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Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
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Posted - 2008.07.16 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tamia Clant Asking to get your employment history cleared defeats the purpose of having an employment history.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:08:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Napro
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Napro
Originally by: Donna Heywood Employment histories will never be cleared, helps to see what prospective members to your corp have been up too.
Who needs corp hoppers.
Who needs to see:
Perkone from 2008.07.12 14:39 to 2008.07.15 05:32 State Protectorate from 2008.07.08 12:43 to 2008.07.12 14:39 Perkone from 2008.07.08 08:20 to 2008.07.08 12:43 State Protectorate from 2008.07.04 07:42 to 2008.07.08 08:20 Perkone from 2008.06.24 19:39 to 2008.06.24 19:40 State Protectorate from 2008.06.18 10:38 to 2008.06.24 19:39 Perkone from 2008.06.18 10:37 to 2008.06.18 10:38
I do, means you're a turncoat, a quitter, a pansy. Should I go on?
Because I dont face 20 ship gatecamps in an badger II? Well Sir, what you call quitting, I call common sense.
Then employment history should show that when push comes to shove you jump ship.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:13:00 -
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make a new corp eveyday and then immediatly resign.
Maybe after a hundred or so corps it will stop recording it
SKUNK
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Spurty
Caldari The Pikey Rebellion II
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Napro I want this. What are the skill reqs for software engineering
Ability to eat pizza and wash it down with coffee and bash away at keys. Nice Ponny tail would work too if this was the 90s -- A guy walks into the psychiatrist wearing only clingfilm for shorts. The shrink says, "Well, I can clearly see you're nuts." |

Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Napro Who needs to see:
Perkone from 2008.07.12 14:39 to 2008.07.15 05:32 State Protectorate from 2008.07.08 12:43 to 2008.07.12 14:39 Perkone from 2008.07.08 08:20 to 2008.07.08 12:43 State Protectorate from 2008.07.04 07:42 to 2008.07.08 08:20 Perkone from 2008.06.24 19:39 to 2008.06.24 19:40 State Protectorate from 2008.06.18 10:38 to 2008.06.24 19:39 Perkone from 2008.06.18 10:37 to 2008.06.18 10:38
Were I your prospective CEO, I would. It's seven lines that tell me that you're flighty, unaware of the mechanisms of joining a corporation, and incapable of actually maki ng a decision. That's incredibly useful information.
Originally by: Napro *sigh*
Perkone is an NPC corp Einstein. When you quit the State Protectorate, you AUTOMATICALLY get pushed into an NPC Corp.
Jesus, where is CCP advertising these days? NASCAR weekly?
Or you could quit it by joining a real corp, instead of just dropping corp mindlessly. It's a pet peeve of mine when players spend two hours in a NPC corp between PC corps - look before you leap, people.
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon no perkone isnt ann npc corp The only npc corps r the corps u start in, noob
Terrible grammar and completely wrong? Must be Eve General! Remind me again why I keep popping my head in here? ------------------ Fix the forums! |

Roguehalo
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:18:00 -
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Sometimes a post comes along and it completely defeats me.
This is such a time 
I mean why would you even CARE about what your employment record shows.
It's merely a historical record of what you have done. Nothing more nothing less.
George Orwell 1984 anyone?
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Roguehalo Sometimes a post comes along and it completely defeats me.
This is such a time 
I mean why would you even CARE about what your employment record shows.
It's merely a historical record of what you have done. Nothing more nothing less.
George Orwell 1984 anyone?
Then again any repeated bashing you may or may not recieve for having been a member of the enemy is merely payback. I'm sure you won't care then either.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Spurty
Caldari The Pikey Rebellion II
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:26:00 -
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only time employment record being wiped makes sense is through character sale. Can't actually see any downside to this. More money for CCP and less dead weight for the new owner. -- A guy walks into the psychiatrist wearing only clingfilm for shorts. The shrink says, "Well, I can clearly see you're nuts." |

