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To'max
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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:51:00 -
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Hey CCP. EVE is a great game,the only drawback is the Pirates that have been around for too long, just podding people. I started my account back-up with the 14 day free trial to check out the updates. Great I really like whats happening, but a lot and I mean a lot of my friends do not play anymore becuase of the Pirating going on. If you are not flagged PvP (NonCombat), you should not be attacked.
The flag could turn on automaticly if you started mining in a system that is below 0.5, in a war with another corp, or a number of other ways, but just for a new person (or even an old player trying to move his ships) to travel between systems to get podded.. Just bad business.
I've tried to get a good number of other people playing EVE but they all say the same thing, jump gate sitting. It's very cowardly and I believe a lot of the so called 'Pirates' are really just people from other games, trying to scare off players from EVE or SK farmers trying to make some money to sell illegally.
I had 3 accounts at one time, but after my corp with over 300 players started dropping and just stopped playing because of jump gate sitting and other reasons (mainly pirates), I stopped also.
Please do something about these people and put in a Combat/Non-Combat flagging system. They are just as bad as the gold farmers and hurt CCP revenue just as bad. I'm sure you have heard this before, with all the other post about the same subject matter, and if you notice it's the same players responding.
Please let EvE grow into the game that is can be, stop the SK Farmers (Pirates) and stop the people who keep the new players (and some old ones) from playing, make them get out there and play instead of preying on new characters.
Again EVE is a great game, but the Pirates need some control, even the Bounty Sytem does work. I know I'll get some responses about care bare and wining, but again its from the people who prey to make money and stop EVE from growing. lets have war, fight for the right to claim territory and bring in new people to make the equipment and the ships needed for combat not for people to just sit at a gate and wait for new players 
Let's see the responses and see if the majority of EVE players agree with me or not.
Thanks for listening.
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Zephyr Rengate
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:52:00 -
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/hug
 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
I will not liek human meat but the naerest I tried is human chesse. I don't want to tried again ...
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justsometrader
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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:53:00 -
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if you dont kknow what a flame is...you will now learn pretty quick 
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Hannobaal
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:53:00 -
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*sigh*
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Leneerra
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.07.19 19:58:00 -
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There is this small pvp flag button in the station. I believe that if you hover your mouse over it the tooltip refers to it as the undock function.
This 'flag' lasts about as long as it takes you to get to another station (regardless of actual means of travel 
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:00:00 -
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
Imperial Servants
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:00:00 -
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EvE is a PvP oriented game where pirating, griefing (not of completely new players) and scamming are allowed.
If you cannot accept anyone of the above features, then EvE is not a game for you. I do hope you and your friends learn to like the game as it is, but you have to accept the harshness of it.
Anyways, you have to make a choise 
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Foulque
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:03:00 -
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"you're never safe" is what makes this game actually interesting.
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari
Ma'adim Logistics
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: To'max
Hey CCP. EVE is a great game,the only drawback is the Pirates that have been around for too long, just podding people. I started my account back-up with the 14 day free trial to check out the updates. Great I really like whats happening, but a lot and I mean a lot of my friends do not play anymore becuase of the Pirating going on. If you are not flagged PvP (NonCombat), you should not be attacked.
The flag could turn on automaticly if you started mining in a system that is below 0.5, in a war with another corp, or a number of other ways, but just for a new person (or even an old player trying to move his ships) to travel between systems to get podded.. Just bad business.
I've tried to get a good number of other people playing EVE but they all say the same thing, jump gate sitting. It's very cowardly and I believe a lot of the so called 'Pirates' are really just people from other games, trying to scare off players from EVE or SK farmers trying to make some money to sell illegally.
I had 3 accounts at one time, but after my corp with over 300 players started dropping and just stopped playing because of jump gate sitting and other reasons (mainly pirates), I stopped also.
Please do something about these people and put in a Combat/Non-Combat flagging system. They are just as bad as the gold farmers and hurt CCP revenue just as bad. I'm sure you have heard this before, with all the other post about the same subject matter, and if you notice it's the same players responding.
Please let EvE grow into the game that is can be, stop the SK Farmers (Pirates) and stop the people who keep the new players (and some old ones) from playing, make them get out there and play instead of preying on new characters.
