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Cpt Pugwash
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Posted - 2004.05.22 11:07:00 -
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It is with regret that after my attempts at a diplomatic resolution I have heard no response from PA.
The deadline of Downtime Saturday 22nd May has passed and no communication has been recieved, A state of war now exists between LMM and PA
We will also be breaking off relations with Revolution and FU and removing them from our diplomatic channels, I cannot help but feel they have been using us as a pawn to gain credability for an attack on PA.
LMM does not consider this the action of allies and as such withdraw our application to join FU.
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Tbone
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Posted - 2004.05.22 11:14:00 -
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Good luck Pug. Take care also. Been a great trip with ya. -----------------------------------------------
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2004.05.22 14:16:00 -
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wow id love to hear the story behind this one  --------------------------------------------
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Notferr
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Posted - 2004.05.22 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Notferr on 22/05/2004 14:41:27 Attacks on a NAST member is an attack on all NAST members. I would recommend that you lodge your complaints with PA on their forums, if you have not done so. Get it sorted before a freakin big hammer falls on you.
Like friggn, grrrr, and stuff..
- N -
Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.05.22 15:41:00 -
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Yes I would strongly suggest a written complaint be made on the PA forums AT www.newvenal.org
PA is a member of NAST and any attack on us will bring a response from NAST.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.05.22 15:55:00 -
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NAST? o.O Reverend Necrona |

Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.05.22 15:57:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 22/05/2004 15:58:54 i thought this was a PA issue, why bring NAST(Y) in?
"We brake for nobody"
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QuantumX
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Posted - 2004.05.22 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 22/05/2004 15:58:54 i thought this was a PA issue, why bring NAST(Y) in?
Because he is saying they will attack all PA corps, thus the PA itself, which means NAST would apply i believe..
How he thinks his little corp can wage war against all pa corps i dont know.. But will be fun to see...
What his problem is I dont know, as only a few days ago he podded and pod killed an unarmed hauler in Venal...
BTW these are my views and i do not speak for the PA in anyway. ========================== I came i saw i got blown up!
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.05.22 16:48:00 -
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I seem to recall 1 corp wiping the floor with PA.
So do not over look a single corp, granted it's a hell of a thing to do, but it has been done by corps on alliances including the pa. Reverend Necrona |

Halseth
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Posted - 2004.05.22 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Pugwash It is with regret that after my attempts at a diplomatic resolution I have heard no response from PA.
The deadline of Downtime Saturday 22nd May has passed and no communication has been recieved, A state of war now exists between LMM and PA
We will also be breaking off relations with Revolution and FU and removing them from our diplomatic channels, I cannot help but feel they have been using us as a pawn to gain credability for an attack on PA.
LMM does not consider this the action of allies and as such withdraw our application to join FU.
I must admit I feel somewhat left out. It appears that a corporation that I have no knowlege of has a problem with the PA. What that problem is, I can't tell from this thread.
Cpt. Pugwash, If you want to discuss an issue you have with the PA, Lodge a formal complaint HERE.. If there has been a miscommunication where your complaint has been overlooked, I appologise. However, as clearly stated in this thread, avenues for contacting us have openly published.
Libertas MilesMilitis now have 24 hours to withdraw their pre-mature war declaration on the PA.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.05.22 17:02:00 -
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Who are Libertas MilesMilitis? ---
Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk |

Halseth
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Posted - 2004.05.22 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona I seem to recall 1 corp wiping the floor with PA.
Amazing how skewed ones perception of reality is when they believe everything posted in here. I would think the CA would understand that more than anyone. 
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Raffer Rush
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Posted - 2004.05.22 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Raffer Rush on 22/05/2004 17:11:20
Originally by: Reverend Necrona I seem to recall 1 corp wiping the floor with PA.
So do not over look a single corp, granted it's a hell of a thing to do, but it has been done by corps on alliances including the pa.
Wiping the floor might be stretching it quite alot, they made some damage and took some too.
Evolution isn't just your run in the mill corporation, they are very good, very organized and attacked PA just after it's forming when PA was getting started, so to speak.
A attack on Venal today by evol or any single corporation would be quite a different story, believe you me.
Oh, where can we find LMM corp? or are you coming to Venal to kill us?? 
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.05.22 19:08:00 -
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Cpt Sorry who are you
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.05.22 19:10:00 -
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admitedly my opinion of what on there is not first hand nor is it probably accurate. Fact remains that it was one corporation and that it caused you trouble. So i was merley pointing out not to act too confident by the fact that it's merley one corp declaring war on you.
Anyways point noted and i'll move on, let me ask... what's this NAST lark? Been away for 3 weeks :). Reverend Necrona |

