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Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2008.07.19 21:26:00 - [31] Originally by: Apoctasy Posting in an epic thread Toasting in an epic bread.
Feng Schui Minmatar Ghost Festival	Posted - 2008.07.19 21:27:00 - [32] Edited by: Feng Schui on 19/07/2008 21:27:54 Originally by: Ti'tanis Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Originally by: To'max gold farmers Nuff said lol like you haven't played another MMO. WoW has over 8 million subs, which is why the term 'Gold Farmers' is heard more and more in formus. If you want the correct words then here they are 'ISK farmers'. Most of the 'blank' farmers play different games and farm all types of currency, but WoW is not the issue, which it seems, you are trying to pull this thread too. Everyone does not play WoW wait, you mean WoW was the first ever MMO that people farmed in game currency for real cash? Amazing.. how about you go back to wow, but not before you give me your stuff. kkhtnx. edit: I'm quite sure the term "Gold Farmer" isn't because 90% of all mmorpg's are fantasy-based, and use gold as their currency. It is definately because of WOW. Project:Gank Pilgrim Guide
Hannobaal Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.07.19 21:28:00 - [33] Edited by: Hannobaal on 19/07/2008 21:28:55 Originally by: Ti'tanis Then they speak up to say, hey I don't like that and then get told to go play another game. Wow do you want the game to die! Don't tell people to leave, makes you look like a troll for Blizzard or something. We should work on something that works for both and let the game grow so more and more people join up! Quality over quantity. Edit: And go back to WoW. --------------- I'm not as think as you drunk I am.
Ti'tanis	Posted - 2008.07.19 21:32:00 - [34] Originally by: Feng Schui Edited by: Feng Schui on 19/07/2008 21:27:54 Originally by: Ti'tanis Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Originally by: To'max gold farmers Nuff said lol like you haven't played another MMO. WoW has over 8 million subs, which is why the term 'Gold Farmers' is heard more and more in formus. If you want the correct words then here they are 'ISK farmers'. Most of the 'blank' farmers play different games and farm all types of currency, but WoW is not the issue, which it seems, you are trying to pull this thread too. Everyone does not play WoW wait, you mean WoW was the first ever MMO that people farmed in game currency for real cash? Amazing.. how about you go back to wow, but not before you give me your stuff. kkhtnx. edit: I'm quite sure the term "Gold Farmer" isn't because 90% of all mmorpg's are fantasy-based, and use gold as their currency. It is definately because of WOW. lol I never said WoW was the first MMO my point was that it has so many people playing that the term 'gold farmer' is heard more in the media and on forums then 'ISK farmer'. Anyhow, why do flamers (you know people who disagree with the post and get angry), always try and pull the thread into WoW? Do you really like WoW that much, so everytime you respond in a flame you say it Well this post isn't about WoW, but it does seem like the gate campers are pushing it that way very hard and very fast. At least i see where you stand on the issue.
Feilamya Minmatar Pelennor Swarm Souls of Vengeance	Posted - 2008.07.19 21:35:00 - [35] Unban Garmon! Someone needs to show these failtrolls how it's done!
Johli Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.07.19 21:37:00 - [36]
Ti'tanis	Posted - 2008.07.19 21:44:00 - [37] Originally by: Johli Lol nice touch, but I'm not leaving for a while. I think I'm going to hang in here now and watch the gate camping come to and end. It's already in the works. Edit: if you push hard enough and wait long enough, change will happen.
Sakura Nihil Stimulus	Posted - 2008.07.19 21:46:00 - [38] God no. Get back to WoW where its safe for your kind. Click me! You know you want to...
Juliette Leblanc	Posted - 2008.07.19 21:55:00 - [39] You already have the flagging system. You are either flagged for "PvP allowed" or flagged "no PvP". You toggle that flag by docking/undocking.
Lord Makk The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2008.07.19 22:23:00 - [40] OP's true self! http://static.nettby.no/users/b/o/g/bog1/files/Bilde150.jpg (Hyperlink broke it :/)

Tippia Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.07.19 22:31:00 - [41] Originally by: To'max Hey CCP. EVE is a great game,the only drawback is the Pirates that have been around for too long, just podding people. Incorrect. Pirates don't "just pod people" – there's no profit in it. Quote: If you are not flagged PvP (NonCombat), you should not be attacked. You're flagged the moment you log in. The whole point of ≡v≡ is PvP. It is everywhere, even in the stations. Quote: I've tried to get a good number of other people playing EVE but they all say the same thing, jump gate sitting. It's very cowardly and I believe a lot of the so called 'Pirates' are really just people from other games, trying to scare off players from EVE or SK farmers trying to make some money to sell illegally. Funny that – I haven't come across a single gate camp in my time here. Also, ISK farmers don't camp gates – there's not enough money in it. Quote: If you like the game to have fewer and fewer new players then thats fine, but in time it will either have to change or another game will take it's place. Everything gets replaced in the end. At the moment, however, ≡v≡ is growing in spite of (or perhaps because of) its PvP focus. Quote: When I brought up combat and non-combat flagging I meant for traveling. Why are you travelling? Chances are you're on your way to some activity that entails trying to beat other players – intercepting you on the way is and should be a perfectly acceptable way to beat you. This is your fundamental problem: you don't understand that ≡v≡ is a full-PvP game. At no point are you not in competition with other players. Therefore, the only "no-PvP" flag that makes any sense is the log-off button.