Again EVE is a great game, but the Pirates need some control, even the Bounty Sytem does work. I know I'll get some responses about care bare and wining, but again its from the people who prey to make money and stop EVE from growing. lets have war, fight for the right to claim territory and bring in new people to make the equipment and the ships needed for combat not for people to just sit at a gate and wait for new players
Let's see the responses and see if the majority of EVE players agree with me or not.
Thanks for listening.
No. Just no. This is not how things should be.
Even as a "every now and then" carebear, I dont like this idea.
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Ana Borisovna
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
EvE is a PvP oriented game where pirating, griefing (not of completely new players) and scamming are allowed.
If you cannot accept anyone of the above features, then EvE is not a game for you.
This is 100% correct. PvP flagging? Hello? This is EVE Online. It's a hardcore game with hardcore risks, that's the point of the game. Yes, it's annnoying getting blown up by pirates, but you need to learn, adapt, adjust. Find new routes. Hire mercs to deal with your pirates. Buy them off. Think, adapt. This is the key to EVE.
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Armoured C
Gallente
The Aztecs
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:16:00 -
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by clicking undock you are agreeeing to unconsenual PVP
that the mechanic and you will have to deal with it
how you deal with it is up to you.... leave stay and get used to it , it really doesnt bother me,
and you focus is on the PVe side of the playing field what about the people that enjoy doing that... what do they get out of it
this isn't eve To'max
this is eve online which is not just for yooooo
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kryptteacher
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:17:00 -
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use your in game map. it works wonders. there are tools there to help you avoid the gate camps. sometimes i should listen to my own advice lol. The open pvp is what makes eve what it is. Concord does a reasonable job in high sec. It is up to the players however in anything below .5 . flags work in your avg RPG mmo not in eve.
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Kuranta
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Kuranta on 19/07/2008 20:20:24
Since your friends are not playing anymore: Why don't you join them in - just a wild guess - Hello Kitty Online?
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Armoured C
Gallente
The Aztecs
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kuranta
Edited by: Kuranta on 19/07/2008 20:20:24
Since your friends are not playing anymore: Why don't you join them in - just a wild guess - Hello Kitty Online?
the squishie big headed one
i would advise that aswell
i dont think they have that "pvp" your looking for
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CHAOS100
Black Plague.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:24:00 -
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in before GO BACK TO WOW
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Kyusoath Orillian
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:25:00 -
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Troll, no doubt about it, the 'sitting' stuff really pushed it over the edge.
8/10
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Ti'tanis
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:33:00 -
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lol. Just like my corp-mates have talked about. It's the same thing. If you like the game to have fewer and fewer new players then thats fine, but in time it will either have to change or another game will take it's place. The things that are keeping this game going is the market/trading part, the wars, and everyone on the same server. What happens is that you get the new people that just stop playing and don't even come to the forums, because only the 'hardcore' gamers do and flame instead of discussing it.
lol too funny . You can still have a combat oriented game, and stop the pirating and gate camping. That's not what this game is about. thats just for people who have nothing better to do, then just wait on a new player or 'carebare' because "I'm the big bad pirate and hardcore gamer.. you should know better shame shame.. boom you're dead" 
Then they speak up to say, hey I don't like that and then get told to go play another game. Wow do you want the game to die! Don't tell people to leave, makes you look like a troll for Blizzard or something. We should work on something that works for both and let the game grow so more and more people join up! 
When I brought up combat and non-combat flagging I meant for traveling. not being able to mine in someone terroitory, which should automatically flag you. We can have both and for those that say we can't, well I think maybe you are the ones sitting at the gate lol, reading a book or playing another game until someone pops in to pod 
The flag is only for traveling through low sectors to reach other areas, not as a free pass to build or fight for control. That's why you declare war.
Flames don't bother me or anyone getting angry becuase they can't camp gates, but I believe they are more people that agree then disagree with me, but just don't come to the formus, because they see they same thing. Someone says lets change this a little and then everyone runs around screaming..saying you don't like leave, go get out of here, this is the way CCP made it to be (which isn't true by the way). They have said over and over that they just can't believe how the game has developed because of the community, how new items brought into the game for one thing, is used by the community for other tings.
