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Breck Maladar
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:04:00 -
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So I have decided to try ratting with my carrier. I read the sticky at the top and it seemed more for pvp.
Anyone have any recommendations for a full setup? I am a total carrier nub.
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Waxau
Unus - Vir Exercitus
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:05:00 -
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Wishing to rat in a carrier proves your nub status mate :)
A raven is faster - Heck, and domi is.
Dont waste your isk and so on - Either use it for pvp, logistics, or sell it and take a few days off ratting. Many BS can rat faster than a carrier, and has alot more potential. A carrier IS ONLY a pvp/logistics boat. Not a ratter :D
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Trykster
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:11:00 -
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Edited by: Trykster on 04/07/2008 15:11:28
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Breck Maladar
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:12:00 -
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What about using a sacrildge? Would that be optimal? If so what setup for ratting?
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Shadowsword on 04/07/2008 15:13:41
 Originally by: Waxau
Wishing to rat in a carrier proves your nub status mate :)
Really? What arguments do you have to back this statement?
If it's only that they just aren't used that way, well, there's a first time for everything. For exmple, the first vaggabonds weren't nanoed, they were used like you'd use a Deimos. And there was much whining about how it was inferior to the gallente ship and worthless. So worthless that a corpmate once had a chance to buy a BPO for 2B, and he regret not having done it..
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Waxau
Wishing to rat in a carrier proves your nub status mate :)
Really? What arguments do you have to back this statement?
(a) Carriers take quite a while to warp from belt to belt
(b) Carriers take quite a while to lock targets
(c) Ratting carriers make comedy killmails. They also take quite a bit to warp off.
The only sensible way to rat with a carrier is to do it in your own system, carrier parked outside of POS shield, and delegate fighters to something quick, and even then it's nice to have intel what's around, since getting bumped and consequently killed hurts.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:18:00 -
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Steps to rat in a carrier :
1. Check local
2. Fit tractor beams, salvagers, sensor boosters and nanofit
3. Check local
4. Undock
5. Check local
6. Find a few juicy belts that you cycle thru back and forth while doing step 7 at the same time
7. Check local
8. ...
9. Check local
10. Profit !
11. Check local
12. Share profit with Trevor Warps
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TheEndofTheWorld
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: TheEndofTheWorld on 04/07/2008 15:22:52
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Waxau
Wishing to rat in a carrier proves your nub status mate :)
Really? What arguments do you have to back this statement?
(a) Carriers take quite a while to warp from belt to belt
(b) Carriers take quite a while to lock targets
(c) Ratting carriers make comedy killmails. They also take quite a bit to warp off.
The only sensible way to rat with a carrier is to do it in your own system, carrier parked outside of POS shield, and delegate fighters to something quick, and even then it's nice to have intel what's around, since getting bumped and consequently killed hurts.
a) 3 istab, 2 nano + 1 cap rep <- this makes you very fast, comparable to BSes.
b) 3 sensor booster + 2 target painter meds, you don't need anything else in med slots anyway
c) self-destruct, and in no way you will be tackled if you actually look at local
1000+ dps + add a remote cap rep so you don't have to scoop the fighters at all. No ammo use, excellent cargo, but if you fight against long range rats you won't get to tractor them as easy.
Best belt ratter in-game(... mothership is better).
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Waxau
Wishing to rat in a carrier proves your nub status mate :)
Really? What arguments do you have to back this statement?
(a) Carriers take quite a while to warp from belt to belt
(b) Carriers take quite a while to lock targets
(c) Ratting carriers make comedy killmails. They also take quite a bit to warp off.
The only sensible way to rat with a carrier is to do it in your own system, carrier parked outside of POS shield, and delegate fighters to something quick, and even then it's nice to have intel what's around, since getting bumped and consequently killed hurts.
a/ With 2 inertia, 2 nanofiber and max skills, it align about as fast as a BS. While the warp speed might be slow (no idea, I don't have a carrier), that must not be much of an issue if you have most of the belts around the same planet.
b/ Farming properly means you kill only the BS, so hte locking time isn't too long.
c/ Comedy killmails because they aren't used much like that, and most people tend to mock and not to think if they see something weird, but I expect it to change over time.
If it is more effective at ratting than a BS or marauder, then there is no reason not to use it for that purpose.
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JS LiamElms
Gallente
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:28:00 -
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epic
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Dark Phox
Caldari
Demon Theory
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:30:00 -
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I'm waiting to see the thread about ratting in Dread's and Titans to fill the gap.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:32:00 -
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1000+ dps is quite easy to reach in some battleships.
I'm pretty sure I can outrat most carriers (if not all, with ease, too) in my phoon. I haven't ran the numbers in some time, but I'm pretty sure no amount of nanoing and sensorboosting will put it above a battleship, especially since most battleships can go nano/damagemods too. Even dedicated armortanking BS can be shieldtanked and filled to the brim with damagemods for beltratting.
I don't see any reason to rat in capital ships... unless you're REALLY bored, REALLY rich and REALLY want to.
Delegating Fighters is definetly better.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: JS LiamElms
epic
you go kill them dam rats
I dunno what to say so I'll just quote this
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Flashh Gorden
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:35:00 -
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The guy asked for a ratting setup for his carrier why not just supply one instead of making stupid comments?
He diddnt ask for advice on weather its a good idea or not.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Flashh Gorden
The guy asked for a ratting setup for his carrier why not just supply one instead of making stupid comments?
He diddnt ask for advice on weather its a good idea or not.
