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Berendas
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.07.13 16:42:00 -
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Hey all, just renewed my account with the 2 week renewal offer, and my credit card and bank acct aren't getting along w/ each other (don't ask ) but I wanna stay in EVE so I'm trying to get the ISK for a GTC. My character has about 10.5 mil SP and I was wondering if it was even feasible to do level 3's [with salvaging] for about 4-5 hours a day and get the money for a GTC.
If it IS feasible for a somewhat low SP char like me, what Gallente ship fits would you guys recommend for doing level 3's? I have Gallente cruiser lvl 5 and BC's level 3 with most support skills up moderately high. I have a Brutix already so that may or may not help me.
Sorry that I'm not being specific, but after about a year out of the loop, I'm pretty rusty, so if you have an questions regarding my skills or w/e please ask.
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.13 16:49:00 -
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Try to get into battleships and start level 4s, I don't think level 3s are going to cut it. You'll need 400m.
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Liaya
20th Legion Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.07.13 17:31:00 -
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Yea, get into a BS and run l4's easy ISK and you'll be able to get 400m in a few days.
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Bladen Kerst
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.13 17:31:00 -
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Yeah I don't advise trying to earn 400 mil for GTC doing lvl 3 missions as well. You will burn out and probably quit playing after paying those money for GTC and that would have been ironic.
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Dzajic
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Posted - 2008.07.13 17:36:00 -
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Based on my experience with drone and gun ships, it takes a lot of time,with lowish skills it will take a lot and lot of time to get those 400 mill on L4s. You should ask more experienced folks whether to salvage and loot, or speedrun for ISK and LPs.
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Berendas
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.07.13 17:44:00 -
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Thanks for the info guys, but I have a few questions.
With all the calls for a BS, I assume a Dominix? I seem to remember that it was fairly popular for running missions in, any fittings greatly appreciated. However, I don't even have Gallente BS 1 yet, and though I have good support skills, will I be good enough in a Domi to do these level 4's?
(Last question for this post ) If I'm working alone, will it be worth the time to salvage, or will my isk/hour go up if I forget salvaging and go to the next mission?
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.13 17:47:00 -
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Dominix is only good if you have good drone skills. Otherwise, try a megathron.
You'll want to salvage all blood raider, sansha, and angel missions. The other ones, I'm not so sure about.
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Elhina Novae
Amarr Destruction Reborn CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.07.13 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic Dominix is only good if you have good drone skills. Otherwise, try a megathron.
You'll want to salvage all blood raider, sansha, and angel missions. The other ones, I'm not so sure about.
There other ones you can ignore, unless you're after their loot... Any Faction which is based on the races: Amarr Minmatar Drones
Those are worth it salvaging (The drones only the BS wrecks really.) ------------ Somebody set up us the bomb |

CptEagle
Gallente State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:10:00 -
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3 month account fee is just a few hours real life work... You cant get 400M in a few hours by missioning. 
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SuiJuris
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: CptEagle 3 month account fee is just a few hours real life work... You cant get 400M in a few hours by missioning. 
If we all followed that logic everyone would get a second job to work for 8 hours on saturday buy a couple GTC's and then sell them for isk....
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Lumberjackhammer
Caldari Wildlands Heavy Technologies FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:55:00 -
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trust no one, lvl 3 missions can easily get you 400m in a short amount of time, and brutix usually does the trick, however, you will quit playing eve if you keep on running lvl 3 missions.
My advice, run them, WHILE you train the BS skill up to atleast lvl 4 (yes, dominix sucks if you got it lower then 4) and if you play hardcore enough, you can pay for a few months gametime with just a few weeks gameplay, once your in a dominix however, this changes, in a domi you can (on paper that is) enough isk per day to pay for a month, its a huge difference between lvl 3`s and 4`s.
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.13 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: SuiJuris
Originally by: CptEagle 3 month account fee is just a few hours real life work... You cant get 400M in a few hours by missioning. 
If we all followed that logic everyone would get a second job to work for 8 hours on saturday buy a couple GTC's and then sell them for isk....
Kinda just depends on your job. Money is pretty easy to earn in EVE anyways though, and so I haven't seen any need to buy GTC's.
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Arestane
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Posted - 2008.07.13 22:09:00 -
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Get 2 accounts 
I tank with my Mael, kill with Raven. Most missions with salvaging take 30-40 minutes as I salvage with a Hurricane and a Drake. With these setup, I bring in 100+ mil usually in less than 3 hours.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.07.14 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Arestane Get 2 accounts 
I tank with my Mael, kill with Raven. Most missions with salvaging take 30-40 minutes as I salvage with a Hurricane and a Drake. With these setup, I bring in 100+ mil usually in less than 3 hours.