Again, EVE is an awesome game and we need to get more and more players in and little changes here and there are what do that.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:40:00 -
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can't tell if the OP is being serious or not 
in the event that they are, well, EVE isn't for everyone.
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Apoctasy
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:48:00 -
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Posting in an epic thread
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
Apocalypse Ponies
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: To'max
gold farmers
Nuff said
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Ti'tanis
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Originally by: To'max
gold farmers
Nuff said
lol like you haven't played another MMO. WoW has over 8 million subs, which is why the term 'Gold Farmers' is heard more and more in formus. If you want the correct words then here they are 'ISK farmers'. Most of the 'blank' farmers play different games and farm all types of currency, but WoW is not the issue, which it seems, you are trying to pull this thread too. Everyone does not play WoW
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Faife
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.07.19 20:58:00 -
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ooooo razin is bypassing the obscenity filter... i'm telling.
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Chinger
Caldari
Cold Fury Coalition
Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Chinger on 19/07/2008 21:03:14
Originally by: Ti'tanis
Again, EVE is an awesome game and we need to get more and more players in and little changes here and there are what do that.
See, heres the thing. It's actually VERY easy to attract new players. All you have to do is copy the successful ideas of those that came before (a la WOW). Sure, we make one concession now which makes eve a little safer, then a few people hop on, then another, and more people come. Pretty soon, we rival WOW in numbers but have changed so much in the name of new recruitment that it's hard to say we are really playing eve anymore.
Edit: oh and, what type of sushi should I get.
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Tamia Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
ooooo razin is bypassing the obscenity filter... i'm telling.
Shit!
Looking for queue-free research slots? Click here!
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Hieronimus Rex
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:10:00 -
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pfft EVE is a carebear game compared to diablo 2 hardcore online.
If you pirates were serious about risk being more fun you'd want permadeath
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Ti'tanis
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Chinger
Edited by: Chinger on 19/07/2008 21:03:14
Originally by: Ti'tanis
Again, EVE is an awesome game and we need to get more and more players in and little changes here and there are what do that.
See, heres the thing. It's actually VERY easy to attract new players. All you have to do is copy the successful ideas of those that came before (a la WOW). Sure, we make one concession now which makes eve a little safer, then a few people hop on, then another, and more people come. Pretty soon, we rival WOW in numbers but have changed so much in the name of new recruitment that it's hard to say we are really playing eve anymore.
thanks Chinger for that response. That's what discusses are about, not flaming and always referring to WoW.
I agree I use to play Star Wars Galaxies(SWG) and then they tried to make it like WoW and broke it. Lost over 50% of the people if not more and it's still not able to stand up like it use to, so I know what you mean.
EVE is a combat game and I do not want that to change at all. I've been in pvp battles and wars and love them. I guess I'm just against the gate campers waiting for new players or old returning players trying to find a new home. Even if EVE gave them a couple free days where no one can attack them (unless they attack first), so the returning players can move to a new home and the new players can really visit what EVE has instore for them when they are able to move into the low sectors.
I do agree with ya Chinger change can be bad, but every game has to keep changing to keep up and attract new players. We just don't want to lose what got us into the game to start with.
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Alhambra Rainwalker
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:14:00 -
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OP is either epic troll or just really stupid. I canŠt decide which.
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Forum Guy
Forum Guys
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:15:00 -
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It's not hard to picture what you're wanting from Eve.
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Hyveres
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:16:00 -
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Eve is in fact growing.
It might be growing slowly but it has a solid playerbase where a lot of their players use multiple accounts. Agewise its players seems to be older than most other MMOs as well and I really dont see the problem.
If you dont want pvp , then dont take risks and stick to high sec systems. And yes carrying 1 billion worth of cargo or more in a T1 industrial is taking a huge risk.
Not everyone can cater to the same market and there is a market for a more hardcore audience that prefers brutal PvP with consequences. Judging from what I see ingame eve has hit this market pretty well :)
I'd rather play quality than a spacebased carebearfriendly wowclone.
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Ti'tanis
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Alhambra Rainwalker
OP is either epic troll or just really stupid. I canŠt decide which.
