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To'max
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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:51:00 -
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Hey CCP. EVE is a great game,the only drawback is the Pirates that have been around for too long, just podding people. I started my account back-up with the 14 day free trial to check out the updates. Great I really like whats happening, but a lot and I mean a lot of my friends do not play anymore becuase of the Pirating going on. If you are not flagged PvP (NonCombat), you should not be attacked.
The flag could turn on automaticly if you started mining in a system that is below 0.5, in a war with another corp, or a number of other ways, but just for a new person (or even an old player trying to move his ships) to travel between systems to get podded.. Just bad business.
I've tried to get a good number of other people playing EVE but they all say the same thing, jump gate sitting. It's very cowardly and I believe a lot of the so called 'Pirates' are really just people from other games, trying to scare off players from EVE or SK farmers trying to make some money to sell illegally.
I had 3 accounts at one time, but after my corp with over 300 players started dropping and just stopped playing because of jump gate sitting and other reasons (mainly pirates), I stopped also.
Please do something about these people and put in a Combat/Non-Combat flagging system. They are just as bad as the gold farmers and hurt CCP revenue just as bad. I'm sure you have heard this before, with all the other post about the same subject matter, and if you notice it's the same players responding.
Please let EvE grow into the game that is can be, stop the SK Farmers (Pirates) and stop the people who keep the new players (and some old ones) from playing, make them get out there and play instead of preying on new characters.
Again EVE is a great game, but the Pirates need some control, even the Bounty Sytem does work. I know I'll get some responses about care bare and wining, but again its from the people who prey to make money and stop EVE from growing. lets have war, fight for the right to claim territory and bring in new people to make the equipment and the ships needed for combat not for people to just sit at a gate and wait for new players
Let's see the responses and see if the majority of EVE players agree with me or not.
Thanks for listening.
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Zephyr Rengate
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:52:00 -
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/hug
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire I will not liek human meat but the naerest I tried is human chesse. I don't want to tried again ...
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justsometrader
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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:53:00 -
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if you dont kknow what a flame is...you will now learn pretty quick
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Hannobaal
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:53:00 -
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*sigh*
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Leneerra
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:58:00 -
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There is this small pvp flag button in the station. I believe that if you hover your mouse over it the tooltip refers to it as the undock function. This 'flag' lasts about as long as it takes you to get to another station (regardless of actual means of travel
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:00:00 -
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Imperial Servants
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:00:00 -
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EvE is a PvP oriented game where pirating, griefing (not of completely new players) and scamming are allowed.
If you cannot accept anyone of the above features, then EvE is not a game for you. I do hope you and your friends learn to like the game as it is, but you have to accept the harshness of it.
Anyways, you have to make a choise
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Foulque
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:03:00 -
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"you're never safe" is what makes this game actually interesting.
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: To'max Hey CCP. EVE is a great game,the only drawback is the Pirates that have been around for too long, just podding people. I started my account back-up with the 14 day free trial to check out the updates. Great I really like whats happening, but a lot and I mean a lot of my friends do not play anymore becuase of the Pirating going on. If you are not flagged PvP (NonCombat), you should not be attacked.
The flag could turn on automaticly if you started mining in a system that is below 0.5, in a war with another corp, or a number of other ways, but just for a new person (or even an old player trying to move his ships) to travel between systems to get podded.. Just bad business.
I've tried to get a good number of other people playing EVE but they all say the same thing, jump gate sitting. It's very cowardly and I believe a lot of the so called 'Pirates' are really just people from other games, trying to scare off players from EVE or SK farmers trying to make some money to sell illegally.
I had 3 accounts at one time, but after my corp with over 300 players started dropping and just stopped playing because of jump gate sitting and other reasons (mainly pirates), I stopped also.
Please do something about these people and put in a Combat/Non-Combat flagging system. They are just as bad as the gold farmers and hurt CCP revenue just as bad. I'm sure you have heard this before, with all the other post about the same subject matter, and if you notice it's the same players responding.
Please let EvE grow into the game that is can be, stop the SK Farmers (Pirates) and stop the people who keep the new players (and some old ones) from playing, make them get out there and play instead of preying on new characters.
