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Antonia Frak Republic University	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:21:00 - [1] Edited by: Antonia Frak on 06/07/2008 22:21:18 Listen to the voice actors: "Operation Trinity to destroy Battlestation CCP" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1edy7RoZL4 WHAT THE ****?
Viqtoria Caldari Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:24:00 - [2] never gonna top dizzy tbh.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:25:00 - [3] Originally by: Antonia Frak Edited by: Antonia Frak on 06/07/2008 22:21:18 Listen to the voice actors: "Operation Trinity to destroy Battlestation CCP" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1edy7RoZL4 WHAT THE ****? fanmade video. also the station CCP was in the 1st jumpgate, and trinity is out and done with. your reading far to into it.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:27:00 - [4] This game is obviously intended to be the cheese to EVE's whine. - DesuSigs
Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:34:00 - [5] Codemasters = crap game.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:36:00 - [6] Originally by: Crumplecorn This game is obviously intended to be the cheese to EVE's whine. CRUMPLECORN!
Stab Wounds Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Esmenet Codemasters = crap game. This.
Tecam Hund The Buggers	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:36:00 - [8] Heh, I like the concept of of Jumpgate, and the game looks good, but this video is just plain cheesy. Not because of Battlestation CCP with Operation Trinity, but all the chatter... Got so annoying I had to stop watching.
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:40:00 - [9] Wow guys, that's really...um...clever of you. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Tarminic Wow guys, that's really...um...clever of you. ITs you, you're the troll in the OP's video, just admit it! j/k
knifee Caldari Euphoria Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:48:00 - [11] Originally by: Viqtoria never gonna top dizzy tbh. Best games ever :D eve-dev - making a good thing better
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.06 22:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Tarminic Wow guys, that's really...um...clever of you. ITs you, you're the troll in the OP's video, just admit it! j/k I have no idea of what you speak! <_< ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2008.07.06 23:00:00 - [13] That video was bloody awful. The voice acting made me want to slap someone. About the only thing that did for me was make me appreciate eve videos more. gg codemasters Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Armoured C Gallente The Aztecs Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.06 23:33:00 - [14] the graphics are nothing to trinity i look at this as wow in space
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.07.06 23:35:00 - [15] Wedge, Iceman, Maverick?! someone call lucas and the navy, tell them that copywritten material was violated. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.06 23:43:00 - [16] Wait, are you saying that there are Game Genie codes for Eve now!? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Mikamir Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.06 23:54:00 - [17] I had signed up for beta for Jumpgate but after hearing what they are planning I decided to withdraw my application. I think they have some interesting concepts but like someone said, this seems more like WoW in space. The more you know...the more you know you don't know!
Tamia Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.07.06 23:57:00 - [18] That game looks horrible. Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
Sylia Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.07.07 00:08:00 - [19] that was possibly more homo erotic than top gun no thats a hell of a feat to beat You praytell are the lamb, and I my friend, I, am the tenderiser.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.07.07 00:15:00 - [20] Originally by: Mikamir I had signed up for beta for Jumpgate but after hearing what they are planning I decided to withdraw my application. I think they have some interesting concepts but like someone said, this seems more like WoW in space. I just signed up to see if the graphics are as bad as they were depicted in the youtube video but what are some of the things you've heard? -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Vrizuh VTECHS	Posted - 2008.07.07 00:54:00 - [21] imagines this in Eve Cruiser 1: Weapons are hot! Cruiser 2:Weapons are hot! Cruiser 3:Weapons are hot! Cruiser 4:Weapons are hot! Cruiser 5:Weapons are hot! Battleship 1: Weapons are hot! Battleship 2:Weapons are hot! Battleship 3:Weapons are hot! Battleship 4:Weapons are hot! Battleship 5:Weapons are hot! Battleship 6:Weapons are hot! FC: Oneiros primary! Frigate 1:Weapons are hot! Frigate 2:Weapons are hot! Frigate 3:Weapons are hot! Frigate 4:Weapons are hot! Frigate 5:Weapons are hot! Bomber 1: Weapons are hot! Bomber 2:Weapons are hot! Bomber 3:Weapons are hot! Bomber 4:Weapons are hot! FC: Guys, Oneiros PRIMARY! Command Ship: Weapons are hot! Interceptor 1: Weapons are hot! Interceptor 2: Weapons are hot! Destroyer: Weapons are hot! Interdictor: Weapons are hot! FC: GUYS!? HAC 1: Weapons are hot! HAC 2: Weapons are hot! God just listening to a bunch of people effectively saying "duhh, my guns are ready" made me cringe. If failure rates are below 50%, you'd think guns NOT being hot would be the alert statement but oh well.
