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Laryk	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:28:00 - [31] Hey. back off this guy. I agree, If the devs and admins of these major companies were employed by some of the employers I have had, they would be fired. As a network admin, I held a 99% uptime on my webservers that clients PAID for. This was 99% over a 4 year stretch. You know why our network went down long enough to drop it to 99% and not higher? Because of 9/11. When main systems of our 3 ISPs we used all went down because we are so damn close to NY, and they relied on routers and servers in the city that week, I lost my network activity for 1 day. Thats a hellova lot better than CCP or Blizzards horrendous 75-80% uptime rates. So, those of you who walk around with your heads shoved up your arse, should lay off this guy, and stop bashing him. He brings up valid points. Sitting around and defending the company by saying that the servers work sometimes for some people is unnacceptable.
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:30:00 - [32] Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 13/07/2008 20:30:49 Jita + Sunday US Primetime = Insta Fail. As for blizzard, imagine this if you will: 1000 or so players on the square in front of the Ironforge Auction House, and trust me, whatever server that is on will crash within seconds of that happening. Probably staying down for a couple of hours too. That is basically what Jita is at this time of day on a sunday. Do not log out there, ever, especially in the weekend.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:31:00 - [33] Originally by: BuyMy**z Then maybe CCP should make it so that it doesnt allow more than a certain numbering of players in one system at a time, and people who are already there get automatically moved out to a neighboring system. Not being able to log on at all is **ing ***ed. Yes, they should implement a system which would create more* work for and more load on the sever in order to reduce lag. Why didn't they think of that? Originally by: Laryk As a network admin, I held a 99% uptime on my webservers that clients PAID for. We don't pay for 99% uptime. Maybe they could manage it if we did. - DesuSigs
Laryk	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:31:00 - [34] Originally by: Apoctasy SIMPLE SOLUTION: Don't go to Jita I have a better idea.... Just pay the monthly fee, and dont try and login at all. Then you wont get dissapointed. /FAIL
Laryk	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Laryk As a network admin, I held a 99% uptime on my webservers that clients PAID for. We don't pay for 99% uptime. Maybe they could manage it if we did. Hey, I have a car for sale. It works some of the time, but will not drive all the time, when you want it. Wanna buy it?
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:35:00 - [36] Originally by: Laryk Originally by: Apoctasy SIMPLE SOLUTION: Don't go to Jita I have a better idea.... Just pay the monthly fee, and dont try and login at all. Then you wont get dissapointed. /FAIL This is said every sunday. DO NOT ENTER OR LOG OFF IN JITA. This is a problem CCP can never fix because as soon as they do even more will go into jita untill it lags again.
Dante024781	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:35:00 - [37] Originally by: Laryk Hey. back off this guy. I agree, If the devs and admins of these major companies were employed by some of the employers I have had, they would be fired. As a network admin, I held a 99% uptime on my webservers that clients PAID for. This was 99% over a 4 year stretch. You know why our network went down long enough to drop it to 99% and not higher? Because of 9/11. When main systems of our 3 ISPs we used all went down because we are so damn close to NY, and they relied on routers and servers in the city that week, I lost my network activity for 1 day. Thats a hellova lot better than CCP or Blizzards horrendous 75-80% uptime rates. So, those of you who walk around with your heads shoved up your arse, should lay off this guy, and stop bashing him. He brings up valid points. Sitting around and defending the company by saying that the servers work sometimes for some people is unnacceptable. +1
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:36:00 - [38] Originally by: Laryk Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Laryk As a network admin, I held a 99% uptime on my webservers that clients PAID for. We don't pay for 99% uptime. Maybe they could manage it if we did. Hey, I have a car for sale. It works some of the time, but will not drive all the time, when you want it. Wanna buy it? Your claim of being a network admin was doubtful to begin with, but making such an idiotic comparison proves conclusively you don't have a clue what you are talking about. - DesuSigs
Triffa	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:37:00 - [39] Originally by: BuyMy**z Originally by: Gone'Postal HAHAHHAHAHA Just another chickin shit alt post. CCP fanboi spotted. Seriously, CCP is so epic fail its not even funny. If you believed what you just typed, you fail even more for playing the game. posted with alt because that is cool
