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Jykoth
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Posted - 2008.07.20 23:24:00 -
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I've been trying to decide on a PvP ship for my Amarrian alt that's got the general effect on my enemies of "Oh crap, oh crap, what do I do?" but haven't been able to come across one yet. I'm currently flying a Zealot, and the next logical step is an Absolution, but after that? T1 battleships? Meh. Everyone flies those. Navy Apoc? Played around with it in EFT and couldn't find any real good reason to spend an extra 300M over it than an Abaddon. T2 battleships? Sure, if people can give me a convincing case to use one. I toyed with the idea of starting to train towards a Paladin, and they do look pretty good...ideas?
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.07.20 23:29:00 -
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Geddon abaddon and curse are probably our most oh shit type ships.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.20 23:29:00 -
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Geddon, 3x heat sinks, conflag, berserker II's
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Malaan Tabfassh
The Flowing Penguins
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Posted - 2008.07.20 23:33:00 -
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Geddon :)
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KayaYautja
Caldari Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.07.20 23:46:00 -
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I'd say Curse, When I see a Geddon I don't say 'Oh shit', When I see a Baddon I think 'This could be close' but when I see a Curse, Unless I have a sure fire way to Overcome it, I avoid it  ---
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Khraunus
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Posted - 2008.07.20 23:52:00 -
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The Curse can melt phaces.
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.07.21 00:00:00 -
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curse, fly the sentinel first so that you can get a general feel as to how that kind of ship flies (trust me the mistakes you make will be much much much cheaper)
Originally by: Siddy
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James Danneau
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Posted - 2008.07.21 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Khraunus The Curse can melt phaces.
Hence the reason he wears that hood! 
But yea deffo Curse ...
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Byzan Zwyth
H A V O C The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.07.21 01:53:00 -
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Amarr ships seem to be pretty well off these days. Really depends what you want to do...
Apoc - is pretty awesome for fleet with it's new bonuses Geddon - great for the close range stuff, fit pulse, boosters, like 3 heat sinks and a HP buffer tank 4 fun Sig removed. Lacks EVE related content. For more information feel free to contact [email protected]. ~Saint |

Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jykoth I've been trying to decide on a PvP ship for my Amarrian alt that's got the general effect on my enemies of "Oh crap, oh crap, what do I do?" but haven't been able to come across one yet. I'm currently flying a Zealot, and the next logical step is an Absolution, but after that? T1 battleships? Meh. Everyone flies those. Navy Apoc? Played around with it in EFT and couldn't find any real good reason to spend an extra 300M over it than an Abaddon. T2 battleships? Sure, if people can give me a convincing case to use one. I toyed with the idea of starting to train towards a Paladin, and they do look pretty good...ideas?
PvP amarr? Abso is mediciore at best - you cann just evade it. Zealot is insanely good (one of best HACs now in game for roaming gangs) Harbinger is decent (mind you i dont fly t1 ships except BS) Geddon is powerhorse - good for everything Apoc is "teh snypa" - one of best fleet ships in game Abaddon? ugh. dont like it
Redeemer is total joke, evade it Paladin is uber at missions, for PvP use geddon.
There is also a Nightmare but its mostly PvE ship (tho they work in PvP). Navypoc is just crap. No point in using it over normal poc (unless you want it for missions and are a noob without t2 guns - then range bonus might help a bit).
So pretty much: zealot/sacri, curse (tho zealot/sac are much better in roaming gangs), geddon, apoc.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.21 02:57:00 -
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hmm.
Oh shit effect:
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Gimpb
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Posted - 2008.07.21 03:19:00 -
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The zealot can pack speed, boom, and range all at the same time so it's certainly strong if you can get around its light tank when nano fit.
The harbinger and especially the abaddon both have that big presense among their respective classes. When you see one you know it means business. You know it has tank and you know it has gank, better hope you have a neut.
For the "oh crap, what do I do?" though, it's gotta be a neut boat to me. The curse is top of the line there and certainly feared among cruisers but the sentinel is no less the tyrant among frigs. People say the ishkur is one of the better AFs but the sentinel is like a fast ishkur with nasty neuts and the room and bonus to use a tracking disruptor on the side... yes plz.
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.07.21 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
Geddon - great for the close range stuff, fit pulse, boosters, like 3 heat sinks and a HP buffer tank 4 fun
what he said note how much dammage i took before going boom, use that fit 
Originally by: Siddy
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.21 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
Geddon - great for the close range stuff, fit pulse, boosters, like 3 heat sinks and a HP buffer tank 4 fun
what he said note how much dammage i took before going boom, use that fit 
mine tanked 60k damage! such a crap death too... I really should have scanned first, but corpmate said all that was there was tempest and a cerb. 
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.07.21 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
Geddon - great for the close range stuff, fit pulse, boosters, like 3 heat sinks and a HP buffer tank 4 fun
what he said note how much dammage i took before going boom, use that fit 
mine tanked 60k damage! such a crap death too... I really should have scanned first, but corpmate said all that was there was tempest and a cerb. 
ooh not cool, and keep in mind i was allready past half structure from a previous fight and my remore rep phoon decided to bail on me =P
Originally by: Siddy
APERANTLY GEED PEE VEE PEE PLAYAS!!111
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Temp Boi
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
Geddon - great for the close range stuff, fit pulse, boosters, like 3 heat sinks and a HP buffer tank 4 fun
what he said note how much dammage i took before going boom, use that fit 
That's one of the most hideous geddon fits i've ever seen, and you didn't take that much damage. Stick to PvE kthx.