I'm actually pretty tempted to create an alt - I've played for two years without one. Now that I can earn money by sleeping through missions I could actually pay for the second account in ISK - not a bad proposition. I'd probably also dupe the only friend who ever played Eve and liked it into using it while I train it for my grand scheme of "doing all those things I can't be bothered to do".
I personally earn about 25 - 40 million isk/hour running missions (Angel's Extravangaza is phenominal - 20 million in cash and about the same in salvage, too bad it's the LEAST common mission for me to pull). If the going rates for GTC's are to be believed it would only take a few hours a month to pay for the account.
On level 3's I'd probably kill myself long before grinding out 400 million isk. I usually net around 1 million per mission there (granted in my Drake these days I can run those missions in mere minutes it seems). But since I hate missioning, the fact I'd be running hundreds of them would make me hate Eve in general.
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Mire Stoude
Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.07.14 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic Dominix is only good if you have good drone skills. Otherwise, try a megathron.
You'll want to salvage all blood raider, sansha, and angel missions. The other ones, I'm not so sure about.
Make sure you check the BS wrecks for loot. T1 (not named) Large guns, mwd, ab and plates (maybe more) all usually drop and after a few hours of running missions you can usually make 10-20m extra just off those. As far as named objects, take the best named and that's about it.
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.14 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Arestane Get 2 accounts 
I tank with my Mael, kill with Raven. Most missions with salvaging take 30-40 minutes as I salvage with a Hurricane and a Drake. With these setup, I bring in 100+ mil usually in less than 3 hours.
I'm actually pretty tempted to create an alt - I've played for two years without one. Now that I can earn money by sleeping through missions I could actually pay for the second account in ISK - not a bad proposition. I'd probably also dupe the only friend who ever played Eve and liked it into using it while I train it for my grand scheme of "doing all those things I can't be bothered to do".
I personally earn about 25 - 40 million isk/hour running missions (Angel's Extravangaza is phenominal - 20 million in cash and about the same in salvage, too bad it's the LEAST common mission for me to pull). If the going rates for GTC's are to be believed it would only take a few hours a month to pay for the account.
On level 3's I'd probably kill myself long before grinding out 400 million isk. I usually net around 1 million per mission there (granted in my Drake these days I can run those missions in mere minutes it seems). But since I hate missioning, the fact I'd be running hundreds of them would make me hate Eve in general.
Personally, my attention span is too short for me to only play a single account in a mission. When I first started out and could only fly a drake, the game honestly drove me a little nuts because all I did was turn my missiles on and wait for things to die (slowly). I enjoyed moving up to a Raven in part because having a booster required me to at least pay attention a little bit in missions (ironic because these days I run a permaboost setup ), and level 4's, especially with low sp, were fun to run. These days I just plow through them, but I remember that they were a lot of fun when I was a little bit worried about whether I could actually complete the mission in one piece or not, haha. I found though that playing a second account actually brings the pace of the game up to a speed that I can tolerate (and occasionally I have a third logged in for checking trades/chatting on a second monitor ). It also speeds up your missions quite a bit, to the point where any 'challenge' you might face there is nonexistant, haha. In general, I'd say go for it. The pace of this game is way too slow (at least for me) when you're only controlling a single account, and overall I find it's much more suited to playing two characters at once.
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.07.14 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: CptEagle 3 month account fee is just a few hours real life work... You cant get 400M in a few hours by missioning. 
Wrong- AE farmed for a week on a level 4. That is 2 hours per day for seven days typically 300 million + & I get to do other missions in between so yes it really is possible accepted that you might not immediately get a farmable mission. I have had AE twice in the last week from 2 agents so I don't think it is that rare to get this mission. I made 400 million last week from missions alone excluding the rigs I'm going to build & sell-so go for it-get a Domi & go isk mad!
The show stopper at present might be that your reps need to be high enough for a good level 4 agent as you probably need a rep of 7+ for a really good agent but you can work toward it as I & everybody else did. Good luck to the OP.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.14 15:24:00 -
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Speed-running L3s in a Drake used to net me around 10 mil/hour in bounties and after LP conversion. So, yeah, quite possible.
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The mineral/moonstuff balance || *THE* nanofix
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Cogswin Iannyen
Caldari Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.07.14 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Berendas Hey all, just renewed my account with the 2 week renewal offer, and my credit card and bank acct aren't getting along w/ each other (don't ask ) but I wanna stay in EVE so I'm trying to get the ISK for a GTC. My character has about 10.5 mil SP and I was wondering if it was even feasible to do level 3's [with salvaging] for about 4-5 hours a day and get the money for a GTC.
If it IS feasible for a somewhat low SP char like me, what Gallente ship fits would you guys recommend for doing level 3's? I have Gallente cruiser lvl 5 and BC's level 3 with most support skills up moderately high. I have a Brutix already so that may or may not help me.