Tzigan Jegos Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.	Posted - 2008.07.19 22:31:00 - [42] op: how about a nice cup of shut the **** up The dog that trots about finds a bone. - Gypsy proverb
Sniper Wolf18 Gallente Apocalypse Ponies	Posted - 2008.07.19 22:42:00 - [43] Dear: [x] Clueless Newbie [x] Loser [ ] Spammer [x] 12 year old [ ] Pervert [ ] Nerd [ ] l337 d00d/"vet" [x] Other: Illegal immigrant [ ] Troll You Are Being Flamed Because [ ] You posted a Nudity thread (anime or normal). [x] You whine like a ***. [ ] You bumped a thread from the last page. [ ] You started an off-topic thread. [x] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message . [ ] You don't know which forum to post in. [x] You posted false information (or lack thereof). [x] You posted something totally uninteresting. [ ] You doubleposted. [ ] You posted a message all written in CAPS (oR aLtErNaTe CaPs). [ ] You posted a X > Y thread. LAME. [x] I don't like your tone of voice. To Repent, You Must: [ ] Give up your AOL Internet account [x] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it [x] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor [x] Actually post something relevant [ ] Be my love slave [x] Apologize to everybody on this forum [x] Go stand in the middle of an intersection In Closing, I'd Like to Say: [ ] Get a life [ ] Never post again [ ] I pity your dog [ ] I think your IQ must be 6 [ ] Take your crap somewhere else [ ] Do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment [ ] Go play Dress-Up Barbie OnlineÖ [x] All of the above I think that helped clear things up
Chinger Caldari Cold Fury Coalition Red Dawn Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.19 22:43:00 - [44] Originally by: Ti'tanis Originally by: Johli Lol nice touch, but I'm not leaving for a while. I think I'm going to hang in here now and watch the gate camping come to and end. It's already in the works. Edit: if you push hard enough and wait long enough, change will happen. Um, just wondering how ending gate camps is already in the works. Also pushing hard for change does not mean change will occur.
Belatu Cadro Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.07.19 22:46:00 - [45] Originally by: Alhambra Rainwalker OP is either epic troll or just really stupid. I can¦t decide which. There's a difference?
Willow Whisp Sadist Faction	Posted - 2008.07.19 22:53:00 - [46] Edited by: Willow Whisp on 19/07/2008 22:54:42 Let's imagine an EVE where pvp flags are active, such as the OP recommends. Suddenly, travel is no longer dangerous. Nor are logistics runs. I can have a fleet of industrial ships all turn their PvE flags, then take a POS into deep enemy territory and deploy it. Furthermore, I can take a freighter full of POS Fuel, or 0.0 loot, enable my PvE flag, and happily carry it to empire without worrying about loosing my goods. Let's take it a step further even still. Now me and my 50 alliance mates decide we are going to attack a POS in a system deep in enemy territory. No worries! Let's take a huge fleet, complete with enough cyno ships to hot-drop a substantial capital fleet, all of us enable our PvE flag, and get to where we are going. There, we can simply get to the system, log off and leave a couple scouts in place (pve flagged, of course, to watch the sytsem) and all log back in with PvP flags when it's opportune to attack. Factional warfare? No worries! Accept your mission, PvE flag yourself until you get to your objective, complete it, and travel back. In complete safety. AFK hauling billions in empire? PvE flag! Lost an engagement deep in enemy territoy and don't want to loose your precious implants? PvE Flag! Got separated from your fleet and want to reach them safely? PvE Flag! Found a rich deposit of Arkonor deep in 0.0? Forget an escort! PvE Flag your Hulk through hostile space until you reach your destination! Got cornered in enemy territory after successfully raiding an enemy home system? PvE Flag your gang! and you can return home in safety! I'm sorry, but this is one of the worst ideas to ever hit the forums -- this is my sig.
Chinger Caldari Cold Fury Coalition Red Dawn Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.19 22:55:00 - [47] Originally by: Willow Whisp Let's imagine an EVE where pvp flags are active, such as the OP recommends. Suddenly, travel is no longer dangerous. Nor are logistics runs. I can have a fleet of industrial ships all turn their PvE flags, then take a POS into deep enemy territory and deploy it. Furthermore, I can take a freighter full of POS Fuel, or 0.0 loot, enable my PvE flag, and happily carry it to empire without worrying about loosing my goods. Let's take it a step further even still. Now me and my 50 alliance mates decide we are going to attack a POS in a system deep in enemy territory. No worries! Let's take a huge fleet, complete with enough cyno ships to hot-drop a substantial capital fleet, all of us enable our PvE flag, and get to where we are going. There, we can simply get to the system, log off and leave a couple scouts in place (pve flagged, of course, to watch the sytsem) and all log back in with PvP flags when it's opportune to attack. Factional warfare? No worries! Accept your mission, PvE flag yourself until you get to your objective, complete it, and travel back. In complete safety. AFK hauling billions in empire? PvE flag! Lost an engagement deep in enemy territoy and don't want to loose your precious implants? PvE Flag! Got separated from your fleet and want to reach them safely? PvE Flag! Found a rich deposit of Arkonor deep in 0.0? Forget an escort! PvE Flag your Hulk through hostile space until you reach your destination! Got cornered in enemy territory after successfully raiding an enemy home system? PvE Flag your gang! and you can return home in safety! This.
