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Xanos Blackpaw Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:39:00 - [1] whats the max dps you can get from a ship in this game? this is pure theory...isk dont mather and nothing else exept the dps...what ship and fittings should you use for max theoretical dps?
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:41:00 - [2] I'll bite: DDD?
BiggestT Caldari Fun Inc	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:42:00 - [3] Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw whats the max dps you can get from a ship in this game? this is pure theory...isk dont mather and nothing else exept the dps...what ship and fittings should you use for max theoretical dps? id assume an insanely pimped moros with t2 sentries..
BiggestT Caldari Fun Inc	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:43:00 - [4] Originally by: Haradgrim I'll bite: DDD? actually thats not quite true..dd's fire so slowly that their only effective due to area of effect dmg. if we look at dps in a 1v1 role, dd wldnt be highest ;)
Ralara Caldari Vivicide	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Haradgrim I'll bite: DDD? DDD is low Damage Per Second - it's, what, about 50 DPS or something? I can't quite remember. Highest DPS you can realistically get on a ship (i.e. not jsut Eve Fit Megathron with 7 MFS etc) is about 1200-1300 - that's with maxed skills, faction/deadspace equipment and so forth.
BiggestT Caldari Fun Inc	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:48:00 - [6] Originally by: Ralara DDD is low Damage Per Second - it's, what, about 50 DPS or something? I can't quite remember. Highest DPS you can realistically get on a ship (i.e. not jsut Eve Fit Megathron with 7 MFS etc) is about 1200-1300 - that's with maxed skills, faction/deadspace equipment and so forth. i still think that a moros in siege mode with t2 sentries at optimal with full set of t2 rigs and mag stabs in the lows will beat 1300dps ;) poudly annoying fc's since 2007
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:49:00 - [7] Originally by: Ralara Originally by: Haradgrim I'll bite: DDD? DDD is low Damage Per Second - it's, what, about 50 DPS or something? I can't quite remember. Highest DPS you can realistically get on a ship (i.e. not jsut Eve Fit Megathron with 7 MFS etc) is about 1200-1300 - that's with maxed skills, faction/deadspace equipment and so forth. Uh, pretty sure you can get around that with your run of the mill blasterthron. You can overheat a kronos to get around 1800 or something... I'll try and recreate.
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:52:00 - [8] Edited by: Haradgrim on 16/07/2008 15:53:48 Originally by: BiggestT Originally by: Haradgrim I'll bite: DDD? actually thats not quite true..dd's fire so slowly that their only effective due to area of effect dmg. if we look at dps in a 1v1 role, dd wldnt be highest ;) But it has an AoE damage effect, so the damage to all ships must be measured and since that makes it theorectically infinity (since there is technically no hard limit to the amount of ships on a grid).....amirite? -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Wil Smithx	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:54:00 - [9] No EFT atm but highest dps will be a moros, my theoretical fitting for when I buy a moros will be shield tanked so it can fit more mag stabs and that reaches around 6.6k dps w/o faction ammo or any faction mods, all T1 or capital (and sporting a 5k dps tank)
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:56:00 - [10] So far, Moros wins hands down. [Moros, New Setup 1] Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Tobias' Modified Warp Disruptor Tobias' Modified Stasis Webifier Draclira's Modified Heavy Capacitor Booster, Cap Booster 800 Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Siege Module I Sentry Damage Augmentor I Sentry Damage Augmentor I [empty rig slot] Garde II x5 8603 DPS, 9705 overheated.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.07.16 15:58:00 - [11] Well, DDD has a theoretical infinite damage, the only practical limit is to how many ships you catch in a grid. Same goes for regular smartbombs too, but it's a much lower practical limit on how many people you can get in range. 1.2k targetted DPS is nothing to write home about either, as max-skills T2 gank fits with faction ammo and T2 sentry drones and drone damage rigs plus a damage/rof implant push that envelope on many ships already... and let's not even start about overheating on a megapulse Paladin or torp Golem, for instance. Hell, dreads in siege mode go above 3k DPS, motherships can reach over 2.5k fighter DPS, again, theoretically, against some types of targets. Moros out of siege has an impressive drone damage alone too. And so on and so forth. But eventually, the OP's question is pointless - if ISK is not a factor, why do you even care ? _ *The mineral/moonstuff balance \|\| THE* nanofix**
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.16 16:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Wil Smithx No EFT atm but highest dps will be a moros, my theoretical fitting for when I buy a moros will be shield tanked so it can fit more mag stabs and that reaches around 6.6k dps w/o faction ammo or any faction mods, all T1 or capital (and sporting a 5k dps tank) You're doing to die a horrible death. Originally by: Akita T Well, DDD has a theoretical infinite damage, the only practical limit is to how many ships you catch in a grid. Because ships can not overlap, there is a limit to how many ships can be hit by a DDD My favorite part was the skill remark. That made my day
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.07.16 16:03:00 - [13] Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Originally by: Akita T Well, DDD has a theoretical infinite damage, the only practical limit is to how many ships you catch in a grid. Because ships can not overlap, there is a limit to how many ships can be hit by a DDD Server would croak long before that limit is reached _ *The mineral/moonstuff balance \|\| THE* nanofix**