Tarminic 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.07.07 01:05:00 - [22] Originally by: Vrizuh God just listening to a bunch of people effectively saying "duhh, my guns are ready" made me cringe. If failure rates are below 50%, you'd think guns NOT being hot would be the alert statement but oh well. I keep trying to imagine a fleet where the pilots were incapable/unwilling to activate their guns more than 50% of the time, and every time I start laughing uncontrollably. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3)
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2008.07.07 01:06:00 - [23] ...what the hell did I just watch ...
Culmen Caldari Allied Tactical Unit Scalar Federation	Posted - 2008.07.07 01:09:00 - [24] Originally by: Vrizuh imagines this in Eve Cruiser 1: Weapons are hot! Cruiser 2:Weapons are hot! etc actually it'll go... Cruiser 1: Weapons are hot! Cruiser 2: I told you to train thermodynamics to IV! _____________________________________________________ Why do i even need a sig?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.07 01:17:00 - [25] FC: What's your count? pop Everyone (in unison): 1 pop Everyone (in unison): 2 pop Everyone (in unison): 3 etc - DesuSigs
Mankirks Wife	Posted - 2008.07.07 01:22:00 - [26] Originally by: Armoured C the graphics are nothing to trinity i look at this as wow in space I was initially interested in Jumpgate Evolution, but after reading up on its gameplay this is exactly the conclusion I reached as well.
Grarr Dexx Amarr Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.07 01:28:00 - [27] Haha codemasters. This is gonna be a piece of shit laggy, imbalanced game, take my word for it.
Doppleganger Minmatar Imperium Technologies	Posted - 2008.07.07 02:45:00 - [28] Voice over on vid is total crap. The orginal Jumpgate was a blast but Netdevil should know better then let someone else get involved in their games. I thought they learned that lesson on their driving battle game whatever the hell it was.
Khrillian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2008.07.07 03:00:00 - [29] Originally by: Grarr Dexx This is gonna be a laggy, imbalanced game, take my word for it. Funny, I almost thought you were talking about eve for a second.
Kaluu	Posted - 2008.07.07 03:39:00 - [30] /agree the voice overs are crap and so team USA/Texas I predict an epic flop!
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.07 04:01:00 - [31] Originally by: Vrizuh imagines this in Eve Cruiser 1: Weapons are hot! Cruiser 2:Weapons are hot! Cruiser 3:Weapons are hot! Cruiser 4:Weapons are hot! Cruiser 5:Weapons are hot! Battleship 1: Weapons are hot! Battleship 2:Weapons are hot! Battleship 3:Weapons are hot! Battleship 4:Weapons are hot! Battleship 5:Weapons are hot! Battleship 6:Weapons are hot! FC: Oneiros primary! Frigate 1:Weapons are hot! Frigate 2:Weapons are hot! Frigate 3:Weapons are hot! Frigate 4:Weapons are hot! Frigate 5:Weapons are hot! Bomber 1: Weapons are hot! Bomber 2:Weapons are hot! Bomber 3:Weapons are hot! Bomber 4:Weapons are hot! FC: Guys, Oneiros PRIMARY! Command Ship: Weapons are hot! Interceptor 1: Weapons are hot! Interceptor 2: Weapons are hot! Destroyer: Weapons are hot! Interdictor: Weapons are hot! FC: GUYS!? HAC 1: Weapons are hot! HAC 2: Weapons are hot! God just listening to a bunch of people effectively saying "duhh, my guns are ready" made me cringe. If failure rates are below 50%, you'd think guns NOT being hot would be the alert statement but oh well. It reminds me of SG-1 DJ - "Be ready to arm the weapons." Bridge Officer - "Just so you know, I'm always ready to arm the weapons." DJ - "Oh, okay. I just thought that's what I was supposed to say." Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Aeo IV Amarr Xomic OmniCorporation	Posted - 2008.07.07 04:02:00 - [32] Dear. God. MY EARS!!!!!
JamnOne Amarr	Posted - 2008.07.07 04:19:00 - [33] Not sure what the hell it was I just watched. I really don't want to do it again as my eyes are now burning. Anyways, if this is for some game out there they lack creativity when they have to pull lines from the movie Top Gun and Star Wars. Damn that was just terrible. ________________________ Originally by: CCP Wrangler So, it's all my fault. Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet!
strcpy	Posted - 2008.07.07 05:16:00 - [34] Edited by: strcpy on 07/07/2008 05:16:09 lol CCP alts troll...Are you scared CCP?.......
Gamesguy Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.07 05:22:00 - [35] It has an fps style aiming system, where even one or two second lag is unplayable. You try playing cs on 1000ping? Its not possible. Its going to be like that for that game, any battles bigger than a couple dozen people will be completely unplayable.
