probably like to try a Thanatos for ratting, for lols if nothing else. ONLY in a station system, I would nano it too. Keep an eye on local and region/constellation intel channel no doubt, or go with a PvP setup if I had plenty of good, reliable help around that would come to my aid if deemed necessary. in that case it would make pretty good bait for some kills :).
Lykah Storm Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.05 21:52:00 - [40] And just btw I did rat in Raven back in days for many months and there isn't really much of chance to get killed if you just keep the simple tactic. 1.) Always aligned to your safespot (make it near to some moon etc for landmark) 2.) Fit cloak 3.) Avoid top and bottom belts 4.) When warping to belt, first always aling towards the safespot, keep aligned with fullspeed and after that kill the rats - by doing that you get instawarp right when hostile enters local - and ofc cloak after you hit the safespot (and change your warp, sometimes warp to 70, sometimes warp to 100 etc) And switch your safespot from time to time incase someone has probed it by some reason. I did alot ratting in nearly 30 belt system, I never got caught there in belts. Of course I lost lots of ravens by fooling around in ratting fit trying to help alliance m8s but that's another story Soooo, by sticking in those simple rules you sure can rat in carrier wich is fitted with inertial stabs, my Raven had align time of 15-16 seconds then and never had troubles by that. And in good system you really make so much ISK by bounties and loot that the price of carrier is nothing. That system was perfect for ratting, belts were shape of U letter, you could always warp to zero and there never was asteroids on your way. Rats were always close to that "center" of the belt etc. Really relaxed ratting :)
Raivi Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.07.06 01:09:00 - [41] The best place for carrier ratting is the area in and around Covryn. Pain is a 0.1 deadend system that works quite well. I'd recommend gallente fighters to kill the serpentis rats. --------------------------------------------- Red vs. Blue!
bluebeyond DEATHFUNK R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.07.06 02:57:00 - [42] Originally by: Breck Maladar So I have decided to try ratting with my carrier. I read the sticky at the top and it seemed more for pvp. Anyone have any recommendations for a full setup? I am a total carrier nub. Good god....
SheriffFruitfly Caldari M. Corp	Posted - 2008.07.06 03:24:00 - [43] Originally by: Twin blade If he starts to rat in a carrier i will take a rookie ship and kill him my self. It would be teh awesomez if he did it in our space!

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