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GM Panzer
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Posted - 2004.05.24 04:08:00 -
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Edited by: GM Panzer on 24/05/2004 04:25:40
10 Safety Tips
Loosing ships, items and getting podded, is all a healthy part of EVE. However, there are several ways to increase the safety of your characters and minimize potential losses. I guess most of you allready know how to use most of the features I will list. Nevertheless, you would be surprised to know how many cases we see, where players could have avoided big losses by just using simple ingame features and being a bit more careful. So here below Im going to list 10 useful safety measures that can help to keep your clone contract unused.
1. Dont play the game in AFK mode. This game is not designed with this kind of playing style in mind and you should NEVER consider your ship and character safe while being away from your computer.
2. Enter space with security status below 0.5 at own risk. You can NEVER expect to be safe in unsecure space regardless of sentry guns and such.
3. Insure all ships you are using, especially the expensive ones. Since the the time of an insurance contract was changed to 12 weeks, it makes sense without doubt to buy the most expensive "platinum" type of insurnace. At least for those who play quite fequently.
4. Don't expect CONCORD to keep you immune to attacks or ship losses. Like in the real world, law enforcers often arrive too late at the scene of the crime and even though being able to punish the criminal, can't always prevent the crime.
5. Don't rely on Sentry Guns to keep you a 100% safe. Especially not when travelling in unsecure space. There are several tactical ways to avoid sentry gun fire, that are NOT considered to be an exploit.
6. Use map filters such as "ships destroyed in the last hour" to spot possible player pirate camps and other dangerous areas.
7. Use the local chat channel to see whats happening within the system when you have just jumped in.
8. Monitor your faction standing closely. If you have a negative standing (-2.0 or more) against any faction you can expect them to attack you on sight.
9. Use Warp Core Stabilizers to avoid being warp jammed. The more, the merrier.
10. Use the auto-scanner and set it to alert you when anyone in scanning range is a potential threat to you.
Or better yet, always expect the worst, trust noone and never leave station  .
All you veterans of EVE, please feel free to contribute any tips regarding in-space safety.
I hope this is of any help, especially for some of you new players.
Stay out of trouble and keep enjoying EVE
GM Panzer
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2004.05.24 04:10:00 -
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Nice.
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.05.24 04:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 24/05/2004 04:13:50
Great tips, except the faction thing is obsolete, has to be like -5 now for them to care iirc.
Also undocking when there are people in local is dangerous. Especially if you have enemies and/or are flying a priceless ship o_0
Don't petition people for harassment when they blow you up. That'll p i s s them off and they'll dedicate their lives to griefing you out of the game.
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.24 04:23:00 -
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Edited by: Stavros on 24/05/2004 04:25:00
Best tips are:
Don't spend your life afk mining im empire space for a battleship then take it to 0.0 and die like a bish. Go to 0.0 in a frigate, shoot some people, shoot some npcs die a few times, learn the pvp basics and have some fun.
Thirdly TREAT EVERYONE AS HOSTILE unless you know otherwise, ie if you dont know someone as a friend or aquiantance assume they are planning to kill you and watch them at all times.
Finally, do NOT base your ship setups on some crap you read on the forums as most of the setups I see on here are complete and utter junk, many is the time we have downed a battleship to find that not only does it have the wrong type of guns for that ship but the wrong sized modules as well (two small shield boosters on an apoc etc etc. and yes thats true). Experiment on your own and if you can't afford to do it on tq use chaos.
Although saying all of this 90% of the noobs will afk mine in empire space till they have a bship and then promptly get ganked as soon as they hit 0.0 space. Then they will run here, cry about some exploit or cheat and then threaten to quit. Just the way of the game :P
Stavros
edited by Eris Discordia
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.05.24 04:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Stavros
TREAT EVERYONE AS HOSTILE unless you know otherwise, ie if you dont know someone as a friend or aquiantance assume they are planning to kill you and watch them at all times.
Best tip in this thread.
If you are in 0.0, unless you know them they will probably try to kill you. Just assume that.
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Falbala
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Posted - 2004.05.24 05:52:00 -
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When you are warp scrambled you are not dead yet. You can still escape by moving away from the spot if they didn't webify you. For this, click on empty space.
