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General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:16:00 - [1] To be honest I try to keep my nose out of alliance politics whenever I can. However I have a reputation as one of the most thorough and enquiring minds in COAD and was recently asked to conduct a detailed analysis of the real identity of Jotram, the criminal 'mastermind' who stole billions from his own alliance in their greatest hour of need. At first I expected my enquiries to draw a blank, but as my investigations continue I can only conclude that the thief was, in fact, none other than the former alliance leader Mr darth solo. At first I thought this preposterous, but rumours abound on these forums that solo is, in fact, Jotram himself. Let's look at the evidence we know already: Whilst Insurgency was on its last legs, hemmed in on all sides by hostile forces, solo himself ordered all pilots to contract all their remaining possessions to Jotram, and reassured pilots that their assets would be safe/ He made this announcement at almost exactly the time that we subsequently know he had decided to fold the alliance. Motivation to leave with a cut of the takings could well have been too much to bear. However my enquiries have turned over a few new interesting facts about the relationship between Jotram / solo. COINCIDENCE? As was recently noted by another forum member, they have a remarkable knack of cropping up on these forums minutes apart. In fact, if you look back at their posting histories you'll notice a remarkable correlation. HORRIFIC PUNCTUATION Let's take a look at their posting style. To take two random examples: Originally by: "darth solo" as far as im concerned they dont owe any of us anything, they more than earned it, quality corp. d solo. Originally by: "Jotram" Insurgency, im sorry.... so sorry, darth, dont let anyone blame you for this its not your fault. you trusted me and you were brutally betrayed. Quite striking that both use the same 'too cool for capitals' approach to sentence structure, and are unable to use apostrophes correctly. Note the bolded words. NAIL IN THE COFFIN? A couple of final observations. Ask yourself the following... A search on the forums reveals that Jotram was a HUGELY profilic spammer of the recruitment forums on Insurgency's behalf. He appeared to work tirelessly on behalf of the alliance darth led. He also claims to be an extremely active member of leadership. Yet Jotram almose never posted on his own Alliance forums . Why?! It seems strange that someone so active in recruitment chooses never to participate in his own alliance's forums. ----------- The case isn't yet closed, and I don't yet have enough evidence to conclude finally, once and for all, that mr d solo = Jotram. With a razor sharp mind like mine on the case, however, it's only a matter of time. If there's any other way I can help this community, just ask.
Aceoil D00M.	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:18:00 - [2] have they ever appeared on voice comms at the same time?
Kira Knightly Caldari Health and Beauty Spa	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:19:00 - [3] Gawd, Coad (Caod) is so bloody quiet, but even this post wont get me all warmed up down below. P.S hows about assisting the community by chopping your fingers off
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:20:00 - [4] I won't comment on the evidence here but, from a scammers perspective as to whether or not this is a plausible plot, most definately yes. Actually this is one of the more common ways for CEO's to do corp theft and one of the most efficient if done right. As for who really ripped off Insurgency, well I won't give that information away for less than a billion. Methods of Torture - Latrocinium
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:20:00 - [5] Originally by: Aceoil have they ever appeared on voice comms at the same time? Even if the answer to this is yes, that is so simple to fake. Methods of Torture - Latrocinium
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:22:00 - [6] Originally by: Kira Knightly P.S hows about assisting the community by chopping your fingers off Done that already. It's not my finger I'm typing with.
Souisa Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:22:00 - [7] i think youve come as far as anyone would get. and frandly youll never find out more. people who knew about the theft have already been paid
Moon Kitten GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:22:00 - [8] Originally by: Kira Knightly P.S hows about assisting the community by chopping your fingers off I support this.
Xofii Hedion University	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:22:00 - [9] Edited by: Xofii on 07/07/2008 22:24:06 "skull+dug+ger+y or skul+dug+ger+y: Probably alteration of Scots sculduddery, obscenity, animal fornication" I must say you are true to both interpretations of your corpname.. xoxo
Dirtball PinK TacO Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:23:00 - [10] Cunning and rich sounds like the perfect ceo imo.