Lecom	Posted - 2008.07.07 05:46:00 - [36] some games have been around longer than eve... www.jossh.com
Victor Valka Caldari Kissaki Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.07 05:53:00 - [37] WTF did I just see...? Originally by: Roxanna Kell You are insane.
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.07.07 06:01:00 - [38] Edited by: Amastat on 07/07/2008 06:02:18 Looks to me like some cheap ripoff attempt at making money with MMO's that will last as long as it can make at least twice the cost of running their cheap server boxes. I guess its kinda like how Warhammer will be like a stunt to lure in WoW gamers. If you look at the history of Codemasters and CCP, their backgrounds, and what they are about, and how CCP makes EVE So different from all the rest of the MMOS - it's pretty obvious which is more corporate and commercialized. This is also not at all the first game Codemasters has made - in fact, they have over 20 games, which most of us probably never heard about, or have found to be really crappy. RF Online and Archlord are probably the ones we all can recognize and remember as being incredibly badly mad. Like RF Online, it's lots of hype - and it won't even get off the ground. Codemasters will make them free, just like RF Online and Archlord, and make money from the loser gamers who suck so bad that they have to buy all their stuff from the Item Malls. Don't think CCP would post about this in a alt, about anything, especially about this - this new game isn't worth the lint between Oveur's toes, if you ask me; I know I won't try it because of how horrible/failures all of Codemaster games are. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.07.07 07:22:00 - [39] Looks interesting. Might be worth a bash but no doubt it'll fail when faced with such intricacies as EVEs market and scope. From what I see its twitch based too. Probably not directly intended to be an EVE competitor but to fill the void of Space Flight MMOs. All we've got at the moment is Vendetta Online and thats not exactly amazing. I wonder if it has walking in stations?
Market AltLOLOLOLO	Posted - 2008.07.07 07:39:00 - [40] Originally by: Grarr Dexx Haha codemasters. This is gonna be a piece of shit laggy, imbalanced game, take my word for it. Depends on how the final game will look like. It could be Planetside style or not. Not point writing anything off since the nautre of shooting in that game is more fun rather than "primary mr x" etc etc. But it could turn out to be crap so its wait and see
Varrakk Phantom Squad G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.07.07 09:58:00 - [41] Originally by: Vrizuh imagines this in Eve Cruiser 1: Weapons are hot! Cruiser 2:Weapons are hot! Cruiser 3:Weapons are hot! Cruiser 4:Weapons are hot! Cruiser 5:Weapons are hot! Battleship 1: Weapons are hot! Battleship 2:Weapons are hot! Battleship 3:Weapons are hot! Battleship 4:Weapons are hot! Battleship 5:Weapons are hot! Battleship 6:Weapons are hot! FC: Oneiros primary! Frigate 1:Weapons are hot! Frigate 2:Weapons are hot! Frigate 3:Weapons are hot! Frigate 4:Weapons are hot! Frigate 5:Weapons are hot! Bomber 1: Weapons are hot! Bomber 2:Weapons are hot! Bomber 3:Weapons are hot! Bomber 4:Weapons are hot! FC: Guys, Oneiros PRIMARY! Command Ship: Weapons are hot! Interceptor 1: Weapons are hot! Interceptor 2: Weapons are hot! Destroyer: Weapons are hot! Interdictor: Weapons are hot! FC: GUYS!? HAC 1: Weapons are hot! HAC 2: Weapons are hot! God just listening to a bunch of people effectively saying "duhh, my guns are ready" made me cringe. If failure rates are below 50%, you'd think guns NOT being hot would be the alert statement but oh well. Lets not forget everyone reporting: "Im taking fire" "My shields are down" etc Rock is overpowered, please nerf. Paper is fine. Yours truly, Scissors
ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.07.07 10:15:00 - [42] Originally by: Gamesguy It has an fps style aiming system, where even one or two second lag is unplayable. You try playing cs on 1000ping? Its not possible. Its going to be like that for that game, any battles bigger than a couple dozen people will be completely unplayable. all wrong there. The only way that problem is going to happen is if they somehow code the game worse then soe did with planetside. I heard they shelved a better way to run the game over the net but opted for a system that was "dial up friendly". If they open servers resembling what soe used to have for PS which was 1 U.S. West, 1 U.S. East and one euro server, it should work fine. the problem will be how good is your own hardware and connection. in PS if you have decent hardware your going to get decent FPS in spite of the fact that theres 200-300 players all within a relatively small area all firing at each other. so if they can beat a 5 year old game that used older technology at the time of its release, it could be playable. now the whole voice acting, ive heard better over TS servers then that scripted shit. some companies dont realize that the players start taking stupid crap like that as an insult to their intelligence. I'm already thinking just based off of the voice acting that its a half assed game. I'd love another MMOFPS game and a BSG like game where its based off of twitch instead of F1-F8 keys and stats. give me stats and twitch ftw.
Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:26:00 - [43] Originally by: ShardowRhino The only way that problem is going to happen is if they somehow code the game worse then soe did with planetside. Try another game made by Codemasters and you will probably not be so confident.
Varrakk Phantom Squad G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.07.07 11:35:00 - [44] How many here played the SWG expansion "Jump to Lightspeed" Lag played a big factor but still fun. I owned Sunrunner Rock is overpowered, please nerf. Paper is fine. Yours truly, Scissors
Varitus Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:41:00 - [45] I, for one, wish them well. Competition is never bad for the consumer. I highly doubt they will even try to do anything with the scope of Eve though, looks like another Planetside without the ground troops.
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:51:00 - [46] Codemasters have far outdone themselves this time. For 99p I get ZX spectrum tape that is a game looking like EVE? Awesome. This will sit proudly up there with Dizzy and Robin Hood.
Slanty McGarglefist	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:53:00 - [47] First off, has anyone seen any of Codemaster's works? Most of them aren't very good except for Operation Flashpoint, but that also was buggy as all hell and it still is. Let's not mention Armed Assault either, shudders. I wouldn't consider Codemasters to be a prime source of competition. In fact, I wouldn't consider them at all. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Wrangler No Doh!
Guillight BLue Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:55:00 - [48] Originally by: Tecam Hund Heh, I like the concept of of Jumpgate, and the game looks good, but this video is just plain cheesy. Not because of Battlestation CCP with Operation Trinity, but all the chatter... Got so annoying I had to stop watching. Jumpgate Revolutions won't even have avatars. So basically it will be like EVE, but with far less features, just the only difference is that you can pilot with your ****...ehh stick lol. They now even follow the exact same map structure as the EVE universe, with center being safe zone and outer map segments being danger zones.
Viqtoria Caldari Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.07.07 12:56:00 - [49] oh man it's like that comedy scetch inside my head of someone making a gun go click clack and all those other ch1nky metal noises for like ages in an ever more comedically intense fashion before he finally shoots it.
Eevul Rabbite Universal Securities	Posted - 2008.07.07 13:12:00 - [50] Edited by: Eevul Rabbite on 07/07/2008 13:13:21 HELLO! Pretty much everything said in this thread is wrong. Let me clarify: 1. This is not a ripoff of EVE. Jumpgate was released 2 years before EVE, in 2001. Jumpgate:Evolution is a sequel, basically. 2. Codemasters is NOT developing this game, only publishing it. The game is being made by NetDevil, and yes they're poking CCP apparently. Last time I checked, the old Jumpgate had about 50 players online, so they have reasons to be jealous So the quest to destroy "Battlestar CCP" has begun. That being said, the last time NetDevil destroyed something, it was their own MMO, Auto Assault, R.I.P.
RigelKentaurus Flying Tartiflette Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2008.07.07 13:26:00 - [51] Originally by: Amastat CCP is one of the few makers of MMO's that is putting the quality of their game over profit. Oh yeah, power of two and the whole alt infestation is so improving the quality of EVE over profits. _________ Someday, EVE may look like this.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.07 13:31:00 - [52] Originally by: RigelKentaurus Originally by: Amastat CCP is one of the few makers of MMO's that is putting the quality of their game over profit. Oh yeah, power of two and the whole alt infestation is so improving the quality of EVE over profits. You really think alts are a big deal compared to not sharding the server and not turning it into WoW in space? - DesuSigs
Loller Waffles Minmatar Scoopex	Posted - 2008.07.07 13:33:00 - [53] Limbo of the Jumpgate?
Guillight BLue Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.07.07 13:34:00 - [54] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: RigelKentaurus Originally by: Amastat CCP is one of the few makers of MMO's that is putting the quality of their game over profit. Oh yeah, power of two and the whole alt infestation is so improving the quality of EVE over profits. You really think alts are a big deal compared to not sharding the server and not turning it into WoW in space? Everything has it's theoritical limit. If suddenly another 20-30k people hit the server all the sudden I would love to see what CCP is going to do then ;) Every company is a bussiness. And bussiness is about making money AKA profit! Simple as that. Only thing that doesn't is a non-profit organisation. And rest assured CCP ain't the latter ;) Cheers
Rayne Damage Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.07.07 13:41:00 - [55] " weapons hot and ready..let's go get some". Sounds like bad gay ****o Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking. - Ferdinand Foch.