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Apoctasy
Posting in an epic thread
Toasting in an epic bread.
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Feng Schui
Minmatar
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: Feng Schui on 19/07/2008 21:27:54
Originally by: Ti'tanis
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Originally by: To'max
gold farmers
Nuff said
lol like you haven't played another MMO. WoW has over 8 million subs, which is why the term 'Gold Farmers' is heard more and more in formus. If you want the correct words then here they are 'ISK farmers'. Most of the 'blank' farmers play different games and farm all types of currency, but WoW is not the issue, which it seems, you are trying to pull this thread too. Everyone does not play WoW
wait, you mean WoW was the first ever MMO that people farmed in game currency for real cash? Amazing..
how about you go back to wow, but not before you give me your stuff. kkhtnx.
edit: I'm quite sure the term "Gold Farmer" isn't because 90% of all mmorpg's are fantasy-based, and use gold as their currency. It is definately because of WOW.
Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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Hannobaal
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Hannobaal on 19/07/2008 21:28:55
Originally by: Ti'tanis
Then they speak up to say, hey I don't like that and then get told to go play another game. Wow do you want the game to die! Don't tell people to leave, makes you look like a troll for Blizzard or something. We should work on something that works for both and let the game grow so more and more people join up!
Quality over quantity.
Edit: And go back to WoW.
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Ti'tanis
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Feng Schui
Edited by: Feng Schui on 19/07/2008 21:27:54
Originally by: Ti'tanis
Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Originally by: To'max
gold farmers
Nuff said
lol like you haven't played another MMO. WoW has over 8 million subs, which is why the term 'Gold Farmers' is heard more and more in formus. If you want the correct words then here they are 'ISK farmers'. Most of the 'blank' farmers play different games and farm all types of currency, but WoW is not the issue, which it seems, you are trying to pull this thread too. Everyone does not play WoW
wait, you mean WoW was the first ever MMO that people farmed in game currency for real cash? Amazing..
how about you go back to wow, but not before you give me your stuff. kkhtnx.
edit: I'm quite sure the term "Gold Farmer" isn't because 90% of all mmorpg's are fantasy-based, and use gold as their currency. It is definately because of WOW.
lol I never said WoW was the first MMO my point was that it has so many people playing that the term 'gold farmer' is heard more in the media and on forums then 'ISK farmer'. Anyhow, why do flamers (you know people who disagree with the post and get angry), always try and pull the thread into WoW? Do you really like WoW that much, so everytime you respond in a flame you say it Well this post isn't about WoW, but it does seem like the gate campers are pushing it that way very hard and very fast. At least i see where you stand on the issue.
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Feilamya
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:35:00 -
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Unban Garmon!
Someone needs to show these failtrolls how it's done!
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Johli
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:37:00 -
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Ti'tanis
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Johli
Lol nice touch, but I'm not leaving for a while. I think I'm going to hang in here now and watch the gate camping come to and end. It's already in the works.
Edit: if you push hard enough and wait long enough, change will happen.
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Sakura Nihil
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:46:00 -
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God no.
Get back to WoW where its safe for your kind.
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Juliette Leblanc
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Posted - 2008.07.19 21:55:00 -
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You already have the flagging system.
You are either flagged for "PvP allowed" or flagged "no PvP".
You toggle that flag by docking/undocking.
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Lord Makk
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:23:00 -
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OP's true self!
http://static.nettby.no/users/b/o/g/bog1/files/Bilde150.jpg
(Hyperlink broke it :/)
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: To'max
Hey CCP. EVE is a great game,the only drawback is the Pirates that have been around for too long, just podding people.
Incorrect. Pirates don't "just pod people" – there's no profit in it. Quote:
If you are not flagged PvP (NonCombat), you should not be attacked.
You're flagged the moment you log in. The whole point of ≡v≡ is PvP. It is everywhere, even in the stations. Quote:
I've tried to get a good number of other people playing EVE but they all say the same thing, jump gate sitting. It's very cowardly and I believe a lot of the so called 'Pirates' are really just people from other games, trying to scare off players from EVE or SK farmers trying to make some money to sell illegally.