Again EVE is a great game, but the Pirates need some control, even the Bounty Sytem does work. I know I'll get some responses about care bare and wining, but again its from the people who prey to make money and stop EVE from growing. lets have war, fight for the right to claim territory and bring in new people to make the equipment and the ships needed for combat not for people to just sit at a gate and wait for new players
Let's see the responses and see if the majority of EVE players agree with me or not.
Thanks for listening.
No. Just no. This is not how things should be.
Even as a "every now and then" carebear, I dont like this idea. -------
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Ana Borisovna
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes EvE is a PvP oriented game where pirating, griefing (not of completely new players) and scamming are allowed.
If you cannot accept anyone of the above features, then EvE is not a game for you.
This is 100% correct. PvP flagging? Hello? This is EVE Online. It's a hardcore game with hardcore risks, that's the point of the game. Yes, it's annnoying getting blown up by pirates, but you need to learn, adapt, adjust. Find new routes. Hire mercs to deal with your pirates. Buy them off. Think, adapt. This is the key to EVE.
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Armoured C
Gallente The Aztecs Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:16:00 -
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by clicking undock you are agreeeing to unconsenual PVP
that the mechanic and you will have to deal with it
how you deal with it is up to you.... leave stay and get used to it , it really doesnt bother me,
and you focus is on the PVe side of the playing field what about the people that enjoy doing that... what do they get out of it
this isn't eve To'max
this is eve online which is not just for yooooo
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kryptteacher
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:17:00 -
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use your in game map. it works wonders. there are tools there to help you avoid the gate camps. sometimes i should listen to my own advice lol. The open pvp is what makes eve what it is. Concord does a reasonable job in high sec. It is up to the players however in anything below .5 . flags work in your avg RPG mmo not in eve.
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Kuranta
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kuranta on 19/07/2008 20:20:24 Since your friends are not playing anymore: Why don't you join them in - just a wild guess - Hello Kitty Online?
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Armoured C
Gallente The Aztecs Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kuranta Edited by: Kuranta on 19/07/2008 20:20:24 Since your friends are not playing anymore: Why don't you join them in - just a wild guess - Hello Kitty Online?
the squishie big headed one
i would advise that aswell
i dont think they have that "pvp" your looking for
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CHAOS100
Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:24:00 -
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in before GO BACK TO WOW --------------
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Kyusoath Orillian
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:25:00 -
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Troll, no doubt about it, the 'sitting' stuff really pushed it over the edge. 8/10
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Ti'tanis
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:33:00 -
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lol. Just like my corp-mates have talked about. It's the same thing. If you like the game to have fewer and fewer new players then thats fine, but in time it will either have to change or another game will take it's place. The things that are keeping this game going is the market/trading part, the wars, and everyone on the same server. What happens is that you get the new people that just stop playing and don't even come to the forums, because only the 'hardcore' gamers do and flame instead of discussing it.
lol too funny . You can still have a combat oriented game, and stop the pirating and gate camping. That's not what this game is about. thats just for people who have nothing better to do, then just wait on a new player or 'carebare' because "I'm the big bad pirate and hardcore gamer.. you should know better shame shame.. boom you're dead"
Then they speak up to say, hey I don't like that and then get told to go play another game. Wow do you want the game to die! Don't tell people to leave, makes you look like a troll for Blizzard or something. We should work on something that works for both and let the game grow so more and more people join up!
When I brought up combat and non-combat flagging I meant for traveling. not being able to mine in someone terroitory, which should automatically flag you. We can have both and for those that say we can't, well I think maybe you are the ones sitting at the gate lol, reading a book or playing another game until someone pops in to pod
The flag is only for traveling through low sectors to reach other areas, not as a free pass to build or fight for control. That's why you declare war.
Flames don't bother me or anyone getting angry becuase they can't camp gates, but I believe they are more people that agree then disagree with me, but just don't come to the formus, because they see they same thing. Someone says lets change this a little and then everyone runs around screaming..saying you don't like leave, go get out of here, this is the way CCP made it to be (which isn't true by the way). They have said over and over that they just can't believe how the game has developed because of the community, how new items brought into the game for one thing, is used by the community for other tings.