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XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.05.24 06:01:00 -
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Edited by: XpoHoc on 24/05/2004 07:51:12
11. If 1-10 didn't help you to avoid a blockade and you are sitting there being scrambled and triple webified, then try to act reasonable. Wait for a convo, accept it, stop your ship, be mature in the convo and think about what your life and your ship is worth to you, don't expect to be the winner in that kind of conflict, but you can still go out with a lesser loss than losing everything.
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.05.24 06:27:00 -
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There is a first time for everything it seems.
/emote aplauds this GM and give him 5 starts in my book
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Lady Beeblebrox
Teddybears movies
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Dufas
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Posted - 2004.05.24 06:29:00 -
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rule i live by...if you cant afford to replace it..then dont take the chance of losing it...that goes for ships and mods
im also working on a way to mine while not having to undock..i'll keep u posted 
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.05.24 06:44:00 -
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Yeah that never ceases to amaze me, ships with two and even 3 types of guns and sometimes 2 and 3 kinds of weapon upgrade, I mean WTF?
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Shovasta
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Posted - 2004.05.24 07:15:00 -
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Never accept gang invites from strangers.
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Laika Minirva
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Posted - 2004.05.24 07:17:00 -
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Edited by: Laika Minirva on 24/05/2004 07:30:40
Here are some tips:
Most newbies i meet start out mining, which is very dangerous.Basicly once you start mining, its very hard to stop.You start in a bantam, thinking "If i had mining skill IV i could use miner¦s and i'd be in a cruiser in no time!" then your corp mates lure you into their mining trap with slogans such as "Did you know a Thorax can make 2 million ISK an hour?"
Its all lies!You don't have to start mining, you are not your ISK!Soon you'll be in a battleship, with 7 million mining-related skillpoints and you'll quit the game out of boredom.Or go into 0.0 thinking you're Mr.Hotshít McBattleshipOwner and get ganked by 2 kestrels and a rifter.Only mine if you really enjoy mining. (and there are those that do, believe it or not*)
Also, Many people care about their skilltraining times, and as soon as they have the money they go crazy and buy a full set of implants.Even for *real* rich people, 60-80 million ISK for a full set is nothing to be laughed at.Anyway what usually happens is that implants severely ristrict people from having fun.I think its the no.1 excuse for not joining 0.0 operations. "Uhm i can't, what about my implants"
Basicly everyone should reflect on themselves and choose between more fun, or extra training time cowaring away stripmining scordite in yulai.
P.S. my frigate got ganked by a dominix with tachyons and autocannon projectiles on it down in Great Wildlands last night.But hey, he's Curse Alliance..bless his little cotton socks. 
P.P.S. Here is the 'why do people enjoy mining theory'
Basicly, there are 2 types of miners who enjoy mining:
Type 1 bleeds from the crotch.Obviously.
Type 2 treats EVE as a glorified chat program, and just mines to kill the time while chatting with others, often about totally non-EVE related subjects. (The weather in Stockholm, the wingspan of snowy owls, my boyfriend left me, blablabla)
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.05.24 07:31:00 -
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According to the latest news after petitioning the answer from a GM:
Loggin off while beeing warpscrambled is a gamemechanism, and should make you dissapear after x ammount of seconds. If it doesn't, petition it. You might get your ship refunded.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.05.24 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 24/05/2004 07:53:11
Originally by: DREAMWORKS
Loggin off while beeing warpscrambled is a gamemechanism, and should make you dissapear after x ammount of seconds. If it doesn't, petition it. You might get your ship refunded.
Not recommended if you're trying to do it against someone who is trying to ransom you. Next time, your ship will be destroyed and your pod will be sqished, no questions asked. Also, if you're doing it against someone who is not trying to ransom but just kill you, it will probably make you the #1 target if you attack fleet vs fleet.
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Mr Popov
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Posted - 2004.05.24 07:48:00 -
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oh and to add to the discussion at hand: under most circumstances, as of now, try to work your setup around a MWD. Meaning the first thing you should put on your ship is a MWD of appropriate size (1mn, 10mn, 100mn for frigates, cruisers, and battleships respectively) and work with the setup from there. 
