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ramzahn
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.22 10:09:00 -
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This game. Is. F****d Up. Irredeemably. Knots and whorls of logic.
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.07.22 10:16:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: Alrich
the tradehub and mission hub is the same in auvergne-dodixi
…and Aunia. Still, that entire triangle of death still lags far less than either of Jita or Motsu does on their own.
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Alrione
Dark Destiny Inc.
Send More Paramedics
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Posted - 2008.07.22 10:46:00 -
[33]
Edited by: Alrione on 22/07/2008 11:09:14
If people mission in Jita... Well, they damn deserve it then and all other features associating with Jita.
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MenanceWhite
Amarr
Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.22 11:11:00 -
[34]
What are you talking about you criminal scums, noone screws with perimeter - all alts and stuff are stored there.
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There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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General Urlana
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Posted - 2008.07.22 13:11:00 -
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Jita is also an issue for early players because if they rely on the auto pilot route more times than not it will send them right through jita. Once they know better they can go around it but it certainly doesn't help matters. It would be nice if they could add some systems and push jita over so you only go there if you need the market..otherwise 99% of the time everyone can easily just cruise on by.
May not do much for the performance but you would likely get far fewer petitions and less traffic through an already insanely populated system
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.22 13:15:00 -
[36]
Originally by: ViRUS Pottage
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 21/07/2008 22:46:34
Dear CCP.
Remove Jita.
Next downtime. Please.
That is all.
Fixed  
Amazing that people can be this ignorant.
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vr0p
Gallente
Hatori Mining Services
DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2008.07.22 14:12:00 -
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I bought something in Jita once when I started out, saw the lag, and haven't been back. I've never had a significant problem finding items on market before. What is so special about Jita's market that we'd want to "save" it?
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Traidor Disloyal
NightCrew
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Posted - 2008.07.22 14:16:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Akita T
... or flying 1 bil ISK worth of stuff in untanked haulers... or using gyrostabilizers with missile launchers.... should I go on ?
I love these people. I wish there were like them in game.
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
Brotherhood of the Spider
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Posted - 2008.07.22 14:31:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 22/07/2008 14:32:07
Originally by: General Urlana
add some systems and push jita over so you only go there if you need the market..otherwise 99% of the time everyone can easily just cruise on by.
Then that could possibly not make Jita a trade hub and all the people would move to a more central location.
Jita is the way it is because of location, location, location. Move it or adding systems will not fix the issues at hand.
I agree with Akita, having missions and all the spawning NPC's can not be assisting in cleaning the lag in Jita.
Slade
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.22 14:33:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Traidor Disloyal
Originally by: Akita T
... or flying 1 bil ISK worth of stuff in untanked haulers... or using gyrostabilizers with missile launchers.... should I go on ?
I love these people. I wish there were like them in game.
Well, they either don't stay, or they don't stay like that for long
But trust me, there ARE such people in EVE. And not just one or two.
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Xaen
Caldari
Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.07.22 14:36:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: ViRUS Pottage
Jesus Christ. It was a joke.
Joke - learn to take one.
Oh 
Sorry, after witnessing today's deluge of brain-dead forum posts left right and center, all day long, I became impervious to sarcasm and/or jokes of any kind unless specifically tagged as such...
My apologies.
I have this problem too.
When 10,000 people per day scream at you, "IM AN R-TARD" you start to think everyone is.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.07.22 14:41:00 -
[42]
My understanding is that missions take place in the same constellation as the agent that sets them. It wouldn't surprise me if lots of people killing NPCs in Jita had got the missions from (better) agents in the surrounding systems.
A few agents have already been removed from Jita itself, but there are still lots left over nearby; Jita connects to rather a lot of other solar systems. These should be next on the list.
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Astria Tiphareth
Caldari
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.22 14:44:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Astria Tiphareth on 22/07/2008 14:44:36
It would make a lot more sense for lag if high-sec missions were allocated to quieter high-sec systems rather than always within a certain range. Sure it's nice that my level 4 kill mission is always about 2 away max, but I'd rather get sent 3 and actually stand a chance of shooting something than literally lag to death.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.22 14:50:00 -
[44]
The funny thing is they removes the asteroid belts a year ago (or thereabouts) because "it was causing lag".
In Jita ? A 0.9 system ? Sure, if by that you mean stripminer team lag... because there certainly were no NPCs around.
Then, they introduced recently the "undock at full speed in random tight angle" in order to remove congestion on undock ramps... but just about there only station where this was actually needed was Jita IV-4 !
So, yeah, they change stuff all over the game world just to alleviate things in one station, but they DON'T change things a little bit (if target system = Jita, randomly select a neighbour instead) in the only system that actually needs change ?
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Dihania
Gallente
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.22 15:10:00 -
[45]
Originally by: General Urlana
Jita is also an issue for early players because if they rely on the auto pilot route more times than not it will send them right through jita. Once they know better they can go around it but it certainly doesn't help matters. It would be nice if they could add some systems and push jita over so you only go there if you need the market..otherwise 99% of the time everyone can easily just cruise on by.
