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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.09 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 09/07/2008 15:14:04 Climate Change Delusion
Hopefully a cure will be found and given to Al Gore.
The aim of politics is to keep the populace alarmed and clamorous to be saved by menacing it with imaginary hobgoblins. The urge to save humanity is a false front for the urge to rule it. |

Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar Pragmatics
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Posted - 2008.07.09 15:35:00 -
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When us coastal dwellers are all waist-deep in water, my only comfort will be tracking down the people I know IRL who believe that climate change is unfounded nonsense. I'll track them down and say "I told you so." I doubt if it will give me much pleasure, but it'll be something to do while the gangs of feral youths raid the remains of the supermarkets.
(You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion of the evidence, such as it is. And my friends are welcome to do the same to me should the climate be pretty much the same as it is now in 50 years time.)
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.09 15:37:00 -
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That's why I live on a mountain
Originally by: Calvin Firenze ****ing filter
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.09 15:38:00 -
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meh, I'm part of those half-assed guys that believe that the situation is not THAT bad, but people should do something ASAP before it's too late. ---
Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
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Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar Pragmatics
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Posted - 2008.07.09 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich That's why I live on a mountain
A slight diversion: the UK government agency dealing with flooding (Environment Agency?) has an interactive website showing flood risks on a map of your area. The FAQs crack me up. One of them goes something like this (quoting from memory):
Q. Your map shows a flood risk of up to 3m in my area, but I live in a second floor flat. Will I be affected?
A. Don't forget that you may have to leave your flat to go to work, or buy food. You will not be able to do this if the ground floor is flooded.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.09 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak meh, I'm part of those half-assed guys that believe that the situation is not THAT bad, but people should do something ASAP before it's too late.
Other people not you, it'll happen, someone will come and solve it for you, it'll work itself out...
Finally us doomsayers will have our day! I'm going to be here right up till the end saying 'told you so' repeatedly till being beaten to death by a mob weilding car keys. 
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.07.09 15:52:00 -
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Hate to break it to you coastal dwellers, but the coasts are always moving. :)
Word to the wise: NEVER live near flowing water. Water can not be contained - it's nature's best solvent. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Arvald
Caldari Aurora Acclivitous Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:00:00 -
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i dotn deny that a climate change is happening, i just think that it is happening for a different reason, natural climate change as we are way overdue for another ice age
Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw Stealthbomber combat (or as i like to call it: Just because you are paranoid don't mean there isnt a invisible demon about to eat your face)
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett Hate to break it to you coastal dwellers, but the coasts are always moving. :)
Continental Drift Whiplash 
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ademaro Imre Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 09/07/2008 15:14:04 Climate Change Delusion
Hopefully a cure will be found and given to Al Gore.
The guy they describe is just plain crazy. So he latched on to global warming. If he never heard of that it'd be meteor strikes or pesticides or government black helicopters or something.
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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Kye Kenshin
Martial.
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:07:00 -
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I feel sorry for the kid, the extremists made him feel too guilty to drink water. :(
As for climate change, of course it exists, it always has. But its nothing apocalyptic. --------------------------------------
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:10:00 -
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OK lets do a little poll cause now I'm curious. What do you guys think will happen first:
1. Global warming/cooling/climate change. The caps melt and 90% of the earths land mass turns into ocean floor. People start growing gills and wear ski boots as a fashion statement.
2. Catastrophic Volcanic Activity. Yellowstone erupts, I'm obliviated, and the worlds food supply is utterly destroyed.
3. 2012. The mysterious and invisible planet X, A brown dwarf (which is actually a sun), comes into contact with earth. If by some miracle the sun... I mean planets gravitational force doesn't tear our little planet to pieces the aliens of planet X come over and we accept them as our new overlords.
4. Nuclear holocaust. We all go live in vault 13 for a while.
5. Global warming/cooling/climate change. We move into a new ice age and prices for space heaters sky rocket.
6. The magnetic poles re-align. Chaos ensues as electronics go haywire and we see mass riots where people loot stores for their now non-functional tv's.
7. Nothing. We live the rest of our short lives in paranoia and let the next generation carry on.
Originally by: Calvin Firenze ****ing filter
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich OK lets do a little poll cause now I'm curious. What do you guys think will happen first:
1. Global warming/cooling/climate change. The caps melt and 90% of the earths land mass turns into ocean floor. People start growing gills and wear ski boots as a fashion statement.
2. Catastrophic Volcanic Activity. Yellowstone erupts, I'm obliviated, and the worlds food supply is utterly destroyed.
3. 2012. The mysterious and invisible planet X, A brown dwarf (which is actually a sun), comes into contact with earth. If by some miracle the sun... I mean planets gravitational force doesn't tear our little planet to pieces the aliens of planet X come over and we accept them as our new overlords.