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FoRGyL
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Posted - 2004.05.24 07:50:00 -
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Learn how to use the scanner and put out safespots!
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Laika Minirva
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Posted - 2004.05.24 07:50:00 -
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I've got one about the "LOLLERCAUST!" too, but alas.. i can't show it here. 
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.05.24 07:50:00 -
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If you jump into a system with enemies, and they are not at the gate you are at, don't warp to the other gate. Instead, warp to a planet, moon or similar and from there use the directional scanner on the other gate to see if they are there.
This doesn't always work, as some systems are too big to have any object close enough to be within scanner range from the stargate, but it might save a few ships.
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.05.24 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Judicator on 24/05/2004 08:23:03
Undock local chat from the main window and keep it in a corner. Monitor it while flying around. This applies mostly if you have empire wars, are traveling in 0.0 or through unsecure empire space.
Look at the map befor eyou travel if you are going through zones that are inherently dangerous. Sort by Pod kills in 24 hours/1 hours and shipkills equally. The map is not always totally reliable, but it gives a good overview.
And last but not least, as a few has mentioned, be paranoid as hell. If it's not definatly with you it's probably out to get you.
Edit:
Learn how to make instajump bookmarks and make them in inexpensive ships. With instajump bookmarks you will travel fast and "safe". There is always a risk they get you on the JIP on the other side or a mobile warp disrupter pulls you out right where any ganksquad want you.
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HybridMiner
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Posted - 2004.05.24 08:30:00 -
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Hehe, scorpyn, you didnt ransom my megathron, but at least i went down honourably and took out a ship on my way down =p
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.05.24 09:07:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 24/05/2004 09:11:41
Originally by: HybridMiner
Hehe, scorpyn, you didnt ransom my megathron, but at least i went down honourably and took out a ship on my way down =p
I wasn't referring to you
We usually do ransom, but in your case we got a little carried away. We had just started pirating, and it was actually the 2nd battleship I had attacked since the start (of the pirating that is), and we were not really prepaired to be able to get any ransom money at that time and as such we didn't watch local... sorry 'bout that... and it was exciting, especially the fact that you got one of our ships (note to self : drones are dangerous  )
btw, I checked the fraps footage... I can't believe I missed it, I must have been blind - I didn't notice it until a corpmate said it on ventrilo, and at that time it was too late to react... as I said, we had started the pirating very recently.
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2004.05.24 09:19:00 -
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After surviving 2-3 months:
Get a master/mentor. Luke Skywalker needed Joda and you need a player that teaches you to use the force. This will help you to minimize your lost ships. Don¦t cry or beg - attack him. Even if he blows up your ship he¦ll show respect if you attack his BS in a frig. Fearless attackers in EVE are rare and worthy players.
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HybridMiner
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Posted - 2004.05.24 09:52:00 -
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Hehe, no problem man :)
I actually forgot about my drones, if i hadnt i may have managed some more dammage, the Blackbird i killed was with my 425mm's, but i had my npc fit so i had no chance up against several pvp fitted ships =/
Contact me ingame, i wanna see the fraps footage =]
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Alkad Mzu
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Posted - 2004.05.24 10:26:00 -
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A lot of good tips here :-)
Here's a couple of my preferred approaches:
If you're travelling through known hotspots, always try and get another warp-in angle to the gate than the one the campers are expecting, gate-to-gate gets you dead :)(yes, always assume they are in fact camping)
Also, as someone else mentioned, try and find the planet/moon closest to the gate you want to go through, and use the directional scanner to asess the situation. If there are no nearby planets, use the old MWD-to-drain-cap trick and cover the needed distance in short warps.
Finally, if you're going to cover some distance in unsecure space, team up with someone! You'd be surprised how many supposedly badass pirates disappear without a trace as soon as two or more pilots enter their otherwise deserted system :-)
Oh, and somebody needs to say this: Use instajump BM's
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Ashka Neris
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Posted - 2004.05.24 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Ashka Neris on 24/05/2004 10:31:48
If you plan to 0.0 mine, practice practice practice. Never evere take in a cruiser until you've figured out the tactics invloved.