RigelKentaurus Flying Tartiflette Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2008.07.07 13:47:00 - [56] Originally by: Crumplecorn You really think alts are a big deal compared to not sharding the server and not turning it into WoW in space? Of course they are. The server is not sharded and EVE doesn't look like WoW in space because EVE was meant to become a realistic virtual universe. Alts defeat this purpose. EVE would be so much better without them. Datacore farming alts, industrialist alts, mining alts, etc, are plaguing the economy. Moreover, the number of capital ships in 0.0 would be much lower if cyno alts didn't exist. Many other parts of the game are ruined by alts just like that. _________ Someday, EVE may look like this.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.07 13:51:00 - [57] Originally by: Esmenet Try another game made by Codemasters and you will probably not be so confident. How about GRID and DIRT? Both are amazing games. warp drive active \| nature vraie
Plumpy McPudding	Posted - 2008.07.07 13:54:00 - [58] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Esmenet Try another game made by Codemasters and you will probably not be so confident. How about GRID and DIRT? Both are amazing games. While it's nice to use examples, comparing a racing game to an MMO is a little bit extreme. __________________________ Fear me for I have an insatiable appetite! Proprietor and inventor of Chocolate Chip Chocolate Donut flavored Ice Cream.
Victor Valka Caldari Kissaki Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.07 13:54:00 - [59] Originally by: Guillight BLue Every company is a business. And business is about making money AKA profit! Simple as that. Only thing that doesn't is a non-profit organization. And rest assured CCP ain't the latter ;) Cheers True. But CCP is privately owned company as opposed to publicly owned. The devs own the game. They do not have to answer before the board of directors and/or shareholders. They decide what direction EVE is going to take. They can make whatever profits they feel are adequate. (Of course, it makes sense to make as much as possible but they are not obliged to do so.) Originally by: Roxanna Kell You are insane.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.07 13:55:00 - [60] Originally by: RigelKentaurus Originally by: Crumplecorn You really think alts are a big deal compared to not sharding the server and not turning it into WoW in space? Of course they are. The server is not sharded and EVE doesn't look like WoW in space because EVE was meant to become a realistic virtual universe. Alts defeat this purpose. EVE would be so much better without them. Datacore farming alts, industrialist alts, mining alts, etc, are plaguing the economy. Moreover, the number of capital ships in 0.0 would be much lower if cyno alts didn't exist. Many other parts of the game are ruined by alts just like that. Whether alts harm the game at all is debatable. My point was that CCP making some extra money off them is hardly a big deal when they choose not to make far more money by just turning the whole thing into WoW in Space. - DesuSigs
Winterblink Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.07 14:49:00 - [61] Originally by: Plumpy McPudding Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Esmenet Try another game made by Codemasters and you will probably not be so confident. How about GRID and DIRT? Both are amazing games. While it's nice to use examples, comparing a racing game to an MMO is a little bit extreme. Well, didn't realize that the guy I was quoting had set that as a parameter for his statement. :) warp drive active \| nature vraie
Plumpy McPudding	Posted - 2008.07.07 14:50:00 - [62] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Plumpy McPudding Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Esmenet Try another game made by Codemasters and you will probably not be so confident. How about GRID and DIRT? Both are amazing games. While it's nice to use examples, comparing a racing game to an MMO is a little bit extreme. Well, didn't realize that the guy I was quoting had set that as a parameter for his statement. :) Nope, he didn't! My bad . But i wouldn't worry about Codemasters too much anyway. __________________________ Fear me for I have an insatiable appetite! Proprietor and inventor of Chocolate Chip Chocolate Donut flavored Ice Cream.
woddel Gallente CH Manufacturing and Trading	Posted - 2008.07.07 15:21:00 - [63] hmmm, this is weird... :) somehow reminded me of the movie 'top gun'. but wait, that was like in the 80's... smiles, woddel --- creator and maintainer of eve-commander complete web based character information tool.
Sheila Kiran State War Academy	Posted - 2008.07.07 15:23:00 - [64] Ummm wow has 12 million subscribers. At $20 a month ummm I dont think they are complaigning LOL If this game is Wow in space and get more than a million subscribers realize it is finacially better than eve which in the end is what its all about. Money To make this money the game has to be worth playing. Bash WOW all you want. It caters to a genre that well likes it. Me personally tried it and dont. But I have played the original jumpgate and enjoyed it alot. Jumpgate is not a FPS so much as a space sim. Those who have played freespace, or Independance war can relate. I am looking forward to this game as it has alot of potential and want a flight sim I can actually pilot instead of click here and hope my die roll is better than the person im fighting against. Actual player skill makes a huge diffrence regardless of items which will seperate this game from many other MMOG's. Hate on that wak video all you want. Let us make the final judgement when the game is released. ----- Huh?
