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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:03:00 -
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It came to me in a flash of sheer inspiration, lets get rid of jumps gates.
I hear you stand back and ask but why?
1. It seems many don't want gate campers in the game so no gates no campers.
2. Travel nobody wants to take the time to travel as its such a ball ache, so just have an auto warp to destination, i.e. Belt, planet, station.
3. Everyone wants guaranteed safe passage, well with this there is no passage to worry about.
What do you think, I can see it being a great idea!!
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Sonnett
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:05:00 -
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Seems that they're only there because otherwise the map would be far too big... how do you intend to overcome that?
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Phasics
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:06:00 -
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yeah and watch half the PvP player base walk
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Phasics
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:07:00 -
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it would also amke 0.0 mining safe as u can jump out mining and then jump all your ore back into 1.0 sec space
never gonna happen
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Lazarus Longinus
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:11:00 -
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Another vote for the massively-multiplayer-online-single-player-mining-space-sim that we all really want : b
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Phasics
yeah and watch half the PvP player base walk
Well they could fight with other PVPer in special systems where there would be 50 gates in so they could camp all they like.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lazarus Longinus
Another vote for the massively-multiplayer-online-single-player-mining-space-sim that we all really want : b
I was thinking more massively-multiplayer-online-single-player-billionair-mining-safety-sim
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Cool dude
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: Cool dude on 20/05/2004 11:16:35
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Seems that they're only there because otherwise the map would be far too big... how do you intend to overcome that?
By having Clear signposts in each system i.e.:
Yulai
Pator
Yulai (avoiding low bridge)
Hed Gp (Not suitable for large vehicles
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Lazarus Longinus
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:15:00 -
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Ahh, i missed out billionaire and safety : D
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Phasics
it would also amke 0.0 mining safe as u can jump out mining and then jump all your ore back into 1.0 sec space
never gonna happen
This happens now pretty much anyway with insta jumps.
Ok make it take a predetermined time to cover an distance between systems.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:17:00 -
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If you dont want gate campers stay in 0.5 systems and above or find an isolated 0.4 where the majority of pirates cant get to.
If you go to a system that is 0.4 or below you do so at your own risk.
Pirates are as much a part of this game as anybody else and are as important part of the community as anybody else, while they are a pain in the arse at times destroying the game for them isnt what needs to be done.
Making everything instant would also destroy the whole feel of EVE, it just feels big because of the time it takes to move around, it felt huge before super-highways when it could take upwards of 20 jumps to get from one capital system to the next.
There may be a large community of non-pvpers but there is also a large community of pvpers so dont say everybody wants safe passage because they dont.
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Lazarus Longinus
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:19:00 -
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And the award for the category "Unable to see the joke thread" goes to .... ^--- You!!
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Phasics
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Pychian Vanervi
Originally by: Phasics
it would also amke 0.0 mining safe as u can jump out mining and then jump all your ore back into 1.0 sec space
never gonna happen
This happens now pretty much anyway with insta jumps.
Ok make it take a predetermined time to cover an distance between systems.
not true u can easily take our industrial hauling ore in 0.0 by getting then when they try and warp off from gates. if u think transporting ore in 0.0 is a walk in the park your in denile
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Brolly
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:35:00 -
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I have 2 words for you "jump drive", yup, soon no one will be usuing the gates, well, besides noobs, Ganksters whinge about jump drives and Insta's (as always) and the universe may be a better place.
Moo!
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Phasics
not true u can easily take our industrial hauling ore in 0.0 by getting then when they try and warp off from gates. if u think transporting ore in 0.0 is a walk in the park your in denile
If I am swimming in Egypt then maybe I am denile, but other than that I know exactly what I am talking about.
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ActiveX
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Posted - 2004.05.20 11:49:00 -
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Deja vu
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Drakxter
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Posted - 2004.05.20 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pychian Vanervi
1. It seems many don't want gate campers in the game so no gates no campers.
2. Travel nobody wants to take the time to travel as its such a ball ache, so just have an auto warp to destination, i.e. Belt, planet, station.