Always start in a probe, bantam... or the race equivilent. They're cheap, got big cargo holds (for the rare mins) and easily replaceble. Insure it, the costs are just about replacerd and alsways upgrade your clone. Once you're used to the dangers and can afford the risk of loosing one, then take in a cruiser to mine, but make sure your well modded, casue those player pirates always come prepared.
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Ashka Neris
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Posted - 2004.05.24 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Alkad Mzu
A lot of good tips here :-)
Oh, and somebody needs to say this: Use instajump BM's
Wont they be made obsoletee soon? :(
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.05.24 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 24/05/2004 10:40:09
Originally by: HybridMiner
I actually forgot about my drones, if i hadnt i may have managed some more dammage, the Blackbird i killed was with my 425mm's
Note to self : Sensor dampeners are not good when fighting short range 
hmm... no drones? need to check that video again... 
Originally by: HybridMiner
Contact me ingame, i wanna see the fraps footage =]
I will
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2004.05.24 11:21:00 -
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My 2 Isk.
When passing through lower security areas, speak to people if they're there. Not everyone is a pirate, they can often provide useful info on the system, constellation or region that can prove valuable. As always though, remain on your guard.
A little research on the areas you frequent can save a lot of heartache
La Maison de tous Les Plaisirs
Star Fraction
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Dami
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Posted - 2004.05.24 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: GM Panzer
Edited by: GM Panzer on 24/05/2004 04:25:40
8. Monitor your faction standing closely. If you have a negative standing (-2.0 or more) against any faction you can expect them to attack you on sight.
Well now i'm confused. Some people say that faction stading doesn't matter, only security status does. Now the GM tells me the oposite. I've been doing missions (lvl3, currier)) for 1 month and gain quite some negative faction stadings (Gallente -2.2, etc) but i can travel normal in gallente state. Can some1 explain this crap about faction standings?
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Syme
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Posted - 2004.05.24 11:43:00 -
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Basically if you have done an enourmous amount of missions for one faction or attacked another factions ships on a regular basis you will be treated as a criminal by that faction. A message will appear when you enter their space telling you when this will happen.
Another safety tip: If you are in a battleship, do not travel alone. Battleships are fleet ships not for soloing in. (Oh how many times do I have to hit my head against my keyboard for this lesson to get through my thick skull ) |
Matanga
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Posted - 2004.05.24 13:24:00 -
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--- Don't go hunting rats/PvP on patch day...is better to stay out of game and check the forums
--- WCSs are your friends (2 or more)
--- When traveling in 0.0 always turn off your autopilot when u jump that way you can check the gate while still cloaked
"ÆIn accordance with the principles of double-think it does not matter if the war is not real. For when it is, victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, but it is meant to be continuous.Æö
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Amarissy
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Posted - 2004.05.24 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: GM Panzer
Edited by: GM Panzer on 24/05/2004 04:25:40
Or better yet, always expect the worst, trust noone and never leave station .
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Stay out of trouble and keep enjoying EVE
GM Panzer
just lol.
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.05.24 15:01:00 -
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one tip.
If you see a few unknown people in local and a frigate or other ship locks you up near a gate. Do not return fire, it may look like an easy kill, but you now you cant jump for a minute while his buddies warp in and gankz0rz j00.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.05.24 15:53:00 -
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Please keep the discussion limited to the topic, feel free to add constructive tips as well or answer questions but don't drift too far from the topic.
This thread will be moved to the new Citizen forum sooner or later and hopefully it will be easy on the eye for the nubi's
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.05.24 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dami
Originally by: GM Panzer
Edited by: GM Panzer on 24/05/2004 04:25:40
8. Monitor your faction standing closely. If you have a negative standing (-2.0 or more) against any faction you can expect them to attack you on sight.
Well now i'm confused. Some people say that faction stading doesn't matter, only security status does. Now the GM tells me the oposite. I've been doing missions (lvl3, currier)) for 1 month and gain quite some negative faction stadings (Gallente -2.2, etc) but i can travel normal in gallente state. Can some1 explain this crap about faction standings?
GMs are people too, he's wrong about this particular point. Tbh GMs are often wrong.
-2 faction rating is not enough for a faction to attack you on sight. It used to be enough but it's been changed since then. I believe it's -5 now. Haven't tested it yet since my Khanid standing is still -3.73, they never shoot at me.