Funny that – I haven't come across a single gate camp in my time here. Also, ISK farmers don't camp gates – there's not enough money in it.
Quote:
If you like the game to have fewer and fewer new players then thats fine, but in time it will either have to change or another game will take it's place.
Everything gets replaced in the end. At the moment, however, ≡v≡ is growing in spite of (or perhaps because of) its PvP focus. Quote:
When I brought up combat and non-combat flagging I meant for traveling.
Why are you travelling? Chances are you're on your way to some activity that entails trying to beat other players – intercepting you on the way is and should be a perfectly acceptable way to beat you.
This is your fundamental problem: you don't understand that ≡v≡ is a full-PvP game. At no point are you not in competition with other players. Therefore, the only "no-PvP" flag that makes any sense is the log-off button.
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Tzigan Jegos
Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:31:00 -
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op:
how about a nice cup
of shut the **** up
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
Apocalypse Ponies
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:42:00 -
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Dear:
[x] Clueless Newbie
[x] Loser
[ ] Spammer
[x] 12 year old
[ ] Pervert
[ ] Nerd
[ ] l337 d00d/"vet"
[x] Other: Illegal immigrant
[ ] Troll
You Are Being Flamed Because
[ ] You posted a Nudity thread (anime or normal).
[x] You whine like a ***.
[ ] You bumped a thread from the last page.
[ ] You started an off-topic thread.
[x] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message .
[ ] You don't know which forum to post in.
[x] You posted false information (or lack thereof).
[x] You posted something totally uninteresting.
[ ] You doubleposted.
[ ] You posted a message all written in CAPS (oR aLtErNaTe CaPs).
[ ] You posted a X > Y thread. LAME.
[x] I don't like your tone of voice.
To Repent, You Must:
[ ] Give up your AOL Internet account
[x] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it
[x] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor
[x] Actually post something relevant
[ ] Be my love slave
[x] Apologize to everybody on this forum
[x] Go stand in the middle of an intersection
In Closing, I'd Like to Say:
[ ] Get a life
[ ] Never post again
[ ] I pity your dog
[ ] I think your IQ must be 6
[ ] Take your crap somewhere else
[ ] Do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment
[ ] Go play Dress-Up Barbie OnlineÖ
[x] All of the above
I think that helped clear things up
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Chinger
Caldari
Cold Fury Coalition
Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ti'tanis
Originally by: Johli
Lol nice touch, but I'm not leaving for a while. I think I'm going to hang in here now and watch the gate camping come to and end. It's already in the works.
Edit: if you push hard enough and wait long enough, change will happen.
Um, just wondering how ending gate camps is already in the works. Also pushing hard for change does not mean change will occur.
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Belatu Cadro
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Alhambra Rainwalker
OP is either epic troll or just really stupid. I canŠt decide which.
There's a difference?
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Willow Whisp
Sadist Faction
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: Willow Whisp on 19/07/2008 22:54:42
Let's imagine an EVE where pvp flags are active, such as the OP recommends.
Suddenly, travel is no longer dangerous. Nor are logistics runs.
I can have a fleet of industrial ships all turn their PvE flags, then take a POS into deep enemy territory and deploy it.
Furthermore, I can take a freighter full of POS Fuel, or 0.0 loot, enable my PvE flag, and happily carry it to empire without worrying about loosing my goods.
Let's take it a step further even still.
Now me and my 50 alliance mates decide we are going to attack a POS in a system deep in enemy territory.
No worries! Let's take a huge fleet, complete with enough cyno ships to hot-drop a substantial capital fleet, all of us enable our PvE flag, and get to where we are going. There, we can simply get to the system, log off and leave a couple scouts in place (pve flagged, of course, to watch the sytsem) and all log back in with PvP flags when it's opportune to attack.
Factional warfare? No worries! Accept your mission, PvE flag yourself until you get to your objective, complete it, and travel back. In complete safety.
AFK hauling billions in empire? PvE flag!
Lost an engagement deep in enemy territoy and don't want to loose your precious implants? PvE Flag!
Got separated from your fleet and want to reach them safely? PvE Flag!
