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Propmod
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.03.17 03:38:00 -
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I have little sympathy for high sec griefers or anyone else taking high sec seriously, bears included. All I see is people wanting easy targets that dont fight back. The griefers are just another form of carebear. |
Lord Malic
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
0
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Posted - 2012.03.17 04:10:00 -
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as the carebear wrecking machine that i am. i fully support this! CAREBEARS BEWARE... im gonna get you!!! |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
135
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Posted - 2012.03.17 04:14:00 -
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We'll take those, too. Both is good. Most of us prefer fights, but ganks are hilarious. |
Kristopher Arione
No Point of Dispute Point of Dispute
14
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Posted - 2012.03.17 05:06:00 -
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Am I the guy who got reimbursed that you mentioned? because I did get my abaddon reimbursed after I was exploited in the middle of an orca raid. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
136
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Posted - 2012.03.17 05:11:00 -
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Kristopher Arione wrote:Am I the guy who got reimbursed that you mentioned? because I did get my abaddon reimbursed after I was exploited in the middle of an orca raid.
Nah, it was my good friend rareden. |
Kristopher Arione
No Point of Dispute Point of Dispute
14
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Posted - 2012.03.17 05:14:00 -
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the guy from clearly compensating? oh btw I stole a machariel and a CNR from NOPOD. do I get a muffin? |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
136
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Posted - 2012.03.17 05:16:00 -
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Yeah, he used to be with clearly compensating. Grats on the stolen ships. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
283
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Posted - 2012.03.17 10:30:00 -
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Propmod wrote:I have little sympathy for high sec griefers or anyone else taking high sec seriously, bears included. All I see is people wanting easy targets that dont fight back. The griefers are just another form of carebear.
Fancy that: It's often the bears who are doing just that, not the big, bad "griefers."
Oh, and because player ships urp-splode more pretty than NPC-ships.
In irae, veritas. |
CatreX Nolen
The Syndicate Inc Eternal Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2012.03.17 13:18:00 -
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good thing I can start using them t2 blasters in 24h. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1325
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Posted - 2012.03.17 14:09:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:This isn't the thread for that discussion, but I will very briefly cover why I do my favorite work in highsec.
I prefer small gang warfare to huge blobs. I really like it when my individual skill counts for something. What nullsec considers a small gang is twenty dudes and it gets hotdropped by three hundred Drakes. Not really interested.
Additionally, I don't really like the common mass of people. While there are exceptional dudes in most alliances, you have to put up with the hive-mind of mouth-breathing sperglords. I don't want to do that. This dislike may be aggravated by having been in TEST. (love for my TESTies, but about 80% of you I want to choke with my bare hands. Reset TEST.)
Now dec scraping has taken all of the fights out of highsec, so we've been messing about with Wormhole space recently, but we still like to grief, and highsec is our ancestral home.
But now griefing is taking nerf after nerf. So, the thread above.
Feel a rant coming on about how suck the whole jump gate mechanic is. But perhaps the problem goes deeper? Gate blobs appear boring to participate in, but there is no effort by players to clear them, it feels like one "side" of the matter, the people comprising this "great wall of carebear" have more of a financial motivation so the bots on the other side can run un-molested.
This game cries out for some way to break down this wall. These gate to gate jump mechanics have to go. If ships could dial in warps system to system "Star Wars style", the blobs will be replaced by combat patrols and small gang engagements will happen.
That's my derailing .02.
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Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
22
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Posted - 2012.03.18 03:40:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: edited for length ...
This game cries out for some way to break down this wall. These gate to gate jump mechanics have to go. If ships could dial in warps system to system "Star Wars style", the blobs will be replaced by combat patrols and small gang engagements will happen.
That's my derailing .02.
Now that's one of the coolest ideas I've heard of lately. You should write that one up for the Features and Ideas section.
Nothing clever at this time. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1328
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Posted - 2012.03.18 07:19:00 -
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Nick Bison wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: edited for length ...
This game cries out for some way to break down this wall. These gate to gate jump mechanics have to go. If ships could dial in warps system to system "Star Wars style", the blobs will be replaced by combat patrols and small gang engagements will happen.
That's my derailing .02.
Now that's one of the coolest ideas I've heard of lately. You should write that one up for the Features and Ideas section.
Tried. Failed. The bloc that benefits from the status quo is presently too powerful.
I am hoping that the goons think it's a good idea. Seriously.