Roguehalo
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Roguehalo Sometimes a post comes along and it completely defeats me.
This is such a time 
I mean why would you even CARE about what your employment record shows.
It's merely a historical record of what you have done. Nothing more nothing less.
George Orwell 1984 anyone?
Then again any repeated bashing you may or may not recieve for having been a member of the enemy is merely payback. I'm sure you won't care then either.
Are you seriously suggesting that you should be able to "doctor" your employment record to avoid being bashed?
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Roguehalo
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Roguehalo Sometimes a post comes along and it completely defeats me.
This is such a time 
I mean why would you even CARE about what your employment record shows.
It's merely a historical record of what you have done. Nothing more nothing less.
George Orwell 1984 anyone?
Then again any repeated bashing you may or may not recieve for having been a member of the enemy is merely payback. I'm sure you won't care then either.
Are you seriously suggesting that you should be able to "doctor" your employment record to avoid being bashed?
Did any of my previous post suggest this? Yours implied that it didn't matter what you had done in the past.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Mistress Servelan
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Napro
Originally by: Serenity Steele You need to delete your character and start a new one. Depending on how developed your character is both in social reputation and skill points, this could be anywhere from mildly to extremely painful.
It's so awesome that we have such helpful participants of the CSM to guide us along the Eve Universe.
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Nexus Kinnon
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Nexus Kinnon on 16/07/2008 01:30:41
Originally by: Spurty only time employment record being wiped makes sense is through character sale. Can't actually see any downside to this. More money for CCP and less dead weight for the new owner.
This is wide open to exploitation, terrible idea.
edit; Herschel, I trolled you bro 
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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.16 01:37:00 -
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Quote:
Then employment history should show that when push comes to shove you jump ship.
This.
It shows a helluva lot to CEOs, and it even shows a lot to members of your militia. I don't particularly want to get settled down with you raiding in the middle of gallente space regularly if you're just going to jump out in a week and have to fly all the way back to Caldari space to rejoin and then come back down again. That's just an unnecessary pain for myself. ---
Originally by: CCP Mitnal I went to the forums for special powers and all I got was a dancing padlock and a banhammer.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Napro
Originally by: Serenity Steele You need to delete your character and start a new one. Depending on how developed your character is both in social reputation and skill points, this could be anywhere from mildly to extremely painful.
It's so awesome that we have such helpful participants of the CSM to guide us along the Eve Universe.
yay no consequences
lets give everyone max skill while were at it
and free titans
yay
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:13:00 -
[45]
REQUEST DENIED
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon Herschel, I trolled you bro 
Hmm...so you did. I don't look at names much, so I assumed it was a really bad first post, not a mocking second post. I'm still not sure exactly what your point was, but you at least seem to have had one. ------------------ Fix the forums! |

Napro
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:20:00 -
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Edited by: Napro on 16/07/2008 02:20:53
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Or you could quit it by joining a real corp, instead of just dropping corp mindlessly. It's a pet peeve of mine when players spend two hours in a NPC corp between PC corps - look before you leap, people.
Wow.... Let me get this straight. You think I should: 1) Quit FW by signing up with a real corp. 2) Haul my stuff around and run a few missions. 3) Attempt to quit the corp to return to FW later in the day. 4) Wait 24 hours for roles to be removed 5) Reenlist with the Militia
as Opposed to 1) Click the "Retire" Button
can I ask....... why?
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Naval Protection Corp Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:21:00 -
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Eve ain't easy?
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Napro Edited by: Napro on 16/07/2008 02:20:53
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Or you could quit it by joining a real corp, instead of just dropping corp mindlessly. It's a pet peeve of mine when players spend two hours in a NPC corp between PC corps - look before you leap, people.
Wow.... Let me get this straight. You think I should: 1) Quit FW by signing up with a real corp. 2) Haul my stuff around and run a few missions. 3) Attempt to quit the corp to return to FW later in the day. 4) Wait 24 hours for roles to be removed 5) Reenlist with the Militia
as Opposed to 1) Click the "Retire" Button
can I ask....... why?
No, we think you should live with the consequences of what you do, if you're a hopper hop along.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Napro
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
No, we think you should live with the consequences of what you do, if you're a hopper hop along.
You people take this stuff way too seriously. Eve is a Game. A G-A-M-E Game
Enjoy your lag spikes whenever someone hits the database for my 50 page employment history then, i guess.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 16/07/2008 02:31:50
Originally by: Napro Edited by: Napro on 16/07/2008 02:20:53
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Or you could quit it by joining a real corp, instead of just dropping corp mindlessly. It's a pet peeve of mine when players spend two hours in a NPC corp between PC corps - look before you leap, people.
Wow.... Let me get this straight. You think I should: 1) Quit FW by signing up with a real corp. 2) Haul my stuff around and run a few missions. 3) Attempt to quit the corp to return to FW later in the day. 4) Wait 24 hours for roles to be removed 5) Reenlist with the Militia
as Opposed to 1) Click the "Retire" Button
can I ask....... why?
Your steps 1-5 assume that you're starting in the militia and ending in the militia. As such, the correct way to enact this plan is Step 0: Do absolutely nothing. You can run missions and haul stuff in a militia corp. If you need to haul stuff through enemy space, use courier contracts or an alt, like all those pirates who don't have a "Retire my sec status" button do. Also, Step 4 is bogus - there's no way someone like you would get roles.
Also, two of those Perkone jaunts were for one minute. Please don't try to tell me you hauled stuff or ran a mission in that period of time.
Originally by: Napro
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
No, we think you should live with the consequences of what you do, if you're a hopper hop along.
You people take this stuff way too seriously. Eve is a Game. A G-A-M-E Game
Enjoy your lag spikes whenever someone hits the database for my 50 page employment history then, i guess.
And the consequences are in game too. If a RL employer wanted to look up my Eve corp history, I'd tell him to sod off. But when an Eve employer wants to look, more power to him. And that lag is the other reason why it's a pet peeve of mine - your laziness about moving between corps makes your corp history harder to read and laggier. ------------------ Fix the forums! |