Found a rich deposit of Arkonor deep in 0.0? Forget an escort! PvE Flag your Hulk through hostile space until you reach your destination!
Got cornered in enemy territory after successfully raiding an enemy home system? PvE Flag your gang! and you can return home in safety!
I'm sorry, but this is one of the worst ideas to ever hit the forums
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Chinger
Caldari
Cold Fury Coalition
Red Dawn Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.19 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Willow Whisp
Let's imagine an EVE where pvp flags are active, such as the OP recommends.
Suddenly, travel is no longer dangerous. Nor are logistics runs.
I can have a fleet of industrial ships all turn their PvE flags, then take a POS into deep enemy territory and deploy it.
Furthermore, I can take a freighter full of POS Fuel, or 0.0 loot, enable my PvE flag, and happily carry it to empire without worrying about loosing my goods.
Let's take it a step further even still.
Now me and my 50 alliance mates decide we are going to attack a POS in a system deep in enemy territory.
No worries! Let's take a huge fleet, complete with enough cyno ships to hot-drop a substantial capital fleet, all of us enable our PvE flag, and get to where we are going. There, we can simply get to the system, log off and leave a couple scouts in place (pve flagged, of course, to watch the sytsem) and all log back in with PvP flags when it's opportune to attack.
Factional warfare? No worries! Accept your mission, PvE flag yourself until you get to your objective, complete it, and travel back. In complete safety.
AFK hauling billions in empire? PvE flag!
Lost an engagement deep in enemy territoy and don't want to loose your precious implants? PvE Flag!
Got separated from your fleet and want to reach them safely? PvE Flag!
Found a rich deposit of Arkonor deep in 0.0? Forget an escort! PvE Flag your Hulk through hostile space until you reach your destination!
Got cornered in enemy territory after successfully raiding an enemy home system? PvE Flag your gang! and you can return home in safety!
This.
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sesanti
Minmatar
Universal Exports
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.07.20 00:07:00 -
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To the OP - take it to the CSM - post the "issue" there.
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Napro
Caldari
SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.20 00:12:00 -
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Actually, CCP did add a nifty feature to deal with these so called pirates.
If you head over to the market window, you can purchase what are called "weapons".
You know those slots that you typically fit Mining Lasers too? They can also accept these so called weapons.
When you are attacked by a ship, lock it,then click the "weapon" module. It will begin flashing green. This means its anti-pirate effect is at work.
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Yelan Zhou
Amarr
Hedion University
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Posted - 2008.07.20 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: Yelan Zhou on 20/07/2008 00:29:21
Iam very new to EvE and I would go away if things like the OP wants are implemented.
The always present danger is one of the main reasons i stay.
War, War never changes.
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Zurrar
Gallente
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2008.07.20 00:30:00 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *breaths* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *gasps for air* HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *passes out*
Originally by: Malcanis
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
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Ana Borisovna
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.20 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ti'tanis
lol too funny . You can still have a combat oriented game, and stop the pirating and gate camping. That's not what this game is about. thats just for people who have nothing better to do
Eh, no. I am not a pirate, but I can tell you very plainly that piracy and gate camping are both core, central to the gameplay of EVE. Travel is not intended to be risk free, particularly in low sec and nullsec space. That's the whole point of the security rating system among a whole host of other mechanics and map design choices made by CCP.
I remember the first time I ran into a real gatecamp. It was back in 2004, and I was running some stuff (including some BPOs) from some labs I had in Solitude at the time back to the main Empire space through lowsec Aridia. I actually made it through that gatecamp (this was long before the nerfs on WCS), but boy did it get the blood flowing. They chased me for a few systems before leaving off. It was great! This is a core gameplay mechanic of EVE Online. It will never be the case that travel through lowsec space is made safe for people who want to transit goods, get to mission sites and the like -- the whole game is designed around the fact that space under 0.5 is increasingly dangerous.
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
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Posted - 2008.07.20 01:24:00 -
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I don't think the OP 'gets' EVE....
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BoBoZoBo
Foundation
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.07.20 02:53:00 -
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This game is clearly not for you. You do not understand the roots of I game.