Bran Stormer GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:31:00 - [11] It was me!!! I'm rich!
Sopha Serpentia Core Dynamics	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:38:00 - [12] And he would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for these pesky windypops.
Bad Borris 20th Legion Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:40:00 - [13] *******s, jotram was doing a bit of fw and i smacked him a bit and he sounded nothing like d solo. Just total, meaningless crap as usual.
Dramatic Statement Southern Dandies Drama Society	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:51:00 - [14] Quote: At first I thought this preposterous, but rumours abound on these forums that solo is, in fact, Jotram himself. Well, I do declare! This has truly given me the vapors! Actually, it doesn't. I thought this was all common knowledge? I can think of several people in positions of power in the former Mercenary Coalition whom also knew this. I wonder what's buying their silence now? Perhaps looking to feast on the corpse of MC v2.0? Bringing a little class to the Dirty South.
touchvill The Pikey Rebellion II	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Bad Borris *******s, jotram was doing a bit of fw and i smacked him a bit and he sounded nothing like d solo. Just total, meaningless crap as usual. I hate you long time! ---------- FUNSICLES
JP Moregain Gallente EVE Reserve Bank	Posted - 2008.07.07 22:57:00 - [16] yes... you must be right. they are clearly the only two people on the interwebs with crappy punctuation and a lack a capitalization useage. also the correlation between deciding to fold an alliance and telling people to contract over assets they need move out is truly uncanny quite powerful evidence sheer windy-poppin-genius Honestly it's always possible that you actually are right, but please offer a bit more compelling evidence than this. This mostly just looks like a COAD character assassination rather than anything that conclusive. Also, making statements like "The case isn't yet closed, and I don't yet have enough evidence to conclude finally, once and for all, that mr d solo = Jotram" shows a bit of bias/forgone conclusion perhaps? http://www.evereserve.com
PsychoBones Sons of Plunder.	Posted - 2008.07.07 23:04:00 - [17] Originally by: General Windypops I try to keep my nose out of alliance politics I stopped reading at this point.
Thorton Araya A.W.M Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.07.07 23:08:00 - [18] Lol Dr. Watson. How's that brick on your head doing?
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.07.07 23:58:00 - [19] didn't read
thelung187 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.07.08 00:02:00 - [20] I can't tell if you're just that dumb, or if this is a sarcastic trollpost for afternoon fun. If the former, I guessed that at the point you compared the two of them mispelling "dont". If that was the smoking gun, rest assured that about 90% of Eve are not Aneu Angellus alts, but in fact, darth solo alts. [ 2005.05.19 22:54:23 ] InnerDrive > only solution safespot till you leave or mine in empire till you leave or s

Farham AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.08 00:18:00 - [21] "Quite striking that both use the same 'too cool for capitals' approach to sentence structure, and are unable to use apostrophes correctly. Note the bolded words." I tried to be a corp thief like that but my inability to quote on internet forums makes it impossible for me to pretend to be a second poster.
Aneu Angellus Caldari Revival.	Posted - 2008.07.08 00:20:00 - [22] Originally by: thelung187 I can't tell if you're just that dumb, or if this is a sarcastic trollpost for afternoon fun. If the former, I guessed that at the point you compared the two of them mispelling "dont". If that was the smoking gun, rest assured that about 90% of Eve are not Aneu Angellus alts, but in fact, darth solo alts. Lies! I own eve! ________________ REVIVAL
Plutonian Plutonian Shore	Posted - 2008.07.08 00:23:00 - [23] Should Eve ever close for good, I ask only that CCP provide a public list of the alts of every character in the game. Not identifying the player... just linking together in a group all the characters which shared that account. People would probably spend months going over the data to see who was screwing who over the years.
Faekurias Black Legion Command Red Dawn Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.08 00:32:00 - [24] Originally by: Plutonian Should Eve ever close for good, I ask only that CCP provide a public list of the alts of every character in the game. Not identifying the player... just linking together in a group all the characters which shared that account. People would probably spend months going over the data to see who was screwing who over the years. I approve of this ^^ -----------------------------------
PsychoBones Sons of Plunder.	Posted - 2008.07.08 02:18:00 - [25] Originally by: Faekurias Originally by: Plutonian Should Eve ever close for good, I ask only that CCP provide a public list of the alts of every character in the game. Not identifying the player... just linking together in a group all the characters which shared that account. People would probably spend months going over the data to see who was screwing who over the years. I approve of this ^^ /signed
Jehovah Cooper Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2008.07.08 03:45:00 - [26] Originally by: PsychoBones Originally by: Faekurias Originally by: Plutonian Should Eve ever close for good, I ask only that CCP provide a public list of the alts of every character in the game. Not identifying the player... just linking together in a group all the characters which shared that account. People would probably spend months going over the data to see who was screwing who over the years. I approve of this ^^ /signed If they had closed the server 3 weeks ago would CAOD have even noticed yet?
Vasponger Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2008.07.08 04:12:00 - [27] Edited by: Vasponger on 08/07/2008 04:12:36 i dont use capitals and punctuation either i must be their other alt
Aaron Mirrorsaver Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.07.08 04:12:00 - [28] how come all the cool caod alts have general in their name, general starscream...... im darth alt as well, look i talk like him too, dont i.
Fedaykin Naib Celestial Apocalypse The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.08 04:15:00 - [29] Your a sad, sad, little man.
Lunas Feelgood S.A.S	Posted - 2008.07.08 04:52:00 - [30] How about you go **** youself mr General Windybla Signature Bob Highcommand: We planned it all BOB: Hey its unfair Goons killed all our pets and we are now outnumbe



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