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Bruce
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Posted - 2004.05.24 16:13:00 -
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One big rule of thumb for survival when your with someone or solo'ing
ENERGY = LIFE!
Get those skills that make your cap recharge faster and give you a bigger cap. The better these are the longer you can fire your weapons, use your MWD, web someone, shield boost, or armor tank. If your cap can stay recharge longer than your enemies, usually you'll come out ontop. 
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Damaclease
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Posted - 2004.05.24 16:33:00 -
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my tip is get friends and allies. Simple
Even the worst pirate has brians to run from a big blob moving in his direction
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Modr
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Posted - 2004.05.24 17:19:00 -
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What a pathetic post. Another pandering attempt at mollifying the evergrowing SimCity crowd. How about a "tips on pirating" or a "tips on avoiding cops and killing people without repercussion?" You never hear any such thing. As the developers and owners of this game, the GMs have a freakin obligation not to focus solely on one segment of the population. Boo. Hiss.
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N'Jorah
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Posted - 2004.05.24 17:22:00 -
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11. No matter how often piracy is nerfed, changed, or adjusted to keep casual players alive, the pirates WILL find a new way to kill you that we don't know about yet, and it will be legal to do so until it is nerfed, changed, or adjusted, at which point the smarter players, err pirates, will find a new way to kill you as per rule #11.
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Alebert Einstein
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Posted - 2004.05.24 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Modr
What a pathetic post. Another pandering attempt at mollifying the evergrowing SimCity crowd. How about a "tips on pirating" or a "tips on avoiding cops and killing people without repercussion?" You never hear any such thing. As the developers and owners of this game, the GMs have a freakin obligation not to focus solely on one segment of the population. Boo. Hiss.
Don't worry, it's just like school.
The slow learners, and those with learning disabilities get special attention from the teachers.
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Rhage Aeturnus
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Posted - 2004.05.24 17:34:00 -
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Concur with Modr. If this keeps up, it will turn into EQ. Post opposing techiques to be fair please. |
Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2004.05.24 19:05:00 -
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well heres my list
1. DONT use a SMART BOMB in 0.1+ space at a STARGATE (lost blackbird this way)
2. DONT use MINES in 0.1+ space (lost moa this way)
3. NEVER undock at a station 10 min after a PIRATE or WAR ENEMY leaves LOCAL (a FRIEND WILL be camping the STATION ) ( got a blackbird to 80% hull that way )
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Bhaal
What has turned out better than expected?
Everything. Remember, we're from Iceland.
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Shap Sheegger
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Posted - 2004.05.24 21:48:00 -
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Edited by: Shap Sheegger on 24/05/2004 21:50:58
My 2 cents:
USE INSTABOOKMARKS!
They effectively cut the risk of dying by 99% if you also log-off at the other side of the gate.(The jump-in point.)The only way for you to die to a blockade is if they use deployable warp disruptors.These are expensive and vunerable and don't even fit in most ship cargobays, so don't worry about them, no blockade can stop you!
Instajumps make it so that you don't have to PvP if you dont want to!Call me a carebear but we are not all interested in guns, i just want to haul my zydrine around through 0.0 space without having to die to some pirate in a battleship.
INSTA-Bookmarks are here to stay, face it pirates, the devs hate you.. and they love us 'carebears' they are normal players themselves, they problaly use them themselves so instabookmarks are never going away!
40 jump bookmarking might seem tedious, but i always say One day of bookmarking on an alt in a shuttle, a lifetime of invincibility!
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Princess Andromeda
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Posted - 2004.05.24 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Princess Andromeda on 24/05/2004 22:20:22
A member of my corp just had his indy destroyed at a gate in .8 space. The attacking ship was destroyed, but his buddy nearby scooped up the cargo. 30 mil worth.
Shouldn't noobs be warned about this?
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Phoenixgurl
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Posted - 2004.05.24 22:52:00 -
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yah, but don't travel in indies with big cargo. Use containers to hide the content, less chances to being ganked. Put a little bit of armor to it (200mm) and you'll endur 2-3 cruises :P
Or like first rule, travel in a cruiser. I know it doesnt haul much, but if its refined ores, its safer.