Again, EVE is an awesome game and we need to get more and more players in and little changes here and there are what do that.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:40:00 -
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can't tell if the OP is being serious or not
in the event that they are, well, EVE isn't for everyone. ...
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Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:48:00 -
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Posting in an epic thread ----
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente Apocalypse Ponies
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: To'max
gold farmers
Nuff said
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Ti'tanis
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Originally by: To'max
gold farmers
Nuff said
lol like you haven't played another MMO. WoW has over 8 million subs, which is why the term 'Gold Farmers' is heard more and more in formus. If you want the correct words then here they are 'ISK farmers'. Most of the 'blank' farmers play different games and farm all types of currency, but WoW is not the issue, which it seems, you are trying to pull this thread too. Everyone does not play WoW
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Faife
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:58:00 -
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ooooo razin is bypassing the obscenity filter... i'm telling. - -
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Chinger
Caldari Cold Fury Coalition Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Chinger on 19/07/2008 21:03:14
Originally by: Ti'tanis
Again, EVE is an awesome game and we need to get more and more players in and little changes here and there are what do that.
See, heres the thing. It's actually VERY easy to attract new players. All you have to do is copy the successful ideas of those that came before (a la WOW). Sure, we make one concession now which makes eve a little safer, then a few people hop on, then another, and more people come. Pretty soon, we rival WOW in numbers but have changed so much in the name of new recruitment that it's hard to say we are really playing eve anymore.
Edit: oh and, what type of sushi should I get.
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Faife ooooo razin is bypassing the obscenity filter... i'm telling.
Shit!
Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
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Hieronimus Rex
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:10:00 -
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pfft EVE is a carebear game compared to diablo 2 hardcore online.
If you pirates were serious about risk being more fun you'd want permadeath
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Ti'tanis
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Chinger Edited by: Chinger on 19/07/2008 21:03:14
Originally by: Ti'tanis
Again, EVE is an awesome game and we need to get more and more players in and little changes here and there are what do that.
See, heres the thing. It's actually VERY easy to attract new players. All you have to do is copy the successful ideas of those that came before (a la WOW). Sure, we make one concession now which makes eve a little safer, then a few people hop on, then another, and more people come. Pretty soon, we rival WOW in numbers but have changed so much in the name of new recruitment that it's hard to say we are really playing eve anymore.
thanks Chinger for that response. That's what discusses are about, not flaming and always referring to WoW.
I agree I use to play Star Wars Galaxies(SWG) and then they tried to make it like WoW and broke it. Lost over 50% of the people if not more and it's still not able to stand up like it use to, so I know what you mean.
EVE is a combat game and I do not want that to change at all. I've been in pvp battles and wars and love them. I guess I'm just against the gate campers waiting for new players or old returning players trying to find a new home. Even if EVE gave them a couple free days where no one can attack them (unless they attack first), so the returning players can move to a new home and the new players can really visit what EVE has instore for them when they are able to move into the low sectors.
I do agree with ya Chinger change can be bad, but every game has to keep changing to keep up and attract new players. We just don't want to lose what got us into the game to start with.
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Alhambra Rainwalker
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:14:00 -
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OP is either epic troll or just really stupid. I canŠt decide which.
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Forum Guy
Forum Guys
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:15:00 -
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It's not hard to picture what you're wanting from Eve.
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Hyveres
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:16:00 -
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Eve is in fact growing.
It might be growing slowly but it has a solid playerbase where a lot of their players use multiple accounts. Agewise its players seems to be older than most other MMOs as well and I really dont see the problem.
If you dont want pvp , then dont take risks and stick to high sec systems. And yes carrying 1 billion worth of cargo or more in a T1 industrial is taking a huge risk.
Not everyone can cater to the same market and there is a market for a more hardcore audience that prefers brutal PvP with consequences. Judging from what I see ingame eve has hit this market pretty well :)
I'd rather play quality than a spacebased carebearfriendly wowclone.
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Ti'tanis
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Alhambra Rainwalker OP is either epic troll or just really stupid. I canŠt decide which.
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