Mr Friendly	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:37:00 - [40] Originally by: Laryk Hey. back off this guy. I agree, If the devs and admins of these major companies were employed by some of the employers I have had, they would be fired. As a network admin, I held a 99% uptime on my webservers that clients PAID for. This was 99% over a 4 year stretch. You know why our network went down long enough to drop it to 99% and not higher? Because of 9/11. When main systems of our 3 ISPs we used all went down because we are so damn close to NY, and they relied on routers and servers in the city that week, I lost my network activity for 1 day. Thats a hellova lot better than CCP or Blizzards horrendous 75-80% uptime rates. So, those of you who walk around with your heads shoved up your arse, should lay off this guy, and stop bashing him. He brings up valid points. Sitting around and defending the company by saying that the servers work sometimes for some people is unnacceptable. lol MMOs are a weee bit more demanding than smaller businesses and far less mission-critical than large, expensive servers (ie the NY stock exchange). Hence the problems with busy games. Are you willing to pay triple (or more lol) per month for the stability demanded by critical servers? Assuming it's even possible with MMOs, I'm not willing to front the cash tbh. I doubt many others are as well. Lag and occasional server issues come along with MMOs. Don't like it? Too bad. It's an endemic and likely insoluble problem. Feel free to create your own 'perfect' system. You'll make a mint if you can...
BuyMyShizz	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:37:00 - [41] I'm glad to see Laryk 'gets it'. All the rest of you have lived with this shitty service for so long that you've become accustomed to it. That doesn't make it right.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:39:00 - [42] Originally by: BuyMy**z I'm glad to see Laryk 'gets it'. All the rest of you have lived with this shitty service for so long that you've become accustomed to it. That doesn't make it right. You clearly have not played Star wars galaxies, that game will lag with 40 people in one place
justsometrader	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:39:00 - [43] Edited by: justsometrader on 13/07/2008 20:40:15 Originally by: Laryk Hey. back off this guy. I agree, If the devs and admins of these major companies were employed by some of the employers I have had, they would be fired. As a network admin, I held a 99% uptime on my webservers that clients PAID for. This was 99% over a 4 year stretch. You know why our network went down long enough to drop it to 99% and not higher? Because of 9/11. When main systems of our 3 ISPs we used all went down because we are so damn close to NY, and they relied on routers and servers in the city that week, I lost my network activity for 1 day. Thats a hellova lot better than CCP or Blizzards horrendous 75-80% uptime rates. So, those of you who walk around with your heads shoved up your arse, should lay off this guy, and stop bashing him. He brings up valid points. Sitting around and defending the company by saying that the servers work sometimes for some people is unnacceptable. as far as I know Tranq is one of the most powerfull servers there are (at least on THIS planet) and still people are managing to bring down certain parts, by just flooding a certain node (Jita). So what we encounter here is more a techncial limitation ( and THAT is not CCP¦s fault, they did not build the server, nor is it their job) as a administrative one.
Karentaki Gallente The Devils Brigade The Threshold	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:40:00 - [44] Originally by: Laryk Originally by: Laryk As a network admin, I held a 99% uptime on my webservers that clients PAID for. We don't pay for 99% uptime. Maybe they could manage it if we did. Hey, I have a car for sale. It works some of the time, but will not drive all the time, when you want it. Wanna buy it? Nobody is making you pay for your account - If you are unhappy with the service provided by CCP you can always quit and go back to WOW However, now you are just reading my signature... Or are you... ========= Sporks FTW
Laryk	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:40:00 - [45] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Laryk Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Laryk As a network admin, I held a 99% uptime on my webservers that clients PAID for. We don't pay for 99% uptime. Maybe they could manage it if we did. Hey, I have a car for sale. It works some of the time, but will not drive all the time, when you want it. Wanna buy it? Your claim of being a network admin was doubtful to begin with, but making such an idiotic comparison proves conclusively you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Oh yes, because I could come to the aid of someone you disagree with, and pigeon hole your stupid reasoning for disagreeing with him, definitely proves that I cannot be intelligent enough to maintain a network. Your logic amuses me, and the length of your post boggles my mind. The fact that your brain has the capacity to breath and type at the same time is amazing. I purely thought you couldnt handle such complex actions, because I think your an idiot on these forums.... ^^See where your logic is again flawed. I don't truly think these things are true about you, but if I made assumptions as you do, I might assume what I had typed is true.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:41:00 - [46] Originally by: BuyMy**z I'm glad to see Laryk 'gets it'. All the rest of you have lived with this shitty service for so long that you've become accustomed to it. That doesn't make it right. Laryk's alt? - DesuSigs
Farrqua Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:42:00 - [47] Originally by: Laryk Originally by: Laryk As a network admin, I held a 99% uptime on my webservers that clients PAID for. We don't pay for 99% uptime. Maybe they could manage it if we did. Hey, I have a car for sale. It works some of the time, but will not drive all the time, when you want it. Wanna buy it? Hey if you don't like it then leave. Otherwise deal with it. If you continualy resub and still ***** then you are just stupid. The game is what it is, and I have not seen one game out there that even comes close, that is worth a crap.