If you'd ask me which tires to get for your lamborghini murcielago so you can tow your farm equipment over muddy terrain, id rather point you to a lamborghini tractor than a set of tires.
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zayanka
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:48:00 -
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3 istab, 2 nanos, cap rep
3 sensor booster, 2 cap rech
5 drone control units
1 capital remote armor rep
and lots of drones and fighters
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:50:00 -
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ether this guy ebays... or its a trap.
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.04 15:59:00 -
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It's definitely doable if you don't mind risking your carrier, but probably not worth it. I had an alliance mate who used to do this, until one day he got caught by roamers, heh. Next 15 minutes consisted of him screaming for help on alliance/intel and them screaming for backup on their channels. In the end, I think he survived, but he uses a Raven now and assigns fighters. 
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Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2008.07.04 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Breck Maladar
So I have decided to try ratting with my carrier. I read the sticky at the top and it seemed more for pvp.
Anyone have any recommendations for a full setup? I am a total carrier nub.
Fittings :
small tower of type appropriate to your local ice
stasis webification battery x 2
warp scramblig battery x 2
small guns x 10
This is to repel nano gangs so they can not just bump you out of the shield while killing you. Then
Fighters appropriate for the local rats
2 friends or alt in AF
Tactic : deploy POS, hug force field, assign fighters, profit
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Elhina Novae
Amarr
Destruction Reborn
CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.07.04 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps
Steps to rat in a carrier :
1. Check local
2. Fit tractor beams, salvagers, sensor boosters and nanofit
3. Check local
4. Undock
5. Check local
6. Find a few juicy belts that you cycle thru back and forth while doing step 7 at the same time
7. Check local
8. ...
9. Check local
10. Profit !
11. Check local
12. Share profit with Trevor Warps
This is the way to do it ^^ A guy in my former alliance did loads of isk in drone regions using a nano thanatos. He had no tank at all since it wasn't needed (the rats would never eat through his shields)
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.04 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: P'uck
1000+ dps is quite easy to reach in some battleships.
I'm pretty sure I can outrat most carriers (if not all, with ease, too) in my phoon. I haven't ran the numbers in some time, but I'm pretty sure no amount of nanoing and sensorboosting will put it above a battleship, especially since most battleships can go nano/damagemods too. Even dedicated armortanking BS can be shieldtanked and filled to the brim with damagemods for beltratting.
I don't see any reason to rat in capital ships... unless you're REALLY bored, REALLY rich and REALLY want to.
Delegating Fighters is definetly better.
Ships that can do 600+ dps while still having a tank probably can be counted with the finger of one hand, and you must spend quite some time running after targets, but that's a valid argument.
Yet, dps isn't the main reason why carriers seem to be better ratters. The reason is loot. One of those carrier-ratter I know say he get up to 7500m3/hour of loot.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.04 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 04/07/2008 16:36:15
If you're going for loot you'll suffer even more from the horrible turning times.
edit: and don't say "but what if the enemies come close", because then you'd just take a close range BS and simply outrat the carrier with bounties, again.
and another edit, just for the record: when you hit about 800dps output all you need as a tank is a medium shield booster and two hardeners, for beltratting... unless sansha, then you'd probably do something similar to your armor.
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MarleWH
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Posted - 2008.07.04 17:05:00 -
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Sit at a pos and assign fighters to your friends I believe is the only feasible thing to do.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.07.04 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Elhina Novae
This is the way to do it ^^ A guy in my former alliance did loads of isk in drone regions using a nano thanatos. He had no tank at all since it wasn't needed (the rats would never eat through his shields)
Yep, but most forum warriors are so clueless and too busy smacktalking that they didnt get it. If I posted the cookie cutter mids and lows with tractor beams in highs everybody would have went /signed or "This".
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.07.04 18:23:00 -
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If you can afford to rat in a carrier...why rat in a carrier? The lulz?
Seriously though, grab an alt or friend domi or something with a decent tank, assign fighters, profit.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.07.04 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim
If you can afford to rat in a carrier...why rat in a carrier? The lulz?
Seriously though, grab an alt or friend domi or something with a decent tank, assign fighters, profit.
I dont do that, but I am pretty the reasons are being able to loot everything and keep everything without docking / dropping loot somewhere. Reason 2 is not everybody as alt and friends arent always there.
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Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps
If I posted the cookie cutter mids and lows with tractor beams in highs everybody would have went /signed or "This".
All while spamming locator agents.
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Kerdrak
3B Legio IX
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:23:00 -
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1¦ Fit it with expensive officer/deadspace mods to enhance your EVE gaming experience
2¦ Convo me ingame, I will find a nice system for you to rat
3¦ Jump to me, I have cynosural skill trained to lvl 4 <- this is important
4¦ Profit
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ceyriot
Entropians on Vacation
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Posted - 2008.07.04 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Breck Maladar
So I have decided to try ratting with my carrier. I read the sticky at the top and it seemed more for pvp.
Anyone have any recommendations for a full setup? I am a total carrier nub.
Theres two ways to go around ratting with a Thanny.
--One--
1. Park at POS
2. Assign fighters to BC (or bigger) ship of your alt
3. Go on alt and go ratting.
--Two--
1. Park at station
2. Sell Thanatos
3. Buy battleship
4. Rat
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Twin blade
Minmatar
The Triangle
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Posted - 2008.07.04 23:56:00 -
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If he starts to rat in a carrier i will take a rookie ship and kill him my self.
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