Znaei
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Posted - 2004.05.22 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona admitedly my opinion of what on there is not first hand nor is it probably accurate. Fact remains that it was one corporation and that it caused you trouble. So i was merley pointing out not to act too confident by the fact that it's merley one corp declaring war on you.
Anyways point noted and i'll move on, let me ask... what's this NAST lark? Been away for 3 weeks :).
NAST stands for Northern Alliance Security Treaty. It combines all the alliances in the northern part of Eve, among other things 
clagnuts> im drunk just come back from pirates night in spain , wtf i thought it was some eve guys getting together for a drink , turned out to be a feken real pirates show , doh |

ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.05.22 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Raffer Rush A attack on Venal today by evol or any single corporation would be quite a different story, believe you me.
Is that a challenge?  Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.05.22 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Halseth
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash It is with regret that after my attempts at a diplomatic resolution I have heard no response from PA.
The deadline of Downtime Saturday 22nd May has passed and no communication has been recieved, A state of war now exists between LMM and PA
We will also be breaking off relations with Revolution and FU and removing them from our diplomatic channels, I cannot help but feel they have been using us as a pawn to gain credability for an attack on PA.
LMM does not consider this the action of allies and as such withdraw our application to join FU.
I must admit I feel somewhat left out. It appears that a corporation that I have no knowlege of has a problem with the PA. What that problem is, I can't tell from this thread.
Cpt. Pugwash, If you want to discuss an issue you have with the PA, Lodge a formal complaint HERE.. If there has been a miscommunication where your complaint has been overlooked, I appologise. However, as clearly stated in this thread, avenues for contacting us have openly published.
Libertas MilesMilitis now have 24 hours to withdraw their pre-mature war declaration on the PA.
I can't fail to notice he just did a wardeclare upon your alliance due to not responding to his request to solve this problem diplomatic, so now it should be YOU who would contact him instead of pointing him into a bureaucratic windmill. He expressed that he made several attempts to solve this problem adequate, however you guys did not and therefor he makes an official warattempt. If you so much care to prevent an war i would suggest YOU to contact him to solve it, instead of pointing him into another dead bush he allready walked into.
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Reassor
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Posted - 2004.05.22 23:56:00 -
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.05.23 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Darken Two on 23/05/2004 01:41:21
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
Originally by: Halseth
Originally by: Cpt Pugwash It is with regret that after my attempts at a diplomatic resolution I have heard no response from PA.
The deadline of Downtime Saturday 22nd May has passed and no communication has been recieved, A state of war now exists between LMM and PA
We will also be breaking off relations with Revolution and FU and removing them from our diplomatic channels, I cannot help but feel they have been using us as a pawn to gain credability for an attack on PA.
LMM does not consider this the action of allies and as such withdraw our application to join FU.
I must admit I feel somewhat left out. It appears that a corporation that I have no knowlege of has a problem with the PA. What that problem is, I can't tell from this thread.
Cpt. Pugwash, If you want to discuss an issue you have with the PA, Lodge a formal complaint HERE.. If there has been a miscommunication where your complaint has been overlooked, I appologise. However, as clearly stated in this thread, avenues for contacting us have openly published.
Libertas MilesMilitis now have 24 hours to withdraw their pre-mature war declaration on the PA.
I can't fail to notice he just did a wardeclare upon your alliance due to not responding to his request to solve this problem diplomatic, so now it should be YOU who would contact him instead of pointing him into a bureaucratic windmill. He expressed that he made several attempts to solve this problem adequate, however you guys did not and therefor he makes an official warattempt. If you so much care to prevent an war i would suggest YOU to contact him to solve it, instead of pointing him into another dead bush he allready walked into.
DREAMWORKS the PA has on many previous occasions stated that talking to random members of the alliance does not constitute a formal complaint.
The PA has also more than adequately advertised its forums and explained the procedure for lodging complaints.
To expect an entire alliance consisting of many corps to act on a complainat within microseconds or to think that a single corp can put deadlines to the PA is not within reason. We have dealt with complaints before and yes t takes time but we deal with it.
LMM did not complain on our official forums and noone has ever heard of their deadline. So as far as we are concerned no such complaint exists and any aggressive action against any of our members will be met with similarly deadly force. Let ther be no doubt on that.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.05.23 01:43:00 -
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Trinity is still the better brand, NAST is just a poor NATO rip.
Bad move there, you should have declared war on the specific corporation you had a problem with and stuck it to them, hoping they'd lose their cool, did they ever have one and in doing so making the rest of the NAST see them in a different light.
Vague and sweeping I forsee nothing good coming from this.
Convert Stations
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Laika Minirva
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Posted - 2004.05.23 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: Laika Minirva on 23/05/2004 02:40:55 NAST, C4/CA... so many alliances and treaty's being formed these days that soon it will just be empire space and.. PLAYER-RUN EMPIRE SPACE! 
Hopefully greed and boredom (mankinds 2 greatest qualities) will break some of the bigger alliances up.. 'no go zones' and warzones are just more fun, than all out peace. 
A good example of that would be Stain.So much more lively and joyfull now that SA have moved to Yulai, or Lineage2, or joined CA or where ever they went.
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Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2004.05.23 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Laika Minirva Edited by: Laika Minirva on 23/05/2004 02:40:55 NAST, C4/CA... so many alliances and treaty's being formed these days that soon it will just be empire space and.. PLAYER-RUN EMPIRE SPACE! 
Hopefully greed and boredom (mankinds 2 greatest qualities) will break some of the bigger alliances up.. 'no go zones' and warzones are just more fun, than all out peace. 
A good example of that would be Stain.So much more lively and joyfull now that SA have moved to Yulai, or Lineage2, or joined CA or where ever they went.
PLZ don't post something u know NOTHING at all about..
Stupid alt nublar..
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.05.23 02:57:00 -
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this thread CANT be more interesting then the Roleplaying PvP corps...
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Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2004.05.23 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Necrona I seem to recall 1 corp wiping the floor with PA.
So do not over look a single corp, granted it's a hell of a thing to do, but it has been done by corps on alliances including the pa.
Oc I'm so 1337 strikes again !!
go figure..
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.05.23 03:41:00 -
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Edited by: Darken Two on 23/05/2004 03:42:34
Originally by: Laika Minirva Edited by: Laika Minirva on 23/05/2004 02:40:55 NAST, C4/CA... so many alliances and treaty's being formed these days that soon it will just be empire space and.. PLAYER-RUN EMPIRE SPACE! 
Hopefully greed and boredom (mankinds 2 greatest qualities) will break some of the bigger alliances up.. 'no go zones' and warzones are just more fun, than all out peace. 
A good example of that would be Stain.So much more lively and joyfull now that SA have moved to Yulai, or Lineage2, or joined CA or where ever they went.
Oh look another member of the "I can't beat SA so, I'll declare them dead" club.
Blue Pills and horse tranquilizer is the cure.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Jack Jeckel
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Posted - 2004.05.23 03:59:00 -
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Don't know who u are but g/l.
Ask a stupid person, get a stupid answer!! |