Thorindor	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:42:00 - [48] Originally by: BuyMy**z I've been trying to log on for over 30 minutes now, and I keep getting stuck at "entering game as" This is unacceptable!!! I pay GOOD MONEY to be able to play this game when I choose to do so! Now I can't, so I DEMAND a refund! I am unable to play the game that I pay a monthly fee to play. If I cannot do so I DESERVE compensation!!! CCP is a terrible company that has no business running a game as intricate as this. If they cannot handle the game that they have created, maybe they should sell the game to a decent company, such as Blizzard. lmao, you've never played wow. The hours and sometimes days I couldn't log on because my server crashed or 700 ppl were in line to log in before me. Compared to most EVEs not bad in terms of often the servers down and or you can't log in. You just had a skill finnish and you've got EVE fever because you can't change to the next one.
Xercies Ravere	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:42:00 - [49] Yes its bad, but what will CCP do? Increase the numbers that it doesn't lag to..more people will go in jita creating more lag. Also your idea about not jumping into a space that has too many ships in is a good idea but people would be annoyed because jita is the trade hub of the world. and people want to go in there for money reasons. And if you log off in jita either petition your ass out of there, or wait until monday +1 minute after the downtime. How did it go so wrong.
Marconus Orion Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:44:00 - [50] I have not gotten into forum whorin until the recent months. Is there ALWAYS a thread complaining about Jita lag every sunday?
Laryk	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:45:00 - [51] Originally by: justsometrader Edited by: justsometrader on 13/07/2008 20:40:15 as far as I know Tranq is one of the most powerfull servers there are (at least on THIS planet) and still people are managing to bring down certain parts, by just flooding a certain node (Jita). So what we encounter here is more a techncial limitation ( and THAT is not CCP¦s fault, they did not build the server, nor is it their job) as a administrative one. But, being paid to be the people who administer and maintain the servers, it is their job and duty to make sure that there is safe guards to stop this from happening. Customers pay for a service, and they are not fulfilling it for certain people. Do I honestly care about Jita? NO. But where I come from, people are allowed to speak their minds, and have original free ideas. I was merely coming to the defense, of this poor defenseless new player, who was attempting to speak his mind.
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:46:00 - [52] Originally by: Marconus Orion I have not gotten into forum whorin until the recent months. Is there ALWAYS a thread complaining about Jita lag every sunday? Not always, but surprisingly often, yes. Despite most people knowing what a tarpit Jita becomes during the weekend.