4. Nuclear holocaust. We all go live in vault 13 for a while.
5. Global warming/cooling/climate change. We move into a new ice age and prices for space heaters sky rocket.
6. The magnetic poles re-align. Chaos ensues as electronics go haywire and we see mass riots where people loot stores for their now non-functional tv's.
7. Nothing. We live the rest of our short lives in paranoia and let the next generation carry on.
Oceans die from overfishing and other abuse, we suffocate shortly after.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett Hate to break it to you coastal dwellers, but the coasts are always moving. :)
Word to the wise: NEVER live near flowing water. Water can not be contained - it's nature's best solvent.
The southern part of the British Isle is sinking, while Scotland in the North is rising due to the release of pressure since the glaciers of the last ice age retreated.
Sea levels will rise for us, but why its flooding in July is a different point.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 09/07/2008 16:25:11
Originally by: Emily Spankratchet
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich That's why I live on a mountain
A slight diversion: the UK government agency dealing with flooding (Environment Agency?) has an interactive website showing flood risks on a map of your area. The FAQs crack me up. One of them goes something like this (quoting from memory):
Q. Your map shows a flood risk of up to 3m in my area, but I live in a second floor flat. Will I be affected?
A. Don't forget that you may have to leave your flat to go to work, or buy food. You will not be able to do this if the ground floor is flooded.
After watching Jaywalking, I think it may not be such a bad idea to have such instructions... 
Also they should mention that water is wet.
--- Its dead, Jim.
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:26:00 -
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So the OP finds an opinion piece by the Aussie O'Reilly about some kid with paranoid schizophrenia who took it on climate change instead of secret messages from Satan encoded in the newspaper's stock market reports.
And this is supposed to somehow support the idea that climate change is a delusion.
*yawn*
This is so pathetic its not even worth discussing.
Ooops!
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Isiskhan So the OP finds an opinion piece by the Aussie O'Reilly about some kid with paranoid schizophrenia who took it on climate change instead of secret messages from Satan encoded in the newspaper's stock market reports.
And this is supposed to somehow support the idea that climate change is a delusion.
*yawn*
This is so pathetic its not even worth discussing.
Ooops!
Classic defense mechanism at work, you go with your bad self. 
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Arvald
Caldari Aurora Acclivitous Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.09 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Arvald on 09/07/2008 16:32:24
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich OK lets do a little poll cause now I'm curious. What do you guys think will happen first:
1. Global warming/cooling/climate change. The caps melt and 90% of the earths land mass turns into ocean floor. People start growing gills and wear ski boots as a fashion statement.
2. Catastrophic Volcanic Activity. Yellowstone erupts, I'm obliviated, and the worlds food supply is utterly destroyed.
3. 2012. The mysterious and invisible planet X, A brown dwarf (which is actually a sun), comes into contact with earth. If by some miracle the sun... I mean planets gravitational force doesn't tear our little planet to pieces the aliens of planet X come over and we accept them as our new overlords.
4. Nuclear holocaust. We all go live in vault 13 for a while.
5. Global warming/cooling/climate change. We move into a new ice age and prices for space heaters sky rocket.
6. The magnetic poles re-align. Chaos ensues as electronics go haywire and we see mass riots where people loot stores for their now non-functional tv's.
7. Nothing. We live the rest of our short lives in paranoia and let the next generation carry on.
im voting for 5
Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw Stealthbomber combat (or as i like to call it: Just because you are paranoid don't mean there isnt a invisible demon about to eat your face)
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Fraszoid
Caldari ULTRA VEGA
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Posted - 2008.07.09 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich 4. Nuclear holocaust. We all go live in vault 13 for a while.
Number 4 obviously, if we are living in isolation then none of the others can affect us. Lets just hope we have enough water chips. Besides natural sunlight and air are over rated anyway.
On the topic of the crazy kid, it was bound to happen. He just has to look at the source of where the water is coming from. If its a river, its all flowing away anyway, so drinking from it isn't hurting anything as its not going to stick around like a lake would. -------------------------------------------------- Everyone is born right handed, only the great over come it.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.09 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich 7. Nothing. We live the rest of our short lives in paranoia and let the next generation carry on.
I do intend to live to 150 and laugh on the graves of all doomsayers and fearmongers. Ergo, my life will be neither "short lived" nor spent "in paranoia". But I digress -- 7.
Originally by: Roxanna Kell You are insane.
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider
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Posted - 2008.07.09 17:39:00 -
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Well to say that the climate is not changing is also wrong. The Polar Ice cap is shrinking, but at the same time the South Pole is showing an increase in the size of its area coverage with ice. This is not soley due to what man has done, but to say that man has not contributed somewhat to the situation is also short sightedness.