Farrqua
Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Napro Edited by: Napro on 16/07/2008 02:20:53
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Or you could quit it by joining a real corp, instead of just dropping corp mindlessly. It's a pet peeve of mine when players spend two hours in a NPC corp between PC corps - look before you leap, people.
Wow.... Let me get this straight. You think I should: 1) Quit FW by signing up with a real corp. 2) Haul my stuff around and run a few missions. 3) Attempt to quit the corp to return to FW later in the day. 4) Wait 24 hours for roles to be removed 5) Reenlist with the Militia
as Opposed to 1) Click the "Retire" Button
can I ask....... why?
OK dude real quick. What everyone (well most any way) are saying is quit hopping around. Stay put and it will benefit you later.
If A CEO sees a long arse employment record on a fairly young player, or jumping around like a rabbit from Corp to corp, what makes the CEO want to accept you in the corp. He/She is there to build the corp with players that will hopefully hang around for a while. Stability.
Your record shows that you hop ship for your personal convenience.
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Napro
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:43:00 -
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Edited by: Napro on 16/07/2008 02:43:39 Edited by: Napro on 16/07/2008 02:43:22
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Your steps 1-5 assume that you're starting in the militia and ending in the militia. As such, the correct way to enact this plan is Step 0: Do absolutely nothing. You can run missions and haul stuff in a militia corp.
It's obvious you dont know anything about FW, so this is my last reply to you.
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Also, two of those Perkone jaunts were for one minute. Please don't try to tell me you hauled stuff or ran a mission in that period of time.
No, actually, one of those times was an accident and the other I just wanted to check if it would reset time spent in militia stat after rejoining (it does). I'm sure that speaks volumes about my ability to fly a ship 
Quote:
blah blah you're not employable blahblah
Look I'm never going to seek a position with any moron(s) who think I should be risking defenseless hauling ships to high-sec gate camps just to keep my employment log nice and tidy. So don't even worry about that. I just dont want my employment history cluttered with duplicate crap. Add a "Quitter" Decoration for all I care, just keep it out of employment history
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:54:00 -
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How about no? It's a F-E-A-T-U-R-E.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Farrqua
Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Napro Edited by: Napro on 16/07/2008 02:43:39 Edited by: Napro on 16/07/2008 02:43:22
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Your steps 1-5 assume that you're starting in the militia and ending in the militia. As such, the correct way to enact this plan is Step 0: Do absolutely nothing. You can run missions and haul stuff in a militia corp.
It's obvious you dont know anything about FW, so this is my last reply to you.
Quote:
Also, two of those Perkone jaunts were for one minute. Please don't try to tell me you hauled stuff or ran a mission in that period of time.
No, actually, one of those times was an accident and the other I just wanted to check if it would reset time spent in militia stat after rejoining (it does). I'm sure that speaks volumes about my ability to fly a ship 
Quote:
blah blah you're not employable blahblah
Look I'm never going to seek a position with any moron(s) who think I should be risking defenseless hauling ships to high-sec gate camps just to keep my employment log nice and tidy. So don't even worry about that. I just dont want my employment history cluttered with duplicate crap. Add a "Quitter" Decoration for all I care, just keep it out of employment history
Yea ok, with this attitude you will go far. Good luck with that.
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Napro
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.16 03:00:00 -
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You had to quote my entire post for that response? 
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Farrqua
Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.16 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Napro You had to quote my entire post for that response? 
yea pretty much.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.07.16 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink REQUEST DENIED

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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.16 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Napro It's obvious you dont know anything about FW, so this is my last reply to you. (snip) Look I'm never going to seek a position with any moron(s) who think I should be risking defenseless hauling ships to high-sec gate camps just to keep my employment log nice and tidy. So don't even worry about that. I just dont want my employment history cluttered with duplicate crap. Add a "Quitter" Decoration for all I care, just keep it out of employment history
I haven't flown in FW on TQ, so I'll agree that my firsthand knowledge of this exact situation is imperfect. However, it doesn't need to be perfect - you're hardly the first person to have to worry about gate camps, and I'll bet none of them resorted to corp-hopping to escape them. Pirates below -5 use hauler alts and courier contracts. Everybody can use stabs, istabs, and WTZ. People can get friends to tag along, scout with an alt(assuming they have two accounts) or with a shuttle/noob ship, or just roll the dice.
You are not the first person to risk a defenceless hauler. And yet, you're the first I've ever seen claim that it's some sort of unjustifiable burden to have risk while flying in a corp designed for fleet PvP. You think 0.0 alliances haven't figured out how to haul goods through risky space? The Caldari militia is now the largest alliance of players in the game, bigger than GoonSwarm. If that bunch can figure all this stuff out, surely you can too. ------------------ Fix the forums! |

nutbar
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.07.16 04:02:00 -
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I currently don't care about removing corp history, but being able to prune out my agents from my "who likes me" list would be nice. There are several agents I worked for once or twice while I was a young noob that I don't care to deal with ever again.
It would be nice to be able to "forget" an agent (and accept with it the drop in all standings that the agent gives you as long as you keep them in your list).
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