Doppleganger Minmatar Imperium Technologies	Posted - 2008.07.07 17:54:00 - [65] Originally by: Eevul Rabbite Edited by: Eevul Rabbite on 07/07/2008 13:47:56 HELLO! Pretty much everything said in this thread is wrong. Let me clarify: 1. This is not a ripoff of EVE. Jumpgate was released 2 years before EVE, in 2001. Jumpgate:Evolution is a sequel, basically. Also, it has little in common with EVE, except the fact that both games have internet spaceships. 2. Codemasters is NOT developing this game, only publishing it. The game is being made by NetDevil, and yes they're poking CCP apparently. Last time I checked, the old Jumpgate had about 50 players online, so they have reasons to be jealous The quest to destroy "Battlestar CCP" has begun. That being said, the last time NetDevil destroyed something, it was their own MMO, Auto Assault, R.I.P. Ah finally someone in this thread that seems to know the history. Personally I can't believe Netdevil is going with codemasters. Remember back in 2001 when they had all those probs with their last publishers of Jumpgate in 3DO? I do not know why the would want to repeat that mistake again with their new sequel and another company.
Bleeshtar	Posted - 2008.07.07 17:59:00 - [66] Maverick? IceMan? Lost my interest right there. Just the thought of Tom Cruise sends shivers down my spine.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.07 18:18:00 - [67] Edited by: Grimpak on 07/07/2008 18:18:15 all in all, the movie sucks, so let's make this thread a "welcome crumplecorm" thread. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Manfred Rickenbocker The Elliance Delta.Green	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:32:00 - [68] Originally by: Doppleganger Originally by: Eevul Rabbite Edited by: Eevul Rabbite on 07/07/2008 13:47:56 HELLO! Pretty much everything said in this thread is wrong. Let me clarify: 1. This is not a ripoff of EVE. Jumpgate was released 2 years before EVE, in 2001. Jumpgate:Evolution is a sequel, basically. Also, it has little in common with EVE, except the fact that both games have internet spaceships. 2. Codemasters is NOT developing this game, only publishing it. The game is being made by NetDevil, and yes they're poking CCP apparently. Last time I checked, the old Jumpgate had about 50 players online, so they have reasons to be jealous The quest to destroy "Battlestar CCP" has begun. That being said, the last time NetDevil destroyed something, it was their own MMO, Auto Assault, R.I.P. Ah finally someone in this thread that seems to know the history. Personally I can't believe Netdevil is going with codemasters. Remember back in 2001 when they had all those probs with their last publishers of Jumpgate in 3DO? I do not know why the would want to repeat that mistake again with their new sequel and another company. ...and yet Jumpgate came out 2 years AFTER what could be considered its source material: X - Beyond the Frontier (which in turn was probably sourced from somewhere else). Historical arguments are silly to this regard so its best to stay out of them. As for this new iteration, who knows as to its success? Ill admit I will take a look, but in the end it will just remind me of a MMO X3 which eve (sans flight physics) satisfies just fine right now. ------------------------ Peace through superior firepower: a guiding principle for uncertain times.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.07 19:33:00 - [69] Originally by: Grimpak Edited by: Grimpak on 07/07/2008 18:18:15 all in all, the movie sucks, so let's make this thread a "welcome crumplecorm" thread. \o/ - DesuSigs
Spineker Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.07.07 21:22:00 - [70] Weapons hot Autotarget at 5 Sitting in Jita
Amastat Caldari Omegatech	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:09:00 - [71] Edited by: Amastat on 07/07/2008 22:10:28 Ok, enough bashing Jumpgate and WoW. Let all the Blizzard-alts and Goons say it's going to be awesome and let them go play it and such. I personally think that EVE and these forums could use a vacation from those guys - at least for the couple months before Codemasters drops the Item Mall bomb onto it like all their other MMO's they made; then we go back to the usual. ____________________ "All warfare is based on deception... we must seem unable...seem inactive...and crush him " - Sun Tzu
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:18:00 - [72] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Grimpak Edited by: Grimpak on 07/07/2008 18:18:15 all in all, the movie sucks, so let's make this thread a "welcome crumplecorm" thread. \o/ eve-O forums were a bit boring without your desu-ness --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Titen	Posted - 2008.07.07 23:14:00 - [73] On a side note, if CCP were really in this for pure financial gain - as in 'the most cash in the RL wallet as is possible' - all they'd have to do is sell isk for real money, prerolled/advanced toons for real money, ships for real money, mods for real money. Heck, at any given time there's a dozen isk seller sites being spammed in the chat channels, and who knows how many things on eBay. CCP would only need to put these things out there on a site, undercut the isk sellers out there now, and basically kill THREE birds with one stone. Bird 1: Isk farmers. CCP sells for far less than the farmers can afford, so the farmers go away. Bird 2: Lag issues. Far fewer sweatshop macro-miners in the game frees up tons of server resources. Bird 3: My monthly account fee. CCP, after using this idea, can reward me by giving me a free account (this bird added purely for selfish reasons).