BiggestT Caldari Fun Inc	Posted - 2008.07.16 16:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Haradgrim Edited by: Haradgrim on 16/07/2008 15:53:48 Originally by: BiggestT Originally by: Haradgrim I'll bite: DDD? actually thats not quite true..dd's fire so slowly that their only effective due to area of effect dmg. if we look at dps in a 1v1 role, dd wldnt be highest ;) But it has an AoE damage effect, so the damage to all ships must be measured and since that makes it theorectically infinity (since there is technically no hard limit to the amount of ships on a grid).....amirite? shhhhhhh ull break eft but its easier to measure it in 1v1 as then it can be a uniform test on all ships poudly annoying fc's since 2007
BiggestT Caldari Fun Inc	Posted - 2008.07.16 16:11:00 - [15] u know i think a phoenix may give a moros a run for its moenny. assume max sp (remember armageddon day :D) if a phoenix uses t2 sentries (they take up the same room as heavies right? correct me if wrong) and has 3 citadel torp launchers that hit for round 20k a pop. if the phoenix was 0 m from target, flighttime cld not reduce dps, and it cld simply have parked sentries at optiaml earlier on.. it cld beat the moros :o poudly annoying fc's since 2007
Wil Smithx	Posted - 2008.07.16 16:12:00 - [16] Edited by: Wil Smithx on 16/07/2008 16:12:27 Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Originally by: Wil Smithx No EFT atm but highest dps will be a moros, my theoretical fitting for when I buy a moros will be shield tanked so it can fit more mag stabs and that reaches around 6.6k dps w/o faction ammo or any faction mods, all T1 or capital (and sporting a 5k dps tank) You're doing to die a horrible death. Yea I meant all T2 or capital, damn lol, T1 fit dread... I would cry. If your saying I will die horribly because of the shield tank and fact I'm using mag stab, I plan to use this ship for pos killing (admittedly I'll have to use longer range ammo which will hurt damage a little) and thus the only way a pos can kill me is if it has neut towers, and you need some MAJOR cap stability to not get screwed by those (since they drain 100 cap per second a piece)(also I can drop mag stabs for cap flux if need be)
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.16 16:16:00 - [17] Originally by: Haradgrim I'll bite: DDD? normal BS should out dps a DDD whit a breeze DDD has sick alpha but very low dps (damage per second) highest dps should be some dread whit officer mods in siege probably(i dunno.. just quessing) moros whit all lvl 5 ion capital blasters + faction AM + ogre 2 in siege whit 4x officer Mag stabs = 8100+ DPS little eft warrioring :D ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.16 16:26:00 - [18] Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 16/07/2008 16:26:17 Originally by: Wil Smithx Yea I meant all T2 or capital, damn lol, T1 fit dread... I would cry. If your saying I will die horribly because of the shield tank and fact I'm using mag stab, I plan to use this ship for pos killing (admittedly I'll have to use longer range ammo which will hurt damage a little) and thus the only way a pos can kill me is if it has neut towers, and you need some MAJOR cap stability to not get screwed by those (since they drain 100 cap per second a piece)(also I can drop mag stabs for cap flux if need be) I will admit, my EFT whoring abilities failed me, overall tanked DPS is extremely low (4k at best, 3k if you use 4 damage mods, which is what you'll need to get near your dps figure while using 5 heavies, which also can't be used on the pos itself). A manned pos will break a 4k sustained tank before the 10 minutes are up easily, 'specially with such awful resists. You might get away with specially tanking for a single pos gun type, but that'll just leave you open when the hot drop happens. My favorite part was the skill remark. That made my day
Wil Smithx	Posted - 2008.07.16 16:38:00 - [19] Originally by: Atsuko Ratu Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 16/07/2008 16:26:17 Originally by: Wil Smithx Yea I meant all T2 or capital, damn lol, T1 fit dread... I would cry. If your saying I will die horribly because of the shield tank and fact I'm using mag stab, I plan to use this ship for pos killing (admittedly I'll have to use longer range ammo which will hurt damage a little) and thus the only way a pos can kill me is if it has neut towers, and you need some MAJOR cap stability to not get screwed by those (since they drain 100 cap per second a piece)(also I can drop mag stabs for cap flux if need be) I will admit, my EFT whoring abilities failed me, overall tanked DPS is extremely low (4k at best, 3k if you use 4 damage mods, which is what you'll need to get near your dps figure while using 5 heavies, which also can't be used on the pos itself). A manned pos will break a 4k sustained tank before the 10 minutes are up easily, 'specially with such awful resists. You might get away with specially tanking for a single pos gun type, but that'll just leave you open when the hot drop happens. Can't contradict you atm since I'm at work with no EFT but I managed a fitting that did do 6.6k dps while maintaining a decent tank, I'm pretty sure it was over 5km, def over 4, though that was before the res nerf so who knows, out now so cant really reply lol
Atsuko Ratu Caldari VSP Corp.	Posted - 2008.07.16 16:40:00 - [20] Originally by: Wil Smithx Can't contradict you atm since I'm at work with no EFT but I managed a fitting that did do 6.6k dps while maintaining a decent tank, I'm pretty sure it was over 5km, def over 4, though that was before the res nerf so who knows, out now so cant really reply lol I'd say go armor tank; if anything, just to avoid the total "lols" from the enemy alliance if you manage to die. My favorite part was the skill remark. That made my day
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:44:00 - [21] An Ibis shooting a fuel canister makes for nice dps.