The main issues here is that all this cold water is flowing into the ocean decreasing salinity of the ocean from the north pole down to the south pole. There are theories about how all this cold freash water could affect the currents through the oceans, thus affecting the jet stream. This could cause an increase in the volatility of weather systems around the world. Is this bad? Who knows, but I know for a fact that winters where I live have not been like they were when I was a kid and that was many years ago. Could be a natural flux, but looking at the natural progression of the past climate changes, we are in an accelerated polar meltdown, for a fact.
Slade
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lilrascal sinq
Dirty Denizens
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Posted - 2008.07.09 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: lilrascal sinq on 09/07/2008 18:01:30
Originally by: Emily Spankratchet When us coastal dwellers are all waist-deep in water, my only comfort will be tracking down the people I know IRL who believe that climate change is unfounded nonsense. I'll track them down and say "I told you so." I doubt if it will give me much pleasure, but it'll be something to do while the gangs of feral youths raid the remains of the supermarkets.
(You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion of the evidence, such as it is. And my friends are welcome to do the same to me should the climate be pretty much the same as it is now in 50 years time.)
So are you one of the guys that cries to have his house rebuit in Florida after a hurricane comes through?
Just curious because IMO both are equaly out of our control.
Edit - I am still waiting on the acid rain I was promised in the 80s.
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Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:54:00 -
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I couldn't care any less about the whole global warming. If it's wrong, I get to laugh in everyone's faces in 20 years (but I won't, because they'll probably have new excuses why we're not all drowning by then), and if it isn't wrong, this frozen piece of crap might be a tropical resort one day and I'll get to shoot the immigrants that will no doubt be arriving here en masse for invading my property. It's a win-win!
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 09/07/2008 19:08:34
Originally by: Isiskhan So the OP finds an opinion piece by the Aussie O'Reilly about some kid with paranoid schizophrenia who took it on climate change instead of secret messages from Satan encoded in the newspaper's stock market reports.
And this is supposed to somehow support the idea that climate change is a delusion.
*yawn*
This is so pathetic its not even worth discussing.
Ooops!
So, science journals are opinion pieces now? And the Royal ChildrenĘs Hospital are mouhtpieces of O'Reilly?
You should read the actual links. Fear mongering of climate change has pushed someone into being frightened of drinking water.
World figures like Al Gore do not tell people that Satan is communicating with secret messages in stock reports. However, people like Al Gore are proclaiming the world will be sent into an irreversible tailspin into catastrophe within, according to Al Gore, less than 7 years, and 7 months. Children's websites in Australia have been telling children that they will die because of their living habits within a few years. There is definite fear mongering.
The aim of politics is to keep the populace alarmed and clamorous to be saved by menacing it with imaginary hobgoblins. The urge to save humanity is a false front for the urge to rule it. |

Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:15:00 -
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sounds like your average raving lunatic to me ...
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
2. Catastrophic Volcanic Activity. Yellowstone erupts, I'm obliviated, and the worlds food supply is utterly destroyed.
Oooh Yellowstone specifically - that one is so overdue! _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:33:00 -
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Edited by: Bish Ounen on 09/07/2008 19:35:02
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich OK lets do a little poll cause now I'm curious. What do you guys think will happen first:
1. Global warming/cooling/climate change. The caps melt and 90% of the earths land mass turns into ocean floor. People start growing gills and wear ski boots as a fashion statement.
2. Catastrophic Volcanic Activity. Yellowstone erupts, I'm obliviated, and the worlds food supply is utterly destroyed.
3. 2012. The mysterious and invisible planet X, A brown dwarf (which is actually a sun), comes into contact with earth. If by some miracle the sun... I mean planets gravitational force doesn't tear our little planet to pieces the aliens of planet X come over and we accept them as our new overlords.
4. Nuclear holocaust. We all go live in vault 13 for a while.
5. Global warming/cooling/climate change. We move into a new ice age and prices for space heaters sky rocket.
6. The magnetic poles re-align. Chaos ensues as electronics go haywire and we see mass riots where people loot stores for their now non-functional tv's.
7. Nothing. We live the rest of our short lives in paranoia and let the next generation carry on.
Pretty much choice Seven, minus the paranoia stuff.
Face it kids; Earth's climate has been yo-yoing all over the place for several BILLION years now, way longer than we puny earthlings have been around. What kind of arrogance is it that anyone thinks that we can not only ALTER our Planet's climate, but do anything at all to stop a naturally occurring climate pattern that cycles over the course of millions of years?
Our money would be far better spent looking for ways to ADAPT to any natural change that comes along, rather than this "Chicken Little" crap we have going on now. In life, as in EVE, Adapt or Die.
Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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Isiskhan
Gnostic Misanthropy
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Posted - 2008.07.09 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Isiskhan on 09/07/2008 20:09:23
Originally by: Ademaro Imre So, science journals are opinion pieces now? And the Royal ChildrenĘs Hospital are mouhtpieces of O'Reilly?