Forge Lag	Posted - 2008.07.08 00:07:00 - [74] Edited by: Forge Lag on 08/07/2008 00:08:51 CCP is as close to selling ISK as you can get without actually doing it. Hands-off playstyle, promoting farming alts, promoting multiboxing, supporting character and gametime sales. One of many scenarios: buy account, train character, sell for ISK. Lets rather not get into this. Anyway the video had horrible voiceover, unbelievably childish and cheesy. I know nothing about the game but I can imagine it being classic MMO mechanics in space wrapper and I can imagine coping with lag via snap targetting. I can imagine it working. I just cannot fathom what it has in common with EvE.
Johnny Darkseid Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.07.08 00:18:00 - [75] Originally by: Grimpak all in all, the movie sucks, so let's make this thread a "welcome crumplecorm" thread. Yeah. Moar Desu sigs plz.
Ashina Sito Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.07.08 00:30:00 - [76] Originally by: Eevul Rabbite Edited by: Eevul Rabbite on 07/07/2008 13:47:56 HELLO! Pretty much everything said in this thread is wrong. Let me clarify: 1. This is not a ripoff of EVE. Jumpgate was released 2 years before EVE, in 2001. Jumpgate:Evolution is a sequel, basically. Also, it has little in common with EVE, except the fact that both games have internet spaceships. 2. Codemasters is NOT developing this game, only publishing it. The game is being made by NetDevil, and yes they're poking CCP apparently. Last time I checked, the old Jumpgate had about 50 players online, so they have reasons to be jealous The quest to destroy "Battlestar CCP" has begun. That being said, the last time NetDevil destroyed something, it was their own MMO, Auto Assault, R.I.P. This guy has it right. Any of you play Eve when it first came out? A lot of the depth that it has today is AFTER 5 years of steady upgrades and expansions. To expect the same from a new product is foolish. I Beta Tested Jumpgate. It was a nice game. Unfortuantly the did not have a very successful launch. I think their finical backers pushed them to put the game out too early. The didn't even have NPC's in the game a month before it went gold, mostly because they had planned on having everything player based. The fact that Netdevil is still around and producing a second version of Jumpgate says a little something. I am looking forward to the beta, another chance to acutaly pilot my spaceship again. No more rebounding of stations and astroids, instead you go BOOM! I have said it before and I'll say it again, anyone who want to keep flying naos should check out Jumpgate.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.08 01:18:00 - [77] Originally by: Johnny Darkseid Originally by: Grimpak all in all, the movie sucks, so let's make this thread a "welcome crumplecorm" thread. Yeah. Moar Desu sigs plz. I actually have a couple of ideas rolling around... - DesuSigs
Jenny Spitfire Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.07.08 01:23:00 - [78] Originally by: Crumplecorn I actually have a couple of ideas rolling around... Reali? Nice and plaese make moar. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Go vote! Put voice for silent majority. LOVE PVP, HATE grief
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.08 01:31:00 - [79] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Crumplecorn I actually have a couple of ideas rolling around... Reali? Nice and plaese make moar. Jenny changed again while I was gone? She could spell when I left. - DesuSigs
Viddles Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.07.08 01:46:00 - [80] I'll certainly try the beta. However, yeah, that video (if indeed produced by NetDevil/Codemasters) is pretty bad... way too much awful dialogue. I do NOT buy games with that amount of dialogue in them. It is the worst of "Starlancer" and "Freelancer" combined. There is no doubt in my mind that employees are reading those lines too, not actors; bad acting, and bad writing make it worse. The other poster that said "EVE has had 5 years of development and it shows" is right - there is tons of content in EVE that NetDevil can't possibly hope to match. They're just way behind the curve... it is very difficult to get into the space MMO field now with that 800lb gorilla (named EVE) in the room that has 5 years' advantage on everyone else. It looks to be more arcadey... and less strategic (which is what EVE is).
Pasha Cracken Caldari Thanos and Killjoy Productions	Posted - 2008.07.08 01:56:00 - [81] i love the forums... wait what -----
Gamesguy Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.08 02:15:00 - [82] Originally by: Sheila Kiran Ummm wow has 12 million subscribers. At $20 a month ummm I dont think they are complaigning LOL If this game is Wow in space and get more than a million subscribers realize it is finacially better than eve which in the end is what its all about. Money To make this money the game has to be worth playing. Bash WOW all you want. It caters to a genre that well likes it. Me personally tried it and dont. But I have played the original jumpgate and enjoyed it alot. Jumpgate is not a FPS so much as a space sim. Those who have played freespace, or Independance war can relate. I am looking forward to this game as it has alot of potential and want a flight sim I can actually pilot instead of click here and hope my die roll is better than the person im fighting against. Actual player skill makes a huge diffrence regardless of items which will seperate this game from many other MMOG's. Hate on that wak video all you want. Let us make the final judgement when the game is released. Except its nothing like wow. Wow is very polished and intuitive, that game is not.