Zinras Caldari Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:46:00 - [53] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: BuyMy**z I'm glad to see Laryk 'gets it'. All the rest of you have lived with this shitty service for so long that you've become accustomed to it. That doesn't make it right. Laryk's alt? Probably. Laryk and his alt/best friend may contract their stuff to me if the service sucks so much it's unplayable. Because I'm sure CCP gets the message of your displeasure by you continuously purchasing their service over and over again Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal Originally by: Jenny Spitfire That si a fact comming out from my bran.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:48:00 - [54] Originally by: Laryk Do I honestly care about Jita? NO. But where I come from, people are allowed to speak their minds, and have original free ideas. I was merely coming to the defense, of this poor defenseless new player, who was attempting to speak his mind. OP was ranting, and based his rant on incorrect assumptions at that. - DesuSigs
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Souls of Vengeance	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:49:00 - [55] Edited by: DubanFP on 13/07/2008 20:51:25 Originally by: Laryk Hey. back off this guy. I agree, If the devs and admins of these major companies were employed by some of the employers I have had, they would be fired. As a network admin, I held a 99% uptime on my webservers that clients PAID for. This was 99% over a 4 year stretch. You know why our network went down long enough to drop it to 99% and not higher? Because of 9/11. When main systems of our 3 ISPs we used all went down because we are so damn close to NY, and they relied on routers and servers in the city that week, I lost my network activity for 1 day. Thats a hellova lot better than CCP or Blizzards horrendous 75-80% uptime rates. So, those of you who walk around with your heads shoved up your arse, should lay off this guy, and stop bashing him. He brings up valid points. Sitting around and defending the company by saying that the servers work sometimes for some people is unnacceptable. I'm going to call shenanigans. Anybody who runs a REAL network "not a router with 2 computers" would have more respect for the fact that CCP runs a network that's about a billion times larger and more powerful then most of even the largest companies. _______________ CCP Atropos > I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
BuyMyShizz	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:51:00 - [56] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Laryk Do I honestly care about Jita? NO. But where I come from, people are allowed to speak their minds, and have original free ideas. I was merely coming to the defense, of this poor defenseless new player, who was attempting to speak his mind. OP was ranting, and based his rant on incorrect assumptions at that. Yes, if being ****ed off about total garbage service can be classified as a 'rant', then sure.
Magmain Caldari Domini Umbrus Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:51:00 - [57] Originally by: BuyMy**z I've been trying to log on for over 30 minutes now, and I keep getting stuck at "entering game as" This is unacceptable!!! I pay GOOD MONEY to be able to play this game when I choose to do so! Now I can't, so I DEMAND a refund! I am unable to play the game that I pay a monthly fee to play. If I cannot do so I DESERVE compensation!!! CCP is a terrible company that has no business running a game as intricate as this. If they cannot handle the game that they have created, maybe they should sell the game to a decent company, such as Blizzard. Hah! I can log on in 3 seconds ^,^
justsometrader	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:52:00 - [58] Originally by: Laryk Originally by: justsometrader Edited by: justsometrader on 13/07/2008 20:40:15 as far as I know Tranq is one of the most powerfull servers there are (at least on THIS planet) and still people are managing to bring down certain parts, by just flooding a certain node (Jita). So what we encounter here is more a techncial limitation ( and THAT is not CCP¦s fault, they did not build the server, nor is it their job) as a administrative one. But, being paid to be the people who administer and maintain the servers, it is their job and duty to make sure that there is safe guards to stop this from happening. Customers pay for a service, and they are not fulfilling it for certain people. Do I honestly care about Jita? NO. But where I come from, people are allowed to speak their minds, and have original free ideas. I was merely coming to the defense, of this poor defenseless new player, who was attempting to speak his mind. # I get you point, BUT the only way to achieve this would be a limitation of pilots, that are allowed in a system at a time. This would upset a lot of people aswell, and I guess more than the actual lag situation upsets them. TAlking about the admins having to keep the server running...if you hit the technical border, what are you supposed to do? I mean an engineer cant make you old car go 500 miles an hour, only because you tell him its his job. Thats basically what happens in Jita, the server hits its capacity limit and since there are no better systems out there, there is NOTHING (except the already mentioned pilot limitation) what the admins can do about it
Victor Valka Caldari Kissaki Corporation	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:53:00 - [59] Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 13/07/2008 20:15:56 Originally by: BuyMy**z This is unacceptable!!! I pay GOOD MONEY to be able to play this game when I choose to do so! OBJECTION! WIN was had by all. Good times! Originally by: Roxanna Kell You are insane.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.07.13 20:54:00 - [60] Originally by: BuyMy**z Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Laryk Do I honestly care about Jita? NO. But where I come from, people are allowed to speak their minds, and have original free ideas. I was merely coming to the defense, of this poor defenseless new player, who was attempting to speak his mind. OP was ranting, and based his rant on incorrect assumptions at that. Yes, if being **ed off about total garbage service can be classified as a 'rant', then sure. Just being **ed off is merely an emotional state. Posting a baseless aggravated complaint on the forum is a rant. - DesuSigs

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