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2012.03.18 07:44:00 -
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If Herzog's suggestion were implemented,Eve would be a much more about fights rather than auto piloting through all those empty systems. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2012.03.18 23:00:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:If we can't have this game, neither can the carebears.
I am putting up all the money I can scratch together to fund a crime spree. You think it was bad when we were shoplifting Slim-Jims? Well now we're going to burn the 7-11 to the ******* ground. The Skunkworks will be flipping tables and stabbing people in broad daylight and we're inviting everyone who operates in highsec in a PvP way to join us. We're not even out for profit or our own amusement. We're out for blood and tears. We want rage quits and people punching monitors. We want each and every griefer, cutthroat, shitheel, mercenary, scammer, spy, thief and puppy-kicker to be stomping through the post-apocalyptic wasteland that used to be highsec, swinging wrecking-ball fists at anything stupid enough to get in our way. So, to make your teary sad story short, a griefer is feeling grief and anguish because he's unable to grief. And I bet it would surprise you to know there's a clinical term for this .
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Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
56
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Posted - 2012.03.18 23:39:00 -
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yawn, another hi sec grief thread. guys can't have fun doing anything else? On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á It was a sun |
Zubrette
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2012.03.19 01:34:00 -
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Too many carebears getting off on the fact that CCP is catering to baddies who only want to run missions. There has to be risk involved, even in highsec, or you're going to get bored pretty quickly.
Whether or not you want to admit it, regardless of how hard CCP marginalizes griefing, it's a legitimate way of playing this game. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1120
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Posted - 2012.03.19 13:24:00 -
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Propmod wrote:I have little sympathy for high sec griefers or anyone else taking high sec seriously, bears included. All I see is people wanting easy targets that dont fight back. The griefers are just another form of carebear. One of my earliest gang fights--and also one of my favorites--was when we engaged an enemy fleet just outside their POS shield. We got in under their POS guns, wiped all but one of their ships, and got out with no losses.
Not all of us are risk-averse. Some of us just enjoy the mechanics of highsec, where a blob of 40 ships can't ruin all the intel and maneuvering by wiping one or both smaller fleets before a trap is sprung. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Subdolus Venator
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.19 14:28:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:Highsec has been getting safer and safer. Every time one of us thinks up some clever way to visit violence upon carebears, we get nerfed. We keep thinking up more interesting stuff, but it only lasts so long before it gets nerfed.
:: long rant snipped ::
Quote:We're being pushed out of the game.
Love the tears.
The species that survives is not the strongest, but the one most responsive to change. Evolve, or die. |
StonerPhReaK
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
37
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Posted - 2012.03.19 14:34:00 -
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All i see is a bunch of text saying people whom want player versus player interaction are running out of ways to force people who do not want player versus player interaction into doin said player versus player activities. In games where pvp results in you just respawning and goin back to w/e this would be fine. But eve is diff, When stuff goes poof its gone. So it doesnt surprise me (and nor should it you) that people do not want to PVP. This is entirely different than most other games.
This is working as ccp intended. And is gettin better every day. Eventually you will have no choice but to play with people looking for the same thing as you. PVP,Explosions and destruction. It just wont be on your terms. Which im willing to bank is why your so adament on gettin the drop on hapless mission runners and the like. You know for sure that mission bears pve navy raven will not hold up to your pvp neut cane. There is no challenge. This is what your looking for. Handouts in the form of people whom unknowingly engage your ninjibis.
Im all for PVP, And enjoy it. But there is aspects of this game that are not solely based on it. I am willing to accept not everyone wants to PVP. Why is it so hard for you to accept this? <--- That was a serious question.
To all who think Eve is a strictly pvp based game, If this wer true there would be no pve aspect. Get over it!
And to the Op,
Why u no want challenge?
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Ash Stewart
The Tenori Tigers Un.Bound
3
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:24:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:This isn't the thread for that discussion, but I will very briefly cover why I do my favorite work in highsec.
I prefer small gang warfare to huge blobs. I really like it when my individual skill counts for something. What nullsec considers a small gang is twenty dudes and it gets hotdropped by three hundred Drakes. Not really interested.
Additionally, I don't really like the common mass of people. While there are exceptional dudes in most alliances, you have to put up with the hive-mind of mouth-breathing sperglords. I don't want to do that. This dislike may be aggravated by having been in TEST. (love for my TESTies, but about 80% of you I want to choke with my bare hands. Reset TEST.)
Now dec scraping has taken all of the fights out of highsec, so we've been messing about with Wormhole space recently, but we still like to grief, and highsec is our ancestral home.