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Zionysus
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Posted - 2008.07.21 05:56:00 -
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use an abaddon with a buffer tank, 2/2/1 drones for extra damage, stick a buffer tank and 3x heatsinks or a buffer tank with a single rep and 2 heatsinks.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.21 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
Geddon - great for the close range stuff, fit pulse, boosters, like 3 heat sinks and a HP buffer tank 4 fun
what he said note how much dammage i took before going boom, use that fit 
mine tanked 60k damage! such a crap death too... I really should have scanned first, but corpmate said all that was there was tempest and a cerb. 
258,000 damage in your face 
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.21 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
Geddon - great for the close range stuff, fit pulse, boosters, like 3 heat sinks and a HP buffer tank 4 fun
what he said note how much dammage i took before going boom, use that fit 
mine tanked 60k damage! such a crap death too... I really should have scanned first, but corpmate said all that was there was tempest and a cerb. 
258,000 damage in your face 
Wow that Vexor was pretty close to the tempest. Nice tankage tho haha.
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Wideen
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: Wideen on 21/07/2008 07:58:03
Originally by: Gneeznow
258,000 damage in your face 
they must have had an extraordinary dmg output! not being able to defeat a LAR II with crap resists with three ships is phail. But nicely done mate :) although why you didn't kill them in that obviously painfully long period of time is beyond me... LaZzZ0rz!
Edit: just noticed that the vexro was using (Heavy 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I) ... wat 
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Essencia
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Posted - 2008.07.21 08:37:00 -
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I just recently watched Cown's hypnotic video...
The Abaddon kicks total ass...
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.21 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 21/07/2008 08:42:38 I generally worry about Amarr BS, in gangs - they're very nasty. Solo, I find the Curse very worrying, if I don't have support to take it out I'm not going to even play with one.
Originally by: Wideen Edited by: Wideen on 21/07/2008 07:58:03
Originally by: Gneeznow
258,000 damage in your face 
they must have had an extraordinary dmg output! not being able to defeat a LAR II with crap resists with three ships is phail. But nicely done mate :)
Read comments. Two oneiros for tankage.
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Wideen
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 21/07/2008 08:42:38 I generally worry about Amarr BS, in gangs - they're very nasty. Solo, I find the Curse very worrying, if I don't have support to take it out I'm not going to even play with one.
Originally by: Wideen Edited by: Wideen on 21/07/2008 07:58:03
Originally by: Gneeznow
258,000 damage in your face 
they must have had an extraordinary dmg output! not being able to defeat a LAR II with crap resists with three ships is phail. But nicely done mate :)
Read comments. Two oneiros for tankage.
Yes the plot unfolds
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.07.21 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Wideen Yes the plot unfolds
Yeah I had an oneiros repping me, which died and then I had another oneiros pull me back from the brink as I was going into low hull, and killed a mega, dominix and sin in the process.
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Wideen
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow
Originally by: Wideen Yes the plot unfolds
Yeah I had an oneiros repping me, which died and then I had another oneiros pull me back from the brink as I was going into low hull, and killed a mega, dominix and sin in the process.
lol awesome.. so much for that agility bonus turn and run fred!
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.21 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuma Saruwatari on 21/07/2008 10:22:18 I've had my first taste of me in a gankHarb. It was good. Very very good...
Kinda like that first day with my SO. They were right, first time in PvP is like your first time in bed. You dont know wtf you're doing and its all over too friking soon.
I'd smoke, but I'm asthmatic...
EDIT: 450DPS with lvl4 sanely-trained skills. Yep... -
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EvilSpork
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.07.21 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: EvilSpork on 21/07/2008 11:35:24
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Edited by: Kazuma Saruwatari on 21/07/2008 10:22:18 I've had my first taste of me in a gankHarb. It was good. Very very good...
Kinda like that first day with my SO. They were right, first time in PvP is like your first time in bed. You dont know wtf you're doing and its all over too friking soon.
I'd smoke, but I'm asthmatic...
EDIT: 450DPS with lvl4 sanely-trained skills. Yep...
with a bit better skills you can do a good bit over 700 dps in a harbi.. its really an amazing gank ship. it cant tank worth a damn, but good god does it put out some damage!
edit: with perfect skills and a crazy setup you can do over 900 dps.... O.o
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Kano Sekor
Amarr The Movement
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Posted - 2008.07.21 11:32:00 -
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When i see a curse on scanner i GTFOS (S for system) immmediately. Its an "oh shit curse on scanner abort op!" kind of ship.
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G Mooo
Applied Evolution
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Posted - 2008.07.21 16:39:00 -
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Curse is the scariest solo ship amarr has atm. Unless you are in a passive tanked drake, you never EVER want to fight 1.
On sisi you can get some good fights with vaga vs curse (i seem to win about half the time) but on tq you can't be quite as loose with yoru hacs ;)
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Arvald
Caldari Ninjas N Pirates
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Posted - 2008.07.21 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Temp Boi
Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
Geddon - great for the close range stuff, fit pulse, boosters, like 3 heat sinks and a HP buffer tank 4 fun
what he said note how much dammage i took before going boom, use that fit 
That's one of the most hideous geddon fits i've ever seen, and you didn't take that much damage. Stick to PvE kthx.
rigth because i took out an arstate passived drake and blasterrokh and the same time before getting killed........
Originally by: Reem Fairchild The fact that people who post stupid things get instant and honest feedback letting them know how stupid they are, is one of the best qualities of the Eve forums.
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