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:47:00 - [22] i don't know if it has been mentioned, but let me just nitpick: DDD damage, like smartbomb damage, is actually mainly dependant on the thing it hits. so if your grid is full of ships, DDD can probably reach a VERY high theoretical dps :) sure you have to divide the damage a single blast does by 3600, but then again, you have to multiply it by the things you hit (well not really, since most targets dont take the full hit before they pop )
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.16 17:53:00 - [23] I imagine for most of us, the max DPS will come from an overheated torp raven/cnr. IIRC, a regular Raven can put out 1300, and a CNR 1600+. The usual disclaimers about explo radius and explo velocity apply. -Liang -- The Universe has a really good firewall. Why else do you think nobody has hacked the Universe yet?
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.07.16 18:13:00 - [24] Edited by: Derek Sigres on 16/07/2008 18:15:26 Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw whats the max dps you can get from a ship in this game? this is pure theory...isk dont mather and nothing else exept the dps...what ship and fittings should you use for max theoretical dps? Max DPS probably comes from a seiged dred with faction/officer weapon mods and weapon rigs, overheating their guns/launchers. The number would probably be a LOT but for giggles a phoenix with an impossibe fit (full lows of estamiel BCS) and implants AND heat yields 6800 DPS. Caveats include: Tank? Also, shooting anything smaller than a stationary cap ship. *edit - forgot that Phoenix has 25% damage bonus to Kinetic
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.16 18:14:00 - [25] Originally by: Derek Sigres Originally by: Xanos Blackpaw whats the max dps you can get from a ship in this game? this is pure theory...isk dont mather and nothing else exept the dps...what ship and fittings should you use for max theoretical dps? Max DPS probably comes from a seiged dred with faction/officer weapon mods and weapon rigs, overheating their guns/launchers. The number would probably be a LOT but for giggles a phoenix with an impossibe fit (full lows of estamiel BCS) and implants AND heat yields 5500 DPS. Caveats include: Tank? Also, shooting anything smaller than a stationary cap ship. Pssst, check the moros setup above.
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.16 18:23:00 - [26] Originally by: AstroPhobic Pssst, check the moros setup above. TBFH, that Moros is pretty weak. I was always a fan of the Rev during the "siege-infinite-dps" bug a while back. Apparently there was a way to make the Rev's ROF 0. -Liang -- The Universe has a really good firewall. Why else do you think nobody has hacked the Universe yet?
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.16 18:26:00 - [27] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: AstroPhobic Pssst, check the moros setup above. TBFH, that Moros is pretty weak. I was always a fan of the Rev during the "siege-infinite-dps" bug a while back. Apparently there was a way to make the Rev's ROF 0. -Liang Do want. Well, nobody's topped my EFT-DPS figure yet. I'm pretty sure your ravens would get curbstomped by a kronos, though.
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.16 18:33:00 - [28] Originally by: AstroPhobic I'm pretty sure your ravens would get curbstomped by a kronos, though. I'm pretty sure my Raven has 5 light ECM drones in the drone bay to take care of that Kronos. ;-) -Liang -- The Universe has a really good firewall. Why else do you think nobody has hacked the Universe yet?
Lanu	Posted - 2008.07.16 18:36:00 - [29] Moros Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer x 7 Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL x 3 overloaded Siege Module I Hybrid Burst Aerator II Hybrid Burst Aerator II Ogre II x5 5% xl hybrid turret damage implant 5% all turret damage implant 11 738 DPS 60 042 damage alpha strike
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.16 18:40:00 - [30] Originally by: Lanu Moros Cormack's Modified Magnetic Field Stabilizer x 7 Ion Siege Blaster Cannon I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL x 3 overloaded Siege Module I Hybrid Burst Aerator II Hybrid Burst Aerator II Ogre II x5 5% xl hybrid turret damage implant 5% all turret damage implant 11 738 DPS 60 042 damage alpha strike edit- cant fit 2 of those t2 rigs, with t1 rigs its 10 769 dps What happens if you replace Ogres for Garde II's and replace an Aerator with a SDA? -- The Universe has a really good firewall. Why else do you think nobody has hacked the Universe yet?

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