sesanti Minmatar Universal Exports FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.07.20 00:07:00 - [48] To the OP - take it to the CSM - post the "issue" there. _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster - <I am a guy... never mind the portrait>
Napro Caldari SoulWing Alliance	Posted - 2008.07.20 00:12:00 - [49] Actually, CCP did add a nifty feature to deal with these so called pirates. If you head over to the market window, you can purchase what are called "weapons". You know those slots that you typically fit Mining Lasers too? They can also accept these so called weapons. When you are attacked by a ship, lock it,then click the "weapon" module. It will begin flashing green. This means its anti-pirate effect is at work.
Yelan Zhou Amarr Hedion University	Posted - 2008.07.20 00:29:00 - [50] Edited by: Yelan Zhou on 20/07/2008 00:29:21 Iam very new to EvE and I would go away if things like the OP wants are implemented. The always present danger is one of the main reasons i stay. War, War never changes.

Zurrar Gallente Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2008.07.20 00:30:00 - [51] HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA breaths HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA gasps for air HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA passes out Originally by: Malcanis CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Ana Borisovna Caldari	Posted - 2008.07.20 01:17:00 - [52] Originally by: Ti'tanis lol too funny . You can still have a combat oriented game, and stop the pirating and gate camping. That's not what this game is about. thats just for people who have nothing better to do Eh, no. I am not a pirate, but I can tell you very plainly that piracy and gate camping are both core, central to the gameplay of EVE. Travel is not intended to be risk free, particularly in low sec and nullsec space. That's the whole point of the security rating system among a whole host of other mechanics and map design choices made by CCP. I remember the first time I ran into a real gatecamp. It was back in 2004, and I was running some stuff (including some BPOs) from some labs I had in Solitude at the time back to the main Empire space through lowsec Aridia. I actually made it through that gatecamp (this was long before the nerfs on WCS), but boy did it get the blood flowing. They chased me for a few systems before leaving off. It was great! This is a core gameplay mechanic of EVE Online. It will never be the case that travel through lowsec space is made safe for people who want to transit goods, get to mission sites and the like -- the whole game is designed around the fact that space under 0.5 is increasingly dangerous.
Billy Sastard Amarr Life. Universe. Everything.	Posted - 2008.07.20 01:24:00 - [53] I don't think the OP 'gets' EVE.... -=^=-
BoBoZoBo Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.07.20 02:53:00 - [54] This game is clearly not for you. You do not understand the roots of I game. ========================= Minister of Propaganda - Operator 9
Todd Jaeger Body Count Inc. The Requiem	Posted - 2008.07.20 02:59:00 - [55] Holy shit, go away
Blue Disk	Posted - 2008.07.20 03:03:00 - [56] Who are these fools who get podded constantly? There's a huge amount of 0.5+ space for the non-PvP people, and I've passed through lowsec thousands of times and I've never been attacked unless I hung around. I've been playing Eve for 6 months as a carebear running missions and I've never been podded. I got gate ganked once, on my first trek out to 0.4, cuz I hung around after jumping in and I was in a weak frigate. I also got attacked the first time I was ratting in 0.4, in a destroyer. I learned what to do and not to do quickly. I haven't been attacked once since those first two incidents. And I didn't venture out there until I could afford to lose what I had. Basically, Eve is a very safe world if you play it smart. Follow the tutorials, read the instructions, learn about the world around you.
Saint Lazarus C R Y O	Posted - 2008.07.20 03:04:00 - [57] lawl dont think the OP quite gets EvE Doubt its a troll too, but I was wrong once before back in 1987 -----------------
Darek Castigatus	Posted - 2008.07.20 03:20:00 - [58] kinda funny that you post something which would make mining and hauling immesurably easier........when your bio says youre a miner/hauler!! Coincidence, you be the judge
Eternal Error Exitus Acta Probant	Posted - 2008.07.20 03:26:00 - [59] I really think this guy is a troll, what he's suggesting sounds like my very limited understanding of the WoW combat system. In the event that you are not a troll... no. Go die in a fire.
Gonada Gallente	Posted - 2008.07.20 03:52:00 - [60] Edited by: Gonada on 20/07/2008 03:52:11 dear OP. I hate you. I hate your pathetic type. I hate you're pascifistic tendancies I hate the fact that 9 million carebears play WoW, then once they tire of getting that game nerfed into oblivion they move to the next game and want to nerf the hell out of that game as well. please , OP , read my sig and act on it, the world does not need people like you. Please, jump into traffic



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