Sorry that I'm not being specific, but after about a year out of the loop, I'm pretty rusty, so if you have an questions regarding my skills or w/e please ask.
... or get a job mowing a neighbor's lawn once a month, spend less than 4 hours doing that, and have enough money for 2-3 months of GTC?
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Vela Velorum
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.14 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: Vela Velorum on 14/07/2008 16:12:55
Originally by: Akita T Speed-running L3s in a Drake used to net me around 10 mil/hour in bounties and after LP conversion. So, yeah, quite possible.
just curious if anyone can help me out here: what is the best way to turn LP's into cash? is it better to save them up if you can afford it?
edit:spelling
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.15 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Vela Velorum just curious if anyone can help me out here: what is the best way to turn LP's into cash? is it better to save them up if you can afford it?
Doesn't really matter, as long as you get a decent LP conversion rate... most high-ticket items have lousy LP conversion rates. You really have to look at each item, how much does it cost you (LP, ISK, other items) and for how much you can sell it for (some contracts-only items usually have decent LP conversion rates, but they can take a while to sell)... just make sure you compute the amount of ISK you get in the end for your LPs : (ISK sell cost - ISK in taxes - ISK asked in LP shop - ISK cost of items asked in LP shop) / LP asked in LP shop If you end up with more than 1000 ISK per LP, it's decent. If not, try to find something else.
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The mineral/moonstuff balance || *THE* nanofix
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Tashi Neruu
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Posted - 2008.07.15 01:38:00 -
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I just started doing level 4's in my hyperion but the thing floats around like a slow moving turd, whats a quicker way OTHER than using a Caldari missile ship.
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.15 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tashi Neruu I just started doing level 4's in my hyperion but the thing floats around like a slow moving turd, whats a quicker way OTHER than using a Caldari missile ship.
The speed of the ship isn't as important as how quickly you can kill the enemy ships for 95% of missions. If your gunnery skills are in good shape, Hyperion could work, though I'd look at Mega too. If you're low SP, dominix wins in the Gallente line-up hands down.
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Berendas
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.07.15 03:33:00 -
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Well it seems Domi is the popular opinion, but there is a big difference in my Gunnery and Drone SP's so I may have to go with the Mega; 2.1m in Gunnery and 587k in Drones But, if the Domi still (somehow) is better with that skill gap please by all means correct me.
Also...whats this with converting LP? 
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.15 04:25:00 -
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Originally by: Berendas Well it seems Domi is the popular opinion, but there is a big difference in my Gunnery and Drone SP's so I may have to go with the Mega; 2.1m in Gunnery and 587k in Drones But, if the Domi still (somehow) is better with that skill gap please by all means correct me.
Also...whats this with converting LP? 
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Converting LP simply means buying items from the LP shop and selling them on market/contract for ISK. Some items give a better ISK/LP ratio than others. As far as mega/domi, it's pretty tough IMO to beat a Domi as a mission boat as gallente. It can make use of your gunnery skills, but also can field a respectable tank and nice gank at range with sentry's.
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r0b0to
The Aftermath.
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Posted - 2008.07.15 07:14:00 -
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Do lvl 4's, sell caldari navy antimatter :) ----------- D: |

Feng Schui
Minmatar Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.07.15 08:38:00 -
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well, this is a loaded question to be honest.
On one hand, yes, if you can do level 4's (in a faction CNR, not necessarily deadpsace fitted), then yea, you can pay your account via mission running.
however, once you get more involved in the game, like pvp'ing and the industrial side, then; it is no longer "worth" it really. It used to be before the GTC change.
I used to be able to mission ***** for a month, build up the funds for buying and researching bpo's, pvp, and a 90d GTC. After about 90 days, my funds would start to diminish, and I would grind again for a month.
Now, I'm basically needing to mission ***** for a month, every other month. So.. no, not worth it to me anymore tbh.
Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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Yo Mommy
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.07.15 10:59:00 -
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I'm accually gonna buy an alt soon. Been playing 1.5 yrs w only one char and I'm getting frustrated of always being so low on cash (pvp:ing alt the time w my main). Gonna use the new alt then to run missions afk in a Domi as I do fun shit on the main. That should get me enought to pay for the alt in GTCs plus get new ships n stuff for the main.
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Epidemis
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Posted - 2008.07.15 11:07:00 -
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Get a loan. Start an small IPO for 400m in the market discussion and I'm sure someone would have mercy on you.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.07.15 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 15/07/2008 11:20:17
Originally by: Boz Well The pace of this game is way too slow (at least for me) when you're only controlling a single account, and overall I find it's much more suited to playing two characters at once.
Now that I agree with. Depending on mission and ships I use, sometimes forums and some tv show somehow find enough room to almost keep an eye on everything. Doesn't work for speedrunning though.
btw, this thread is in the wrong forum section. Why?
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