Tbone
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Posted - 2004.05.23 07:30:00 -
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Well I am not speaking for FU, but i am speaking for Rev0l. If LMM is going to war with PA i guess then Rev0l is. I will stand beside my brothers and denounce my membership in FU.
If PA does not want this, then they will contact me and I will chat with them, if NOT it is LMM/Rev0l Vs PA war, and we will not stop.
I do not like the decision but by the ways you have treated CPT pug, i Feel PA are total asshats and should be dealt with.
END OF DISCUSSION. (Might be mispelled due to drunkeness) -----------------------------------------------
Unholy Killboard
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Shar Gath
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Posted - 2004.05.23 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tbone Well I am not speaking for FU, but i am speaking for Rev0l. If LMM is going to war with PA i guess then Rev0l is. I will stand beside my brothers and denounce my membership in FU.
If PA does not want this, then they will contact me and I will chat with them, if NOT it is LMM/Rev0l Vs PA war, and we will not stop.
I do not like the decision but by the ways you have treated CPT pug, i Feel PA are total asshats and should be dealt with.
END OF DISCUSSION. (Might be mispelled due to drunkeness)
So better denounce it right now as this is your corporation attitude while beeing a part of an alliance and other larger treaty aka NAST. -------------------
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Tbone
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Posted - 2004.05.23 08:10:00 -
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Well if i recall, it was PA that ganked someone in my corp. I joined FU to cease fire. But at same time, PA have not treated us with respect. SO if this is the feelings of PA, since i said i was not speaking on Behalf of FU, Then so be it. I just want to kill, and so happens PA or CDI are the top of the list. -----------------------------------------------
Unholy Killboard
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