Are you really that thick, or is it one of your weird hobbies to pretend so?
It would really help if you pulled your head out of O'Reilly's ass for change and breathed in some clean air, but just in case I'll make it simple for you: the opinion piece is what you linked to, and the O'Reilly reference was regarding the author of the piece: Andrew Bolt, a conservative pundit for the Herald Sun (another of Rupert Murdoch's properties, just like Fox).
Originally by: Ademaro Imre You should read the actual links. Fear mongering of climate change has pushed someone into being frightened of drinking water.
Awww, poor kid! It's all Al Gores fault!!
Read up on paranoid schizophrenia. If that doesn't clear up things for you, seriously: breathing something else than O'Reilly's vile rectal fumes will do wonders.
Originally by: Ademaro Imre World figures like Al Gore do not tell people that Satan is communicating with secret messages in stock reports. However, people like Al Gore are proclaiming the world will be sent into an irreversible tailspin into catastrophe within, according to Al Gore, less than 7 years, and 7 months. Children's websites in Australia have been telling children that they will die because of their living habits within a few years. There is definite fear mongering.
Just like you and Mr. Andrew Bolt are fear mongering now regarding climate change discussions turning kids into raving lunatics.
Anyway, Al Gore is a politician, not a scientist. And cherry-picking on the most alarmist and exaggerated voices in an attempt to discredit the backed-up arguments the vast majority of the worldwide scientific community has presented regarding climate change, is as dishonest as the fear mongering you both are so adamant to denounce.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.09 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Isiskhan
It would really help if you pulled your head out of O'Reilly's ass for change and breathed in some clean air, but just in case I'll make it simple for you: the opinion piece is what you linked to, and the O'Reilly reference was regarding the author of the piece: Andrew Bolt, a conservative pundit for the Herald Sun (another of Rupert Murdoch's properties, just like Fox).
Oddly enough, the piece written for a medical journal by two physicians at a hospital was written for a science journal. He quoted from their article.
Originally by: Ademaro Imre You should read the actual links. Fear mongering of climate change has pushed someone into being frightened of drinking water.
Awww, poor kid! It's all Al Gores fault!!
Originally by: Isiskhan
Read up on paranoid schizophrenia. If that doesn't clear up things for you, seriously: breathing something else than O'Reilly's vile rectal fumes will do wonders.
It seems like you have an unhealthy obsession with Bill O'Reilly, who has nothing to do with the child, or the physicians. Check yourself in, maybe as those physicians treat you, they can discuss the case with you.
Originally by: Ademaro Imre World figures like Al Gore do not tell people that Satan is communicating with secret messages in stock reports. However, people like Al Gore are proclaiming the world will be sent into an irreversible tailspin into catastrophe within, according to Al Gore, less than 7 years, and 7 months. Children's websites in Australia have been telling children that they will die because of their living habits within a few years. There is definite fear mongering.
Originally by: Isiskhan
Just like you and Mr. Andrew Bolt are fear mongering now regarding climate change discussions turning kids into raving lunatics.
At least you are admitting to that, and confirming the physicians position in their published article.
Originally by: Isiskhan
Anyway, Al Gore is a politician, not a scientist. And cherry-picking on the most alarmist and exaggerated voices in an attempt to discredit the backed-up arguments the vast majority of the worldwide scientific community has presented regarding climate change, is as dishonest as the fear mongering you both are so adamant to denounce.
When was the last date that you had a glass of water?
The aim of politics is to keep the populace alarmed and clamorous to be saved by menacing it with imaginary hobgoblins. The urge to save humanity is a false front for the urge to rule it. |

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.09 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich OK lets do a little poll cause now I'm curious. What do you guys think will happen first:
1. Global warming/cooling/climate change. The caps melt and 90% of the earths land mass turns into ocean floor. People start growing gills and wear ski boots as a fashion statement.
2. Catastrophic Volcanic Activity. Yellowstone erupts, I'm obliviated, and the worlds food supply is utterly destroyed.
3. 2012. The mysterious and invisible planet X, A brown dwarf (which is actually a sun), comes into contact with earth. If by some miracle the sun... I mean planets gravitational force doesn't tear our little planet to pieces the aliens of planet X come over and we accept them as our new overlords.
4. Nuclear holocaust. We all go live in vault 13 for a while.
5. Global warming/cooling/climate change. We move into a new ice age and prices for space heaters sky rocket.
6. The magnetic poles re-align. Chaos ensues as electronics go haywire and we see mass riots where people loot stores for their now non-functional tv's.
7. Nothing. We live the rest of our short lives in paranoia and let the next generation carry on.
Undecided. Nuclear holocaust seems quite likely with the raging ******s of current politics. Climate change is a bit longer term but has roughly the sae results.
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