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MacLagavulin
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Posted - 2004.05.25 07:20:00 -
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don't launch your drones if a smart bomb is active
if you don't show some respect, don't expect it from me |
Vaster
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Posted - 2004.05.25 07:33:00 -
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Read the forums, and ask the more expirienced players WHO'S WHO. Knowing who these people are in local with you can save you as quickly as a safe spot. Show info on the players in question and check their bio, you would be suprised how many pirate corps post this in their description. Also, check their standings with other corps and with concord. If they are part of an alliance, they will usually post this as well.
It won't tell you who to trust, but it may warn you who to avoid.
Also, use your scanner and check what their flying. 5 rats can be bad news. 5 rats in indies are not
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Laika Minirva
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Posted - 2004.05.25 07:49:00 -
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Originally by: Vaster
Read the forums, and ask the more expirienced players WHO'S WHO. Knowing who these people are in local with you can save you as quickly as a safe spot.
Unfortunatly (or maybe not..) only 3-5% orso of the 30k playerbase are active forum prostitutes.
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Djengis Knudde
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Posted - 2004.05.25 11:06:00 -
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Asses the risk you are about to take and face any unfortunate concequenses with a smile on your face.
Congratulate your oponent with the kill.
Make sure you were prepared for an event like this i.e. insurance, updated clone.
Every ship is designed to blow up once
Remember that there are many more days/weeks/months to come for us addicts in this game.
Pats his ZX200 Ultra delux pod.
2 Windows, flowers and airco. |
Siddy
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Posted - 2004.05.25 11:47:00 -
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When pirates come, Stick ur head in as... i mean Space Sand and hope they dont see u
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khainestar
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Posted - 2004.05.25 12:43:00 -
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Something that needs spelling out
There is no such thing as 'safe space'. You can get destroyed in a 1.0 system. Its small consolation thinking "they got theres" as you sit in a pod, or worse wait for the clone to activate.
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wayz
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Posted - 2004.05.25 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dufas
rule i live by...if you cant afford to replace it..then dont take the chance of losing it...that goes for ships and mods
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totally disagree with that 100% eve is about taking risks! if you dont take risks in eve you'll still be mining scord in empire for many years to come. My suggestion is make sure you understand the risk you are taking and do your best to avoid it. E.G getting your first bs then heading up to alliance controled space to join your new corp without fitting warp core stabs or having BM's.......... bad idea.
Deciding you know how to ninja mine because how hard can it be
volounteering to take part in a big battle in your first battleship when you have no idea about pvp (try playing around with your corpmates and alliance mates alot first)
Take the risks, live your eve existance on the edge
walking on the edge and jumping off it are two completely different things though
Wayz: cmon X hurry up I aint got all day!
Twisted Xistance: oh yeah lol.... anyway, you have got all day you benefit scrounging jobbless schmoe!
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MacLagavulin
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Posted - 2004.05.25 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: MacLagavulin on 25/05/2004 18:23:26
Hey .. whats this? Why has my first posting in this thread been deleted without any comment? There was no Harressment oder bad language in it and it's a fact that the local chat does'nt show all players in a system. Every player knows this! It's also a fact, that the shown numbers at the map are allways a bit "old". Also the scanner shows people as dangerous without any reason, it's simply buggy. The tipps are o.k., but there's something new players should know about things really work or not!
I wrote it just a few minutes before the second posting and it was there this morning. Come on ... why this kind of censoring?
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BaDsAnTa
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Posted - 2004.05.25 21:21:00 -
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 And try not to talk trash after you lose a ship
Cussing and whining ....
If you journey into -0.4 space or below make sure you know some PvP or want to learn the hard way.
I'm dreaming of a RED X-mas
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Sorrento
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Posted - 2004.05.25 21:56:00 -
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Tip: stay in secure space...
unless youre intending to join an alliance, theres nothing but death in 0.0 by experienced players who will take delight in killing you, then branding you a *newb and the games not for you etc...*
EI: 'E was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'. We used to live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.
GC: House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!
TG: You were lucky to have a ROOM! *We* used to have to live in a corridor!
MP: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor! Woulda' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.