May not do much for the performance but you would likely get far fewer petitions and less traffic through an already insanely populated system
Markets flowrish at road intersections.
Moving Jita away and having some other system as a good "intersection" will just make the new system become the new "Jita".
Moving away the mission from Jita will have partialy this effect. People will focus on their system and some traders will make sure to provide stuff in the system with the mission runners. But many will still stay in Jita because of the placement of the system.
So moving missions from Jita is a very good sugestion.
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decoherance
Gallente
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2008.07.22 15:21:00 -
[46]
Originally by: vr0p
I bought something in Jita once when I started out, saw the lag, and haven't been back. I've never had a significant problem finding items on market before. What is so special about Jita's market that we'd want to "save" it?
Same here, I've been to Jita once in 8 months. I can find everything I need in Oursuleart.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.22 15:28:00 -
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As a regular player, yes, ships, modules anr rigs, you can probably find most of the things you need just about anywhere else.
But Jita has a lot more of it, and usually at slightly better prices ; and if you want the "rare stuff", or some other specific items, again, Jita is the place to be.
Heck, a huge amount of T2 materials pass through Jita before becoming part of ships or modules. Almost half of the daily EVE-wide Dysprosium production changes hands in Jita on a daily basis. And so on and so forth.
So, yeah, as a casual BUYER, you don't really need to go to Jita.
As a specialty buyer, or as a rare item seller, you'd better go to Jita if you want to see your stuff move any time soon.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.22 15:31:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Dihania
Moving away the mission from Jita will have partialy this effect. People will focus on their system and some traders will make sure to provide stuff in the system with the mission runners. But many will still stay in Jita because of the placement of the system.
So moving missions from Jita is a very good sugestion.
They don't even have to move any agents.
They only have to add a single "filter" on mission assignment - if the mission has any objective except "drop-off" in Jita, randomly pick another system in the vicinity instead for that objective.
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Troezar
Personal Vendetta
Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.07.22 15:48:00 -
[49]
How about not every system being able to sell everything on the market? Splits the shoppers into subsets. Could link it to certain NPC corps so some systems are ship trading hubs and other deal in ammuntion etc
Yes I know "But I is lazy and wont all stuffz in the same shopz!"
Take your pick convenience or laaaaaaaaaaaaag!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.22 15:54:00 -
[50]
So, between the minor inconvenience of NOT getting missions in a trade hub system, and the major inconvenience of shopping around several systems, you pick the latter ?
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Troezar
Personal Vendetta
Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.07.22 16:00:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Akita T
So, between the minor inconvenience of NOT getting missions in a trade hub system, and the major inconvenience of shopping around several systems, you pick the latter ?
That presumes that the majoriy of the laaaag is caused by missions. I'm presuming most of the 800 people in Jita aren't mission runners but shoppers. Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.07.22 16:10:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Troezar
That presumes that the majoriy of the laaaag is caused by missions.
No. It presumes that people running missions there add to the lag.
All the people standing in the check out aisles at the Jita-Mart surely comprise the majority of the lag. But if you're jam packed at the checkout lanes, you sure as hell don't add anything AT ALL that might slow down getting the shoppers checked out and on their way. That would be a bit daft, wouldn't it?
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ollobrains2
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Posted - 2008.07.22 16:11:00 -
[53]
check motsu etc they spike over 100000 a day
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2008.07.22 16:13:00 -
[54]
Originally by: ollobrains2
check motsu etc they spike over 100000 a day
And Motsu is a major trade hub...
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Orogaldeo
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.07.22 16:19:00 -
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I think Jita's a pretty cool guy. Eh creates black holes in the nodes and doesn't afraid of anything
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Anndarra Winge
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Posted - 2008.07.22 16:24:00 -
[56]
Originally by: decoherance
Originally by: vr0p
I bought something in Jita once when I started out, saw the lag, and haven't been back. I've never had a significant problem finding items on market before. What is so special about Jita's market that we'd want to "save" it?
I can't stay away from Jita. The place is like crack to trader like me.
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Troezar
Personal Vendetta
Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.07.22 16:51:00 -
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The point I was trying to make is that the game mechanics whether it is the missions or the market creates the problem. The beauty of a game is it can be manipulated in a way the real world can't. Spread the load of missions across the galaxy and do the same for markets. More opportunites for the little guy as an added bonus
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.22 19:44:00 -
[58]
The more pressing concern is that "the need for speed" initiative is ignoring (for quite a long time now) what is probably the most lag-generating issue, while making a lot of other not so effective, but much more radical changes.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.23 11:41:00 -
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Surprisingly sad to see so many "Jita lags" threads and so little reactions to what could as well be the easiest and least intrusive way to significantly reduce lag in it...
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.28 23:10:00 -
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*sigh*
Seriously now, another weekend gone, another set of Jita threads, yet again complete silence.
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