3. Everyone wants guaranteed safe passage, well with this there is no passage to worry about.
Your right, it does seem like this is what many people want... Really a single player game they play online..
Its sad. 
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.05.20 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Brolly
I have 2 words for you "jump drive", yup, soon no one will be usuing the gates, well, besides noobs, Ganksters whinge about jump drives and Insta's (as always) and the universe may be a better place.
Moo!
Jumpdrives, will if they enter game within the next 2 years, only be fitted on Titans, or special Battleships, not on indys, cruiser and frigates, so you gonna need gates
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
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Karhig Duruckhai
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Posted - 2004.05.20 12:20:00 -
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I'm slightly worried now that this is a serious suggestion... 
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Bohr
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Posted - 2004.05.20 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Karhig Duruckhai
I'm slightly worried now that this is a serious suggestion...
Come on, this is nothing but ranting .
There was a discussion, and clearly has been around before, about instajumps. In which it was pointed out by both sides that it does'nt affect gatecamping (which it does :P). People want their fast travel measures, and want to have that chance of escape preparation can bring. Can't blame them for putting their vote for instajumps. If you take those preparations (in the form of mobile warp disruptors)offered to you by CCP, you'll have an even better chance at catching them.
In before the lock i think.
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:08:00 -
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Actually I think its a pretty good idea.
Get rid of stargates - they are too obvious chokepoints.
Introduce - in addition to Warp - also Jump drives for very-long-range travel.
Plus a set of anti-jump technology with ~au sized range.
The basic jump routes remain - but instead of targetting the StarGate in *this* system, nearby systems would directly appear targettable - with a range listed in lightyears rather than puny AU :P
In terms of PvP and piracy :-
Players still have to go to asteroid belts and stations to get business done.
Plus one could additionally imagine that our ships would be extended to have an multi AU sized radar that would provide enough resolution for us to "Warp to this ship *now*".
This would make PvP far more dynamic. Enemy ships entering a system would:
1. Have to be detected at multi 100 AU range.
2. Would have the option of using sloaking devices to reduce their long range detectibility.
3. Could be intercepted / chased at great range by interceptors with massivly faster Warp speeds.
With stargates acting as absolute chokepoints - it is not only impossible to "run" a gank fleet at a gate (without instas and probably with a low chance of success with), but also to attempt to finesse your way past by running silent as it were.
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:09:00 -
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Stargates are needed to change nodes, so they ain't going anywhere 
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:12:00 -
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The activation of JumpDrive - and "Arrival" in a new sector would implicitly be a node change. Standard loading screen and all.
Its just that the departure and arrival locations will be arbitrary.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Orestes
Stargates are needed to change nodes, so they ain't going anywhere
OK maybe a little drastic but how about a 0km jump in range? I can see that being very popular.
Hey I am just the ideas man today. 
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Mikesnail
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:18:00 -
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this is a really stupid thread imo, how about we just take all the weapons out the game, have all ships fitted with mining lasers when u buy them.... maybe even take out npc rats too so u can mine in peace and harmony?
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mikesnail
this is a really stupid thread imo, how about we just take all the weapons out the game, have all ships fitted with mining lasers when u buy them.... maybe even take out npc rats too so u can mine in peace and harmony?
Now, THAT'S a good idea!
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Orestes
Originally by: Mikesnail
this is a really stupid thread imo, how about we just take all the weapons out the game, have all ships fitted with mining lasers when u buy them.... maybe even take out npc rats too so u can mine in peace and harmony?
Now, THAT'S a good idea!
Excuse me mate, this is my thread, I get to be the sarcastic one until I get locked.
erm...be gentle!! 
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:39:00 -
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Join the IC! |
Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Orestes
Er.....I said be gentle
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GeoNoSiS
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Posted - 2004.05.20 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pychian Vanervi
Originally by: Phasics
yeah and watch half the PvP player base walk
Well they could fight with other PVPer in special systems where there would be 50 gates in so they could camp all they like.
something is telling me that you are joking, but if NOT! dear God may he have mercy on your soul...
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