EI: Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered by a piece of tarpaulin, but it was a house to US.
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Falbala
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Posted - 2004.05.26 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Dami
Originally by: GM Panzer
Edited by: GM Panzer on 24/05/2004 04:25:40
8. Monitor your faction standing closely. If you have a negative standing (-2.0 or more) against any faction you can expect them to attack you on sight.
Well now i'm confused. Some people say that faction stading doesn't matter, only security status does. Now the GM tells me the oposite. I've been doing missions (lvl3, currier)) for 1 month and gain quite some negative faction stadings (Gallente -2.2, etc) but i can travel normal in gallente state. Can some1 explain this crap about faction standings?
GMs are people too, he's wrong about this particular point. Tbh GMs are often wrong.
-2 faction rating is not enough for a faction to attack you on sight. It used to be enough but it's been changed since then. I believe it's -5 now. Haven't tested it yet since my Khanid standing is still -3.73, they never shoot at me.
Normally it should be -2.0 for a 1.0 system, and so on like security status, but it is broken or has been removed.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.05.26 17:54:00 -
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Most people in EVE (even experienced ones) die because of GREED, LAZINESS and lastly FOOLHARDY INATTENTIVENESS (which could be laziness).
Just one more NPC, Just one more 'roid, I can stuff 50mil isk worth of Mins in this slow ass indy or ALL my BPS at one time. "Ahhh, i'm just jumping from system to system - 30 jumps! How could anyone watch the screen the entire time?" (even though your corp has a few decent war decs against it).... etc..
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2004.05.27 10:19:00 -
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Yes, share with me all your PvP tips and tricks, so Ill know how to counter them when I meet you in 0.0
But seriously, some PvP advice would be good but probably not in this thread as this seems to be designed to alert newbies of whats going on and how to avoid it. (and, if educating newbies is gonna cut into your PvP habits then you need help...)
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Maric
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Posted - 2004.05.27 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
Most people in EVE (even experienced ones) die because of GREED, LAZINESS and lastly FOOLHARDY INATTENTIVENESS (which could be laziness).
Just one more NPC, Just one more 'roid, I can stuff 50mil isk worth of Mins in this slow ass indy or ALL my BPS at one time. "Ahhh, i'm just jumping from system to system - 30 jumps! How could anyone watch the screen the entire time?" (even though your corp has a few decent war decs against it).... etc..
put me on the list above
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Maric
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Posted - 2004.05.27 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Matanga
--- When traveling in 0.0 always turn off your autopilot when u jump that way you can check the gate while still cloaked
And what to do if there is an enemy? I will be uncloacked soon and then what?
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OmegaPsycho
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Posted - 2004.05.27 12:19:00 -
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AFK mode
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Give me what I want and i'll leave....
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Guidelines For opening a "Thread of Smack Talking" on Forums:
a)Have a pic,video or chat log of how u owned the player or Corp. if not then STFU!!! k?
b)If someone has pwned u because u suck at EVE do not come crying to the forums cause NO 1 GIVES A FLYING DUCK!!! k?
c)If someone has "ganked" u "HARD" because of "poor game mechanics" send in a "Petition" don't come crying to forums. k?
d) last but not least, If u do not have something constructive to say on the forums then STFU!! k?
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Koda
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Posted - 2004.05.27 14:06:00 -
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If you're traveling alone, your set-up should always focus on escape.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2004.05.27 14:39:00 -
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Always attack battleships in Ibis, they are such an underrated combat ship
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Kitten Hearder
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Posted - 2004.05.27 17:11:00 -
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*reads thread*
A healthy mix of the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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Kitten Hearder
Evolution made my sig
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Bhal'rog
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Posted - 2004.05.27 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Maric
Originally by: Matanga
--- When traveling in 0.0 always turn off your autopilot when u jump that way you can check the gate while still cloaked
And what to do if there is an enemy? I will be uncloacked soon and then what?
Well, you might be toast no matter what you do but now you have a choice of where you warp to. Choose the celestial object that you are more closely aligned with. You will get into warp a lot quicker and it might save your bacon.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.05.28 07:51:00 -
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Desticky here, it is still sticked for the new Citizens here
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
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