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Todd Jaeger
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.20 02:59:00 -
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Holy shit, go away
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Blue Disk
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Posted - 2008.07.20 03:03:00 -
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Who are these fools who get podded constantly? There's a huge amount of 0.5+ space for the non-PvP people, and I've passed through lowsec thousands of times and I've never been attacked unless I hung around.
I've been playing Eve for 6 months as a carebear running missions and I've never been podded. I got gate ganked once, on my first trek out to 0.4, cuz I hung around after jumping in and I was in a weak frigate. I also got attacked the first time I was ratting in 0.4, in a destroyer. I learned what to do and not to do quickly. I haven't been attacked once since those first two incidents. And I didn't venture out there until I could afford to lose what I had.
Basically, Eve is a very safe world if you play it smart. Follow the tutorials, read the instructions, learn about the world around you.
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Saint Lazarus
C R Y O
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Posted - 2008.07.20 03:04:00 -
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lawl dont think the OP quite gets EvE
Doubt its a troll too, but I was wrong once before back in 1987
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Darek Castigatus
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Posted - 2008.07.20 03:20:00 -
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kinda funny that you post something which would make mining and hauling immesurably easier........when your bio says youre a miner/hauler!!
Coincidence, you be the judge
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Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
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Posted - 2008.07.20 03:26:00 -
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I really think this guy is a troll, what he's suggesting sounds like my very limited understanding of the WoW combat system.
In the event that you are not a troll...
no. Go die in a fire.
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Gonada
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.07.20 03:52:00 -
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Edited by: Gonada on 20/07/2008 03:52:11
dear OP.
I hate you.
I hate your pathetic type.
I hate you're pascifistic tendancies
I hate the fact that 9 million carebears play WoW, then once they tire of getting that game nerfed into oblivion they move to the next game and want to nerf the hell out of that game as well.
please , OP , read my sig and act on it, the world does not need people like you.
Please, jump into traffic
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nutbar
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.07.20 03:59:00 -
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You want to play EVE without "PVP" (and I won't sit here and argue that market trading and crap is PVP)? I've been playing EVE for quite a while - almost 3 years. I can *ASSURE* you that after a year of playing eve without any PVP you WILL get bored of the game.
Having a flag to toggle PVP on or off is an interesting, yet stupid idea. They want EVE to resemble some sort of "space realism" (check out how many RPers are in EVE - it's like nerd central), and in such a toggle to turn PVP on or off just doesn't make sense.
Now, if you could walk around in RL and turn off PVP and have it work for you, then by all means ask CCP for the same thing. This isn't WOW or whatever where you just log on to a PVE server and enjoy your "EVE experience" without a care in the world of being shot at.
Try some PVP, it's fun. Stealing loot from wrecks is PVP, and don't tell me you haven't even tried that once.
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Tai Paktu
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.20 04:25:00 -
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7.5/10.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Terianna Eri Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.20 05:17:00 -
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I like how most people seem to have overlooked the "automatically disable flag in <0.5 space, or when at war, or when you have canflipped, etc" bit of the OP.
nevertheless, two things
1) no
2) lol?
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Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.20 05:46:00 -
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0/10, would not get trolled again.
Seriously? There's a big pvp flag button, you press it every time you exit a station.
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Flamewave
Crimson Moon Society
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Posted - 2008.07.20 05:55:00 -
[65]
There's always been a PVP flag in Eve.
See?
Press that button and the PVP goes away.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.08.17 14:50:00 -
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pvp optional eve would bring in millions of players
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Xindi Kraid
Kraid Salvaging
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Posted - 2008.08.17 14:54:00 -
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/me smacks OP for being overly obtuse.
More intelligent flying less stupid whining please.
The eve map has a feature to show number of kills in a system as well as people in system. Know whats happening before you get there. Also when you go to low sec you WILL be podded. It won't happen everyday (unless you;re stupid enough to walk into it)
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.17 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira
pvp optional eve would bring in millions of players
Nice set of necro post, idiot.
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar
The Paratwa
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.08.17 14:57:00 -
[69]
To OP: Try WoW or one of the other clones, they have optional PvP there with no risk too!
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.08.17 15:08:00 -
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The op thinks the best way to get people to join a game that people play for its non-consensual pvp is remove non-consensual pvp.
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