Ekrid	Posted - 2008.07.08 02:42:00 - [83] Epic troll... homemade voiceover + crappy GFX vid = win.
Herateis	Posted - 2008.07.08 02:45:00 - [84] Originally by: Gamesguy It has an fps style aiming system, where even one or two second lag is unplayable. You try playing cs on 1000ping? Its not possible. Its going to be like that for that game, any battles bigger than a couple dozen people will be completely unplayable. I bullseyed wamprats in my t16 back home and they werent much laggier than 2 seconds. Actually, you ever play Mechwarrior 3 online back in the day, like 1990s? That game was fun as hell, but on a modem, you actually had to aim like you were a sniper shooting 2 miles away, and thats with lasers. I was the best lag fighter in that game.. can still remember the time I ran full reverse with full frontal armor killing shadowcat after shadowcat (it was an energy only match, they always bring Scats and 16 small lasers, I brought 5 mediums and 2 ppcs. could get headshots in lag with those things.)
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.08 02:51:00 - [85] Originally by: Ekrid Epic troll... homemade voiceover + crappy GFX vid = win. Have to say, I was losing major interest by the "maverick" and "iceman" callsigns and when the pewpew stuff happened (too frikin dark!). As soon as I heard "battlestation CCP" and "operation trinity" I both woke up and fell on the floor laughing. epic troll indeed :D -
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.07.08 03:00:00 - [86] If they wanted to laugh at CCp - they should have that dude dude going "OMG THAT SHIP IS HUGE - IM GOGIN TO DIE psstch im gonna log off guys tell me if i get out ...... nice thanks.. ill log back off and on a few times then ill be back" SKUNK
Galan Amarias Amarr The Drekla Consortium	Posted - 2008.07.08 03:11:00 - [87] That video was uter fail. My only real question was, "Mavrick you're with me we're going straight in" and they lived? Clearly the game favors ego armor or something. I've read about jumpgate, players get only small fighter ships. The big stuff will be npc but somehow it all dies to little player ships, so why again is anyone building big ships? Seriously, would you spend isk for a BS knowing that any frigate could kill it? -Galan The answer to empire ganking
Titas Agor TITANS OF PEACE	Posted - 2008.07.08 04:18:00 - [88] Video is terrible, not only about the comments in it, but the voice acting was complete garbage! really shows a testiment to what we accomplish as a community in the eve videos aswell as the official ones... Jumpgate will get absolutely no where if their just intent on bashing other companies... as said before, that video was utter fail! that games gonna get wtfpwnd by eve-online... they just have no idea....
Kuar Z'thain Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.08 04:40:00 - [89] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Originally by: Crumplecorn I actually have a couple of ideas rolling around... Reali? Nice and plaese make moar. Jenny changed again while I was gone? She could spell when I left. Welcome, Jenny - Mk. 12 Oh yes, wb Crumplecorn.
Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.08 10:24:00 - [90] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Esmenet Try another game made by Codemasters and you will probably not be so confident. How about GRID and DIRT? Both are amazing games. Hmm i dont like racing games so never tried or seen those. But i've tried some of their mmo's like rf-online and thats complete and utter crap. RF-online greets you with trains of several hundred goldfarmingbots laying waste to the newbie zones and it only gets worse from there.
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Proxenetae Invicti	Posted - 2008.07.08 11:41:00 - [91] Originally by: Manfred Rickenbocker ...X3 which eve...satisfies just fine right now. God no, don't be silly. Until we get ship AI and the ability to control hundreds of ships, it won't even come close to X3. I would jump ship for an X3 online in a second. (Except if it was pish of course ) -- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work.
Manfred Rickenbocker The Elliance Delta.Green	Posted - 2008.07.08 18:52:00 - [92] Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Originally by: Manfred Rickenbocker ...X3 which eve...satisfies just fine right now. God no, don't be silly. Until we get ship AI and the ability to control hundreds of ships, it won't even come close to X3. I would jump ship for an X3 online in a second. (Except if it was pish of course ) See, this is what Im hoping planetary interaction turns out to be: some world-wide RTS thingie with a bit of brains and completely unnecessary toward winning Eve. I can dream~ But! Im glad someone else recognized the superior-ness of X3... that what Im thinking Jumpgate will be like, except made of fail. Now if only there will be an X4... but way bigger and easier to mod. ------------------------ Peace through superior firepower: a guiding principle for uncertain times.

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