But now griefing is taking nerf after nerf. So, the thread above.
You clearly have been spending too much time in high sec. There are areas in null sec where you can get decent solo fights and not worry too much about blobs!
Just get out there and find them (hint.... try Great Wildlands).
.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger............... |
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Ash Stewart
The Tenori Tigers Un.Bound
3
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:31:00 -
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Propmod wrote:I have little sympathy for high sec griefers or anyone else taking high sec seriously, bears included. All I see is people wanting easy targets that dont fight back. The griefers are just another form of carebear.
I've got nothing against griefing, it's just another way to play eve (heck.. even i do it).
Griefing and taking out haulers and miners just makes the game realistic to everyone involved; which is one reason why I love this game (high sec carebears who take exception to this are in the wrong game -- they ought to prepare for it, like in real life).
BUT, I take exception to people trying to grief new players out of the game. Do that TOO MUCH, and you lose your future pvpers.
.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger............... |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
143
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:35:00 -
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Ash Stewart wrote:
Just get out there and find them (hint.... try Great Wildlands).
It's been my experience that Great Wildlands never has anyone in it. Dozens of systems with nobody home. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:36:00 -
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WTB:Risk free pvp. |
Ash Stewart
The Tenori Tigers Un.Bound
3
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:45:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:Ash Stewart wrote:
Just get out there and find them (hint.... try Great Wildlands).
It's been my experience that Great Wildlands never has anyone in it. Dozens of systems with nobody home.
it's like that alot. At leat your blob concerns are dealt with :P
Have a bubble at one of the main entrance ways, and you'll get your targets.
.................It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight Risin' up to the challenge of our rival And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger............... |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1122
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Posted - 2012.03.19 17:54:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:WTB:Risk free pvp. Read my post from earlier today.
WTB: PVP that can't be rolled over by a roaming blob interupting a good fight.
Also WTB: Fixes to neutral RR and other such nonsense that makes highsec PVP far more stupid than it needs to be. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Korbin Dallaz
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.03.19 18:05:00 -
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omg. so many tears. so much crying. Would you like CCP to just do the ganking for you and then contract you to loot and mail a copy of the taunting in local? |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
76
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Posted - 2012.03.19 18:13:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:WTB:Risk free pvp. Read my post from earlier today. WTB: PVP that can't be rolled over by a roaming blob interupting a good fight. Also WTB: Fixes to neutral RR and other such nonsense that makes highsec PVP far more stupid than it needs to be.
I looked up your earlier posts and I still stand by what I said. While I fully agree that the content of the sandbox has to be directed by the players, you griefing players does very little to touch upon the points which you put forward. I also understand you are not totally risk-averse and this is why you should head to low/null to find fights there.
I agree with you on the fact that pvp is almost always 'a roaming blob' and tbh I really don't have any suggestions how to fix it. But what you are doing now is only going to make CCP turn up the heat even more. CCP needs its new players to stick around for a while.
But thank you for the reply. Usually it's just 'gtfo caerbaer!' , 'HTFU noobz!' , 'poast with your main,*******!' and so on. |
rareden
Privateers Privateer Alliance
6
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Posted - 2012.03.19 21:08:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:WTB:Risk free pvp. Read my post from earlier today. WTB: PVP that can't be rolled over by a roaming blob interupting a good fight. Also WTB: Fixes to neutral RR and other such nonsense that makes highsec PVP far more stupid than it needs to be.
WTB agro timer for logi and if you want to buy risk free pvp jake, go roll in some 20 man blobs killing ratters |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
138
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Posted - 2012.03.19 22:11:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:WTB:Risk free pvp. Read my post from earlier today. WTB: PVP that can't be rolled over by a roaming blob interupting a good fight. Also WTB: Fixes to neutral RR and other such nonsense that makes highsec PVP far more stupid than it needs to be. In other words, you only think it's unfair when you're on the wrong side of overwhelming forces. But you have no problems in harassing carebear ships with your PVP gank ship, because... that's a "good fight"?
Seriously, griefer tears are the most pathetic of them all. What is up with all the Skunkworks tears lately?
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Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
146
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Posted - 2012.03.20 01:02:00 -
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You seem to be confusing ganks and fights. We want both those things, but ganking mission runners is just that, ganks.
We don't confuse the two, and neither should you.
Our man Slimy Worm, for instance. Great ganker, mediocre fighter. |
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